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✝Pope Francis stops motorcade to bless disabled kid. The car didn't even stop. The pope was about to do a tuck and roll to bless this kid.
Jun 14, 2017 10:31 AM
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ajizzle
in the US old dudes giving out magic healing kisses will get you sent to jail
Invalidusernameformat1
Pope rolling like a gangsta in a Ford Focus wtf lol
ObiWanShalomi
Security: Sir, that vehicle doesn't have bulletproof windows, we can't escort you in that. Pope: Get in loser. You see this body kit?
TheMershedPerderder
Stop the car! There is some blessin' to do!
HinguDinguDurgen
Hold my holy water.
imgurguru00
HandsomeJackWilshere
Now everybody in the I-N-RI put your hands in the air and follow me!
grimfandango
When the pope is dope.
eyeLied
They see me rollin, they prayin, hopin and tryna catch me ridin holy
NotAnIroningBoard
"And the pope got out of his 08 Ford Focus"
HelloToe
Would you rather have a pope that rides around in a big expensive limo?
NotAnIroningBoard
Nah I like it, I just think it seems like the part of the story where your friend goes, mate - that wasn't the pope.
Mcswigginsbar
This kind of stuff always touches my heart. He's the example all humans should aspire to be; religious or not.
Ryulin25
Don't know what they were thinking would happen. A quick bless you and he'd get up and stop being a diaper wearer?
SpiderSalad
Catholics are equal opportunity kid touchers
bloodsweatandmurder
Like the blessing will have any effect on this poor guys disability
convolution
And the kid is still disabled after this "blessing".
marsii
It doesn't do shit to help bit its the comfort that counts
Classicvictory
So what's he going to do to actually help the kid?
abcdude321
A kiss on the forehead and a gentle caress
Straiza
Normally I'm not a fan of religion, but this act most likely had many positive psychological effects on the people there. GGWP
DonnaNobleHasLeftTheLibrary
I remember when this happened, I seem to recall a follow-up where the kid's brain tumor had dramatically shrunk. Hold on, gonna find it.
CallsignBacon
well dont leave us hanging!
DonnaNobleHasLeftTheLibrary
Yeah, I think I made it up. I can't find anything, and he has cerebral palsy, not a tumor. Swear I heard that somewhere though. Oh well!
CallsignBacon
fair enough haha
CreepyPhlox
My favorite part is that the kid seems to understand what's happening. You can see his smile at the end. Very heartwarming.
avervetmonkey
If he has c. Palsy as said in the comments, he could easily be normal mentally, just not have muscle/physical coordination control.
fluhatinrapper
Good Guy White Pope?
SlagathorDeb
I was thinking "Good going white Pope."
DonnaNobleHasLeftTheLibrary
Okay apparently, I made that up because I can't find anything about it. The kid has cerebral palsy, idk why I thought there was a tumor.
fluhatinrapper
IT'S NOT A TUMA!
AlabasterCrashesDown
I assume it's exciting being blessed by your idol. But in reality it does nothing but perhaps give people false hope.
TheInfamousPenguin
But it did fuck all to help the kid other than make him feel nice
amazingrusher
For many people, feeling nice is what they need. Of course there're other/better ways to help people.
NotTodayNotYesterday
May I ask why? If it's for the fact that some ruin it for the rest, why be a fan of anything? Imgur, the population, all of those have that
AngusThermopyle
Pope Francis and the Dalai Lama need to go on tour together.
Winndypops
They hang out a lot but actually have some disagreements on the world, nothing that stops them being cool together of course.
DirtyBirdofQuestionableGeometry
What do they disagree on?
GrumpyOldManWhatSignedUpToCommentThis
Holiest brand of firearm, probably. http://www.bestdalailamaquotes.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/dalai-lama-guard.jpg
AngusThermopyle
I need a them-on-the-same bus co-headliner tour.
Winndypops
I could get behind that.
CantComeUpWithACreativeUsername
YES! THIS!
Coreation
God must have many forms if he creates so many disabled people in his image.
ThaEnder
Maybe he's got one them wacky mirrors and can't tell what he really looks like.
Coreation
I like how we all know that God is a "he" :D
ThaEnder
Well, he was made in MAN's image. / Alternatively, did we just assume God's gender?!
Coreation
Yea I did. Since almost everyone refer to "him" as "our Father"? Did not know an entity with power of miraculous magnitude needed a penis.
fserrano357
So is the kid better now?
mollison
That's not always the point
CantComeUpWithACreativeUsername
Definitely happier
trumpsuckers
How to bless a disabled atheist.
asm80dfa8sdfj
Why are there so many disabled people on the streets? Did someone really just wheel a disabled person up on a gurney?
spintop90
The next day, HES HEALED!!!
AlbiMe
I saw it stop.... the pope is in focus
AngelsinmyMouthfield
Yea cuz pointing out science and facts really goes over well with the religious folks
TheNewestTubeGuy
"Pointing out a car has stopped doesnt go well with religious folks"
Gas0
Maybe it's the only thing he could afFord
craaaaaaaaaaaaig
AlbiMe
Jkmiller20148
HA! Good one!
CommanderWilliamTRiker
damn you
ArchPigeon
I figured that they meant he opened the door and started to get out before the car stopped.
Steelballsofstill
He better bless that things gear box, because it needs prayers
bluebl249
Roberta Flack Donny Hathaway
DonnaNobleInTheLibrary
It only looks like it doesn't stop because the camera is fucking hammered, warping the picture like crazy.
YouMayFindThisMildlyInteresting
That's post-processing image stabilization at work - it's this or shaky as fuck. There's a box you can check when you upload to YouTube.
FungusForge
That's because the dumbass holding the camera was about as steady as a drunk man in an earthquake.
VedOkaaz
Although that's hilarious, it actually wasn't the cameraman's fault. Don't know how it happens, but my phone does it too when it's hot out.
post4themost
Drive by blessin'
Jinxies
Stop this car! There's Pope'in to be done!
todayimgurlearned
First off, bless your priest and the clerics he claims...
ibespacejockey
Here you go a drive by upvote.
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darkhavana0512
paperodiabolico
Schreech'n'anoint
theinconspicuouspilgrim
tommymessala
fpsjoe1
This made me laugh harder than it should have. I just woke up and you caught me off guard, bravo sir.
IDontKnowHowToHuman
I'm laughing like a damn fool now, but in my case it's because sleep deprivation is probably starting to set in.
FrankMuir
IShouldBeStudyingRightNowInsteadOfBrowsingImgur
Try catch me ridin holy
MFuzzySmock
AsAScholar
Ill have u know. I saw this while at work. During the next call. I thought of this, snickered, customer thinks im laughing at him. Hangs up.
alrightokayohsure
DrivebyViktum
My name is relevant?
MFuzzySmock
It took me a while...
JaimeLannistersRightHand
"Cruisin down the street in my 64, blessing the bitches, prayin fo' hoes"
eetsumkaus
well, Jesus literally did bless prostitutes, so these lyrics are only fitting
YiminRong
Kind of a modest car for a Pope I would think.
Fiss
Yeah, that's kinda one of the reasons a lot of people like this Pope. He Popes instead of Pomps.
Vectorman2
Gotta let dem atheists know we got blessers out there on the streets. Let's show these fools how we do this on that Blessed Side!
sined86
lmao +10 comment
YourLackOfTrustDisturbing
Drive by exorcism
gleely
lookin' more like Pope Urban III with the blat blat blat and the bless bless bless. Got a crucifix shaped AK.
nickdoesntsharefood
Boom, blessed
RJCrane
This sounds like a pretty good song title not gonna lie
Athenawins
No no drive by tug and roll blessing
SlaaneshiRightsFront
It's all fun and games until they start with the drive by baptisms
Iamnotacreativeman
See the light motherfucker! Do you see the light now?!
zeratul1005
Spray and pray tactics like the pope with a super soaker!
borgmaster
Wait till it escalates to drive by exorcisms.
cakepunching
I drive-by baptize pedestrians every time it rains down here in FL
FeckItImAubreyPlazaNow
I had a picture of this, but I can't find it. Imagine a car hitting a big puddle creating a tsunami as you're walking past.
Donttouchthatwithoutgloves
Better than drive by circumcisions.
Iamnotacreativeman
Surprised a Jewish Orthodox doesn't have this business model yet. "slash and dash; Oy!"
dotdogs
/a/xhvg8
MFuzzySmock
Roosterfarian
The ol' slash and dash
GrumpyOldManWhatSignedUpToCommentThis
"Just nip the tip!" {Schonk!}
TouchThaFishyyy
Would they use super soakers?
Gurgron
A fire hose
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Gurgron
Best movie
NinjaCongo
Hoo boy will OP of this thoroughly forgotten gem from 2014 be surprised by my upvote...
IWasToldThereWouldBePie
You mean the ol' splash and dash?
SomeCrazyNerd
That... doesn't sound right.
eetsumkaus
like every Sunday after Easter and before the Feast of the Ascension?
MFuzzySmock
GroundZer0
Sauce.
IDontKnowHowToHuman
8) Well hello there, Sascha! ^^
post4themost
AshmoreXII
hahaha +1
RepresentativeOfNorway
Both of them look equaly upsett
ImmaNeedBoutTreeFiddy
Nachoooooo!!
NaySayerWasTakenButIAmActuallyNaySayerDoe
I don believe in God, I belive in sciance.
SlaaneshiRightsFront
I was thinking like super soakers, turn the popemobile into a tank that shoots baptisms
Fishthecoolkid
just fill a firetruck with holy water
TimbiquiDarkThirty
Or an aircraft for fighting forest fires.
thebosca1337
Make it rain on those heathens
NickOhLawz
I was thinking more like....
Techtronic
The precision! I feel like he's either very experienced or they just had to redo the take 1000 times
Link5y5
You've been blessed motherfucka!
ShutUpAndTakeMyMeme
This was my exact thought watching that. Thank you
MrStudMcMuffin
Thanks for the legitimate laugh. He fucking straight up eats it, even loses his fucking glasses in the aftermath.
themetalstickman
Even though I disagree with Roman Catholic teachings, I have a lot of respect for Pope Francis.
Coreation
He basically told the philipino's to stop breading like bunnies. But yea, cool guy. >_>
themetalstickman
I said I disagree with the Catholic Church. That means I will automatically disagree with many things the pope says.
madroxide86
Have you cross checked your comment before posting? Not what he said.. Not to mention president of Philippines called him a son of a whore.
Coreation
The president of the Philippines is a ffing cunt. Doesn't mean the pope is therefore better or worse.
madroxide86
Yes it does, a person's worth is directly outlined by his actions. He's a great pope.
Coreation
I was talking about the philippine president, doesn't mean because he's a cunt that the pope is therefore better or worse. It's irrelevant
Coreation
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/20/catholics-dont-have-to-breed-like-rabbits-says-pope-francis 1/2
madroxide86
Also, the article says "catholics", not Philipinnes. Last I check, Pope Francis was catholic.
Coreation
Ok, that doesn't really make it much better though.
Coreation
2/2 he also is strongly against contraception, the church play(s)ed a massive role in the spread of STD's with their view on it
Coreation
If by respect, you mean he's cooler than his predecessors, than we have a different understanding of respect
madroxide86
If he's against contraception, that's his view, there isn't anything wrong with it. It doesn't make him a bad person. Responsible parenting
VibratingNipples
since when does the Pope ride in a armorless car?
blurb
This Pope is one of the best we've had in history. No one wants to harm a man of integrity like that.
CantComeUpWithACreativeUsername
This new pope scaled down expenses. He drives himself around too, sometimes 1/2
CantComeUpWithACreativeUsername
2/2 https://www.pri.org/stories/2013-09-11/pope-francis-drives-himself-around-vatican-used-renault-4
ObiWanShalomi
Damnn that niqqa a str8 G !!
CantComeUpWithACreativeUsername
Awesome username!
ObiWanShalomi
Ohh shitt *doesn't know how to act* Thank youuu!!! Especially from a person with your username :)
Winndypops
It usually just matters where he is and how much danger he could be in, although I do think the Pope Mobile looks awesome.
CallMeCayde
marslew
That's adorable
ArcanianWarrior
I love how nobody has downvoted this
Turoxy
Oh yeah?! /downvotes
bishcraft
Make it dickbutt
YourFriendlyNeighborhoodWizard
"Pope Francis, as he sacrifices himself to bring clean water to the wasteland" (2277 Colorized)
QuantumSupersexposition
Ilikeworkingforabankbecauseigetgoodconditions
IDontKnowHowToHuman
serious question: is this real? Or is it one of those cleverly made video edits from a Conan bit?
Litcube
Oh!
Cuntmuncher3000
He's a culinary enthusiast. Don't judge him.
RetardedLobster
At least eating boogers is not a sin.
IDontKnowHowToHuman
(2) I mean like this sort of thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KFj6b1Xfe8
KNDBS
Why does the window has a radiation sign?
iamwang
He's drawing a mushroom cloud
bassnotbombs
I'm pretty sure that's a fidget spinner
ASongOfPissAndFarts
Because love is toxic.
GrumpyOldManWhatSignedUpToCommentThis
"Baby don't hurt me, no more!"
MyUsernameNeverChecksOut
Because the pope is pretty rad, dude.
RyanGiggs11
*have
professsionalsnootbooper
Fallout Pope
ringox
Because he likes Biohazard, Fuck The Rules
CeruleanSky1988
Pope radiation
UmpaTheLumpa
'Cuz he's rad
KartallOS
Popes are made of Holium 234 which has a half life of 75.000 years. Which is pretty radioactive Not like bishops that are made of (1/2)
KartallOS
Holium 235 700 million years that are used for crusading cities like Hiroshistan and Nagastan. Ther is even Holium 238 wich is used for (2/3
KartallOS
Normal church fathers, they are really low holyness. That is why they are used to contact general public without baptising them instanly.
Zreen
Because popes have a half-life of 5 million years, every second they emit 12 parts per milliliter of lethal Baptism.
WaffleCopters
Does the Queen have a longer half-life?
IDontKnowHowToHuman
She hasn't even cycled through her first half life since creation yet.
amyrose
IloveHockey
Its an airhole.
MyDragonHeartedSpirit
You're an airhole. I'm sorry, that was out of line.
IDontKnowHowToHuman
DUDE YOU'RE GIVING ME A HERNIA
TheMostAggresivePersonYouWillEverMeet
Dude
thegrimreaver
He's not your dude, man.
IloveHockey
Ouch.
Guill
Can someone trace the outline of the heart? In neon
itellyouhwhatthatboyaintright
His outline does not make your traditional heart lol
VodkaReindeer
You see he's moving forward so it doesn't stay in shape.
Yay295
http://imgur.com/T5G2qCn
YouMayFindThisMildlyInteresting
3/10
CallMeCayde
Take my upvote
Markismyname
30 popes/10
BiggerThanYrMom
So those were titties and he caught himself just in time.
Thingamajiggly
5/7
nigelandco
This pope almost makes me want to convert to catholicism
yupiyei
From?
muscarinenya
That's the point it's called public relations.
ajizzle
don't it still sucks
sassybeckalicious
More importantly he is jesuit. Everything catholisism should be. Education, giving, respect.
DrArbitrary
If anyone tells you the Catholic church is full of hypocrites, don't listen. They're not full.
frowningwithhappiness
Touché!
bulbosos
ummm trust me, you don't
raidleadergutts
Until you learn that he condones & supports pedophilia. Then you come back to your senses.
ilovecake
If you're okay with Catholic guilt and all that fun stuff, go for it. Be warned: the guilt is real.
plainoldfool
Why? Seriously, I'm Catholic and it ain't *that* great.
Br0wnDant3
*Almost
polishbroadcast
That's the idea. They are trying to undo 2 generations of bad ideas met with declining membership—fastest of any religion.
KNDBS
Come join us...we have wine
Robvp
It's allright, you can sin all you want as long as you repent and confess.
KNDBS
Seems you never heard of catholic guilt
easybrz
Not really if you repent it means you're actually sorry and you'll do everything in your power not to sin again. If you sin with the 1/2
easybrz
Intent of repenting then it's definitely not sincere. 2/2
DisneyMoreDisney
In fact doing that is a sin in itself and invalidates the confession
IKnowAllTheLyricsToTheSimpsonsThemeSong
Pope for president 2020.... wait..
swedeonamoose
nonononono last time we let religion screw to much with politics we ended up with a 30 years war.
MisterOp
make the holy roman empire great again i guess
spookhook
themanthemyththebellend
I'm an atheist but if I were a religious man I'd go Catholic for Francis.
GrumpyOldManWhatSignedUpToCommentThis
Join the church of the not-so-invisible PinkFlyingUnicorn! https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91W1R-jd3SL._SL1500_.jpg 4 cake!
GrumpyOldManWhatSignedUpToCommentThis
I always feel so old when none of those kids that watch that silly show get that reference :[
mediocrejoker
Why not Quaker? :)
veryfreakingbored
Come over. Join us. We got holy wafers.
Strongharbour432
And Catholic guilt
NotALager
Is no one going to mention wine? Come on now
nigelandco
Idk if you want me, I'm a filthy lutheran.
veryfreakingbored
It's cool. May the force be with you.
DeviljhoKiller
And with your spirit.
tossitall
Best response possible.
nigelandco
blainetog
Oh, so Catholic Lite. ;)
itmondsply
I was Lutheran before I converted... I'm actually practicing Christianity now
BubsPeps
When you get good at it let me know!
itmondsply
The day I claim to be good at it will be the day I know that I have a LONG way to go.
DeputyChiefJudgeFish
So long as you aren't Lex Lutheran.
ballsohard2202
You guys are basically Catholic. Like the favorite 1st cousin
frowningwithhappiness
My husband is Lutheran and I'm Catholic. It's pretty much the same except he gets shot glasses of wine and I get to drink as much as I want.
autumnrainxiii
Or as I like to call them, the Crouton of Christ. It's my favorite part of church.
ValhallaBackYall
Hate to break it to y'all but the kid is still disabled.
fluhatinrapper
Child prayed for Gods healing. God answered. "No"
GrumpyOldManWhatSignedUpToCommentThis
shoulda sacrificed something of more value than a silly goblin.
yourewastingyourlife
ballsohard2202
fluhatinrapper
Made me laugh
CantComeUpWithACreativeUsername
Don't think they expected him to be healed... just blessed or "helped". Catholics aren't big into "faith healers" (cures for cash)
seuratparrot
I don't know if you know this, but keeping a disabled kid chugging along isn't for the kid. He's just ground zero.
ArchieWizard
I agree, and personally I fully support euthanasia for those who are completely completely fucked like this.
2074red2074
You don't know how much brain function some of these kids have. If you saw Dr. Hawking without his computer, you'd think he was fucked too.
ArchieWizard
That's really cute, and sweet, and idealistic, but you could not be more wrong. Some of these people are completely invalid, no thoughts at
2074red2074
Right, some. Not all. You want to risk killing someone who's just trapped in their body?
ArchieWizard
all in their heads, they just operate on pure instinct, shitty diapers, and drooling.
ItsJeremiasDrake
Yeah, but you can see how much it means to the family so it still full filled a purpose.
ahazuarus
just not the intended one, unfortunately.
DisneyMoreDisney
I don't think the Pope intended on healing his disability...
schlummi
Plus he acts as a role model.
Kelroth127
That kid needs more of a roll model. I'm going to hell.
schlummi
Role models for people which could help/work with disabled people. It's a symbol: "we the society welcome disabled" represented by the pope.
solomonbishop
Still doesn't help the kid. Doesn't fulfill any real purpose, just makes the kids family "feel better". The family. Kid's still disabled.
2074red2074
Telling the family that you hope for the kid to get better or at least have a happy life helps a lot, even if both parties are atheist.
ErnesImaginationPrince
Yeah but, point of life is to feel good and make other people feel good really
ItsJeremiasDrake
Making people feel better is a real purpose if you ask me but you can have a other opinion.
ItsJeremiasDrake
Making people feel better is a real purpose if you ask me but you can have a other opinion.
tryall
I'm not a religious man, but with all the messed up religious leaders around the world, this makes me happy. He actually tries to help.
superanth
He's really awesome. Somehow they found the Captain America of popes to elect.
loveisallwereallyhave
I'm not religious. Pope is solid Pope. Pope popes hard, yo.
OkButWhyWereTheyFilming
Agree, have an upvote from me. Also, why is there not an upvote gif of someone taking communion?
DidItForScience
Hardcore conservatives hate him!
juffowup00
Bullshit
CryMoreDieMore
He gives people one of the most important things of all; Hope.
imgCitizenZero
As Christians, it's what we're all supposed to be doing.
IFindYourLackOfACreativeUsernameDisturbing
Same here. Provides a good example to lead by and is a good role model.
dgtalchal
I was born Catholic but decided to be atheist, and I love the Pope.
SmokiestLemming
I remember reading in his early days as the pope he would sneak out wearing his old priests clothes and volunteer nearby the Vatican
SmokiestLemming
Wasn't quite right but still good https://www.rt.com/news/pope-francis-disguise-homeless-rome-670/
PunteDai
The day when even atheists look up to a religious leader - is a good day
thomasthetankimgurine
Not religious either, but every time the Pope has said something I've just agreed with him most of the time. Guy is genuine.
AMigratingCoconut
I think a lot of the top leaders for major religions are genuinely good people. It's just leaders who are religious that are annoying 1/2
AMigratingCoconut
See: The Dalai Lama, Thich Nhat Hanh, help I'm actually out of names those 3 were all I knew off hand, etc
btssam
I suppose, but a prayer does not actually help
Janeator
"help". But yeah.
Skromulator
I'm not religious but I'm a big fan of the man. He seems like a genuinely good person.
karanperson
I am sure he is steps away from saying God don't exist and just be nice to each other
TheGreatBlueHeron
I was worried about him. The last pope I liked died after only 33 days. He was warm and kind, and some in the Vatican didn't like him.
GoChaca
He is a Jesuit, a more liberal group known for charity and being liberal with the word of the lord. They are the best!
EdNigma1134
mtbelley
So he is the Brope?
AnthonyGe
Not only that, but look at the car he's going around in.
kmikl
He's not perfect, but he's better than most.
GrumpyOldManWhatSignedUpToCommentThis
"Yooou're not peeeerfect, Francis." http://k46.kn3.net/taringa/0/B/9/0/9/A/MPucheta/75E.jpg
twentyfourcharacterslong
How is he helping?
theNameChecker
They just repainted their puppet
serpentgawd
exactly, I am "against"/don't like all organised religions but this man puts a smile on my face every now and then
Neptuner82
I was raised Catholic and I'm not religious anymore but this man gives me hope. His humility is amazing and combats one of the largest p 1/?
Neptuner82
Problems in the Catholic church. Most of the more recent popes before him wore extremely fancy clothing and adorned their quarters and 2/?
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Neptuner82
You dont really see it and they don't explicitly state it because it's tradition for the head of the church to be finely taken care of. 1/2
Neptuner82
Just take a look at St. Peters Basilica and the numerous Cathedrals around the earth and at John Paul's red shoes. Francis got rid of them.
rubmymanclit
*most popes throughout history
Neptuner82
Lived expensive lifestyles but this guy got rid of all of it. He sets an awesome example.
Lukaznid
So basically almost protestant, just better in that he isn't so cold.
quid81
Like a....high sparrow?
SickBound
According to him, dogs can go to heaven; so I love him.
GrumpyOldManWhatSignedUpToCommentThis
Even Carface?
SickBound
Well...obviously not ALL dogs go to heaven ;)
IDontKnowHowToHuman
But... the movie title said they do!
tiredoftrying
im a muslim and i like the pope believe it or not
CompelledCynic
I'm not a religous man but I respect Pope Francis simply because he practices what he preaches.
CephalopodLodge4
No he doesn't?
namiasdf
He is using his influence to move the heavily conservative church into the modern age. It will die if it doesn't evolve.
Pip314
He used to sneak out and go help feed the homeless
flyingmonsters
Pope Pius XII did that too during WW2 to smuggle in Jews
GrumpyOldManWhatSignedUpToCommentThis
Eh, it breaks even.
flyingmonsters
What do you mean?
SeanJohnBobbyWTF
Sproutbeans
I'm not a religious man, but if you're out there somewhere, please come save me, Superman.
IDontKnowHowToHuman
"Everybody gets one." -- Spiderman
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AngryRaven
Already the largest charity in the world, and the largest nongovernmental healthcare provider in the world, and the pope is funding it more
TheyHunger
The church is the single largest giver of charity on the planet, sooo.... They kinda already are.
SmokiestLemming
There was a cardinal in Germany called the "Bishop of Bling" francis turned it into a home for the homeless
flyingmonsters
Yeah its funny how people forget the pope does stuff like that
itmondsply
Are you kidding me?
TheMortiestMortyfromC137
No
RobertNAdams
He may be a bit brash, but he isn't wrong, either. Vatican got more stacks than the Library of Congress.
lizardbones
And Francis is already donating most of it
flyingmonsters
He isnt donating it all. There are things like Peters Pence and the money that goes to the Vatican museums gets donated
flyingmonsters
You do realize though it is a state and has workers that need to be paid, upkeep of buildings, plus overall financial security?
flyingmonsters
Honestly i see nothing wrong with them having money.
RobertNAdams
(1) Yep. They also have vaults filled with priceless artifacts & art that basically no one can see that any museum would pay a ton to get.
RobertNAdams
(2/2) And a metric-ton of money & assets that aren't exactly used for helping the poor insomuch as accruing interest. Not very Jesus like.
TheFrenchGirl
He already did. Try to get information before accusing.
WumboPower
Kind of makes me worried about someone trying to kill him because he gets so close to people. Security detail is probably ridonculous tho.
TwoVhsCopiesOfGoodfellas
He dresses up in regular church clothes and goes to feed the poor at night. Truly showing how Catholics are supposed to act.
canche97
He is a jesuit. A group of Catholics who will help anyone they can. He is the first jesuit pope and really does care for everyone
hjf2011
He's being criticized in Argentina right now. He's very critic of the current government but he's been very quiet about Venezuela.
Werkin
I feel the same. This guy Blesses!! But really, this guy does it right.
dopperpod
Yeah, I'm sure the kid will heal tomorrow.
Camelspotting
People have other types of pain than physical.
dopperpod
I'm sure god appreciates you setting the bar so low for him. Now he can take credit next time the kid finds a penny on the sidewalk.
Error404TrollNotFound
Just because you're disabled doesn't mean you're in pain
Camelspotting
What I'm getting at is that everyone has some emotional issues and reassurance by someone you look up to goes a long way.
Error404TrollNotFound
I wouldn't say everyone has an emotional issue, there are plenty of happy people in the world
Millsslslsls
Many people view blessings/prayers/hopes as effective treatments, many people disagree with many people.
Selerox
Regardless of faith, it comes down to the fact that Pope Francis is fundamentally a good man.
BiggerThanYrMom
Agreed.
Dreigiau
As an Athe-agnostic who believes religion does more harm than good, Pope Francis is definitely in my top 10 people in the world
raidleadergutts
Until you learn that he defends pedophiles. Then his PR bullshit might give way to rational thought.
BlackElkSpeaks
I knew a man who had a similar attitude, he said that all pedophiles should be dragged into a pit and shot in the head. 1
BlackElkSpeaks
This was during a dinner that I had invited my skitzophrenic cousin to.. who had claimed to be a pedophile despite there being no actual (2)
BlackElkSpeaks
Evidence to support him being so. That said, I asked him if he thought the same thing about people with mental illnesses who were thought (3
MacaArena
I think he actually has a pretty good PR team. Been seeing him everywhere with a lot of positive comments, somewhat suspicious..
raidleadergutts
He defends pedophiles in the church. Anyone mentioning this gets downvoted by morons who have fallen for his PR campaign.
SirBrendan
It's not a conspiracy. He's the fucking pope. He is the moral leader of the single largest faith on the planet.
MacaArena
Yes and all the popes have had this good press always
dbrsong
3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellionoccurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, 1/
dbrsong
the man doomed to destruction.4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets 2/
dbrsong
himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God. 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4. I know I'll be down voted, but I was once an atheist 3/
dbrsong
And I have now studied the Bible and it's all in there. Everything that has happened and is going to happen. It all adds up in the Bible. 4/
dbrsong
I couldn't begin to get into the eye opening realizations I've come to, here in such a limited text space. But for me Catholicism is evils5/
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DeviljhoKiller
The Pope most certainly does not condone or hide child rape and the Church opposes both contraceptives and premarital sex.
Magicmat
Millions have died needlessly of aids in Africa due to the previous popes declaration that "aids is bad but condoms are worse"!
SirBrendan
Yes, you can lay this sin on both Benedict and John Paul, but Francis clearly sanction condoms. Don't put that shit on him
2074red2074
They say that premarital sex is bad too. That is to say you shouldn't use a condom and shouldn't have sex with more than one person anyway.
Magicmat
I would consider moving around pedophiles to intentionally obstruct police investigations is tantamount to condoning (at the very least).
2074red2074
Good thing they don't do that, and haven't since like the 70s
raidleadergutts
Yes he does you ignorant fuck! You must be REALLY fucked in the head to defend pedophilia. Unfuck yourself ASAP.
BewareTheCrocigator
No more internet for you today.
2074red2074
You're the ignorant fuck. They stopped hiding the pedophiles years ago and now cooperate fully with local police.
Skizzlesnap
Does more than try. He DOES help. I don't believe in God but this guy is the real deal. Best Pope in my lifetime.
SuperCalculatorChalmers
He should definitely get a person of the decade award or something like that, if it exists
jezzey
He really is a bright light against the dark light of religious extremists. Not just a symbol of his religion, but a good person.
missdebonair0328
John Paul was a great Pope as well. Current Pope reminds me of him
Tellegaard
It seems stupid to many, but imagine what it does for people who truly believe. If there has to be religion,this is what it should look like
publicprofile
Now if only we can get a better president in America.. But I totally agree. I don't believe in god but I believe in this man.
Relativitys
Though that is admittedly a pretty low bar of achievement.
thekiller0673
Substitute the noation of god with the highest atainible good you are capable of. It enlightened me about religion
Tyleruption
How do you define goodness without the help of religion?
GrumpyOldManWhatSignedUpToCommentThis
Rosebud frozen peas.
BlackElkSpeaks
Notion * attainable * ..Just here to try to enlighten just a little bit more :)
thekiller0673
The more you know, English is not my fist language. Do you by any chance know German or Dutch ??? I am trying to learn one of them :D
Ansatsunin
Dutch here. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT SHIT, IT'S TERRIBLE TO LEARN FOR NON-DUTCH PEEPS!
BlackElkSpeaks
No, I only know some French, Hindi, and am currently learning Korean here in South Kor (8
theshrektacularshrek
Way better the fucking Pope Gregory. He thought cats were satanic and ordered them to be killed. Without cats, plague rats bred 1/2
GrumpyOldManWhatSignedUpToCommentThis
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/02/24/after-8-centuries-rats-exonerated-in-spread-of-black-death-gerbils-implicated/
GrumpyOldManWhatSignedUpToCommentThis
Wowzers, 140 exactly. Talk about cutting it close!
BlackElkSpeaks
Haha.. he really had no clue why cats were given god-status in ancient Egypt I guess.
icanmakeayomamajokeoutofanything
You're really comparing him to a Pope from 1400 years ago?
toxcrusadr
Dude people at that time thought disease was from foul air or a small colony of dwarves living in your stomach. Give it a rest.
theshrektacularshrek
True. Today is a much nicer time to be alive
IDontKnowHowToHuman
They also thought the cure for all ailments was to drain the blood from your body.
toxcrusadr
"NOTHING A GOOD BLEEDING WON'T CURE!" - Theodoric of York
theshrektacularshrek
Like crazy and almost the entirety of the Vatican City was infected and killed. Fuck you, Pope Gregory.
SecondSince
Well, to me it seems that mess took care of itself. One might call it divine intervention even. ;)
IAmAManofConstantSorrow
Classic Greg
Ansatsunin
"This is not the Old Greg you're looking for".
yourCleverUsernameSuck
Buckbeak1486
Why is the Pope in a radiation chamber?
tryall
I'm sorry if I chose poor words. He goes out of his way to help people, and has declined many of the privileges offered to him. A good man.
toxcrusadr
Not poor words at all. As a believer, thanks both to you and @Skizzlesnap.
toxcrusadr
We're right proud of him too. And the fact he was elected in the first place. There is hope.
FuzzyducklingSaysWhat
Exactly how I feel. Right words.
twentyfourcharacterslong
How does he help people?
GrumpyOldManWhatSignedUpToCommentThis
He does plain jane charity work as well here and there. Seems to be annoyed by how the church became an aloof pseudo-royalty
IDONTKNOWWHATWEREYELLINGABOUTLOUDNOISES
What is with the downvotes? Ha!
mrShaver
Still provides a sanctuary for pedophiles.
mrShaver
I love these downvotes for talking bad about a fool who dresses like a wizard and claims to talk to god.. so he's somehow better than us.
BlackElkSpeaks
Just out of curiosity.. what have you done in your life that warrants even the slightest notoriety?
mrShaver
Nothing.
ISpeakMyMind
Source?
mrShaver
https://apnews.com/64e1fc2312764a24bf1b2d6ec3bf4caf/pope-quietly-trims-sanctions-sex-abusers-seeking-mercy
BlackElkSpeaks
1. He's proving that he's an exemplar of one of these hardest teachings in the Bible -- to love your enemies(Luke 6:27-36)
BlackElkSpeaks
2. "If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them".
BlackElkSpeaks
3. "But love your enemies, do good to them" "Be merciful just as your father is merciful".
2074red2074
He doesn't push for them to be pardoned. He just states that the Church doesn't hate them and will forgive them if they repent.
mrShaver
He's reduced sanctions against these monsters & lets them back in the church. They should never be allowed to be presists doing that shit.
2074red2074
Actually no, he does not allow them to work with the public anymore. They can still work for internal affairs in the church.
Ansatsunin
Friendly reminder that the problem isn't paedo's, but sex offenders. The two are different. Paedo's often feel guilt, shame and disgust 1/?
Ansatsunin
for themselves - that's why he's forgiving towards them, and understanding. 2/2
hylikus
Were you alive before 2005? Cause John Paul II takes that title in my book. Francis is awesome too though!
publicprofile
I was 10 years old
Skizzlesnap
He was ok but still had that untouchable vibe. Bullet proof cars and living in excess. Frank still gets my vote.
sulfuratus
To be fair, he survived two assassination attempts. He had all the right to stay behind bulletproof glass.
BaronSpaghetti
PJ II was a nice fellow but there was still far more complaining about abortion than financial inequality.
hylikus
Yeah he wasn't perfect. But to be fair the church's stance as a whole has evolved a lot since then. Not a leap to think his might have too.
Skizzlesnap
I credit him with being the reason for the evolution.
ThatOneGuyPablo
I was too young to remember much about him but current pope is a badass
jt45fan
Their both better than Darth Sidious in between them.
PeterTurboIronCage
He was strong on the injustices of communism, but less so on the injustices of capitalism. Francis is the right pope for our times.
IDontKnowHowToHuman
I say Francis is the right pope for ALL times!
hylikus
Agreed!
sulfuratus
I don't think you can really compare the two very well. JP had a very political orientation and played an important role in the demise 1/2
sulfuratus
of the Eastern Bloc, while Francis' focus is more on social problems. 2/2
hylikus
Good points :)
1metalnation
I like JP II, but he's stance on gays, abortions, child molesters, and how much money he used for personal shit makes me grump with him
IAmTheKingOfCheese
Also his stance on condoms really bothered me. Actively encourages the spread of aids
CaptainLamprey
"Grump with him". <3
baylan295
I think JPII fell victim to an institution lagging far behind in the times. I imagine his views would be different in today's church.
hylikus
Agreed.
BlakeTortilla
For his time he was still very progressive
1metalnation
That's absolutely true
WhimsicalNarwhal
This dude says the Big Bang theory is real, evolution is real, and "god isn't a magician with a magic wand" I like this guy
AGuyFromHawaii
Mendel (a monk) proved inherited genetics & natural selection and a physicist monk theorized the Big Bang. All are Catholic dogma.
OhMyGurs
For a hot minute I thought we were talking about the show.
applesforjuice
That show should never be discussed. Or ever have existed.
TheIrish0ne
I hate the Big Bang theory, awful, awful show.
Xplode441
That's been the Catholic stance for a while though.
misterincroyable
As a Muslim, much of what is depicted in the Quran clearly states the truth behind the Big Bang and much of evolution.rel not against sci
misterincroyable
Indeed many who claim to be religious are crusading against science but this is straight bullshit
jewsruntheworld
Better than a diddling pope
dhulqarnayn
Science is real simply because God made the universe, the rules of physics (some of which we understand), and all scientific principles
NotTodayNotYesterday
He has a master's degree in chemistry, as well, I believe. Maybe, now Imgur will consider some believe in both science and religion.
blacksteve
As a catholic, what Pope Francis is doing for our PR is SO GREAT, and also so needed. The church can't help if people reject it out of hand.
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bunhilda
Baby steps. Being pope is a political role almost as much as (or possibly more so) than being a religious role
dyc3r
Most sensible Catholics would believe in evolution given our current knowledge of the universe.
Leithoa
Even the unsensible ones should, it's been a supported idea by the church since at least the 1950's arguably since Mendel.
dyc3r
The church only says we have to believe that God was involved. I see that as "he lit the biggest firework ever"
DMGuy
Well to be fair we all knew The Big Bang Theory is real, it's just that some of us think it's a terrible show.
baneofbelial
*laugh track*
eetsumkaus
*lame joke with even lamer delivery*
IDontKnowHowToHuman
*Me laughing my ass off like a howler monkey at least once every episode from a joke that hit my funny bone like a meteor*
eetsumkaus
well that's an appropriate username
Hybris51129
So many people get pissed when I say that science is simply god's source code.
IDontKnowHowToHuman
Slightly different wording, but otherwise that's EXACTLY what I've always said! Science is the methods/tools God uses to run the universe.
dyc3r
And The doc is filled with jargon that takes lifetimes to understand.
GrumpyOldManWhatSignedUpToCommentThis
Christ++
Lamplord
Im Agnostic currently but growing up I always wondered why God =/= Evolution. Why cant God have just pushed the little amoeba in such a 1/2
WhimsicalNarwhal
I'm atheist but I'm all for that, I have no issues with religion up until it becomes harmful.
Lamplord
Way as to start evolution.
exponant
Evolution appears to be the mechanism of God's living creation.
dhulqarnayn
I consider Muslims and Catholics to be very involved in science historically, and surely others as well. People that make blanket 1
dhulqarnayn
statements about religion and science have a very skewed and oversimplified view of history 2
Leithoa
It's people who take the bible (or qur'an) as a literal history book that spout anti-science stuff. Creation myth's are the root cause.
dhulqarnayn
There's a lot of interesting tidbits in the Qur'an that are interesting from a scientific point of view. Islam never stifled scientific 1
dhulqarnayn
discovery in the better times when Muslims were making them, of course owing much to the early scientists of the Classical Era 2
Leithoa
By all means, cite the surah or hadith you think supports this. Every one I've seen as 'proof' involves a lot of twisting of the words. >
Leithoa
If you think you've got the one true reading & you're a productive member of society who am I to change your interpretation but anything
Leithoa
2)resembling coherent science is lacking from every holy text.
ropewarrior
In the Catholic Church there is no contradiction b/t faith and science!
raidleadergutts
Except for the whole existence of god, heaven & hell.
jmrex
Minor caveats.
ropewarrior
Those aren't scientific subjects
GrumpyOldManWhatSignedUpToCommentThis
some of my favourite articles are when they're approached that way though, like the temperatures of each!
OGTubix
If they exist or one claims so they are a scientific subject. If they're a product of our imagination they're a subject of e.g. psychology
OGTubix
or just study of cultural development etc. They are not outside scientific study either way and thus are scientific subjects
Sm9yCg
Only some fucked up US-American sects have a problem with science.
ropewarrior
Well I mean some Catholics and other Christians do...but the Catholic Church itself does not
LehdaRi
When head of a religion is more sane than 99% of the politicians it's time to start questioning something.
Leithoa
The pope is as much a politician as any other head of state. Not that I don't think he's right about evolution.
GrumpyOldManWhatSignedUpToCommentThis
That Raelian guy has been more sane than them since his church started!
Tyrfingur
Interestingly enough, Science does deal with God. At all. It only deals with the natural and observable world.
TangledMess
So does he believe in the diety god?
TangledMess
Genuine question. No need to down vote. Put ye claws away
xiucutil
Yes, he is very orthodox in his religious beliefs in the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
kayakninjas
You're going to have to clarify that one. I'm pretty sure God is a deity by definition. He believes in an active god, if that helps.
TangledMess
Ah I always thought a diety god created everything then just kicked back. That answer does help though thanks!
kayakninjas
I believe what you're thinking of is the Deists. Deity just means god, but they call themselves that to throw people off, or something.
raidleadergutts
Lol why do you keep spelling it "diety"? Is god a nutritionist in your mind?
TangledMess
Because I'm in work, rushing, am actually currently on a diet (subconscious, ooo) and my autocorrect comes up with that first
Leithoa
The Abrahamic god does advise against eating pork & shellfish, so, maybe? Other gods are more stringent.
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Waaahmbulance
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WhimsicalNarwhal
TheSimpleDude
Cheesesaveslives
Oh my god
SeanTheEngineer
ZINNNNGGG!
Mockingbirb
dannoll
I have a hard time believing the pope believes in the Big Bang theory.
GrumpyOldManWhatSignedUpToCommentThis
He probably got that channel before he was told it was shit. Poor guy.
dyc3r
Nothing within the Catholic church definitively disproves it or denies it. We are taught to view God as the "first cause" so, basically
dyc3r
When the big bang happened, God lit the fuse.
acidandfreaky
they haven't apologized and admitted that torturing and burning people alive was wrong, how good can the head of such organization be?
randi
Actually, they have. It was major news in 2000. https://mobile.nytimes.com/2000/03/13/world/pope-asks-forgiveness-for-errors-of-the-church-o
ironwolf6896
That was centuries ago, do you also think modern people should apologize for slavery and the holocaust?
acidandfreaky
i love your reply ahahah
CitizenDickbag
The death and misery the Catholic Church has caused in Africa is ongoing, not something centuries ago.
CitizenDickbag
Oh, people have their heads up their asses regarding the Church and it's responsibility for the spreading of AIDS in Africa I see.
TigerWalt
Big Bang was originally postulated by a catholic priest/monk, so not terribly surprising
pantsinabucket
A lot of Christians believe in the Big Bang. A priest invented that concept to illustrate how god could create the universe so fast.
HeatLegend
It's not really contemporary to the catholic church today though
arrbos
An early objection to the BB over a steady-state model is precisely that it involves an initial 'creation' event. It's still not certain.
arrbos
The model agrees well with observations, but there's still a number of untested assumptions to the "big bang" theory, like early inflation.
Millsslslsls
even before the theory of the big bang we knew there were two options, the universe is eternal, or it is not eternal and had an origin. >
Millsslslsls
Then some jerk finds evidence for the non-eternal and 1/2 the philosophers went, "SEE!! I FUKCKIN KNEW IT ALL ALONG!"
isometimeseat
Saying that is like saying that the first guy to say that shouting is a good way of talking over long distances postulated radio
DeviljhoKiller
No, saying that is like saying the first guy to think of a radio thought of radio. Even if he didn't build and patent it.
TriggerWarning
How does that make it any less surprising?
aletheianalex
Yup, and Darwin's theory itself owes its heritage to religious thinkers: from Aquinas into Kant's theory of descent, through Lamarck, etc.
noctynight
Sauce?
Voidkom
sauce is ten seconds on google
Kelroth127
Look up Georges Lemaitre.
TheShadowsLengthen
He was a priest that was a mathematician/physicist on the side. I think his theory was more motivated by calculation than just theology.
Althekingsmen1
well he didn't let too literal a theology stop him either so he does have that going for him
TotemicFroggy
Giordano Bruno?
applesforjuice
I mean. The first thing the bible talks about is pretty much exactly the big bang. Just saying.
TheShadowsLengthen
I must disagree. While no physicist myself I looked up the big bang thoroughly. It is nothing like the Bible's Creation.
applesforjuice
Okay... please go into more detail. I currently don't believe you.
LilMaGoo
Sauce?
plainoldfool
I don't have sauce but I did here he has something similar to a Masters in Chemistry or some other lab science.
TheShadowsLengthen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Lema%C3%AEtre
Andolomar
The Catholic church is and always has been the largest patron of scientific research and discovery.
FlamboyantTitans
That's because it's boring as fuck to be a monk.
aromaticfable
We got genetics research from Mendel deciding to fuck around with his pea plants to amuse himself.
FlamboyantTitans
lol that's exactly what I was thinking about. Also the guy who isolated phosphorus from vats of urine. Who wasn't a monk but still cool.
LordStarkillerHimself
Yup thanks to a few pea plants and one monk we can understand phenotypes and genotypes
Millsslslsls
tbf, a lot of early science was done by someone fucking around with their hobby.
Bridgeru
And that's why some of the best beer brewed in the world is brewed by monks.
TuityFrooty
As a fellow Christian, there's no aspect of science that I disagree with for religious reasons. God is not incompatible with science.
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ScarletMegaGay
Obviously misunderstood, I'm saying this as in I agree with this statement.
Brickthedummydog
I think we'll use science to find God in the minutes before the Big Bang happened. Something doesn't come from nothing
dannoll
As another fellow Christian I agree with you. Evolution is undeniable. But the Big Bang theory is a joke
Sloppydrunkcatlady
Why? As a Christian why is it not plausible that God used the Big Bang theory as a tool for creation?
ThermoNuke
I'm glad there are more people like me here. Sometimes it's lonely being a logical Christian on places like this.
thatusernameisregistered
There is actually a sci-fi book called Calculating God and the plot is we are visited by aliens who came to be about the same time as 1/2
thatusernameisregistered
humans. Except they are WAY more advanced than us because they accepted that there can be both science and religion and some kind of 2/3
thatusernameisregistered
higher power, whatever that may be instead of science always trying to disprove religion/God. It was actually a really interesting read.
IDontKnowHowToHuman
I like the sound of that
eetsumkaus
seeing as how religion from the start is supposed to explain what human knowledge can't, I'd say that's central to it
shiftingillusion
Albert Einstein also believed this. Religion and science are not mutually exclusive. Why not both? Who knows?
YiminRong
There are aspects of physics which are almost like a religion. For example, the quest for a simple set of laws unifying gravity with the 1/2
YiminRong
other forces. There's no reason why it should be simple or unified, but just a faith or desire, that the Universe is fundamentally elegant.
trasneoir
Eh. Both disciplines are working on work with incomplete/unproven models to describe reality, I suppose they have that much in common.
trasneoir
Theories are weighed on how many ways we've tried and failed to disprove them. Faiths tend to be explicitly hostile to this approach.
YiminRong
Other than accepting something is true based on faith, as opposed to observation. But I agree, I like how the Catholic Church is evolving.
Sloppydrunkcatlady
FUCKING THANK YOU I've been saying this for years!
jmrex
Translation: "I like the social aspects of religion but I have no core faith."
Sloppydrunkcatlady
.......what? No. Having faith doesn't mean I can't believe in evolution or the big bang theory.
jmrex
Respectfully, yes, it does. Faith is predicated on scripture, and scripture is inconsistent with science.
IDontKnowHowToHuman
ME TOO! I love when I encounter more people with this same belief, it doesn't happen often enough.
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Slydevil13
Well the average mass has a story(ies) from the bible, priest explains it, then makes a message from it on how to better your life
Wussgoodbruh
Is your thought process, but not everyone on the planet thinks like you do. We're all different and need different things. It's that simple.
theoriginalEitring
As a very STEM minded person I can respect the teachings and sense of purpose/hope religion provides, it's when the church/scripture is (1)
theoriginalEitring
Taken as straight facts that problems arise. There is room to believe in kindness and compassion in science, not necessarily the stories
MoepsDump
Most people do not get hope from science, especially not regarding the subject of a life after death. (Also it can't provide morals/ethics)
OmegaZen
You don't need religion to teach you proper moralsðics. Not to mention religion can be pretty questionable when it comes to that
Tyleruption
Where do you get morality and ethics without influence from religion?
StevieMcSteveface
My favourite theory is that Science is Gods Will in Action
IDontKnowHowToHuman
I say it as "God made the universe, and Science is the toolset with which he did so." and "Religion explains WHY, science explains HOW."
IShouldntJokeAboutThat
It is incompatible with scripture, however
GrimmClaw
You shouldn't joke about that.
AgeCo
Scripture is interpreted in many different ways or disregarded, that is what contributed to the reformation.
RalphH
Not a problem for catholics, since the bible is to be interpreted and not taken literally! (source: 10+ years of religion classes in school)
eetsumkaus
most mainstream denominations really. The only literalists are fundamentalist evangelicals who hate the idea of clergy disagreeing with them
itinerati
Examples?
ColoneISanders
I liken the scriptures to the game "Telephone", losing a lot of their intent/meaning through countless translations through generations.
jmrex
Same goes for religion, in general. Both are silly games.
Churlish1
We can literally go back to the original Hebrew, which was originated around the 10th century B.C (best approximation)
TopherTots
It's a mixed bag, the text is mostly certifiably accurate, interpretations vary though, as people try to cram it into their preconceptions.
51CorgisInABar
Much of scripture is incompatible with modern life, what's your point?
bitchhappens
Examples please
LavaSmoke101
The Earth being like 60000 years old or something like that?
Tyrfingur
Not in the Bible.
SleepyWalrus
If I remember correctly that was scholars adding together the age of people in the bible and got 6000 years, don't know more details sadly.
thekiller0673
I am not a religious but I used to talk out my ass about religion. Analyse biblical stories at a meta level. Then they will make sense.
thekiller0673
Might even go to a meta meta level. But go no further, we don't know what's down there, and you might get stuck in limbo.
CitizenDickbag
"Interpret it vaguely enough and you can make anything make sense!"
thekiller0673
Thats not what I'm saying. Vague and at a meta level is two different thing all together. Think "what dose this really mean"
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EnthusiasticPoopslut
scripture says God created the universe, not details on how he did it
ReasonableConservative
"And there was morning and there was evening." Details enough.
AgeCo
And in fact there was morning and evening, he was not wrong just don't know why he would word it that way
MisterOp
Much of scripture is just mistranslated stories written by flawed humans with their own agendas and etc.
MisterOp
well i guess it *all* was written by humans yes
jmrex
Did you mean ALL of scripture?
innocentflare
Southern Baptist Christian here. Duh. Mistranslation is inevitable. Flawed humans: Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Paul. Agenda: our salvation.
Coreation
All of it is written by humans, weren't even the most advanced bunch by far at that time. Logically revelation happened there.
Churlish1
Some fundamentalists believe it is "God Breathed" literally. It's a problem to get them to understand written scripture might be flawed.
jmrex
What else is there but written scripture?!?
blindedTrickster
I'd say it's a bigger problem when they assume that it's only good if it's flawless.
MexicanHandOff
That's the main reason I avoid any scripture. How are we not supposed to believe there's human influence in every page?
blindedTrickster
We don't have to believe that and still can get something good out of it. The bible doesn't have to be perfectly accurate to be beneficial.
innocentflare
Scriptures are not trying to say only God is the author. Humans clearly are. EX: John's gospel is him writing about his memory of Jesus.
Stolf
I like George Carlin's take on the 10 commandments
eetsumkaus
how can you be Christian and avoid Scripture...? like I get it, but you should at least try to see how Christianity comes from Scripture
ChameleonFacedGoon
No judgement, but you shouldn't let skepticism stop you from reading the bible. If you are Christian, then have faith.
keyonne
Live by Jesus' teachings not to be a cunt and ya'll be ok.
missleadinginiformation
*all
ReasonableConservative
All scripture is God-breathed, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, and instruction in righteousness.
ReasonableConservative
So that the man of God may be complete, fully equipped for every good work.
raidleadergutts
Yes he is, until he is proven. Unfuck your mental retardation please.
DiabolicPenguin
The thing is, God can't really be proven real or not
Sloppydrunkcatlady
Wow that's a great way to get people to listen to you. Using the same logic, you can't disprove God. Until you can either prove or disprove
Sloppydrunkcatlady
a diety or deities, it's plausible, however farfetched you may think it is. There was a time when the majority of people laughed at the idea
Sloppydrunkcatlady
of the earth not being the center of the universe, but technologies change and allow us to progress and understand more.