May 10, 2018 4:04 AM
HippoKing22
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whatiseeisntwhatyousee
Challenge accepted?
MrWatchandGame
or you can rob a blood drive
darkninja2992
What if i just mix my own blood into the melted iron, to make a mythical bond with it?
alaskangoth
Unrelated, I have...free punch and pie for everyone who visits the secluded back room of my forge. Nothing fishy. Come on over...
muhvitus
How would you separate iron from blood? Asking for a friend.
GeneralComments
challenge accepted
Donttouchmydrink
Why stop with just a sword you also need shinguards, chest plate, helmet, shield and bracers
MightyIink
Well this actually sounds like it's within the realm of possibility.
Scruffy2
Or just 300, if they're really fat
Omgwtfm
that doesn't sound right, i think the number would be bigger, much bigger, like in the thousands.
Bazmech
That's a lot less then I thought it would be
inyourheadunderyourskin
Easy, already have that. What next?
zankfrappa93
Whoa... Stalin must've had a whole arsenal of longswords.
aluminumfalconjumpercables
How many for a dagger?
SpankyFantastic
That seems doable
AWhiteYoshi
You could also capture someone you really hate and regularly blood let them, then kill them with a sword made from their own blood.
SwordsToTheSkyWeRideAtDawn
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?503133-How-to-extract-the-iron-out-of-blood-to-make-a-sword-from-one-s-foes
HairyPicklePuller
Then perform a necromatic ritual to bind the souls of the people who became the sword. Summon them in combat and have a ghost army.
Neptuner82
Found the actual necromancer.
It's bring practical, use all your resources to their full extent. Think of it as going green.
HonestlyHereForFun
It will be a pretty small long sword and would weight between 2-4 grams... Interesting false facts
For science: 1dl blood has between 25 and 168 mygrams => 60dl*359*0.000168g=3.719 g
IThinkYouGotAFineBrainJack
Wasn't there a Tumblr post about using carbon and other parts of the bodies to reduce the required kill count?
Falanxzealot
A good medieval european sword blade was about 0.5-0.6% carbon. Not much of a reduction in the iron you need.
ChibiKia
That seems kind of low. Are we talking about a rapier?
Keairan
a heavy zweihander is like 5 kilos. Heavy for a longsword would be 2 kilos. Most guys have maybe 4-5 grams of iron in their bodies. So (1)
1500/4.5 = 333 men killed and their body de-ironed.
jobe
Well that kinda depends on how good you are at extracting iron and purifying it
Scarecrow0191
How does one extract iron from blood? You know, hypothetically. For a friend.
GalaxyOfThisSucksCamelDick
you could boil it or centrifuge it, make it precipitate from solution as ironoxide and then reduce it to iron from there i guess...
aKaiAppears
JesusMacGyver
Numbers seem sketchy, where is science side of imgur? Mols of iron per litre, average litres etc etc ok go
PolyphaseAvatron
A usable life hack at last.
OKiluvUBuhBai
Bravo good sir on the user name and the comment. I say, this should have more upvotes
whosagoodboy92
finally a reason to be a mortician
Whiteoak789
Or death hack?
Deerfist
You can also burn the bones to use the carbon to strengthen the blade
You're much better off burning everything else for carbon, than a structure that's 80%+ calcium phosphate.
whoudini
Does blood type affect quality?
AmArschdieRaeuber
No it doesn't, blood type is determined by antibodies. Those don't contain any iron.
lowenar
I hate to b negative, but the answer is no
YourEx
A+ question!
valen00
Outstanding!
kmaz
O, I don't know. Probably, but I'm not positive.
Very nice work.
I see what you did there
JeremyPeevin
That's assuming you get all the blood too and make no mistakes processing.
Warpman
So round to 500 for mistakes
yourealltheworst
Let's add another 10, we need a bucket of blood to quench the blade
That'd *probably* not be great for the metal tbh. Now if you rendered their body fat into oil
Its be terrible for the metal, the sword would shatter first time you use it. But it looks so cool in the movies
graou13
Also it's making an high-carbon steel
ChaotikWolfi
Is that a good thing of a bad thing?
Compared to iron? It's way better, it's still sensible to rust but it's a lot stronger than iron. you have to procure the carbon though.
no, I mean, is High Carbon steel better or worse than low carbon steel?
Well, high steel is stronger than low carbon but if you have impurity in it it'll be more brittle than with low carbon
dashcan
Smarter to kill 3 or 4 times the amount, just to make sure you have enough, and its of better quality, as you'll need to refine it a lot.
PaulyParker
belortik
Yeah good luck getting 100% yield out of the extraction.
PoesCrow
Just kill like ten guys and cool the sword with the blood instead of water
pangalgargblast
well, also the original calculation probably assumes 100% extraction, whereas chemical processes like that one might be far lower efficiency
Reptaur
I like the way you think
UglyHorribleGrouchyOldMan
3-4? You're underestimating how many do-overs it's going to take me.
HitlersArtCritic
3-4 times. I suggest you start with 359 then do 1436
Based on your username, I take your professional advice.
InappropriateSexualComment
This guy kills.
batcountry007
hamper10
smarter still to keep a couple around and drain their blood slowly over time to have a renewable resource
AgamemnonsMemes
Could take longer though, plus you'd have a hard time keeping the blood so you might want to collect all the victims ahead of time
DahPrincess
Not if you face enough of them. Keep them drained and chained like the djinn from Supernatural
chimpbott
I'd rather just press 'em like grapes.
duckshooter
Why not keep one in basement and keep draining a pint or two from a single body over time.
OmgOptimized
It'd take years, then.
HOW LONG DO YOU THINK WOULD IT TAKE TO KILL 359 PEOPLE SMARTY PANTS?
I reckon after about a hundred you get pretty good at it...
...if you dont get caught after the first few.
According to all the Conan and Berserk I've read? Pretty quick.
Kittynomnoms
Depending on how you do it... From years to about 2 seconds? In a world where you're forging a sword out of blood I assume there is magic.
Also, you'd need to feed your prisoner foods containing iron... why go throught his middleman? (heh)
Deliveryham
You could just feed them cereal and bread, relatively cheap
I wonder how many boxes of cereal it would take to make a sword? Now I want a sword forged from the breakfast of my enemies...
Kluehouse
not to mention the fact that no reaction has a yield of 100%
That's not true, there are tons of reactions that give quantitative yields. The loss comes from the extraction and purification.
well it get into what do you define as the reaction and what do you mean by 100% and but it is fair to say as a general rule that you won't
There is no room to argue the definition of 100% and chemical reaction.
get 100% for a reaction
I commented something similar, but then read your preexisting comment. I commend thee.
I commend thee for remember chemistry principles
docmarblerunnerbill
After killing 359 enemies, what do you need the sword for? You obviously have the correct means for killing.
thankyouforyourserviceforpointsonanythingmillitary
Depends how many continues you use
RavensX1X
Well, you start with the sword, but then you need the rest of your tier 1 gear.
weerdo
To improve your gear to fight the end boss... the dreaded mother-in-law
thelastkingofscotland
It's a participation award!
Monkeybone5581
Trophy.
Zoywastaken
There is a reason you STAY king of the mountain
ItsJustACoincidence
The reward.
ArnoGerber
It is not the prize that matters, but the principle.
waitisitalreadydeletedawheckstillworthit
According to a D&D campaign I’m running, constructing a phylactery, maybe?
kanibal101
Stats
iamleejn
Sword becomes trophy to your kill-streak.
candar
Cheevos
braaaiiiiinnnnsss
Do people get an ergonomic keyboard before or after carpal tunnel? Same issue here.
LeftFielder
What if it was a sword forged from the blood of your fallen clansmen\tribe, using the blood of your fallen kin to avenge them?
Rhulain
Ooo. Forged by the gods and returned to him by an eagle for his glorious revenge!
BadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerMushroomMushroom
cos a sword made of the blood of ur enemies is fucking epic dude
Alagold
Find joy in the journey they say
TrombeOverride
It is not about killing. Its about sending a message.
alsoAzrael
everything burns.....
Antibiotics
I tried aloe vera but that didn't do anything.
ijoinedtoolate
This mans right; Its about the journey, not the destination
MinBlick
This thread is oddly motivating.
Spfeel
Gonna work on my 300 today :)
Every drop counts! You can do it!
WilltheGinger
The real treasure was the friendships you made along the way
Blackice42069
AlexisWalker
Nah. The REAL treasure was the satisfaction when you stabbed them all in the back.
Dark.. I like it
How about making a drinking cup? To celebrate your victory.
CaptainWolfsburg
If you're going to do that, just drink from skulls of your enemy.
Sadpandathesad
Drinking from a cup made from your enemies blood is way more badass. But why not both?
I SHALL DRINK MY ENEMIES BLOOD FROM A CUP MADE OF MY ENEMIES BLOOD THAT I HAVE SLAIN WITH A SWORD MADE FROM MY ENEMIES BLOOD!!!!!!!!
Exactly! This guy gets it
KiyaSeraphia
mayday223
FjoltnyrIII
DefinitelyNotFourEels
Haven't you seen that comic where the guy can't drink from the skills of his enemies cos the fluid just runs out from the eye-holes?
we can plug the holes, we have the technology.... seriously, just make an inner lining out of clay or something.
LightningFIshLivesInTheDeep
Skulls make bad cups. Too many holes and acidic drinks dissolve it.
Line the inner part with a layer of clay, boom, done.
Cut the crown off, turn it upside down, and use it like a bowl
2flower
Skulls belong to Khorne.
MILK FOR THE KHORNEFLAKES
SUGAR FOR THE SUGARGOD!
Lynxissiodorensis
That’s how I feel about the whole avengers movie plot
ktheman
So many plot holes with it. Strange could have easily used the time stone for more than scenario runthrough but clearly it doesn't matter...
Musoukadake
That was probably covered by the 1mil scenario is he saw in the future
Lionskull
one of the theories out there is that this path is the one path to victory that he saw and it's not done yet. There's a second part to IW.
Irradiatedchipmunk
How is that even "one" of the theories, he pretty much says that is the case outright before vanishing.
DanSapSan
Well, it somehow isn't that clear. There are threads aplenty discussing this "out of character" moment for Strange.
eggmuffin
Did you forget how big a deal it was the last time the time stone was used?
Yes, the Earth was saved from imminent destruction... God forbid that happening again
I don't feel it's wrong for Strange to use the time stone to win a battle against a guy that uses the space stone to visit the toilet...
The Earth is a paltry reward when the risk is the unraveling of the very function of time across existence.
LostHonour
Then you're dense. He's talking about affecting an entire universe. Local space travel pales in comparison.
Alavar
Except not. He has the Infinity Gauntlet and stones. He can do as he wishes. Thanos original reason for wiping out 50% makes more sense.
bogus1983
Yes, he could conceivably increase the necessary resources for every civilization everywhere forever, but that's a lot more work.
FifthElementRandy
Wasn't the original reason cause he wanted to dog pound death?
BlueDsc
What could be a more understandable reason?
whatiseeisntwhatyousee
Challenge accepted?
MrWatchandGame
or you can rob a blood drive
darkninja2992
What if i just mix my own blood into the melted iron, to make a mythical bond with it?
alaskangoth
Unrelated, I have...free punch and pie for everyone who visits the secluded back room of my forge. Nothing fishy. Come on over...
muhvitus
How would you separate iron from blood? Asking for a friend.
GeneralComments
challenge accepted
Donttouchmydrink
Why stop with just a sword you also need shinguards, chest plate, helmet, shield and bracers
MightyIink
Well this actually sounds like it's within the realm of possibility.
Scruffy2
Or just 300, if they're really fat
Omgwtfm
that doesn't sound right, i think the number would be bigger, much bigger, like in the thousands.
Bazmech
That's a lot less then I thought it would be
inyourheadunderyourskin
Easy, already have that. What next?
zankfrappa93
Whoa... Stalin must've had a whole arsenal of longswords.
aluminumfalconjumpercables
How many for a dagger?
SpankyFantastic
That seems doable
AWhiteYoshi
You could also capture someone you really hate and regularly blood let them, then kill them with a sword made from their own blood.
SwordsToTheSkyWeRideAtDawn
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?503133-How-to-extract-the-iron-out-of-blood-to-make-a-sword-from-one-s-foes
HairyPicklePuller
Then perform a necromatic ritual to bind the souls of the people who became the sword. Summon them in combat and have a ghost army.
Neptuner82
Found the actual necromancer.
HairyPicklePuller
It's bring practical, use all your resources to their full extent. Think of it as going green.
HonestlyHereForFun
It will be a pretty small long sword and would weight between 2-4 grams... Interesting false facts
HonestlyHereForFun
For science: 1dl blood has between 25 and 168 mygrams => 60dl*359*0.000168g=3.719 g
IThinkYouGotAFineBrainJack
Wasn't there a Tumblr post about using carbon and other parts of the bodies to reduce the required kill count?
Falanxzealot
A good medieval european sword blade was about 0.5-0.6% carbon. Not much of a reduction in the iron you need.
ChibiKia
That seems kind of low. Are we talking about a rapier?
Keairan
a heavy zweihander is like 5 kilos. Heavy for a longsword would be 2 kilos. Most guys have maybe 4-5 grams of iron in their bodies. So (1)
Keairan
1500/4.5 = 333 men killed and their body de-ironed.
jobe
Well that kinda depends on how good you are at extracting iron and purifying it
Scarecrow0191
How does one extract iron from blood? You know, hypothetically. For a friend.
GalaxyOfThisSucksCamelDick
you could boil it or centrifuge it, make it precipitate from solution as ironoxide and then reduce it to iron from there i guess...
aKaiAppears
JesusMacGyver
Numbers seem sketchy, where is science side of imgur? Mols of iron per litre, average litres etc etc ok go
PolyphaseAvatron
A usable life hack at last.
OKiluvUBuhBai
Bravo good sir on the user name and the comment. I say, this should have more upvotes
whosagoodboy92
finally a reason to be a mortician
Whiteoak789
Or death hack?
Deerfist
You can also burn the bones to use the carbon to strengthen the blade
Falanxzealot
You're much better off burning everything else for carbon, than a structure that's 80%+ calcium phosphate.
whoudini
Does blood type affect quality?
AmArschdieRaeuber
No it doesn't, blood type is determined by antibodies. Those don't contain any iron.
lowenar
I hate to b negative, but the answer is no
YourEx
A+ question!
valen00
Outstanding!
kmaz
O, I don't know. Probably, but I'm not positive.
whoudini
Very nice work.
Neptuner82
I see what you did there
JeremyPeevin
That's assuming you get all the blood too and make no mistakes processing.
Warpman
So round to 500 for mistakes
yourealltheworst
Let's add another 10, we need a bucket of blood to quench the blade
valen00
That'd *probably* not be great for the metal tbh. Now if you rendered their body fat into oil
yourealltheworst
Its be terrible for the metal, the sword would shatter first time you use it. But it looks so cool in the movies
graou13
Also it's making an high-carbon steel
ChaotikWolfi
Is that a good thing of a bad thing?
graou13
Compared to iron? It's way better, it's still sensible to rust but it's a lot stronger than iron. you have to procure the carbon though.
ChaotikWolfi
no, I mean, is High Carbon steel better or worse than low carbon steel?
graou13
Well, high steel is stronger than low carbon but if you have impurity in it it'll be more brittle than with low carbon
dashcan
Smarter to kill 3 or 4 times the amount, just to make sure you have enough, and its of better quality, as you'll need to refine it a lot.
PaulyParker
belortik
Yeah good luck getting 100% yield out of the extraction.
PoesCrow
Just kill like ten guys and cool the sword with the blood instead of water
pangalgargblast
well, also the original calculation probably assumes 100% extraction, whereas chemical processes like that one might be far lower efficiency
Reptaur
I like the way you think
UglyHorribleGrouchyOldMan
3-4? You're underestimating how many do-overs it's going to take me.
HitlersArtCritic
3-4 times. I suggest you start with 359 then do 1436
UglyHorribleGrouchyOldMan
Based on your username, I take your professional advice.
InappropriateSexualComment
This guy kills.
batcountry007
hamper10
smarter still to keep a couple around and drain their blood slowly over time to have a renewable resource
AgamemnonsMemes
Could take longer though, plus you'd have a hard time keeping the blood so you might want to collect all the victims ahead of time
DahPrincess
Not if you face enough of them. Keep them drained and chained like the djinn from Supernatural
chimpbott
I'd rather just press 'em like grapes.
duckshooter
Why not keep one in basement and keep draining a pint or two from a single body over time.
OmgOptimized
It'd take years, then.
duckshooter
HOW LONG DO YOU THINK WOULD IT TAKE TO KILL 359 PEOPLE SMARTY PANTS?
OmgOptimized
I reckon after about a hundred you get pretty good at it...
duckshooter
...if you dont get caught after the first few.
dashcan
According to all the Conan and Berserk I've read? Pretty quick.
Kittynomnoms
Depending on how you do it... From years to about 2 seconds? In a world where you're forging a sword out of blood I assume there is magic.
OmgOptimized
Also, you'd need to feed your prisoner foods containing iron... why go throught his middleman? (heh)
Deliveryham
You could just feed them cereal and bread, relatively cheap
chimpbott
I wonder how many boxes of cereal it would take to make a sword? Now I want a sword forged from the breakfast of my enemies...
Kluehouse
not to mention the fact that no reaction has a yield of 100%
belortik
That's not true, there are tons of reactions that give quantitative yields. The loss comes from the extraction and purification.
Kluehouse
well it get into what do you define as the reaction and what do you mean by 100% and but it is fair to say as a general rule that you won't
belortik
There is no room to argue the definition of 100% and chemical reaction.
Kluehouse
get 100% for a reaction
pangalgargblast
I commented something similar, but then read your preexisting comment. I commend thee.
Kluehouse
I commend thee for remember chemistry principles
docmarblerunnerbill
After killing 359 enemies, what do you need the sword for? You obviously have the correct means for killing.
thankyouforyourserviceforpointsonanythingmillitary
Depends how many continues you use
RavensX1X
Well, you start with the sword, but then you need the rest of your tier 1 gear.
weerdo
To improve your gear to fight the end boss... the dreaded mother-in-law
thelastkingofscotland
It's a participation award!
Monkeybone5581
Trophy.
Zoywastaken
There is a reason you STAY king of the mountain
ItsJustACoincidence
The reward.
ArnoGerber
It is not the prize that matters, but the principle.
waitisitalreadydeletedawheckstillworthit
According to a D&D campaign I’m running, constructing a phylactery, maybe?
kanibal101
Stats
iamleejn
Sword becomes trophy to your kill-streak.
candar
Cheevos
braaaiiiiinnnnsss
Do people get an ergonomic keyboard before or after carpal tunnel? Same issue here.
LeftFielder
What if it was a sword forged from the blood of your fallen clansmen\tribe, using the blood of your fallen kin to avenge them?
Rhulain
Ooo. Forged by the gods and returned to him by an eagle for his glorious revenge!
BadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerMushroomMushroom
cos a sword made of the blood of ur enemies is fucking epic dude
Alagold
Find joy in the journey they say
TrombeOverride
It is not about killing. Its about sending a message.
alsoAzrael
everything burns.....
docmarblerunnerbill
Antibiotics
alsoAzrael
I tried aloe vera but that didn't do anything.
ijoinedtoolate
This mans right; Its about the journey, not the destination
MinBlick
This thread is oddly motivating.
Spfeel
Gonna work on my 300 today :)
MinBlick
Every drop counts! You can do it!
WilltheGinger
The real treasure was the friendships you made along the way
Blackice42069
AlexisWalker
Nah. The REAL treasure was the satisfaction when you stabbed them all in the back.
WilltheGinger
Dark.. I like it
docmarblerunnerbill
How about making a drinking cup? To celebrate your victory.
CaptainWolfsburg
If you're going to do that, just drink from skulls of your enemy.
Sadpandathesad
Drinking from a cup made from your enemies blood is way more badass. But why not both?
ChaotikWolfi
I SHALL DRINK MY ENEMIES BLOOD FROM A CUP MADE OF MY ENEMIES BLOOD THAT I HAVE SLAIN WITH A SWORD MADE FROM MY ENEMIES BLOOD!!!!!!!!
Sadpandathesad
Exactly! This guy gets it
KiyaSeraphia
mayday223
FjoltnyrIII
DefinitelyNotFourEels
Haven't you seen that comic where the guy can't drink from the skills of his enemies cos the fluid just runs out from the eye-holes?
ChaotikWolfi
we can plug the holes, we have the technology.... seriously, just make an inner lining out of clay or something.
LightningFIshLivesInTheDeep
Skulls make bad cups. Too many holes and acidic drinks dissolve it.
ChaotikWolfi
Line the inner part with a layer of clay, boom, done.
CaptainWolfsburg
Cut the crown off, turn it upside down, and use it like a bowl
2flower
Skulls belong to Khorne.
ChaotikWolfi
MILK FOR THE KHORNEFLAKES
2flower
SUGAR FOR THE SUGARGOD!
Lynxissiodorensis
That’s how I feel about the whole avengers movie plot
ktheman
So many plot holes with it. Strange could have easily used the time stone for more than scenario runthrough but clearly it doesn't matter...
Musoukadake
That was probably covered by the 1mil scenario is he saw in the future
Lionskull
one of the theories out there is that this path is the one path to victory that he saw and it's not done yet. There's a second part to IW.
Irradiatedchipmunk
How is that even "one" of the theories, he pretty much says that is the case outright before vanishing.
DanSapSan
Well, it somehow isn't that clear. There are threads aplenty discussing this "out of character" moment for Strange.
eggmuffin
Did you forget how big a deal it was the last time the time stone was used?
DefinitelyNotFourEels
Yes, the Earth was saved from imminent destruction... God forbid that happening again
DefinitelyNotFourEels
I don't feel it's wrong for Strange to use the time stone to win a battle against a guy that uses the space stone to visit the toilet...
eggmuffin
The Earth is a paltry reward when the risk is the unraveling of the very function of time across existence.
LostHonour
Then you're dense. He's talking about affecting an entire universe. Local space travel pales in comparison.
Alavar
Except not. He has the Infinity Gauntlet and stones. He can do as he wishes. Thanos original reason for wiping out 50% makes more sense.
bogus1983
Yes, he could conceivably increase the necessary resources for every civilization everywhere forever, but that's a lot more work.
FifthElementRandy
Wasn't the original reason cause he wanted to dog pound death?
BlueDsc
What could be a more understandable reason?