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https://www.pilotonline.com/2025/11/20/virginia-beach-ice-threats/
FTA:
Thorpe claimed the brothers discussed ICE “kidnapping individuals” and that the brothers said “they needed to do something about it.” The complaint also alleges the brothers discussed hunting and weapons that could shoot through tactical vests. According to Thorpe, seated several booths away, Mark Bennett also allegedly spoke of a trip to Las Vegas. Thorpe claimed Mark Bennett said he was going there to meet with “likeminded individuals.”
Idk about y’all, but I have a crush on these 2 gents. This is the first time I’ve heard anyone talk about using their 2A rights to defend their community against masked gunmen kidnapping people, I can’t find fault in that.
FermentTheRich3000
No ID, no warrant makes ice kidnappers. Many states have laws that allow you to defend against identified threats.
Imetyourmonontinder
Trump retweets threat against democratic voters....*crickets* Two men discuss protecting harmless people against authoritarian regime... Jail.
Is American great yet? Seems pretty facist to me.
pirateninjaunicornattacksquad
Ah yes, the crime of using their 1st amendment rights.
Tryingtodoright
Wait, isn't this exactly the kind of conversation the right has been having for years. Except that they were talking about protecting kids and they talking about protecting their gas stove?
BojanglesTheFlyingCar
Ice is made up of a bunch of quislings
GorillaFLicks
History needs to repeat itself today.
IYKYK
Dimestream
Just two brothers having a hypothetical conversation. If ICE isn't kidnapping children from their school, it's purely hypothetical and is just free speech!
zupkuck
John Brown did nothing wrong.
Nightcaste
Isn't this hearsay?
Tmissfrizzle
They will be remembered for being on the right side of history
PaulDam
Sees hometown mentioned: Hey! :)
Assistant principal arrested: oh D:
For threatening ICE: HEY! :D
Ddenver
Was he treating police or ICE. Those are two different entities.
RichardPenne
When did they make threats against anyone? They discussed defending the country from Nazis. LOTS of people are discussing defending the country from Nazis.
KAPTKipper
The crime is not being brown enough to deport.
ickyickywoopwoo
So he was kidnapped by police for say they shouldn't do that?
tr3kstar
First amendment protects exactly this speech. They are not the first people who have been arrested for similar things either. Shit needs to stop.
ParryLost
No, no, I'm pretty sure the First Amendment is only for protecting racism and transphobia, just like the Second Amendment is only for helping you storm the Capitol to steal elections for Trump... Any other use of these principles sounds like Woke Librul Marxism to me...
senseicombs
Did they imply that the actions of ICE were, "punishable by death" because threats of death have been established as 100% ok and even celebrated by the Republican Party and the president?
AlmostCertainlyNotPickles
B. Thorpe is a snitch.
tr3kstar
B. Thorpe is a fascist and should be arrested for filing a false report and false imprisonment, and be sued by these two for the same and for using his/her position as a LEO to violate their first amendment rights.
JimmyWalkerTexasRanger
Yep. Bitch needs to get that snitch up out his mouth. https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1NmFtcWN6NnY3aXN0ajdxemp3dDVmNDQxcDM0dGNuY2I0dXEyMDFtYSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/xT8qBjW8P17mTeYYow/200w.gif
AlmostCertainlyNotPickles
The Bennetts are innocent. They have committed no crime.
procrastinatorman
I see no crime here
darksamus8
It goes beyond that- he spoke offhandedly in a restaurant about “they needed to do something about it" and that was it. That's is 100% of the evidence for which they are being charged with a crime. Literal DEFINITION of hearsay.
Regardless of your views on the Gestap- sorry, ICE, there ACTUALLY is no crime here.
The president actively tweets about how democratic lawmakers should be put to death, but these guys get arrested for speaking in a restaurant.
tr3kstar
That's because there isn't one.
Neurisko
Something something "who saves his country commits no crime"
FunWithUsernames
I see heroes here
PileOfWalthers
> This is the first time I’ve heard anyone talk about using their 2A rights to defend their community against masked gunmen kidnapping people,
Not very attentive, are you?
PileOfWalthers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Alvarado_ICE_facility_attack
PileOfWalthers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Dallas_ICE_facility_shooting
DownvotesStarWars
Ugh, you’d think I would remember the one that happened in MY CITY when I lived there.
And yes, I do have troubles keeping track of this administration and the associated antics
veronicablood
ICE came to Durham NC for ONE DAY.
ICE melts fast in the south.
"WHO SLASHED OUR TIRES??"
ArcUlfr
Now I'm kind of wondering what would happen if they went to Fayetteville.
veronicablood
military base.
ArcUlfr
That means there are a lot of young people trained by the military there, many of whom are not white. But regardless, I was referring to the fact that it's a place with rather high crime rate, probably higher than Durham.
veronicablood
you know what city has a high crime rate?
Doesn't matter!
You don't use the military as police, ever.
ArcUlfr
I have no idea what you're referring to here. ICE is not military. When ICE went to Durham, they had trouble due to the locals slashing their tires. If they go to Fayetteville, it will probably go even worse for them, which would be funny to me.
Etherealvalentine
Most of the people i know who own boom sticks feel this way. Fuck these little snowflake boys and their pretend ICE games.
akafluffy
I'm glad you know more good people than I. Lotta 2a folks think they'll join up only if ICE gets worse.
JimmyWalkerTexasRanger
As a resident of Norfolk Virginia, I can safely say that the "B." in Officer "snitch" Thorpe stands for bitch. https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1dHczcjc4d2hhbjl5cWN6YTh5bHN6emZxb3Nka2p2am1qdmxtaHhiMiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/XozypzpGakVuX2ciZJ/200w.gif
stonerhino
As a fellow resident of Norfolk Va, I agree.
forgotiwasfine
I second (amendment) that emotion
Clockworkdancerobot
ICE is a bunch of snowflakes https://www.reddit.com/r/illinois/comments/1p1t9y2/a_man_condemning_ice_and_border_patrol_agents_why/
arocktrucker777
Fuckin A right!!!!!!
OhIfIMust
Haha, that’s beautiful!
cytherians
That's really revealing video. There's no professionalism in ICE. They're a bunch of hooligans being funded by all of us tax payers, to kidnap people based on color and/or language spoken, not reasonable cause.
Skywatcher16
thugs and bullyboys lead by a handful of incompetent fascists.
WeatherWiz
As much as I don’t like ICE, plotting to kill or harm anyone, making any online threats, no matter who they are, is always going to get you in some sort of trouble.
linexnewt
And then get pardoned for it... right Proud Boys?
Ultratoxic
So don't talk about it, be about it
Etherealvalentine
Which is why we need to stand behind those individuals
Bojovnik84
Yeah, but they've been doing this for years, so I'm glad we are meeting them with equal force. That's all that will work anymore. They blew up the high road, so time to come down to their level and send them one lower.
livurz
Is having a plan to defend yourself against home invasion against a known, likely threat an issue, then?
bippityboppitybuttsex
Unless you are the president of the United States
euphoricopportunity
It would be interesting for the Congress members to call the DC cops on Trump. Seems to meet the "true threat" bar.
PostalHeathen
Moral of the story? Better opsec is a must.
tr3kstar
It wasn't online threats, it was an overheard conversation in a restaurant.
WeatherWiz
Still it’s a threat, no? I read up on it and the off duty officer overheard them making plans to go to Las Vegas, talking about weapons and pens that can penetrate bullet proof vests. Now, if you assume the officer was lying, then sure it’s unfounded. But conspiracy to commit malicious acts is a crime.
whyisthisusernamealwaystaken
They wouldn't think twice if the situation were reversed. Not dealing with racists in a way that has lasting consequences is HOW WE GOT HERE.
jayman0123
the worst thing the US ever did post Civil War was not execute every single member of the Confederacy.
PersonalityFire
I feel like this is lost on many people? If you take shots at cops, you're going to fucking die. Right or wrong. Whether you view them as legitimate or not, the Federal government does. It will crush you. Americans need to try community and organization for fucking ONCE. Lone wolf shit isn't going to make a dent. If you even want a country worth fighting for, organization needs to happen regardless. And further discussion isn't going to happen on fucking imgur dot com.
PersonalityFire
So stop floating around feeling anxious or wondering what to do, and be a part of something: https://www.dsausa.org/get-involved/
SalvadoroftheDali
I mean yeah. Whether you agree with what he said or not, making any public threats will get anyone arrested.
WeatherWiz
Probably should have also added if you’re a normal citizen, then you can get in trouble. Cause clearly the president can make verbal threats and he is ok.
SalvadoroftheDali
Fair enough. I meant any normal citizen making public threats will be arrested.
MeestowKitty
Well folks. Now's the time to learn about OPSEC. Do not discuss plans in public places. Keep phones and other devices far away from you. Ideally, place phones in a Faraday Cage (one can be made out of any metal container and a platform inside of it to keep the phones from contact the sides. Use code words, or memetic language (Darmok and Jalad) that you and your people will understand. Don't put ANYTHING into a computer (you can't bug a handwritten note), modern OSs ALWAYS spy on you.
RoboVik
Canada, when the White House burned...
MeestowKitty
Kirk, his throat open.
RoboVik
Mango, when he presented for Bubba
cuttysark
An ethical judge will make mincemeat out of the charges
KatsuVohlakari
Are there any left?
Skywatcher16
at the lower levels. yes. its at the supreme and appeals levels that it gets more questionable.
cuttysark
yes, in Chicago 9 of the 12 ICE indictments have been withdrawn. Soon to be 10 of 12.
bridgebrain
Surprisingly yes. A lot of the orange ones shit has been thrown out even by judges he appointed. They're collectively buried under the flood the zone tactics, but they're not completely bending the knee at least
OhIfIMust
The crime is standing up against tyranny.
ClassyNerdySexy
Why does the one on the left look like discount Harrison Ford?
cytherians
Remember how Trump let loose a whole tirade about how Democrat senators should be charged with sedition and executed for suggesting that the military obey only lawful orders?
Next it'll be saying that Trump is running a regime of tyranny. Rather than explain how he believes he isn't a tyrant, he'd simply say that claiming he is should be punishable by death.
IhopeUgetwhatUvoted4
The crime was being in public. The off duty cop claimed he heard them say something and that resulted in arrest and ceasure of their phones and computers for a fishing expedition.
YouRadicalizedMe
Hang ice from the tallest trees . And trump
DarknessfillsmyheartwithpainTIMMAY
While eating a succulent Chinese meal
interestingmonster
He ad to be said
Hurch
NOT standing up against tyranny should be a crime.
OhIfIMust
It is in my book, but I don't have quite the enforcement arm as these jokers.
covid19carrier
Also said by the guys who planned to kidnap a governor.
SuperSaiyanYamcha
The subtle difference may be lost on you here so I’ll explain: plotting to abduct someone is a crime, stopping an abduction is not.
Hopefully that clears things up for you.
covid19carrier
I’m just saying the language is similar to that used of people on the other side. One man’s freedom fighter is another man’s terrorist. People have to be careful with the language so as to not give the opposing side an opportunity to demonize. I am not saying they are wrong but anyone should be careful to make sure their words and actions fall within the defense of others and the law surrounding it. When you teeter on assassination of police you damage your position more than help it.
phoenix0path
Oh look, another "both sides" fascist apologist.
Get bent.
RoxJedi
Well, let me be extra careful with how I word this, then:
Light those motherfuckers on fire in public.......
How was that?
OhIfIMust
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
This is the first thing that gives me hope for the US. This "crime" of having the courage and moral fortitude of the French Resistance. At some point, people with integrity can no longer stand idly by while their fellow countrypeople are abducted to an uncertain fate. If there is any hope & future for a nation, eventually good people will start shooting fascists. If this doesn't happen you might as well let it all burn to the ground, fascists & bystanders alike.
XuncuTheTiger
That's one of the sexiest pictures I've seen all day.
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
Of course now someone will be along to warn that this gives the trump regime an excuse to… BZZZT. They make up their own alternate reality, such as Portland being a war zone. They do whatever they please w/o having to wait for an incident that can be construed to justify their agenda. ICE arresting & shooting citizens? Happening now. Military in the streets? Ditto. Surveillance & databases on a never-before-seen scale, protesters & activists being declared terrorists, it's all happening already.
ABrokenThing
Nah, nobody is coming along to say whatever that shit is you wrote. Anyone that does is a trump supporter trying to hide among normal people
Eldis
There's been a lot of people saying "violence is not the answer." A lot of fucking people. The usual rhetoric is "that's just what _they_ want, they'll justify even more brutality if we revolt violently!" and I keep asking "how much more is enough." Currently I don't see many good arguments against violent revolution, or at least setting up guerilla cells to respond to ICE by opeing fire at them every time they pop up somewherer.
ABrokenThing
There is no good argument against it. They continuously use violence against us, if you don't respond in kind, they will keep going.
Lynkfox
There is a place for non violent protests. We still need them
We also need guillotines and Luigi's and molotovs. It's not one or the other, the non violent stuff is still useful because it keeps people involved, informed, and if they have too much to risk (family, young kids, ect they need to protect first) then they know they aren't alone.
But violence is gonna be needed... Probably really *has* been needed
Eldis
yeah, the longer the resistance stays non-violent the more there's gonna be harm towards people who physically cannot fight back