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TheMoonBnuuy
Becoming sick or injured is a moral failing to them. Becoming homeless is a moral failing to them. Losing or leaving your job for any reason is a moral failing to them.
When they were young they could just walk into any business and say "I need a job" and the place would be like "ok let's show you the ropes and get you started on working." They could make enough money to get a house with that job and pay for their education and medical bills out of pocket. So they think it's still that way today
chatawillybilly
Trump appointed judge no less
Kantoken
And what are you going to do about it? Let me guess, nothing?
darthinebriated
TBF whining on the internet is something. It's not anything meaningful, productive, or useful but it is something.
neonin
Repeatedly votes for a party of confirmed Nazis and career criminals who have repeatedly told you that they hate you and want nothing but poverty for you and wealth for them. Wonders why they're poor. God Americans are the dumbest possible people.
darkdragonempress
I mean yeah we are, but that’s due to decades of propaganda, education cuts, and racism being allowed to dictate policy.
PwnageHobo
Vter3
Mx7733
And 1/3rd dont care, 1/3rd laughs and 1/3 is licking windows. USA what a shitshow!
lemonglitter
Happened to me! I had cancer and no insurance. I had a credit score of 842 and now live in an RV in my parents back yard.
Marsmallowmancer
this is how you kill people
martineb72
The thing is medical debt barely lowers your credit score right now(maybe 10 points lower). A decade ago it was treated as unsecured debt, but now even the credit agency know it's not an accurate portrayal of a persons credit worthiness. Your real problem is the states that allow medical debt to garnish your wages. It will not effect your chances of getting housing.
IamnotEggman
(sarcastily) I'm mean if you're poor what's the point in getting cured anyway? You'd still be poor, laughes in dollar signs.
Meetgeorgejetson4510
Debtor’s prison is right around the corner.
parabolic000
I'm pretty sure they already have those in several states. I'm pretty sure Ohio is one of them.
johnvictor
They need that slave labor to pick the crops that the immigrants did.
xj4low
Local big city just passed a law that makes it illegal to place any personal belongings around you and/or sleep or nap in a public place. Instead of trying to find a solution to the problem, they made it illegal to be homeless.
There is no one alive that can't have their life flipped upside down with a phone call.
DudeThatsRacist
Gotta make those for-profit prisons worth it.
joshep3887
That’s heartbreaking. Instead of helping people, they’ve basically made it illegal to be poor or down on your luck. No one is immune — anyone’s life can change in an instant with just one phone call.
RobotRabbitWarrior
And now you have a criminal record and can be denied even more.
onecowboytoo
In WA, they put small boulders where there were encampments around onramps and along side the highway.
DiracsDelta
If I can’t doze off in a park, then it’s not a public space.
wadatahmydamie
YOU can, I’m sure. Anybody who looks like they “belong” won’t be harassed.
TheMostKink
Anyone can, not everybody will. Just like jaywalking, they now have a reason to pull you away and apply pressure.
johnvictor
The pain is the point. We're a country of rugged individualism that is antithetic to what humans really are. We stand divided or die alone in a ditch.
VictusVonGuyver
Individualism is a strong aspect, but that isn't the issue. The issue is extreme tribalism, and our media acts like a progansa outlet to demonize anyone to push an agenda.
A smart person would stop and say "Hey, that doesn't sound right, aren't these people?" But a moron will cream "My freedom! Our needs, and that everyone else should stay out or die!"
It works because it's the most primitive aspect of us, the part that came first before cooperation to survive.
WrongUn
US Is a toilet
ModsSometimesHeedMyScamWarnings
This is a bot account that pivoted to left wing content.
bertchstudio
This is how you make credit scores only matter if you can afford to live in an HOA ... Wait that's totally how it already works
99% of this shit is "you can't have what we have!" And not enough of us are going "good! what you want is ass, bro"
socraticmeathead
Did you ever consider that if we torment poor enough, they'll stop being poor? /s
KatInTheCorner
I'll say this till I'm blue in the face:
The only thing they care about is making money for a small group of people.
That's it. They are running the country like a business, and ALL they care about is the current bottom line.
They aren't planning for the future, they don't care about anyone, they are trying to make as much money as possible.
When you start seeing all of their choices through that lens, it makes it way easier to understand.
vwzzjxv6f9101
Correction they are running the country like vulture capitalists. Steal all the money and saddle the country with debt them run off with the money. https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTY1YjkxZmJleTZpamMyZWwyYjBsYzZsYzc4aDZmYmRoNmdtN3kwZTg0bWoxZjRtcSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/Wc7jR0XiqEHSoruQIM/giphy.mp4
KatInTheCorner
I agree with you about what they're doing, but I argue that there's no such thing as vulture capitalism. This is just...capitalism.
The ONLY thing that prevents capitalism from being like this is adopting socialist policies to moderate it.
Which just tells me it's socialism that actually works, and sometimes aspects of capitalism (if appropriately monitored) can flourish in that environment.
Bignholy
Except in the US, socialist policies were ALSO capitalism. They found it was easier and smarter to take care of their workers and boost productivity. These dipshits forgot/ignore that.
They also forgot that Unions are the alternative to blood running in the streets, and Democracy is what you do to avoid guillotines. They're going to learn the *fun* way that you need minions, no matter how rich you are, and eventually they'll run out or sell you out.
KatInTheCorner
That's the thing, they aren't capitalism. If capitalism runs by itself, it eats itself whole and it descends into fascism every single time.
If socialism runs by itself, it continues to work. Unions are literally socialism.
So the only way to have any type of capitalist ventures in a country is for that country to be socialist and allow certain aspects of private property to work in very specific conditions.
KatInTheCorner
Capitalism is about private property, an owning class and a working class. That is why they are called capitalists. They are the ones who own the capital, the buildings, the machines.
Not trying to be glad by posting a infographic, it just explains it more succinctly than I could
executivedisfunction
Again, no sauce. Name of judge, court, posted abstract??
zzz777
It's literally in the first line, yes it's cut out but it's more than enough to Google it: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/17/business/medical-debt-credit-reports-ruling.html
SicklyAlbatross
Yes, but that's the first step. You're making labor for your debtor's prison camps. To go along with your camps for minorities, political dissidents, and the homeless.
CptTacolicious
I wonder what they'll do, when it's just them left
METROlD
Eventually the people will rise up and take the power back. Happens every time. Were just currently in the most dark and shitty part of that arc. We are way past the levels of economic inequality they had in the French revolution. ust keep pushing though, and eventually people will snap and start ripping peoples arms off.
blzrdphoto
Obviously they will bask in the glory knowing that they are better than everyone else… as they starve on their billion dollar yacht that ran out of fuel. The American dream!
parabolic000
There'll always be resource inequality, non-neurotypical people, and queer people. Once those are winnowed down enough, their definitions of "us" will grow increasingly byzantine and nonsensical. I'll say this: at least Hitler's grand view for Nazi Germany was up front about the fact that it'd be eternal warfare and purgation, a constant state of trial by ordeal and pogroms to purify and strengthen the Aryan race. Babylon 5 had a good episode about this: what is essentially a Berserker probe-
parabolic000
comes to the station and starts killing people. They learn that it was programmed by extremists of an alien race who were obsessed with purity, and whose varied and contradictory directives ensured that no-one would fit its definition of 'pure [alien race name]' and genocided its creators. For a modern example, the White House definition of sex "(d) “Female” means a person belonging, at conception, to the sex that produces the large reproductive cell." would make this robot kill every single
parabolic000
human that calls itself male, because at the outset, embryos develop female until they start producing androgens. In fact, since the embryo does not produce gametes, and since this definition of sex is so circular, it'd probably kill every single human that was ever an embryo--all of us--and then probably all sexually-reproducing species. This, btw, was their key to defeating it: prove to the AI that it also doesn't match its directive's purity goal, and watch it turn on itself.
Alesdair
Prison/labor camps for the poor. Effectively, chattel slavery with extra steps. Eventually, they pass a law that saddles children with their parents’ debts.
darkdragonempress
I’m pretty sure they genuinely don’t think it could possibly get to that. They think they will get little fiefdoms and be able to rule over them. I don’t think they actually understand how much the framework of society actually supports them.
CptTacolicious
I hope I get to watch them starve, trying to make their own food
jumpbus360
"Them" and "they" will just become a smaller and smaller group until they are turning on each other. Except Old White Men with money. "They" are the exceptions.
DukeDarkwood
And once those are all that's left, it's a free-for-all scramble over whatever they have left, now that there's no infrastructure.
fantabuloustimewaster
"And the animals looked from the pigs to the men, and from the men to the pigs, and couldn't tell which was which."
(A paraphrase; I don't have my copy handy.)
Nebel01
old white men with money fight each other all the time, they just benefit more from making us fight each others
GigglingWordBearer
Outsource.
saturatedcottonballs
They'll flee to another developed country and wreck that one too. Like rats flee a sinking ship
darkdragonempress
The flaw in that plan is it took decades of destruction and resistance to get to this point in the US. Other countries are watching. And most won’t be willing to accept that fate.
CptTacolicious
The other (and imo biggest) flaw I see is; what happens when there are no counties left? Their short sightedness is worrying.
TheForgewright
Yeah, but you see Q2 will be record breaking, just like Q1 and Q4 of last year!
CptTacolicious
wont someone please think about the shareholders??!?!??!