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Marikhen
Anyone else giggle a little when thinking about how what is "religion" for "God" is "extortion" and "protection rackets" for man?
Trickky
Its more like "if you don't love me, and you were a shit head your entire life, why would I want to spend eternity with you?"
khensu83
Lmao that's so so true huh I love it gonna keep this for when I want a good laugh, thanks I needed that
ArthurAndBusterFireMixtape
The amount of privileged individuals on here jerking each other off over their atheism is unreal lol
Unverified
And don't touch your genitals
SerialChillinSpree
..too much.
JonSAlberta
imaginaryupvote
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Leverbee
Jesus would have done well in the Mafia.
UnicornsAndRainbowsAndHappinessAndShit
Literally lol'd.
tomhark
white kids only.
Redbrickadam
Well according to South Park the Mormons are correct so that makes sense.
PennnnnyLane
#edgy
KeeleonOhms
One of my biggest gripes about Christianity is that if pride is a sin then how is creating a people specifically to worship you not prideful
Marikhen
When it's creating an energy source and/or validating your own existence.
MissyGarrett
Should add a decision wheel here like Skyrim.
mistersaIvage
Source?
Nutinbutbootson
Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolators 1/2
Nutinbutbootson
and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
cogs
White Jesus never said that. That must be Brown Jesus.
RansomAce
I have this picture in my room... My Dad used to tell me I looked like the girl in the blue...
CharlieAdamsNewel
"Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God and serve him only.’” i have a client who fully believes that a child 1/2
CharlieAdamsNewel
Molester could go to heaven as long as he believes and worships Lord Jesus. I asked her why I would want to go to a place with 2/3
CharlieAdamsNewel
Evil peole who asked for forgiveness last second and she couldn't give me an answer.
wambu
*Not valid where prohibited by law.
Crimx42
Boonzo
MrPokination
I need an adult
ILovePolarBears
I am an adult ????
SomeSuperAwesomeName
I am an adult.
Mistamage
*Knee to the gut*
emailaddress
OrionKaelin
Thats not how that works, at least not in the christian religion I grew up in.
PrinceMaggot
Elonth
i mean... i get where you were going with this...but it just doesn't fit well enough.
PrinceMaggot
I was actually looking for over attached girlfriend, but imgurs gif collection didnt have it so I used this. Would you have accepted that?
opertin3
So wrong on so many levels Imgur if you're gonna diss any faith based group at least do your homework
FaceyMcCuntfart
http://biblehub.com/revelation/21-8.htm
chinablue
it's Christian bashing on imgur so it flies, now the day I see an anti jewish FP post ...
pravetz
Cute - and yes, it is necessary to choose which parts of the Bible to believe in order to be coherent. Can't just blindly follow it all.
chinablue
Most important youtube video ever made https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZY2eeozdo8
BluBoxx
Why follow any then?
pravetz
Good question. Isn't all religion picking and choosing which beliefs are important to you?
Zombraina
But how can you possibly know the "right" parts to accept? Do you just ignore the stuff you don't like and hope you don't get sent to hell?
Coperstein
Terms and Conditions may Apply
Marikhen
Deadly sins may appear to be a bigger deal than they actually are.
thatwoodguy
Not exactly as illustrated.
thatwoodguy
Your mileage may vary.
thatwoodguy
Do no fold, spindle or mutilate
tarataqa
Ask you pharmacist before you change religions.
chinesefingerhut
Symptoms may include:
HappyEngineer
Itchy rash
chinesefingerhut
Saltiness.
VoidIncarnate
If turned into a pillar of salt, please consult your local priest.
tarataqa
Help, I require an old priest and a young priest...
PNWDachshundLover
Brings back memories of Catholic school. Anybody else feel like they need to go to confession now?
Marikhen
Not really, no. I see no reason to confess to things that I don't feel are sinful only to have a priest judge me instead of "God."
ThatDiceGuy
Well I'm pretty sure they'd drown me in holy water of I said half of what needs "confessed."
Selerox
"Why would an infinite god infinitely punish finite men for finites sins?"
callipygianman
How can finite men understand an infinite being?
AllisonChains73
THANK YOU!
MooseGoneMeh
Vacinnes are 300 years of research and study, Christianity is 3,000 years of theology. Maybe there's one you don't understand as well...
wizardboy24
What? By that logic, Hinduism is even better since it's like 5000 years old.
MooseGoneMeh
Not "better," but has much more depth perhaps. People seem to misunderstand my comment- I'm not saying "Christianity is real because 1/2
MooseGoneMeh
It's been in development for a while" I'm saying that it has a lot of it to understand. But the circle jerk must continue I guess.
MooseGoneMeh
*true, not "real" (of course it's fuckin real :P )
AllTheCoolKidsPeeTheirPants
Is it really that fun to bash religion? Fuck off. Have some respect.
pangyre
Show some respect! Like me! Also, fuck off! But respectfully.
AsABiologistWhoIsNotFunAtParties
It doesn't get a free pass to be nonsense just because it's religion.
AllTheCoolKidsPeeTheirPants
Just because it's nonsense to you doesn't mean other people don't have a right to believe it.
BiggusYuckus
I will defend everyone's right to believe in whatever nonsense they choose...until that nonsense negatively impacts the life of those I 1/2
AsABiologistWhoIsNotFunAtParties
I'm not denying anyone's right to believe anything, just saying it's not off limits to scrutiny, nor is it disrespectful to scrutinize.
BiggusYuckus
for. With that said, that doesn't exempt beliefs from criticism...nor should it. If your beliefs are that fragile, I feel bad for you. 2/2
webmdontheAT
Aww my precious little snowflake please land softly.
AllTheCoolKidsPeeTheirPants
BiggusYuckus
How Christian of you.
AllTheCoolKidsPeeTheirPants
Not Christian haha
BiggusYuckus
Then why argue?
HeroSky
You're attacking a straw man
dennydorko
How is this not an accurate representation of John 3:16? Because it doesn't specify what "perish" when other parts of the Bible say (1/2)
dennydorko
(2/2) it means going to Hell?
HeroSky
1. There is no mention of loving him as a requirement. 2. The misrepresentation is that he is saving you from hell, not condemning you.
Zombraina
So it's just a different way of saying "If you don't accept me you're gonna go to hell."
NotTheSharpestSpoonInTheDrawer
But what if I accept Jesus as the Lord and savior but still think he's a douche
PeteButtigieg
Looking for an answer.
JamesProton
I don't think you really accepted Him then, otherwise you would know how this post is inaccurate
NotTheSharpestSpoonInTheDrawer
So that's a no then? And the accuracy of the post hinges on the specific denomination, whether or not it's true is a different matter
MultipleIrateCheeses
It's been a while since I read through the Bible but even the New testament has damned me at least thrice
Zombraina
So.. we don't burn in hell for not accepting Him into our hearts as our lord and savior, thereby not accepting God into our hearts?
AsABiologistWhoIsNotFunAtParties
So what's your interpretation of Revelation 21:8?
TaintedBushido
(1/2)The Lake is a symbolic place not of torment, but of everlasting destruction. Since Death, something unaffected by fire is also thrown
TaintedBushido
(2/2) into it. Essentially meaning ceasing to exist. Very different from being tormented for all eternity.
TaintedBushido
Rev 20:14, 15
AsABiologistWhoIsNotFunAtParties
ahh phew, always convenient when the scary bits are deemed symbolism.
Worgslarg1
That's a completely unrealistic caricature. God loves us unconditionally, but since we keep making concsious choices to deny him and his1/
Worgslarg1
Laws, we are separated from him. God does not accept sin, so the only way we, as sinners, can be brought to him, is on the "referral" /3
Nutinbutbootson
God does not accept sin, yet he loves us unconditionally? So for him to love me unconditionally, I have to do what he says? Got it. 1/
Nutinbutbootson
I don't lie, steal, kill etc, but I do this because I'm a good person- Not because God tells me too, yet I still go to Hell? 2/2
RoyalewithCHeeSes
Short answer : yes .
mehimbored
He gave us free will, but we can only do what he wants us to do...
webmdontheAT
If you want to get into some deep stuff you should check out some of the ideas on free will being a fallacy. Interesting stuff.
Nutinbutbootson
These are just questions that I have asked over the years, and it is where a lot of misunderstanding lies.
Nutinbutbootson
I grew up a Baptist. My mother converted to Catholicism. I believe in God, but don't agree with a specific belief. Agnostic? Idk
Zombraina
There are such things as agnostic theists, but that mostly just means you believe in a god but know there's a possibility there isn't one.
Worgslarg1
Of Jesus, who is without sin, and died to give us that referral.
XooMG
Unless he was just a great prophet as taught in Islam, or just a character of questionable historicity. Opinions abound.
Zombraina
So pretty much exactly what the post says, just not the way you like it to be said?
thattheologyguy
Yep, that's pretty close.
iamthephantomlimb
Theologically incorrect.
RanchoCucamonga
It's a joke, not theology.
homoerection
But, technically correct
SenatorHillaryIAmStillInTheRaceClinton
The best kind of incorrect
ExaDeuce
Not in any way that really matters
Dwaynard
I firmly believe that if hell exists, it's a choice. Say someone lived such a twisted life that goodness becomes painful, so they stay away
MundaneFinality
As an athiest who grew up in america, I can assure you christians beleive you will go to hell for eternity for not being christian.
justtwobrothers
Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.
DefinetlyNotObsessed
"Those who do not obey the son" the obeying part is usually seen as those who do misdeeds like stealing adultery murder etc not believing1/2
DefinetlyNotObsessed
In his existence. Or atleast that's how I've understood it aswell as many of my peers. 2/2
MrSeanly
Notice how no one has responded to this
justtwobrothers
John 3:36
justtwobrothers
The Lord preserves all who love him, but all the wicked he will destroy. Psalm 145:20
Tlaxxil
This is the internet. The circlejerk will continue anyway
RanchoCucamonga
It's a joke.
mann0311
People just don't like jokes ay?
thattheologyguy
Can confirm.
DiatribeGuy
How so? (looking for an intelligent discourse)
WhiskersVonHoppyhopsthe3rd
It honestly depends which sect of Christianity you're looking at. Catholics have purgatory: the place you go when you're not Christian (1
VinnieJonesDiary
Purgatory is for "those who die in God’s friendship... but who still have need of purification" so presumably not atheist sinners like me.
mallywanders
I'm Mormon. Our religion says that all people will have the chance to accept Christ, even of its only after death, but that living in the
WhiskersVonHoppyhopsthe3rd
But still a good person, or at least I think that's How It goes. I am protestant: Pentecostal and if you don't worship God, you going down!
DiatribeGuy
Yeah, the other guy is right. Purg is when you have unresolved sin, but you are a true believer. Missed confession or last rites mess up
thattheologyguy
According to the catholic view, purgatory is for Christians who are not completely clean, so to speak.
thattheologyguy
Well, for one, we are separated from God by sin. Jesus is the one who removes our sin and supplants his righteousness; we must embrace (1/2)
thattheologyguy
This in order to receive it. In doing so, we are united to God once again; punishment doesn't come from unbelief, but salvation from belief.
AsABiologistWhoIsNotFunAtParties
Revelation (NIV) literally says "unbelievers will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur".
Saezon
You are punished for living better because of belief?
DiatribeGuy
I understand 'original sin' and things, I went to college for this. But how is it not 'love me or burn?'
AwesomeTeddybear
Is it? Without any explanation saying something is incorrect....
Dabadoo
save my soul in 140 characters or less hehe
Rampagingchicken
Idea of afterlife didn't get into Christianity until after Constantine adopted it. According to Psalm 146:4 1/
Rampagingchicken
His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish. 2/
TheEightfoldPath
According to you*. There are many interpretations, some of which do indeed threaten with eternal punishment.
iwanttoaggressivelysqueezeteemo
To not love is it's own torture.
sebastionloeb
Ehh, there are radical interpretations of every religion
MundaneFinality
Til that every practicing christian I have ever met in america is a radical.
HaircutsOfNicholasCage
And yet, those interpretations exist and are, in fact, religion. Hence, this is not theologically incorrect.
TheEightfoldPath
The whole point was to counter the statement "theologically incorrect", which quite frankly is a load of crap.
sebastionloeb
No its not, that statement genuinely is theologically incorrect. Unless youre talking catholiscism or like lutheranism
MundaneFinality
"Its theologically incorrect unless you include theology"
heinzbitte
Genuinely curious, do other widespread denominations (or non denominational) not believe in a literal concept of hell?
TheEightfoldPath
Well then it's not theologically incorrect is it?
Uzernaime
Please quote a scripture within proper context of this.
Alphonsevaher
Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life but the wrath of God remains on him.John 3:36
Uzernaime
Wrath of God is simply death: 6:23, and the dead aren't conscious of anything: Ecclesiastes 9:5.
Uzernaime
Sorry: Romans 6:23*
MundaneFinality
Why should non-christians give a shit about scripture? The actions and statements of christians are all the affect us. And christians have//
MundaneFinality
// made it clear that they beleive in eternal damnation for all non-christians. Idc if the bible agrees, its still what theu beleive.
Uzernaime
Because current "Christianity" is doing this: Matthew 15:3, they are not being Christian in their teaching, the only way to prove TRUE 1/2
Punderstandable
To clarify, hell isn't punishment, it's a place void of God. God is love, joy, acceptance, forgiveness. Without him these things don't...
peepoleRfunny
Jealous much?
CptKoolaid
I think you are describing purgatory here. The eternal DMV line of the afterlife.
Punderstandable
... exist. We were designed to function under these things. To reject God is to reject these things, and the natural misery that follows.
Punderstandable
*is to reject these things, and to choose the natural misery that follows.
DignamWhenAskedaQuestion
if hell is place devoid of GOD, then god can not exist everywhere.
Punderstandable
That is intrinsically fallacious. That's like saying that by choosing not to eat a Sandwich, I can't eat any sandwich I want.
DignamWhenAskedaQuestion
You wrote hell is devoid of god. God is supposed to be "omnipresent" so which is iT? A sandwich with no mayo?
Zombraina
God being the omnipresent, omniscient, and omnipotent god he is, knows who will not follow him and condemns them to eternal misery anyway,1/
Zombraina
then goes "lol ur fault." And we're supposed to believe he thinks of us as his children? That sounds like grade A bullshit to me. Why 2/
Zombraina
bother giving us free will if not to watch millions of us fail and suffer because of it? Sounds like we're his entertainment, not his kids.
DarthPalpatine
I've rejected God and I feel love, joy, acceptance and am capable of forgiveness.
Punderstandable
Congratulations. God has a presence on Earth, and we are made in his image. Naturally these things will be present as well. The idea is...
Punderstandable
... that in Hell, these things will be absent.
AsABiologistWhoIsNotFunAtParties
Which race is made in his image? Are midgets made in his image? Are deformed babies with 6 arms made in his image?
DarthPalpatine
There is no evidence for God's presence on Earth or elsewhere, nor is there any evidence we are made in his image.
AxelBeingCivil
Free will theodicy doesn't really hold up, nor does the idea that subjecting people to eternal misery isn't punishment.
Punderstandable
Explain how it doesn't hold up, instead of just claiming it. Just because it's uncomfortable doesn't meant it's HIS fault. The choice is...
Punderstandable
... ours. He gave us a free pass with Jesus, but still we want to complain that we even have to choose him. It's pathetic, how badly we...
TaintedBushido
1/? I shall comment on the second part. The Bible teaches eternal destruction for wicked humans not eternal torment or misery. Some have
TaintedBushido
2/? Used the Lake of Fire as proof of eternal torment. But the inclusion of a spirit creature, Satan. Death and Hades (common grave of man
Punderstandable
Jumping from a building and dying isn't punishment, it's the natural consequence of the nature of gravity.
grammarfairy
Exactly, thank you.
homoerection
That's not what the 700 clubs says.
AsABiologistWhoIsNotFunAtParties
This is silly. If God is the architect of the universe, he made the rules and the consequences, therefore they ARE punishments designed (1)
Punderstandable
If, A: God subjected us to him when we specifically chose to reject him, that would eliminate any shred of free will, and B: The nature...
AsABiologistWhoIsNotFunAtParties
(2/2)by him. Your explanation is akin to saying "getting a ticket is a natural consequence of speeding".
Disgruntled3lf
There's some pretty clear descriptions of a lake of fire.
SluttyToast
41“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
SluttyToast
46“Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.” Jesus ain't subtle about this stuff. :P
Punderstandable
Maybe God is also AC.
Disgruntled3lf
So god is cool?
TaintedBushido
(1/?) The Lake of fire and sulfur is a symbolic place. Death is included in the things hurled into it. (Rev 20: 14,15) This essentially...
TaintedBushido
(2/2) means that it is a place of everlasting destruction or ceasing to exist, very different from everlasting torment.
Disgruntled3lf
But if they aren't tormented why is there "weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth"? Matt 13:42 & Luke 13:28.
HaircutsOfNicholasCage
That there is a very New Testament God. Still... "love me or you cannot have love" sounds a bit abusive.
Punderstandable
He offers love and forgiveness to us free of charge. We don't have to earn or deserve it. The law is tilted in our favor, that's why...
pangyre
We also don’t have to have done anything wrong to require forgiveness.
MundaneFinality
Free of charge? So if I want to love my wife more than jesus, thats cool? If I want to attend my trans friends' gay wedding, thats cool? //
MundaneFinality
// the fact that I had sex with my gf before marriage and dont feel bad about it, thats cool? What is sin if not a set of conditions?
TraitorousTrump3
Don't i have to follow & acknowledge him? Sounds like I have to earn it.
Honorius77
1) Depends. Some sects believe that in practical terms. Most reasonable interpretations are that the sacrifice of Jesus guarantees a --
Punderstandable
Seriously? Under the context of free forgiveness for falling short of perfection and spending an eternity in a world void of pain, fear...
Punderstandable
... the whole thing with sending Jesus, an innocent being, to die and suffer in a world of sin, was such a big deal. It was pure sacrifice..
Punderstandable
... to satisfy the wages of Sin, so that we can be allowed to exist alongside God after falling short of goodness.
HaircutsOfNicholasCage
Look, you're preaching to the choir here, but you have to admit that the plainfacts description, without long preaching, of many doctrines