'bout the most extreme case of Stockholm Syndrome i've ever seen.
There is no way I will ever understand how any reasoning black individual can be a member of the Republican Party. Are they actively trying to become slaves again?
All these black men and white women humiliating themselves dancing for Trump's pleasure and he's gonna pick a white dude. (And then hopefully get shellacked in the election and finally fucking go away.)
It's not just a Cult of Personality, and a dangerous one. This whole thing, before COVID and through it, is an episode of Mass Psychosis brought on by too many decades of irresponsible propaganda ("Republican" == "American", "Democrat" == "Anti-American"), the gutting of our schools, and the wholesale looting of the most prosperous economy in human history. It will get uglier before it gets better... if it gets better at all.
His best option is to become a publicity token, only brought out to show the world that they treat black people ok. A Gilded cage is still a cage, no matter how nice it is inside it.
Aw, look at the little snowflake and his feelings. Doesn't matter what people feel votes cast are votes cast, they need to get the fuck over themselves.
"I'm an enemy of America, I do not respect your government, I reject democracy." Give him a choice: Execution, or strip him of all assets and throw him into Exile. One way or another, people like this should be removed from the country that actively oppose.
Brought to you by the same people who got mad when Taylor Swift told people to vote. Because apparently fair elections and good voter turnout are “democrat conspiracies”.
He's a Republican. He CAN'T give a yes or no answer because he's on the wrong side and knows it. Yes = he's a traitor to MAGA. No = he's a traitor to America. Nonsense = he'll getting Red Hat votes.
Think it is written in any right leaning party handbook, give a long ass speech in where you never actually answear the question you were given, or just blame the previous goverment if it was center/left leaning.
Sometimes I wonder if it's like that Key and Peele sketch where they just physically cannot agree with Obama. Maybe they're so far gone that they just avoid answering the question directly as a reflex. Doesn't even matter the question. "Senator would you like pizza for lunch?" "Well I don't think it's fair to call pizza a pie. You're stretching the definition to ridiculous lengths." "No senator, I want to know if it's okay for your lunch." "Well pineapple on pizza is a controversial thing..."
If he won, there wouldn't be opponents. Because there wouldn't be elections. He'd crown himself king and pick one of his kids as an heir to his new dynasty.
"At the end of the day, Donald Trump will be the 47th President."
He's literally saying he will not accept the results if Biden wins. If you can't say "yes" to a simple yes or no question, then your answer is "no" - even if you won't say the word.
It's kinda cute that he doesn't want a soundbite out there which can be held against him if he doesn't accept the outcome. As if the cultists would care!
Well, as a POC, his base makes him jump through a whole lotta hoops that it doesn't make its Yt members jump through, y'know, on account of the racism.
I'm not a violent man, but I wanna slap him. Just say you'll only call the election legit if Trump wins. I saw the video. He tried to finish with "I don't want to answer your HYPOTHETICAL question." It's not the least bit a hypothetical question.
These people are not smart enough to walk through how absolutely near impossible it would be to swing a national election fraudulently without a single shred of evidence and their egos will not allow them to admit they are wrong and lost because their ideology is not only unpopular but also awful and harmful. There's a reason there's plenty of evidence of voter suppression from Republicans.
The non-violent people of the world should serve as a great warning to fascism rhetoric if it compels them to act out on the reflex urge to defend themselves and others. Also they get first dibs on bitch slapping fascists. Beware the anger of a gentle man.
They plan to purge voters and hope Democrats aren't paying attention so when they go to vote they are denied. After the election there will be so many complaints they can say, "See elections are broken"
I wanna slap her, because she should just have said. "Okay, if you are sure that Trump will be president, that just means you either believe in the magic of fortune telling, or you won't accept a Biden win and will thus support an unconstitutional and probable violent takeover of the capitol in the case that Trump loses."
THIS. This statement should be enough to disqualify a person from running. You can't trust someone like this to uphold democracy. You can't trust someone like this to have any integrity whatsoever. You can't trust their word.
The GOP in Congress just denied Biden's cancer bill because HOW DARE THEY hand him a win so close to the election. More orphans for the orphan crushing machine...
And this attitude helps them lie. You write them off as stupid when they're intentionally lying, obfuscating, and appearing credible. Writing them off as stupid makes you stop paying attention while they do their worst.
I regard lying - the deliberate presentation of an untruth as the truth - to be the behaviour of an idiot. A failure to accept reality as it is and not attempt to impose some fantasy diminishes anyone in my eyes.
It does not mean I ignore them. It does not mean I do not correct their folly.
You're wrong then. Lying is done by highly intelligent people as a tool of manipulation. Lying can be done by idiots, but fools write off stupidity when it can be dangerous and wide spread. Lies are like embers in a forest that lead to massive fires. You don't ignore the embers if you are wise. They lead to danger later.
Yeah, fair enough, although mere idiocy won't make you dodge and weave like this in the face of a simple question with an obvious right answer. This is active, deliberate, spineless weaseling, abject moral and intellectual cowardice _with malice aforethought,_ you know? Stuff like this doesn't come naturally no matter how DUMB you are.
No he's not. He's deliberately refusing to answer the question, while using the platform to spread his own propaganda, in a way that Republicans will point to as "look how he owned the libs".
He wants white supremacy for the same reason they do. A place in the conservative hierarchy of abuse that's not the bottom, so he can kick down... just once, before it's his turn being kicked down on.
It's unreasonable to believe these folks are all ignorant of the fact that they *will* be declared the out-group very quickly. But they all get to hurt people, and all their policies are obviously intended to do harm... so that has to be the real reason behind their actions.
Alternatively, we could, I suppose, believe the obvious lies that they want to round up and kill every LGBTQ+ person to "protect the children" that aren't worth protecting from bullets or republicans setting fire to federal money to feed children.
They really do only care about "owning the libs" and harming people. And they keep telling us this over and over...
- Tim Scott and any other immigrant voting for Trump. Especially Muslim brothers and sisters. Reality calls.
Seriously though, this image meme or whatever doesn’t do the video justice. It’s even MORE uncomfortable to watch live. Sunday meet the press for anyone wanting to Googly. I cringed the entire time. This fuckwit can’t even be arsed to give a proper political response, instead chooses to chow down on orange bleeched butthole for a shot at VP.
At this point, he's looking better than the puppy killer. It is not clear to me if the GQP base would accept either one though, so I'm not sure why they're both trying so hard to get the VP pick.
The white supremacists will keep a few guys like Tim Scott around, because guys like Tim "know their place", and will accept any amount of abuse directed towards them. That's what makes him "one of the good ones".
They're not even trying to hide the bad parts anymore. Their Project 2025 shows that, and they're proudly showing it off. One side wants to put in place a dictator, and it seems to much of the rest of the world that a not-insignificant % of american people are happy to let them do it. The other side is led by an old man who's doing better than many could reasonable expect given the lengths his opposition goes to to prevent ANYTHING from happening.
it probably won't matter even if he isn't re-elected. :/ The GOP aren't going to be "beaten" just by voting them out. If they can't win the votes, they'll take by force.
i mean ahve you seen a not-insignificant amount of americans? they are racist white supremacists, they are christo-fascists, and they want to make it legal to marry & impregnate teenagers and make it illegal to get rid of baby....ofc they would want dictator as that dictator is literally all of those in 1 as well.
It's all a smoke show, he's been hemorrhaging support for years and hasn't picked up any additional support from fence sitters or any group of significant numbers. The only way he's winning is through cheating, voter suppression, and appealing to apathy through the character assassination of Biden (like what he did with Hilary). If everyone votes no matter what, he's done. Any apparent mass support he has are mostly foreign propaganda farms from Russia, China, and their ilk.
"A not-insignificant % of American people" ARE happy to let them do it, which is terrifying enough, but it will not suddenly disappear if Trump loses in 2024. They won't believe it, will most likely subsequently commit violence, and what should terrify every intelligent person in the world is that it has been shown that this WORKS in American politics.
Trump wins he will dismantle all levers of checks and balances. The beginning of the end for USA. He will 100 go for a third term, locking up or killing who he needs.
The beginning of the end for the USA was when Trump wasn't locked up on 1/7. We're just seeing how long we can drag the dying body along before the Fascist States of America erupts from the corpse. I'm sorry, but there was a solution that needed to happen within 6 months of the event, and it didn't. It's too late.
As a trans woman, I am seriously considering looking into my options for fleeing the country and seeking asylum, immediately after the results are announced, should trump be elected.
I'm a straight cis white male and I'm fucking terrified for the wonderful people who are any kind of minority. I lose sleep over it. Hard to imagine what it's like for you, makes me cry just thinking about it
As a brown guy, I was right there with you in that consideration. I was about to jump ship in 2016, but if he somehow wins 2025 I'm getting the eff out of this dystopia.
Well? Miss me with this "seriously considering" bullshit and come back and say something when yoy actually do it on are fighting for change. Otherwise shut the fuck up.
I vote. But not everyone has the strength to be an activist. People call me brave for living as trans, but I hate that because it's all I can do to hold it together in this environment. So I'm sorry if I'm not getting up to any heroics.
In 2016 people were looking into options in case things went really bad. Because remember we have a 3 branch government specifically to try to stem issues and limit abuses. They got to see that barely anything was keeping Trump in check. We got to witness how bad things got and how much worse he made them. It’s understood now that him getting into the White House again is legitimately the end. Last time was weary watching. 2024 is Dunkirk.
It isn't *that* bad, but we're getting there, with Wilders and Thierry Baudet. One is a staunch "critic" of Islam (read: Hates everything about it and all but advocates genocide) and the other went on record with saying Trump should be leader of the free world for life. So we have these two morons at the head of state. May the government fall, and swiftly.
No one is getting a pony. The choices are an old but reliable draught horse. Or an old shit covered addlebrained pig with 91 felony counts across 4 indictments.
Their age is largely irrelevant. You have to look at who the VP is and what their parties have done. Neither choice will please everyone. But, one party tried to overthrow the government, steal electoral college votes, is purging voter rolls of people not in their party, taking away rights from effectively 25% of the population, with plans to increase that to 51%. The other party is at least trying to help people.
The way I read it is that TheYodajen was just stressing that the 'old' thing isn't even a valid argument for Biden, as they are BOTH old. And I don't get the downvotes for this. I doubt (s)he was claiming they are the same.
Thank you. I do think it is irresponsible to continue the narrative that Biden is 'the old candidate'. They are both too old, but he is 100 percent winning his presidency. He's the SANE candidate that has done incredible things for this country on almost every level possible. That is the narrative. Infrastructure, jobs, student loans, housing against the most ridiculously fiercest of opposition. Still winning
SleepyHollowAppleTree
copperdomebodhi
The Democrats need to start selling themselves as the party of law and order NOW. Republicans are showing they have no respect for it.
psmith00
'bout the most extreme case of Stockholm Syndrome i've ever seen.
There is no way I will ever understand how any reasoning black individual can be a member of the Republican Party. Are they actively trying to become slaves again?
amb1021
All these black men and white women humiliating themselves dancing for Trump's pleasure and he's gonna pick a white dude. (And then hopefully get shellacked in the election and finally fucking go away.)
PerthAussieMike
In other words, as far as he is concerned, if Trump doesn't win, he won't accept the result. There, that was simple, wasn't it.
or0b0ur0s
It's not just a Cult of Personality, and a dangerous one. This whole thing, before COVID and through it, is an episode of Mass Psychosis brought on by too many decades of irresponsible propaganda ("Republican" == "American", "Democrat" == "Anti-American"), the gutting of our schools, and the wholesale looting of the most prosperous economy in human history. It will get uglier before it gets better... if it gets better at all.
Shoutrr
i wonder why he keep telling himself he'd still have a place of power in a country run by racists
Targe0
Someone has to be the Uncle Tom to keep the slaves inline.
DrSchlepenstein
Trump gets elected again and Uncle Ruckus there will either end up dead or back in a field picking cotton.
Targe0
His best option is to become a publicity token, only brought out to show the world that they treat black people ok. A Gilded cage is still a cage, no matter how nice it is inside it.
justadude41123
The overwhelming confidence these guys have with Trump winning makes me think Trump might win like Putin did recently with “87% of the vote”
PoliticalWanderer
Targe0
Aw, look at the little snowflake and his feelings. Doesn't matter what people feel votes cast are votes cast, they need to get the fuck over themselves.
fractalsphere
Imagine what kind of bribes or blackmail a black senator is getting to back the nazi party
painstream
There are a lot of talking heads and politicians that don't care because "I got mine" runs strong in this country.
Whitebeardthepirate
"we just want a dictatorship where we rule over the rest of you sub-humans! Is that so wrong?!" - GOP
Grenateh
Should have been shot on the spot for this no joke no cap.
Crowlands
"I'm an enemy of America, I do not respect your government, I reject democracy."
Give him a choice: Execution, or strip him of all assets and throw him into Exile. One way or another, people like this should be removed from the country that actively oppose.
DaSauceSeeker
Targe0
It's just plain old corruption. Nothing too complicated.
narcoleptiKnickers
He won't be sitting at the back of the Trump Bus. He'll be under it.
hotdoginathermos
This is Trump and MAGA we're talking about. Being dragged behind it is more likely.
lovehandlesmessiah
The ghost of James Byrd Junior agrees.
keys79
Brought to you by the same people who got mad when Taylor Swift told people to vote. Because apparently fair elections and good voter turnout are “democrat conspiracies”.
StellarJay77
I can't remember who said it but it was a Republican pundit who said "If everyone votes, Republicans will never be in office again".
DerpeDimmer
Illithidbane
He's a Republican. He CAN'T give a yes or no answer because he's on the wrong side and knows it. Yes = he's a traitor to MAGA. No = he's a traitor to America. Nonsense = he'll getting Red Hat votes.
swedeonamoose
Think it is written in any right leaning party handbook, give a long ass speech in where you never actually answear the question you were given, or just blame the previous goverment if it was center/left leaning.
2074red2074
Sometimes I wonder if it's like that Key and Peele sketch where they just physically cannot agree with Obama. Maybe they're so far gone that they just avoid answering the question directly as a reflex. Doesn't even matter the question. "Senator would you like pizza for lunch?" "Well I don't think it's fair to call pizza a pie. You're stretching the definition to ridiculous lengths." "No senator, I want to know if it's okay for your lunch." "Well pineapple on pizza is a controversial thing..."
Illithidbane
https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/the-life-of-a-puppet
nahlej
yikesaroni
what a profoundly broken ass party
Beardedgeek72
Depends. If it's goal is to usher in Christofascism then it is an exceptionally well functioning party.
ximzadix
looked at objectively, I think many would consider the GOP an extremist group.
Beardedgeek72
Conservatism is a breeding ground for terrorists
VictusVonGuyver
Remember, with people like this supporting him after Jan 6, there is only one outcome.
Targe0
If he won, there wouldn't be opponents. Because there wouldn't be elections. He'd crown himself king and pick one of his kids as an heir to his new dynasty.
candle340
"At the end of the day, Donald Trump will be the 47th President."
He's literally saying he will not accept the results if Biden wins. If you can't say "yes" to a simple yes or no question, then your answer is "no" - even if you won't say the word.
dudeinsha
Don’t boo, vote.
januarylover
Do both
DarthVaderDidNothingWrong
It's kinda cute that he doesn't want a soundbite out there which can be held against him if he doesn't accept the outcome. As if the cultists would care!
DancesWithHippos
Well, as a POC, his base makes him jump through a whole lotta hoops that it doesn't make its Yt members jump through, y'know, on account of the racism.
Tumescentpie
Exactly. If the news broke that Trump shot a dog. Trump supporters would be shooting their dogs tomorrow.
Tumescentpie
The only reason they are upset that a woman did it, is because she's a woman and they wanted a reason to hate her.
DancesWithHippos
>100%. That said, whatever keeps them from doing that is one of the few positive forces in the GOP universe right now, so I'll allow it.
DarthVaderDidNothingWrong
Dunno, it seems that *everyone* must follow the MAGA talking points of the day, regardless of color.
DancesWithHippos
Oh, sure. But if someone slips up in an interview, as long as they are diehard magats, they'll blame the media and wait for it to blow over.
UnattendedDeviant
I'm not a violent man, but I wanna slap him. Just say you'll only call the election legit if Trump wins. I saw the video. He tried to finish with "I don't want to answer your HYPOTHETICAL question." It's not the least bit a hypothetical question.
StellarJay77
These people are not smart enough to walk through how absolutely near impossible it would be to swing a national election fraudulently without a single shred of evidence and their egos will not allow them to admit they are wrong and lost because their ideology is not only unpopular but also awful and harmful. There's a reason there's plenty of evidence of voter suppression from Republicans.
Omnisin
The non-violent people of the world should serve as a great warning to fascism rhetoric if it compels them to act out on the reflex urge to defend themselves and others. Also they get first dibs on bitch slapping fascists. Beware the anger of a gentle man.
FallingStar7669
It sure is hypothetical: if the Republicans have their way, there won't be an election.
slinkydust
They plan to purge voters and hope Democrats aren't paying attention so when they go to vote they are denied. After the election there will be so many complaints they can say, "See elections are broken"
zagibu
I wanna slap her, because she should just have said. "Okay, if you are sure that Trump will be president, that just means you either believe in the magic of fortune telling, or you won't accept a Biden win and will thus support an unconstitutional and probable violent takeover of the capitol in the case that Trump loses."
zagibu
"So you're either dumb or a traitor."
oldguyexlurker
Her proper response should have been, "It wasn't hypothetical last time. Answer the question or concede that you will support an illegal coup."
trippingthelightfantastic
Rovylern
"We're cheating so hard and we still lose! They MUST be cheating more!" - Republicunts.
januarylover
Cheats & liars. All of them.
unfortunatelynotdeadyet
How does this not disqualify you from any government position
draek1
They make the rules
Crowlands
How does this not get your ass fucking Exiled?
januarylover
THIS. This statement should be enough to disqualify a person from running. You can't trust someone like this to uphold democracy. You can't trust someone like this to have any integrity whatsoever. You can't trust their word.
lovehandlesmessiah
The GOP in Congress just denied Biden's cancer bill because HOW DARE THEY hand him a win so close to the election. More orphans for the orphan crushing machine...
unfortunatelynotdeadyet
And the right wing media will never report this, so the republican voters will never know. What a fucked up broken system we have created.
TheOneTrueZippy8
VikingsAreNinjaPirates
He actually failed the Turing Test. I know she's talking to a non-human intelligence... or a human non-intelligence.
GeraldsNinjaStar
And this attitude helps them lie. You write them off as stupid when they're intentionally lying, obfuscating, and appearing credible. Writing them off as stupid makes you stop paying attention while they do their worst.
TheOneTrueZippy8
I regard lying - the deliberate presentation of an untruth as the truth - to be the behaviour of an idiot. A failure to accept reality as it is and not attempt to impose some fantasy diminishes anyone in my eyes.
It does not mean I ignore them. It does not mean I do not correct their folly.
GeraldsNinjaStar
You're wrong then. Lying is done by highly intelligent people as a tool of manipulation. Lying can be done by idiots, but fools write off stupidity when it can be dangerous and wide spread. Lies are like embers in a forest that lead to massive fires. You don't ignore the embers if you are wise. They lead to danger later.
TheOneTrueZippy8
Well that's me told, isn't it.
GeraldsNinjaStar
yup
Hexrowe
That man is a dishonest WEASEL. Granted, he may also be an idiot, but I don't think that's the main thing on display here.
TheOneTrueZippy8
I consider the idiocy to be the underlying reason behind the other, multiple character flaws.
Hexrowe
Yeah, fair enough, although mere idiocy won't make you dodge and weave like this in the face of a simple question with an obvious right answer. This is active, deliberate, spineless weaseling, abject moral and intellectual cowardice _with malice aforethought,_ you know? Stuff like this doesn't come naturally no matter how DUMB you are.
Noughmad
No he's not. He's deliberately refusing to answer the question, while using the platform to spread his own propaganda, in a way that Republicans will point to as "look how he owned the libs".
TheOneTrueZippy8
I hardly regard this as a sign of intellectual prowess.
Noughmad
You should. It is a skill, a very useful and dangerous one.
TheOneTrueZippy8
I draw a distinction between intelligence and cunning.
And this is so blatant it hardly even qualifies as the latter.
Photeus
Hes doing a great job of looking out for a white supremacist dictatorship that will discard him the first chance they get.
ToSisPoS
“I shall be the highest-ranking Kapo in the camp!”
boognish115
Yah but lower taxes amirite? /s
ztygs
Surely not his face tho..
RenegadeSci
A real "Max Naumann".
ArdentSlacker
He wants white supremacy for the same reason they do. A place in the conservative hierarchy of abuse that's not the bottom, so he can kick down... just once, before it's his turn being kicked down on.
It's unreasonable to believe these folks are all ignorant of the fact that they *will* be declared the out-group very quickly. But they all get to hurt people, and all their policies are obviously intended to do harm... so that has to be the real reason behind their actions.
ArdentSlacker
Alternatively, we could, I suppose, believe the obvious lies that they want to round up and kill every LGBTQ+ person to "protect the children" that aren't worth protecting from bullets or republicans setting fire to federal money to feed children.
They really do only care about "owning the libs" and harming people. And they keep telling us this over and over...
johnvictor
Tokens get spent by them.
UnhelpfulAnswers
But the leopards said it would be someone else's face
terdfergusonuf
Surely the Leopard won’t eat my face?
- Tim Scott and any other immigrant voting for Trump. Especially Muslim brothers and sisters. Reality calls.
Seriously though, this image meme or whatever doesn’t do the video justice. It’s even MORE uncomfortable to watch live. Sunday meet the press for anyone wanting to Googly. I cringed the entire time. This fuckwit can’t even be arsed to give a proper political response, instead chooses to chow down on orange bleeched butthole for a shot at VP.
imguronefive
At this point, he's looking better than the puppy killer. It is not clear to me if the GQP base would accept either one though, so I'm not sure why they're both trying so hard to get the VP pick.
zagibu
Nah they need a house boy.
Targe0
Given how they currently act, they likely would only have house girls so they could have easy access to do all the things you would expect.
NCPilot
But he proved to them that he's one of the good ones! Surely they won't line him up the wall with the rest of his fellow black Americans, right!? /s
imguronefive
The white supremacists will keep a few guys like Tim Scott around, because guys like Tim "know their place", and will accept any amount of abuse directed towards them. That's what makes him "one of the good ones".
HEARTS0FSPACE
"Tom" Scott
ximzadix
They're not even trying to hide the bad parts anymore. Their Project 2025 shows that, and they're proudly showing it off.
One side wants to put in place a dictator, and it seems to much of the rest of the world that a not-insignificant % of american people are happy to let them do it.
The other side is led by an old man who's doing better than many could reasonable expect given the lengths his opposition goes to to prevent ANYTHING from happening.
We are scared, should Trump be re-elected :(
NineByNine
it probably won't matter even if he isn't re-elected. :/ The GOP aren't going to be "beaten" just by voting them out. If they can't win the votes, they'll take by force.
hotaru251
i mean ahve you seen a not-insignificant amount of americans? they are racist white supremacists, they are christo-fascists, and they want to make it legal to marry & impregnate teenagers and make it illegal to get rid of baby....ofc they would want dictator as that dictator is literally all of those in 1 as well.
Vauclain
Trump won’t be re-elected. That isn’t to say he won’t be president though…
sundaymondayhippyday
Sm9yCg
They control the courts. There are no legal or systemic repercussions possible anymore. The only way left to stop them is bloddy violence
livingonagiantfireball
And its not happening
StellarJay77
It's all a smoke show, he's been hemorrhaging support for years and hasn't picked up any additional support from fence sitters or any group of significant numbers. The only way he's winning is through cheating, voter suppression, and appealing to apathy through the character assassination of Biden (like what he did with Hilary). If everyone votes no matter what, he's done. Any apparent mass support he has are mostly foreign propaganda farms from Russia, China, and their ilk.
supertigerlamp
"A not-insignificant % of American people" ARE happy to let them do it, which is terrifying enough, but it will not suddenly disappear if Trump loses in 2024. They won't believe it, will most likely subsequently commit violence, and what should terrify every intelligent person in the world is that it has been shown that this WORKS in American politics.
echoawoo
It only works if you're a cishet white man violencing the right persons.
heartlessninja6
MLK jr said it was the indifferent whites that posed the biggest problem to progress.
chufly
Trump wins he will dismantle all levers of checks and balances. The beginning of the end for USA. He will 100 go for a third term, locking up or killing who he needs.
ClutteredDesk
The beginning of the end for the USA was when Trump wasn't locked up on 1/7. We're just seeing how long we can drag the dying body along before the Fascist States of America erupts from the corpse. I'm sorry, but there was a solution that needed to happen within 6 months of the event, and it didn't. It's too late.
FoxyEllie
As a trans woman, I am seriously considering looking into my options for fleeing the country and seeking asylum, immediately after the results are announced, should trump be elected.
McSkeevely
I'm a straight cis white male and I'm fucking terrified for the wonderful people who are any kind of minority. I lose sleep over it. Hard to imagine what it's like for you, makes me cry just thinking about it
selej
Canada will turn bad in the next few years unfortunately. Im sort of glad i wont be alive to see it.
jermprobably
As a brown guy, I was right there with you in that consideration. I was about to jump ship in 2016, but if he somehow wins 2025 I'm getting the eff out of this dystopia.
DevouringEarth
Keep your passport updated and consider arming yourself.
Xenarion
I would say come to Canada but honestly the USA's far right is seeping more and more around here. I'm getting scared.
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16bitStarbuck
Well? Miss me with this "seriously considering" bullshit and come back and say something when yoy actually do it on are fighting for change. Otherwise shut the fuck up.
FoxyEllie
I vote. But not everyone has the strength to be an activist. People call me brave for living as trans, but I hate that because it's all I can do to hold it together in this environment. So I'm sorry if I'm not getting up to any heroics.
darkdragonempress
In 2016 people were looking into options in case things went really bad. Because remember we have a 3 branch government specifically to try to stem issues and limit abuses. They got to see that barely anything was keeping Trump in check. We got to witness how bad things got and how much worse he made them. It’s understood now that him getting into the White House again is legitimately the end. Last time was weary watching. 2024 is Dunkirk.
WarlockSniper
The Netherlands is, our current fascism phase aside, still pretty good for transgender individuals.
apneax3n0n
your current fascism will never even be comparable to usa one or italian one. trust me
WarlockSniper
It isn't *that* bad, but we're getting there, with Wilders and Thierry Baudet. One is a staunch "critic" of Islam (read: Hates everything about it and all but advocates genocide) and the other went on record with saying Trump should be leader of the free world for life.
So we have these two morons at the head of state. May the government fall, and swiftly.
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ztygs
Neither of them matter tho. They're puppets on a string for their side to parade around and one side is a lot better than the other.
narcoleptiKnickers
Let me say it again.
No one is getting a pony. The choices are an old but reliable draught horse. Or an old shit covered addlebrained pig with 91 felony counts across 4 indictments.
ximzadix
Thats like saying ice and fire are extreme temperatures.
Technically correct but also completely missing the point that they're polar opposites.
Krossis
dudehiemer
Their age is largely irrelevant. You have to look at who the VP is and what their parties have done. Neither choice will please everyone. But, one party tried to overthrow the government, steal electoral college votes, is purging voter rolls of people not in their party, taking away rights from effectively 25% of the population, with plans to increase that to 51%. The other party is at least trying to help people.
TheYodajen
The other party IS helping people. So many people are benefitting from this presidency.
ricpaul
Not sure why you're getting so much hate for driving home the point that Trump is old as well.
ximzadix
My original point was in no way about Biden being old.
It was about the only real complaint the 'other' side has is that he is old.
The 2 are NOT the same.
ricpaul
The way I read it is that TheYodajen was just stressing that the 'old' thing isn't even a valid argument for Biden, as they are BOTH old. And I don't get the downvotes for this. I doubt (s)he was claiming they are the same.
TheYodajen
Thank you. I do think it is irresponsible to continue the narrative that Biden is 'the old candidate'. They are both too old, but he is 100 percent winning his presidency. He's the SANE candidate that has done incredible things for this country on almost every level possible. That is the narrative. Infrastructure, jobs, student loans, housing against the most ridiculously fiercest of opposition. Still winning