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Jan 20, 2021 11:08 PM
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ohnonotthatagain
Because some people want gov involved in every aspect of life and then everyone has to argue about the implementation.
humptydumptywastheking
Inferiority complex, impostor syndrome, privilege and a fundamental lack of empathy.
Enceladus21
Because Republicans and Christians don't like you having the same rights they do. You might actually use them.
Btch128
They deserve to be married and miserable like the rest of us lol
conflictmuffins
My bestie is gay. He is the most loyal, sweet & wonderful person. It breaks my heart knowing people look down upon him for being gay. :(
JSLauder
Because human rights are not given to the common man by god— they’re wrestled away from the powerful through blood, sacrifice, and action.
starshroom108
Because selfish politicians try to restrict equality
VibratingNipples
don't forget transgender's rights
HanoverPhist
Being an asshole is a partisan issue
420supercoolusername69
Because religious zealots exist in the US, too.
Dionysus187
Its none of our business what their personal beliefs are. However, its also none of their fucking business what others beliefs are.
culinarydream7224
The really fucked up part is they're arguing that we're stealing their rights by giving rights to lgbtq/women
JeezusJuice
Right. Only one person or group of persons can hold a right at a given time. If you have a right, I cannot also have one. Basic stuff.
iTakeQuotesOutOfContext
Zero sum games. Basic economics, come on, haven’t you college educated libtards ever read a book? /s (sigh)
sadurdaynight
That's 21st century thinking. Sadly, the United States is stuck in the 1900's.
Flortzweich
A... The fuck... Men
skizzit
Because a bunch of dickheads think we should live our lives according to the rules written by old, white men thousands of years ago.
AnotherReplyToIgnore
If people have to vote for them to exist, they aren't rights, they're privileges.
mooseablethenok
That's...wrong. To put it kindly.
XXXSpork
Hatred, that's why
Blackrain39
The systems are in place so we don't end up with things like "rapists' right", or something stupid like that. Problem is that stupid 1/2
Blackrain39
people think that gay rights are "something stupid like that". 2/2
mooseablethenok
Rapists do have rights. That’s kinda the point of rights...
Blackrain39
Way to take the point out of context. They have rights because they are people, not because they're rapists.
mooseablethenok
So, being a rapist doesn't matter about what rights you have? I'll take a dog returning to their vomit...
BriefausdemGeist
Because people who can’t read or think get told Jesus said so
AWildPandaAppears
Imagine being born with certain rights, then having those rights taken from you based on who you like to fuck.
Drunkablancas
Imagine being born without certain rights based on what's between your legs.
greenchair
Because they are different. Different is bad. Duh
spacecadet103
nonsequitur
Because some assholes think certain groups of people dont deserve those rights.
SpamYarBlockers
Our constitution is in fact set ip such that no individual is guaranteed any rights unless explicitly listed there
ryanmms
Specifically some asshole thinks his God doesn’t want those ppl to have rights.
likeumreal
*cough* The FUCKING GOP *cough*
FantasticFunk
"I love all of this.. but it ain't for THOSE people!"
the100guy
?????
Becker37
Anyone not like them
johnvictor
Exactly and when you have assholes like that you need more than a promise they can't be assholes to their perceived out groups.
SkeletonsLoveBooty
The one I bring up and get a lot of people on both sides to "well..." Is prisoners. Rights are rights, for everyone.
Imakethingsweird
Would someone please think of the assholes?!
crankyoldgeezer
Assholes need love too. Or at least a good pounding.
B99Reactions
I mean, then you get groups of people thinking they have the right to invade capitols and execute people in the name of freedom
nevernotsure
More like they don't view them as people.
BeaveIt2Leaver
And here is the topic of today's conversation. Easy to treat someone like they're not a person when you truly believe they're not a person.
ScaryTransgenderPersonInTheRestroom
Mood
BioPrince
Stop talking about Muslims, just because you get murdered for being gay, or being a rape victim... oh yea the rest of the world sucks to
nevernotsure
Cool and we did the similar not too long ago. Should we stop moving forward?
BeaveIt2Leaver
It's not some people's fault they believe 'My suffering negates everyone else. Life sucks. Deal.' They don't believe things can get better.
cr4ckp0t2
Yeah, those people are gay...... oh wait
junkgoof
Because a lot of Americans prefer the 18th century with zealotry, slavery, and ignorance to the present.
thundercactus
See, here's their problem; the anti-rights voting base sucks at life. Like, they REALLY just fundamentally are not good at life. And so...
thundercactus
they see the idea of other people getting rights and becoming equals as a grave threat. Because they know those people are better at life...
thundercactus
because they've been actively HELD BACK, and they're STILL doing better than the regressive people. It's like putting 5lb weights on a...
thundercactus
kids legs to slow them down so the fat lazy unmotivated kids can win. What happens when those weights come off? Olympic athlete.
thundercactus
The rascist, sexist, regressive assholes are just trying to keep everyone else down so they're not the ones in last place, where they belong
BatmansUnderPantsAreSoSoft
Because religion is still in our politics.
mooseablethenok
Because rights aren’t real, they are literally formed out of communal consent.
barnwolf
Because racists keep finding creative new ways to discriminate against people.
HopelessNecr0mantic
People wanna trash the younger generation because their dumb shit is what gets broadcast out. But they have it together on the big issues.
SkeletonsLoveBooty
For now. Hippies got old and so will we
Pooprocketpower
Yeah, and most of the hippies sold out. Don't sell out
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
I hope so. But there is evidence that they don't: https://psmag.com/economics/millennials-arent-uniformly-woke-and-broke
Pooprocketpower
Millennials are older. Maybe this is a zoomer post?
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
Maybe. Although if the needle hasn't moved in the last 50 or so years, I can't see why it would now.
Sp0ngeWorthy
GenX is there with you. Most of us anyway.
HopelessNecr0mantic
I'm borderline gen x/millennial. In a lot of ways we grew up between changing eras and have weird characteristics of the past and the future
getmeoutofthecity
Yup. I'm right there with you. Its weird.
mooseablethenok
Except, this is some grade-a dumb shit, demonstrating a failure of basic understanding of sociology.
daimomusic
We were their age once and we had our own dumb shit. We are so quick to forget
MorallyCasual
They really do. I feel like we just gotta clear the way for them.
HopelessNecr0mantic
Today was a very good day.
generalsplayingrisk
Eh, as one of them, we have our heart in the right place but we have our own emerging foibles too.
HopelessNecr0mantic
Everybody does. I'm hopeful that growing up w so much info at their fingertips that they can learn from the mistakes of the past and grow.
generalsplayingrisk
True, but it's also growing up with every non-physical vice at your fingertips and parents who don't know how to handle that. I actually 1/2
generalsplayingrisk
have more faith for a generation or so down from gen Z, when we can more adequately culturally adapt to the data-rich world we're in. 2/2
EvilBuffalo
I would agree if I wasn't worried about fresh water riots and cataclysmic natural disasters by that point. They'll have bigger issues then.
PanEdaCat
Oh no like what? *unpins hopes and dreams off the shoulders of genz alone*
magicgirl
Nihilism
SkeletonsLoveBooty
I'm a through and through nihilist and I think it helps me be humanitarian. Nothing matters so I might as well be nice about it.
SkeletonsLoveBooty
What do I have to lose?
Roachloft
I like to think of it as because nothing matters, we get to choose what matters
Masonrig
'we find these rights to be self evident'... literally right there. This shouldn't be a conversation.
mooseablethenok
Words written by a slave owner...so, maybe a little conversation needed.
Masonrig
Written based on the words of others. Locke & Montesquieu are credited by him by name, for starters.
Masonrig
I'm not going to claim Jefferson was a good guy, he was flawed. Doesn't mean the words he wrote were invalid, or the sentiment a bad one.
mooseablethenok
I think you missed the part where there was quite a bit of discussion regarding those words.
allmypostshadnopantson
"You got to fight, for your right, to paaaaaaaaarty!"
CastleBonerShrinker
Fun fact : my younger sister thought FOR YEARS that they said "fight for your right to park here". I'll never let her live that one down
SubtleOrc
The beasty boys knew
Otterlycaligal
Hahahahha
simbion
And “party for your right to fight”
eatmyassevilspirit
To beeeeeeeeeeee gaayy!
mity0k23
“Party for fight to write”
OneTheory
Your mom threw away your best porno mag
mikeatc
Your Dad caught you smoking and he said ”NO WAY”
Lokenessluke
That hypocrite smokes two packs a day!
Mxlespxles
That hypocrite smokes two packs a day
lncorrectGrammerNazi
Your mom busted in and said "What's that noise?"
N0HATS
Mom you're just jealous it's the Bea-stie-Boys!
MrTay
I get the sentiment but it lacks perspective. We have the ability to continually expand rights. To bring more and more people into the 1/
wthamidoinghere
it doesn't lack perspective at all and its time has come to be embraced by all
MrTay
Fold to expand our rights this is why we vote to change our society. In a few hundred years people will be advocating additional rights 2/
MrTay
We can’t even think of. Lgbq+ wasn’t even a concept hundreds of years ago just a democracy was progressive. It’s not always fast enough 3/
QuiteADapperAsshole
Lgbtq was a concept back then. It was just worse off for them. Harder to be seen.
MrTay
And the road is hard and regressive sometimes but in the end we’ve done a lot of good changes society with that vote.
3crowsBeast
LordLumpy
I see your point but I think the OP post is more on the line of "wait why do we have to debate this? LGBQT+? Cool we'll write it in."
TheNeub
Shirt answer? Christianity.
IsThisaUsernameNopeItsaTideAd
Capitalism loves to exploit people Christians love excuses to hate people rich people love power and money put 1 and 1 and 1 together
SailorVSays
Well, what passes for Christianity in the U.S., at least.
superdupertrooper
Christiani-tee
fourthattempt
Pants answer: some people just suck
Yoyorazer
ahorseelbowdeepinme
ahorseelbowdeepinme
ahorseelbowdeepinme
Sock answer: some people just pant
moreSaucePlease
Shoe answer: gotta have sole
GrumpyOldMillennial
Hat answer: M'equality.
LapsedMennonite
And not be so straight-laced
PurityOfEssence
How bout the pants answer
LapsedMennonite
Zip it. /s
PurityOfEssence
Bop it.
TheNeub
Pants answer is Puritans
AslanTheGod
Fuck christianity! And all religion!
KYWarmingJelly
Religion is magic. And people who believe in magic can be convinced of anything.
AslanTheGod
It's infuriating.
SBartlett
Agreed, sorry for any future downvotes you may get , said the same thing and god slated , religious nuts everywhere , even here
SBartlett
Got*
AslanTheGod
It's just some fake internet points. I don't plan on changing minds, just make them aware we are here.
SBartlett
Oh completely agree!!
maggestauber91
Whether you like it or not, human rights and the believe we are made all equal, with equal rights and worth is a Christian concept /1
maggestauber91
We take human rights for granted, which is just not the case for most people for the most time in most countries /2
ButtblasterMcAssmaster
The development of human rights was a fight AGAINST Christianity, not by it.
maggestauber91
You can ignore history or interpret it wrongly as much as you want, it will not get become truth. But you will blame we with the same /1
maggestauber91
So we need to come up with historical data and evidence to support or disprove one another. Imgur is not the proper platform to do so /2
ButtblasterMcAssmaster
It really isn't. Can't put a lot of historical discussion in 140 characters.
TheNeub
Human rights is not a Christian concept. Specially when The Bible was pro slavery.
TheNeub
Also pro killing same sex people. Pro misogyny, treating women as a thing you own.
TheNeub
The only humans who had rights were the Christian men. Even than that depended on your skin color.
TheNeub
And before people say “but that’s the Old Testament”. You can’t have the Bible w/o the OT
livelaughlove358
No, that's surface dig deeper and you'll see it's FEAR!.
spankhelm
He's right. People are just aFEARed that if two peni touch then God will send you to hell.
drizztx
So, exactly what he said.
DignamWhenAskedaQuestion
and fear leads to anger...
shyasen
And anger leads to hate...
AnonKneeMoose
hate leads to the darkside...
AnonKneeMoose
darkside leads to cookies
AbhainnFuil
1. Well, that's not well phrased, everyone gets the same rights as everyone else, question is about what rights are allowed to anyone.
WaveMotionGum
Saw a catholic dude trying to bargain it away to gain more evangelical votes...I doubt he thought was was bargaining away his own rights.
AbhainnFuil
4. Thank goodness we have grown to the point we recognise being gay is completely neutral to society and shouldn't be subject to laws.
AbhainnFuil
3. rights are not personal but are based on whether they are good for the society people appear to want.
AbhainnFuil
5. I don't know why I can't marry my Hetro best mate so he inherits my estate by default while we go clubbing together to score with girls.
AbhainnFuil
2. When gay people did not have the right to be openly gay, neither did I as a heterosexual have the right to be openly gay.
QuiteADapperAsshole
Ehhhh not really. Right to marry wasnt extended to non hetero people. Right to vote wasn't extended to neat everyone. Idk what you're saying
QuiteADapperAsshole
Oh, I think you're saying we "used to consider marriage and voting" not as rights. But I disagree, they were always seem as rights for some.
KNEECAPS
Gay men could always marry... women, which is the same right as every other man. We just expanded the rights that everyone could have.
QuiteADapperAsshole
That's hardly a right to marry, and it's obvious why.
KNEECAPS
In practice? Absolutely. Semantically / Legally? Nah, we expanded everyone's rights. Which is an absolute win.
AbhainnFuil
we had the same rights, just not the rights that he wanted, but I didn't have that right either, it was not personal in that way.
AbhainnFuil
you should not say gay people or black people should have this or that right, you should say everyone should have this or that right.
AbhainnFuil
They didn't say gay men can't marry men they said no man can't marry a man, it was a wrong law but applied equally to all.
AbhainnFuil
Not personal, a blanket ban though it obviously affected some more than others, but all laws do that,
QuiteADapperAsshole
It was a personal bad on gay marriage tho? It wasn't just an "whoops, wrong verbage there, better just keep the bad wording for centuries."
AbhainnFuil
I'm saying they (men) always had the same rights as everyone, to marry a woman, it was the right to only to marry women that was wrong.
QuiteADapperAsshole
This is a dumb pedantics argument. Having the right to marry the wrong people is not having the right to marry. For obvious reasons.