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(originally posted by @VeliReign on 2021-12-08 11:58:21)
Dec 7, 2022 2:00 PM
ThisTimeLastYear
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(originally posted by @VeliReign on 2021-12-08 11:58:21)
Awmph
Masks were neutral until Trump and the associated victims and shitheads decide to make a big deal about them
RFT42
If the public health advice had been wear a mask if you feel sick, then people may have been more receptive to that advice
SteveMND
"Masking is [...] showing kindness to others." I do believe they just answered their own question.
PiercedViking
kamosey
Whelpseeyoulater
I wish this was more of a thing during cold/flu season. It’s become political instead of being respectful of others.
OGshogun
America has a long way to go when it comes to empathy.
gonadogrady
Americans don’t like being told what to do. Except by celebrities, athletes, our bosses, police, and traffic lights.
FeloniousMonk13
I LIKE wearing a mask quite a bit, I'd just as soon not have my face on cameras everywhere. Love the privacy of it.
Snooj
Same here. I enjoyed talking to myself out in public without looking crazy.
DuelingBrothers
I remember playing Persona 5 during the pandemic. My conservative step dad saw people in masks and called it liberal indoctrination.
DuelingBrothers
I had to explain the game is older than the pandemic and they do that in Japan to be polite to other people when they are sick.
Skyff
That's the part they don't like - showing kindness to others.
heckingoodboi56
I'm leaning towards the "if liberals support it, it must be the devil" kind of explanation. Killing themselves and others is just a bonus
Bananaformeow
They don't like showing kindless *equally*. They want all to suffer like they supposedly did. Why try to make their lives better/easier?
giganticroboticpenguin
Amazing when something isn't considered controversial by any of the major political parties. I guess News Corp doesn't own outlets in Japan?
Dudedeedood
It's really not complicated. But these fuckstains....
TheBretters
We're fucking spoiled here any minor inconvenience is looked at as a trampling of our rights. We fucking suck
or0b0ur0s
Because U.S. culture has been overtaken, for generations, but anti-intellectual bullying. Compassion, empathy, altruism & generosity are >
or0b0ur0s
all considered "weakness", which is not only repulsive but dangerous and to be rooted out by force...
RacanGiraffeMonster
I am from Europe. I was always angry at the 10% in my City who don't wear their Mask in Public Transport. (It is mandatory) i recently
RacanGiraffeMonster
Visited Berlin. Turns Out 90% of the people there don't wear their mandatory masks in Public Transportation.. -.-
BlairT1
Rugged individualism has morphed into “I’m a huge selfish, shortsighted asshole, I got mine, fuck all y’all” and it’s a huge problem
IMACheekyMonkey
Kindness to others isn't a white Christian thing anymore.
Simusar
Yes, but in the USA, it's not about "kindness to others" it's about "Am I being inconvenienced in the slightest way that could be perceived
Simusar
as someone infringing on my rights!?!?!?!?!?" There's no logical, or otherwise, rational behind it other than ingrained selfishness.
IdiotSavantTinker
I wear one now whenever I'm not feeling 100%. Nobody else wants my sore throat or cold.
adiving
Which is why in a real civilized society you don't go out... I understand you can't in the US but this Japan business is not the right way.
imakesoap
I still wear them because (as a grandma, lol) they cover up wrinkles! Win-win!!
sirdouglasbuttersworth
I've been forced back to the office and people come in with hacking coughs and full on illnesses. I'm baffled as to why that's okay
SteveTheEgg
Japan teaches responsibility to society, America teaches self centered greed.
KaJuN
It was never just the mask. It was being TOLD to wear the mask.
ricpaul
Please, for the love of God, don't shoot yourself in the face... /s
hardytardigrade
Yup. self-centered and entitled people don't like being told they should do something, even to save lives.
iputthefiresout
Americans are heavy on individualism. We pretend to have kindness for others, but only as far as it extends to not having to do something 1/
iputthefiresout
I think a lot of that has to do with misinterpretation of Christianity. Tithing is important, and easy. You don't have to DO anything, you 2
iputthefiresout
give money, and you're done. It costs no time or inconvenience, other than a few dollars. The Bible also teaches to DO good to others 3/
iputthefiresout
and to self-sacrifice for others, but that requires you to actually do something. Now it's a real sacrifice, and ain't no one got time 4/
iputthefiresout
for that. Besides, I made on my own, with no help from anyone ever, so everyone can do it on their own. Sarcasm in those last 2 sentences5/5
penzick
As a (former) NY'er, it's been common to see (mostly) Asians wearing masks since forever. We should all start doing it when we may be sick.
necrojoe
Sw the same when I started withing downtown San Francisco 10 years ago, and agree.
drcookieninja
I was literally in China like a year or so before the COVID, everyone with a sniffle wore masks. Asian immigrants in Canada did too.
DeadeicPrints
I've always done that, especially if I had to go to the store for medicine while sick. People looked at me so weird back then.
Recidivous
I was doing that for years too and no one ever batted an eye. Suddenly it gets recommended and MAG folks get mad.
SteveMND
I always liked the idea, and kinda hoped we'd do it here in the states as well. Just didn't expected it to take a literal global pandemic.
7thor8thcaw
People struggle to breathe in them as well, apparently. I've fallen asleep in a mask before so I don't understand that problem.
henryvk
I do occupational training and I'll say that with in-person sessions it was very hard for me to talk for an hour or two with a mask on.
macthelost
It is ever so slightly harder to breathe through them, and probably easier to sleep, I used to nap most of the time I had to wear a gas mask
macthelost
And those were a bit harder to breathe in than a mask. But any filter causes some resistance, that’s why race cars don’t use air filters
mistermixelpix
They don't struggle. They just feel mildly uncomfortable and are such babies they can't handle that.
CuntCrotchula
Yeah, i have asthma and i worked out in a mask with zero issues
effigyoma
I only had issues on very long runs when I would sweat a lot. The mask would be soaked though.
zFUBARz
Same, only thing that gives me issues is using sanitizer cause the alcohol smell comes through very potently. Learned to deal though.
nanyatenyaa
Gotta unwrap this a bit here. Japan is a group-think society where people do things that benefit the group, not themselves.
nanyatenyaa
Many western countries, like the US, value independence and self reliance more and priortize caring for oneself over the group.
nanyatenyaa
One is NOT better than the other. Japan is experiencing problems with worker burn out/mental health as a result not focusing on individuals.
detour512
I’ve heard this many times. The burn out sucks, so much of it.
nanyatenyaa
The different approaches to whether a group or individual gets preference for being prioritized for care has different benefits/issues.
nanyatenyaa
When you consistently hold the group's well being above that of individuals, there are draw backs.
nanyatenyaa
To simply say "we do it to show kindness" over simplifies the culture as well the benefits and drawbacks of the cultural norms.
daychilde
A collective society vs independent society
Nim449
independent? not so much. more like arrogant selfishness.
nanyatenyaa
No... the cultures are very different. One will consistently priortize group well being even if its to severe detriment of individuals.
nanyatenyaa
You are vastly over simplifying the difference between 2 cultures, simply because it makes to easier to digest and have a witty retort.
nanyatenyaa
For example in Japan its pretty normal for people to be asked to work many extra hours often for no extra pay.
nanyatenyaa
Individuals might suffer as a result but the group you're a member of does well, so it gets a pass.
Nim449
You lack reading-comprehension. I am fully aware of the cultural contrast. My objection is your 1950's cliched 'independent'.
Nim449
It has evolved into something much more foul.
TheWarHymn
Yeah...collectivism doesn't automatically mean altruism/good ethics.
drcookieninja
I mean, you don't even have to leave Japan, they were essentially Asian version of Nazi Germany, and they're still denying their war crimes.
drcookieninja
Over half the country (60 to 75%) still supporting the emperor, saying 'Great Imperial Japanese Empire (i.e. Nazi Japan) did nothing wrong.'
daychilde
No shit. But collective societies are better at protecting each other by wearing fucking masks.
Randomice
Yeah, that whole 'kindness to others' thing...that's just un-American.
wisher1977
But we have moms apple pie and baseball, so we have that going for us, which is nice.
hugemuffin
Kindness runs counter to this: https://imgur.com/qVpqoSe.jpg
hipifreq
No time for kindness when you're driving the Manifest Destiny Steamroller
iacrotty114
kriswinters
And un-Christian.
deadpool381
Jesus would hate us being kind to each other
HonestlyNotARobot
kindness to others is taken as weakness to middle America/the right wing
g0st
This is a conservative-American problem. They are undeniably the core group pushing the anti-mask narrative.
AlexMurphy20
Good point, thanks for putting this out, no one else has put this out
Astridnaut
Self-awareness? Kindness to others? Oh, you mean COMMUNISM!
GenXHippie
I les Socialism is the scarier word. Then they use that one.
IHateYouMyselfAndEveryone
Yes, communism, the sort of economic structure which supports the community and not the individual. Yes. Communism.
HeirElfSquire
I suppose you want some of the free medical care too??? /s
Zaruzen
Thats the entire west. Swedish here, I barely saw any masks at all during the pandemic. 1 in 20 or something wore a mask.
transientmind
Wasn’t Sweden the home of the infamous ‘dry tinder’ quote?
Mallaliak
And if they were 50+, they did not cover their nose with it. I've felt so different being one of those who would wear a mask proper.
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
I'm in Ontario, Canada, and they were mandatory for quite a long time. About a year. Now not many are wearing them. I still do.
Zaruzen
I got berated in Japan for wearing a mask. Think he was american xD
dakonsept
"What did he say?" "Be kind to others." "Oh yeah, that'll do it.".
Bananaformeow
Definitely un-Christian.?
NewToTheEnterwbs
We don't want that "kindness" aka Communist, Marxist, Fascist, Socialist, hippie, woke, tolerance, understanding, here in the USA /s
nubblebun
Interferes with that rugged individualism you know.
cosonfused
fuck you, I'll sue you for that. /s
MarkySpaceMagnet
Unfortunately true, some people believe that it is their "right" as an American to be rude to others.
bbydlik327
Isn’t kindness to others socialism???
ALLCAPSROCK
"Sounds like a commie plot" ~ Bubba
Shaodyn
Around half the country takes pride in never helping anyone but themselves. Only filthy commie liberals help people.
Trelis
The venn diagram of those prideful people and supposedly Christians is too close to a circle, despite Jesus's teachings.
Shaodyn
Refuse to help anybody who needs it because they'll "get dependent on handouts and be too lazy to work," but also claim to follow Jesus.
Shaodyn
No, really. Conservative voters are hesitant to help others even in minor ways like holding doors, for fear of being considered liberal.
anjeleyezjr
Holding doors is more common than you think in red areas. Middle of iowa, we all hold doors when the person is close enough.
Skywatcher16
yeah, but the fact that theres even a few that fit what hes describing is a significant issue and failure of society as a whole
Shaodyn
Some people legitimately refuse to do even minor good deeds for others, purely for political reasons. That's a serious issue.
FuzzyX
A lot of American is now... Got mine so fuck all of you.
wo1fie
But MUH FREEEEEDUUMMBS
DBHawkins7
Couldn’t agree more
SlappytheDummy
Not just in US my friend. Selfishness is everywhere and getting worse and worse. The sad truth.
TheElusiveEnchilada
Most Americans:
Skywatcher16
at least since the red scare made empathy=communism=dictatorship
gabicraina
How about if they name their AR-15 "Kindness"? Would that qualify as showing "kindness to others", or "killing with kindness"?
hstryfreak
Really funny because Texas’s state motto is “friendship”
cozmicflea
And Philadelphia is the “city of brotherly love”, which I am positive is sarcasm
Higure
Kindness to others is pretty common in the US (if you know where to look). But people want to show that kindness 100% on their own terms.
Higure
The moment authorities budge in and tell people in detail how to show kindness and mandate it, heels will dig in. That's just how the US is.
littlefoxpounce
I'm just gonna say weird for word what a Trump spatter said to me once. "If you love socialism so much, why don't you go live in China"
littlefoxpounce
They also told me I have a ton of typos in this post
manhands
But you have a cute username, so at least you have got that going for you
littlefoxpounce
** blushes ** :3
NZCO
Weird for word sounds appropriate for a chat with a trumper.
littlefoxpounce
Yeah especially since he thought he had a right to a handicap parking spot with absolutely no placard or anything because he was ex military
futureman3000
That's because you're a communionist
keys79
Damn socialites.
coalminersknuckle
It’s not socialites those are the things than form on the roof is caves. You’re thinking of somatotypes.
BernieSandersMittens
Living in their aviary towers.
commentsivehadafew
Because compassion is seen as weakness
Simusar
Well, Christianity clearly states that the down-trodden should be ostracized and marginalized right?... right? /s
whatifgodwasoneofus
Toxic masculinity in action
AllisDashChalmersWasAnInsideJob
Yes. American "culture" is very barbaric
RandyRandalman
Benevolence is not human nature, we are scared apes with advanced prefrontal cortexes after all. Damn lizard monkey brain stem...
TypicallyVigo
Are you saying benevolent actions are always the product of psychological damage?
eightyearplan
https://evonomics.com/chimpanzees-prove-elites-dont-understand-darwin
brownribbon
Yes it is.
GFYandyourstupidrequirements
But, in fact, we are mostly benevolent.
RandyRandalman
Lol mostly yeah sure
alexstamat
Just because you are a selfish prick doesn’t mean everyone else is as well.
GFYandyourstupidrequirements
Maybe it’s just you
Syrpynt
Sociopathy and Psychopathy. I'll keep saying it. It's literally the evil we read/see/hear in all of our fiction, and non-fiction.
moustacheKin
Lead poisoning imo
reijitamashii
I'm 100% with you. I've been saying for a while now that a disturbingly large portion of Americans show psychopathic or sociopathic traits.
ThisIsYourLifeNow
Its not only generational wealth that the upper class inherited. Its also the consequences of having a mentally ill parent raising them.
ThisIsYourLifeNow
And they also forced "middle class" into mental illness. No, working 80 hours a week is not normal and has consquences. now it shows
CallsYouATosser
As someone with trauma-induced sociopathic traits, I agree. We're all mad here!