A historical day for women in Saudi Arabia

Sep 26, 2017 7:02 PM

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It has just been announced that the women in Saudi Arabia will be able to drive...

Source: Living in Saudi

They've put their toe in the 20th century, while the rest of them is in the 7th. They executed someone for being a witch just 5 years ago.

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I like how it's marked feminism. One of Hilary's biggest donors everybody. See the irony there.

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It's sad this is actually a thing... amazing that countries with such a high level of oppression still exist in our day and age. :/

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But only at night, in full hijab or they'll be stoned to death...but hey, it's a starting point.

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What are the stipulations? must be with a male? must be within specific curfews?

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Will be ALLOWED to drive - don't know if they are able ????

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Can you just do it or does your handler have to give you permission?

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There’s not a man in her passenger seat... 10 lashes

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Maybe next they will pass a law that says that her getting raped is not a crime she committed!!

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Soon

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Whaaaa?

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I didn't know how far down it would be, or if it would be in the "bad replies" but I knew I would find it here.

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Oh my god that is actually real isn't it? There are actual people of such stupidity who are still handed a driver's license aren't there?

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They are Iranian if I remember correctly from the last time this was posted and, unfortunately, had no fucks to give after the accident.

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They did selfies from the hospital

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One small step for women...I'd like to say that it isn't enough but at least it's a step in the right direction.

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What a beautiful country, its almost like a German concentration camp but still in use, nice to hear slaves are allowed to drive now

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I'd start with same rights but priorities I guess

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So progressive

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Another 150 years of this and they will be ready to be re-admitted into the humanity.

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Don't forget your blinker fluid.

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Great but what about not getting stoned to death

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Yea it still blows my fucking mind that there are countries out there that fucked up. Like damn, its just a car, why cant women drive them?

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Gotta be so ridiculously sexist that you have to take away every single right from them until they literally can't do anything

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I heard from somewhere that it's less a law that they can't drive, more that with how segregated the country is and there's no female (1/2)

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driving program set up? I'm not 100%, could be bullshit, just what I heard. I bestow the honor of fact checking to others (2/2)

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Lemme clear this up for you. Women can't drive, that is the law. Women that get caught are subject to beating. It is 2017, and this is real.

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What is with all the negativity in the comments? Progress doesn't happen overnight. This is a big step.

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its like giving a medal to a criminal for doing less crime - woman are supposed to be able to do this stuff its the norm not special

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Just to be clear, women in the US have been able to vote for less than a century. It's not like the rest of the world is some shining beacon

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of progress- they're one generation behind, and medals absolutely should be given for progress.

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And men still have virtually no chance of a fair divorce trial. Legal disadvantage happens for both genders, but S. Arabia is the worst one.

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There have been quite a number of saudis on Imgur being very proud about liberal and progressive Saudi Arabia - denying every negative fact.

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Also a bunch of people who for some reason think progress there is impossible, and insist that it will be reverted within months.

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Sure. But that doesn't diminish the fact that this is a commendable change. Hopefully an indication of more to come.

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To which I agree. I just mean I can somehow see why people are might be disappointed by news on SA. We've had several seemingly intelligent>

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posters here writing alot about their country, but denied everything regarding torture&execution. As if it didn't exist at all. Posting >

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sources from news and Amnesty were regarded as fake. Sources of arabian newspapers were ignored. Their response was to delete their post.

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We’ll see how long that lasts

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till the car blows up

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Iranian women have had the right to vote for almost as long as American women. What makes you think the laws move backwards?

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Their testimony is half of a mans

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There laws move backwards like their culture and religion.

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How presumptuous of you.

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I don't presume nuthin', tis history.

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Have you been? I've seen Syria go from walking down to the post office to make long distance calls to using Viber with the world.

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Once I honestly had a female Saudi Arabian classmate claim that not being able to drive was cultural and not oppression. Can anyone explain?

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If you were fed a piece of information from birth onwards, you wouldn't be able to distinguish it as truth or lie.

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She is rationalizing...

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Yeh there is some like that. They got brainwashed to justify their own opression, kinda like uncle toms

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I once spoke to a Saudi girl and she said she didn't mind it cuz it was easier b/c she didn't have to drive herself anywhere. (1/2)

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Described it as basically a free taxi everywhere, but obviously this is just 1 persons experience and doesn't speak for everyone

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The Saudis I've met have been students, usually from well off families and well funded. They DO get driven everywhere and enjoy it.

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But poorer people I'm sure are in a very different spot.

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The middle east is so last year. What do north korean bitches be up to?

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Having to forcefully serve that Phallic potato most of the time.

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What do they call Kim's glasses? The Supreme Readers.

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Starving, mostly.

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I'll bet there's hot chicks in NK and we just dont know about them...

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they even released a new car accessory for the new drivers: https://i.redd.it/glkpumd06aoz.jpg

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Evil is forcing people to do something they don't want or withholding rights cause they can get away with oppression. You can laugh at them

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Auto burka.

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calling out a nation for their mistreatment of people through the use of jokes is not what i'd call racist, but I enjoyed your GIF.

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It's not like people use their turn signals anyway. Global shortage of blinker fluid.

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That username tho

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geniuous. absolutely gionioeus.

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No need for blinker fluid if other cars can't see 'em.

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http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/02/justice/delaware-du-pont-rape-case/index.html you don't have rights if you're raped by rich guy.

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Hmm almost just like in the usa then. If you are rich jail is not for you!

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Wow, that's super fucked up. Kind of a weird response to the topic at hand but super fucked up nonetheless.

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Before I reqd can I get it on a scale of 1-10 on how fucked up it is

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A 9 or so.

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That's one step in the right direction. Now keep walking!

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I'm fine with this, assuming a man walks ten yards in front of the car with a flag.

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*Driving

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I can't believe we live in a fucking world where there are still places in the world the other half of the population can't drive. WTF.

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They literally just passed a law so they can do more than walk

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Make sure to watch out from poles though.

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They're like a marathon behind

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Or...driving

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Nah. They'll revert at some point. They have to. Allah demands it.

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A bunch of people who weren't allowed to drive who are about to start driving for the first time. This might get crazy.

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Most of them already know how to drive, they were just not allowed to.

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They're setting up a system for training and licensing. They won't just be given cars.

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Can't be worse than any of the male Saudi drivers (lived there for 2 years)

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They're not gonna just suddenly drive. They'll still have to learn and get licenses and stuff. They're just ALLOWED to now, which is awesome

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You means like kids who grow up to the age of being able to drive ?

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Have you ever driven by a high school right when they get let out, it fucking terrifying

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Yes but imagine if all the kids were set to the road at the same time in a giant torrent because they had been waiting a long time.

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Women "will be able to drive", not that the conglomerate of wife-beaters will let them immediately.

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yeah but imagine those kids being 30 - 40% of the nation instead of around 1-2 %

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Queen Elizabeth, who served in WWII, drove the Saudi King around in an off road jeep. He was terrified the whole ride pleading 4 his life.

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That explains alot.

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He probably wouldn't have been so scared if he weren't such an asshole through and through. Let that be a lesson.

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There have been several Saudi kings. Some of them were pretty decent. Which one are you referring to as the "asshole".

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Hell of a lady

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And I’m sure her foot hurt sometime, too

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Is that the reason why women weren't allowed to drive?

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good.

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It wasn't a jeep, it was a range rover.

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Cue jeep fans reminding us that Land Rover stole jeep's ip so fierce is essentially correct.

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I know. I couldn't fit Range Rover with the limited character count. Keep has less letters. My bad.

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Could have also been her landie.

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He said "offroad" that implied that it wasn't a jeep. /ducks

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Source?

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Soooouuuurrrrccceeee!

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seems legit

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Don't see where it says he was pleading for his life.

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.

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"Served".

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RIP Karma

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You leave Betty alone or I'll knock yer teeth out, swer on me mum

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She was an army mechanic and frontline ambulance driver. She fucking served.

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She was a truck-driver in England.

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She's a mechanic?

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honest question. wtf is a frontline ambulance driver. I'd think an ambulance being on the front line would be a huge target.

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I imagine it was more of a jeep with a plank on the front to lay patients on.

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An ambulance that transports wounded directly from the frontlines.

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there was and currently is supposed to be a treaty or pact that says do not attack civilians or medical locations. it doesnt get followed

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It's considered a war crime. Which is why they have those big none camoflagable red crosses on the trucks.

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very well but yeash.

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Frontline ambulance driver? Never realised the front line was in England.

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we didnt join the war when it was already in the Allies favour..

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are you stupid?

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You ARE aware people are capable of locomotion, yes? Even across the seas, on occasion?

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Except the queen was never deployed.

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She was an ambulance driver in Europe

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I googled it and could not find a substantial source to back up that claim.

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She was not - you do not let the heir the crown drive around near the front line lest they be captured.

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Here's hoping it won't be up to your male guardian if you can get a license.

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I'm sure they'll still have to be accompanied by a male relative.

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Exactly!

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NPR's report said they don't need permission or an escort.

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Ford can't be happy about that.

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Not familiar with the Ford Permission. How does it handle?

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Depends, it does really well if you don't ask too much of it

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This comment thread pleases me.

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I heard there was no law saying they cant drive but you needed a male guardian to go for the license which no traditional man would give.

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So they were technically allowed to drive but never could.

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No doubt the men will be paying for the lessons, so it'll depend if they want a chauffeur or not.

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It's not and the did not need a guardian in the car. Source, NPR

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Didn't they pass a law recently that their male guardian can't legally restrict them from going to school and more recently?

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Yes. But the problem with the Middle Eastern countries is they may pass a law for show, with no intention of enforcing it.

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Yeah. Both of these are due to economic decline from lower oil demand. More women are working, so their input to the economy is needed. >

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Funny how fundamentalist law tends to relax when it benefits the ruling party...

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LOOKING AT YOU, AMERICA.

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Slavery wasn't necessarily abolished because it benefited the ruling party. We even had a war about it. Sex trafficking though....

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I had mormon missionary neighbors around my boyfriend and I's age. They came by to give us cookies one day for a holiday -

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- We'd been meaning to get to know them and maybe be friends, but they refused to talk to me or be my friend unless i had a male with me..

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Here's hoping the "shakira police" won't still punish them in horrible ways.

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I have you an up doot bc your typo made me laugh.

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it wasn't a typo ;)

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Wakka wakka ey, this time for Arabia

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I'd rather take the stoning than listen to 'This time for Africa' one more fucking time

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lol

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Lmao i didnt know shakira performed in saudi arabia let alone had her own police force.

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Like her hips, we don't lie.

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Something something joke about an amazing ass

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now playing: these muslims don't lie by shakira ft. police

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There it is

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Sharia don't lie by shakira minaj

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Their punishment: whatever, to be carried out whenever

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clever bastard

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that guardianship system has been scrapped too. Saudi has taken a massive step in women rights and should be applauded

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That would be progress indeed.

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Wanna hear a joke? Women rights.

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Another joke? You.

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Only one of these jokes was funny

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In fairness, that article dates to April, not addressing today's changes.

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its still in the process of codification. keep in mind that even western countries didn't got all women rights in one law. it took decades

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Saudi Arabia is an autocracy and can move at whatever pace the King wants.

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the king rule is possible by its people. if king rocks the ship too quickly and too much then he'll loose people's favor.

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The guardian system has NOT been scrapped.

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it has. women in saudi can seek jobs, education and medical procedures without guardianship rules.

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https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/05/09/saudi-arabia-unofficial-guardianship-rules-banned, This is from May 2017. It’s still being evaluated...

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...but the article states most places still require male consent. If you have info on a more recent development, please share.

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As someone who works with Saudis, no it has not. Parts have been loosened, but it's very much in tact.

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saudis have removed guardian requirements for women seeking jobs, education and medical procedures. what's left very much intact?

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The edict didn't address any of those according to HRW. Women also need permission to travel abroad.

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its still under three months of reviewing before being finalized. lots of changes are possible before its made official

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It will be in effect within a year

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June. Supposedly

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Yeah, they need to learn first.

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Sarah said we'd get favorite folders

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Enough time to improve the 1/4

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Didn't women in rural areas, that had to help with farm work, already have this right?

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I'm really excited

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I'm happy for you this is not near perfect but it's a start

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"within a year", aka we announce it so the world thinks we made changes, but really we didn't change anything.

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No infrastructure yet. No women driving schools, no capable women yet, no place to issue licenses. It's a huge change, not just in name.

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For the first part, would it be feasible to just use existing driving schools? Or are they scared of touching?

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There's gonna be a huge influx of new drivers all at the same time. The ones there are will not be enough.

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Radicals will blame this on the Jews. Calling it now...

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v

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To be fair, what isn't?

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.. Coming from radicals, I'm not saying they're to blame for everything.

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Yup! We're the reason for everything

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Well, considering they blame the Jews and western civilization for everything, I wouldn't be surprised.

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Can you blame them? Hell, EVERYBODY blames western civilization and the Jews for EVERYTHING. They just wanna fit in.

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Listen you dumb fucks all my problems are because of jews. Maybe that's because I'm jewish, BUT STILL

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The joke is that I make my own problems please don't scream at me

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