Jun 2, 2020 10:07 PM
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zangmangg
Stupid ass rioters and looters ???
DannyDoggo
Thanks a lot looters. You just took your support for justice down 200 points.
Wolfiewashere20
No Respect for their own community!
Hamfistham
Someone employ that plywood! Sorry, im trash
85HH
Country was already hitting a huge recession.... but people so bright that... we’ll you know the rest
attorneydave
And Trump just gained a few more votes...
plainoldusername
Total wireless and a metro pcs next door? Is there a boost mobile across the street too?
Hatchtastic
Just protest peaceful,show the cops that we can handle ourselves and show respect and humility to our neighbors. Riot cops won't be required
blainetog
Doesn't matter, riot cops are rolling up to peaceful protests and firing weapons at everyone. They're shooting people ON THEIR OWN PORCHES.
1Kodey1
RangoMarbleSmasher
Anyone know where this is?
Ooklaplotz
Looks like Downtown Kansas City
averageguy1234
I am not certain but it looks similar to the pictures in Nashville. Chain stores though so hard to tell.
MapleMaple
Some 3rd world country
This is in northeast philly
EspressoBiz
Happening everywhere
Malikhi
Unfortunately it could be so many places right now
AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs13
This...
BecauseCanadian
Looks like Philly
Stephenfromaustin
6647 Castor Ave, Philadelphia, PA
Damn bro how do you know the exact address I recorded this video?
6647 was on the wall, did a google search for that number and the store names, then did a google street view to confirm
Wow okay lol. You should be a detective.
SethBalmore
Imgur front page.
BIGSHOWTV
Well, maybe private businesses will keep this in mind in NY when they remember Cuomo sided with looters and rioters.
anotherrepost
Similar to recent /current events in Hong Kong, there seem to be quite a few "agent provocateurs" at work to turn peaceful protest into this
Those who make peaceful protest impossible make violent revolution inevitable.
IMainReinhardt
I cant condone the looting. But theft is far greater than the arson. Product is insured but destroying the building puts the people out of
Work. When you do that you use the loss of one man's life to ruin another. I can't speak for the Dead, but if it were me I wouldn't want my
Name invoked in such a way that ruins the lives of countless people who had nothing to do with it.
Fire, destruction, and death do not honor the Dead. It only makes the living look worse.
Renza0
dont forget, its very plausible that people are being deliberately sent to these protests to cause damage, to try and discredit the movement
Zeuski
If it were one or two protests maybe, but 21 cities? It's probably completely organic violence
I think its unlikely to be completely one or the other. theres no doubt organic violence, theres just probably artificial events too.
fredh67
It's possible, and likely in some cases; it's largely more likely that it's not. I've seen a lot of so-called peaceful protesters not
oh yeah, there will pretty much always be cases of organic violence from large groups sooner or later, human nature there.
just saying theres a good chance of artificially generated events thrown in as well
eliciting the physical response they were trying to get by verbally abusing LEOs throw water bottles and rocks, and there ARE a lot of /
scummy people who will take advantage of any excuse to justify stealing stuff. It happens every single time.
UserSubHunterOfIndeterminateGender
terribletruth
Bru local small businesses have been looted, businesses often started by the same population. The rioters are destroying their own community
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
The rioters are almost never in their own communities.
cbale2000
If the message were really a "screw you" the looters would be destroying the merch, rather than taking it home with them.
Think about how different the message the Boston Tea Party sent would be if they had stolen the tea rather than dumping it.
Pseudobatrachotoxin
I wish I could favorite a comment.
thisnameisntfunny
Fun fact: Boston Tea Party wasn't about high taxes on Tea. It was because England *lowered* the taxes on East India Company tea. 1/?
American businessmen couldn't compete with the lower prices. They dumped it because they wanted it off the market. 2/2
DogBrick
Would it be illegal to sit inside a shop with a gun and shoot at invaders? UK guy here.
ragazzasporca
Stop protesting maybe? Shit has been jacked and no one is talking about George or Breonna anymore. Stop giving the riots a stage.
VWGirl
Destroying business isn't hurting the cops it's hurting your neighbors and family. Most of these businesses won't reopen.
Why would you loot cell phone stores? Aren't the phones locked to the network, and wouldn't you be able to block the phone by ESN number?
Domehammer
"How could the protestors do this." -Media that refuses to distinguish rioters and protestors.
Acidmonk
Where I live protesters didn't start gathering until 1 hour before curfew. Try and spin how that is going to end peacefully ~Hint its not.
There are a lot of "peaceful" protesters standing inches away from LEOs and screaming in their faces, trying to evoke a response. I won't /
agree that a physical response is appropriate, but people shouldn't be surprised when they manage to evoke that response. There's still a /
lot of really bad LEOs out there screwing with peaceful protesters, but there's bad actors on both sides.
Lowestscoreever
Someone posted here earlier - let's keep protesters and looters separate. There was an LA protest, but also an LA riot. Same this time.
beaglefeatures
Why haven't we done better?
polycarp
It's not justice, but it's going to keep happening until we have justice.
NotThatPrivate
Welcome to unemployment, you are probably safer at home from Covid
Hybris51129
This is how you turn people bit by bit against your cause. They will remember this long after they forget who Floyd was.
sdrawkcabmIpleH
I guess it wasn't these looters' cause. Some just like being jerks using whatever excuse.
RavenHellfire
Again, the rioters are doing this all wrong, don't wreck some poor guys business, go wreck the police stations
Variadicism
The media is already twisting this to look as violent a protest as possible. Trump threatens military action. Don't give them more ammo.
All I'm saying is if your going to wreck shit, don't hurt the innocent, hurt the ones at fault.
TCGView
Putin is sitting on a couch somewhere laughing his ass off. He got exactly what he wanted.
Cyberpope67
not Putin -- Putin is being Pwned, too.
Axtt
Sure, Putin did it. Some people still living in yesterday.
Fourhorns23
Sadly, people like Putin always want more.
Markamanic
As a EU citizen, I've been munching popcorn since 2016
xxbiohazrdxx
dang Putin traveled back in time to 1776 and made us be insanely racist for over 200 years? crazy how he do that
LjubljanaJeNajlepseMestoNaSvetu
Yeah, pudin did this, helped with the internaional jewish conspitacy ans Soros and 5G...
Putin killed Eppstein too! ?
Clayman8
It was you guys that elected an incompetent idiot manchild to lead you "great country" last time i checked...
McDongpants
I mean, even though you're probably a Russian spy, I can't disagree with your statement. Take your upvote and leave!
Ill leave. Next door. Be good or we'll send you to Glorious Gulag to fight bears.
CanadianEngineer
By the unpopular vote in an election in which Russian interference has been confirmed. Idk seems like they had a plan and it’s working to me
Goldensands
Eh you still has every possibility to not let it happen. I see this and other deflections all the time and I suppose I can’t blame you.
Even if we did intervene, doesnt that just show furthermore how fucked up the US system is? I think it perfectly pushes the enveloppe
balloonlord
I think Every country but America had things to gain by Trump being president. The eventual choice was by thé american People.
It's not like his incompitence was hiden at all
Pentjotal
Sevenfold
FunctioningWorkaholic
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fridgy4lyfe
What do you mean by this?
TeenageMutantNinjaAbortedFetuses
Putin helped Trump get elected to destabilize the West. Which is something he’s tried to do for decades. Trump has accomplished that for him
myrddin35
What exactly did he do? Put a knee on the Black guy's neck or destroyed this poor man's shop?
rooik14
Assisted in Trump getting elected.
What does Putin gain by this? Genuinely curious.
There’s tons of articles and scholarly journals about it. Too complex for limited char space. He’s always thrived to destabilize the West /2
And Europe. The simplest of reasons goes back to 1989 Russia lost a lot of their footprint in other European countries after imposing their
forkstuckinthebrain
USA citizens voted, USA citizens got what they voted for, no more no less
USA citizens were misled by Russian agents pretending to be US citizens. Disinformation campaigns were done.
There might be truth in that, but could it be done on such large scale? I thought about our friend G Carlin https://youtu.be/xIraCchPDhk
ineverwantedtodothis
Wow. If someone can manipulate you into thinking trump is anything but a fucking moron maybe the citizens are the problem
slinkydust
They're probably next. They have been shitting on free speech and LGBT for years
Soufange
I wouldn't bet on it. That's the land of a million soldiers sharing 500,000 guns.
Dillweed125
Trump didn’t kill Floyd. He had an investigation initiated almost immediately.
CmdrFireHawk
Yes, everything bad happening is Russia. China pushing into the south China Sea, Russia. Venezuela attacking a civilian boat, Russia.
kelpsie
"This is a desirable outcome for Putin" != "Putin caused this outcome"
Ok I give you that, but China is a much bigger threat than anything else.
Bad cops being bad, Russia. Drug cartels killing people and selling drugs to kids, Russia. We're not in the cold war anymore.
Shitty people are shitty. That is it.
SVcross
I dropped my sandwich today.
Sorry to hear that. I lost a full cup of tea. I feel your pain.
I never said Russia was the cause of all this. I simply stated that this is what Putin wanted.
ElectricStormCat
Come on, get it right. Everything bad happening is either Russia OR China. Or both.
Nah, mostly China. Russia is there but like a 70/30 thing right now. Also I was trashing the comment that I replied to.
Russia is doing stuff, but more local and internal. They don't give a shit about us. Right now at least. China is actively being a threat.
I was being mostly fasci..fa..silly. Mostly. I can't spell.
Sentrik27
There is no evidence that China and Venezuela’s problems are a result of Russian interference. The links between Trump and Russia are (1/2)
I know, I was making fun of the person saying that Russia is causing the problem. Sorry for the confusion
Clearly evidenced. These examples are entirely your addition and add little to no weight to your argument and only show you as paranoid.
PickleMeElmoooo
Clearly evidenced? Looooooolz. I must have missed that part of the Muller report. Maybe I was distracted by the FISA court violations
Poopette
For the detractors, this has been corroborated by Senate intelligence. Google "Russian detractors" there are a free pdfs of findings.
Fractoman
Clearly evidenced by what? Obama had the FBI spend 6 months investigating this issue and they found nothing.
jonlememe
I think we are only referring to electing a half-wit to the White House here?
No the conspiracy that everything that goes wrong is Russia. They are the bad guys forever. Unless it's your political opponent.
TemetNosce000
Yes. A normal US President would've held those countries accountable. They are taking risks now bc they know trump won't do anything.
Because the Dem go against anything he says and gives no alternatives. Ive been Dem my whole life until the orange man bad stuff started. /1
This has nothing to do with what I said
Sorry. Let me clarify. I think he would but is unable due to Dems resisting everything he wants to do. My apologizes.
Now I'm independent. The party left me for insanity. I hate him as a person, but I was making mad money due to the economy.
LukeBeGod
You mean Soros?
thisisntverybritish
You're an antisemite. You think your life is crap because there's a conspiracy against you, but actually it's because you're shit
Oh sorry, I meant Bill Gates.
Rhulain
Sure is weird how you cant do ANYTHING evil unless you're a christian white. Jewish people OBVIOUSLY are golden Angels who are incapable
of crime in any way! Get real dude. People hating Soros has NOTHING to do with him being a jew and everything to do with him being
a disgusting man who will literally do anything to make money.
ThailandExpress
If you have a problem telling looters from protesters, you must think bad cops are just misunderstood
in70x
Perfect analogy
jjm152
You should inform your national media. According to them everyone is just a poor innocent punching bag for the cops.
gbuck55
Don’t be stupid on purpose. If it comes natural, I’m sorry. But do try not to make it so obvious.
BetterKnownAsJasonDarket
I'm pretty sure what you tried to say was that it's easy to identify looters and bad cops. It seems that's not what other people read.
isthatgoodicanttell
lmao braindead take
qtip1342
How
PubstarHero
I had to get off of FB because 90% of my friends are saying the looting and rioting is OK, and the destruction of business is >
> a good thing as it will bring more eyes to the cause. Granted these are a bunch of white kids from the burbs.
I understand where you’re coming from. But you can’t judge the protests based on a few bad apples. Not everyone is looting most are peaceful
~It's all in the name of justice~ Right up until they start breaking out the windows where you live.
Alarmingechochamberechoecho365
I live right by Barclays in nyc no one is trying to force their way into my apt or anyone else’s but there is talk of going to the suburbs ?
Well I sure hope they don't.
nobodygottimeforusernames
Annnnd... That's ok?
SapphireFoxcore
1You say this like the looters are wearing red and the protesters are wearing blue. They dress similar, claim to be there for the same thing
2The sad thing is the people getting looted associated the looters and protesters as being on the same side
KinetoPlay
North Korea says it's a democracy and the KKK says it's a Christian organization. Who cares what they call themselves? They're different.
MrZev
KKK are. They have racist views like other churches believe gay people shouldn't get married. All churches were racist here at some point.
In a sense KKK never progressed like some churches never progressed about gay marriage. White only churches were a thing.
No one's denying that. If two partners claim they're both vegan, how do we know one isn't faking it to date the real vegan?
Sekai
In this case it's quite visibly obvious and usually being recorded hundreds of times over, whether or not an individual is peacefully
My friend did it for a girl. He is a vegan now. They got married and have a kid. I'm happy for him.
Why the fuck should anyone but their partner care if either of them are vegan?
BewilderedOne
Read other responses here. Many of them are advocating violence as a solution blurring the lines between protesters and looter/rioter
FrogNamedKitty
I'm even seeing far left friends bashing MLK because "peaceful protest didn't work; things barely changed" and rioting is only way forward.
Can confirm. My friend who is typically level headed is advocating rioting and looting because "Peaceful protest didnt work"
0plus1plus0
And they are wrong.
Siege223
Are they though? Years of peaceful protests, and what do we really have to show for it? The same damned issues.
LocalZoophile
Everyone sane will agree that friendly fire is bad. How about target the folks whose policies you want changed and not supporters?
Oh I agree entirely, but at this point, no-one is leading these people. They're just free to do as they will, and obviously, that's bad.
OvergrownDwarf
That's becz some of them think raising awareness won't change anything. Its like a kid who screams but the moment parents dnt care they ...
That's a good point--rioting will indeed bring attention to the cause, but it doesn't mean everyone will submit to your tantrum.
Start breaking shit to get their attention. Interesting to c hw this will pan out in long term if that's the approach they think will work
bekkayya
yeah except the kid has been bleeding out and pleading with their abusive parent to take them to the hospital.
tbh all yall are so fucking quick to morally impune the rioters destruction but sleep sound while people are murdered for their skin.
Jarilye
Not advocating violence, but from sociological standpoint, if you exhaust legitimate channels of change to no effect, 1/2
The nest logical step for most folks is to utilize the illegitimate channels.
If they dnt hv a clear leader and goal and unified message consistently this may lose momentum.
..and ultimately the US economy will be affected more post COVID job losses.. People forget so easily..COVId is getting forgotten, next this
Eddyrock
OneDollaHolla
Not this you fucking idiot
tbomber
Sanctimonious drivel. Youre not even aknowledging that looters and protesters are different...just greenlighting looting.
wylwrk
Ohhh I dunno, how about if you are gonna destroy something you destroy the things that belongs to the people you're mad at.
ChaosScythe
Ah yes, burning your neighborhood down and looting your buddies store. Best way to send a message your throwing a tantrum
Silnt39
Research something that happened a while back..I think they referred to it as a civil war.
Maybebetus
Human decency, you are hurting people that support your cause making many think about why they should support you when this is the result.
americansaltine7365
Your rhetorical question is supplanted by another: Do you have the stones for it?
ajizzle
attack the cops head on
codnuggets
This whole crisis is a confluence of events that has caused people to lose their ever loving minds. Climate change, pandemic, 25%¹
Unemployment, racial inequality, and corporate greed that leaves people with no hope. George Floyd is the catalyst for this explosion.
And it's pathetic that we little people (cops included) are being divided vs united by politicians and corporations. We need some¹
Proletariat vs bourgeoisie shit right now.
TheShiv0724
TheFeralDog
The notion wide protests like this have not been tried. And the folks committing violence do not give a single fuck about Floyd
mkelter
American Revolution 2
ImJustaDudePlayingAnotherDude
Ladies and gentlemen the dumbass of the week right here
ramarins
The US is experiencing what other "shithole" countries go through, while the US would call us, well, a shithole for it.
KrakedUp
https://s3.amazonaws.com/v.comb.io/8aJjurRN/axbm4v.mp4
Have you considered massive crowd funded lawsuits? Target the cities and police in their wallets where it hurts them most.
JaceCameron
I dunno. Get into the system and change it from the inside?
DildoRodeo
Destroying small businesses is the clear next step.
maijen0062000
Weren't most of these people out of work due to the Coronavirus lockdown?
RedLanternGrodd
Ghetro PCS is "essential"
aahoss
Maybe violence against the oppressive government and not innocent civilians...
Doc070
My government doesn't oppress me. Hasn't ever actually.
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TossABabyYodaToYourWitcher
They're a year old but definitely a troll
TwistedLizard
Oppressive Governments fight back and bolt their shit down so I can't fit it into my pick-up. Gotta hit those soft targets man /s
Klingon00
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It is also social contract theory. If the state is not upholding its end of social contract then the citizens are not obligated to hold -
- up their end of social contract. While all humans are obligated to act morally to their fellow man, the rules of society are falling apart
- and it is not the people who are the problem.
bloodydingo
Society treats people like animals for years them clutches pearls when they bite.
That's just rhetoric that your dispensing. Try some facts. With sauce.
Well there was this cop recently that knelt on a man's neck until he was dead as he begged for his life.
Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_George_Floyd
GemsAreOutrageousTrulyTrulyTrulyOutrageous
Not fucking damaging & looting private property that has nothing to do with your movement of social and racial equality, perhaps?
ImSorryThatWasReallyRudeOfMePleaseForgiveMe
Right?? If only they would just peacefully protest, then you might support their cau...ohhh. Right. They tried that.
wiltsjunk
How about everybody fucking votes. Voter turnout on dem side, especially local elections, is fucking abysmal. Maybe try that before looting?
It’s almost like the Dems do everything they can to suppress voter turn out. Oh wait, that’s the Republicans. Never mind.
Sure, but regardless of that, millions and millions of registered dems don't vote, if they did we wouldn't have Trump today.
Unix347
Cause they have to work the minimum wage jobs while retired baby boomers have nothing to do but vote. Also Trump lost the popular vote dude
Not in the swing states he didn't. And the polls are open like 13 hours, dont give me that they're working so they can't vote.
YourMomsSidePiece
Instead on vilifying the police, join your local police force & that way you can be the type of cop you want to see.
Rijtjeshuis
... what if I already have a job?
I've heard you're allowed to quit your job and get a different job whenever you like.
samwyze
The police are vilifying themselves. Where are the "good" cops? Aren't THEY supposed to be doing that?
TheHorseShesElbowDeepIn
That's like enlisting in the military in order to change military policy. The problems appear to be at the top, not the bottom.
You can't complain about cops not being from the community if members of the community won't join the police. Can't have it both ways.
Itsonporpoise
Don’t like to pay airline fees? become a pilot. Don’t like the law? Become a judge. You see why this is ridiculous right? 1/2
2/2 ppl are entitled to fair treatment and protection under the law while having a different job.
Well that's a ridiculous non-seqitur. Police pay amazingly well. Lack of people joining isn't a problem. Holding them accountable is.
It is a problem if you want the police to reflect the community they patrol.
https://m.startribune.com/despite-wave-of-retirements-mpls-police-struggle-to-hire-diverse-force/271772331/
SmolTenk
... right, because the police that has been discriminating against them is going to welcome them with open arms...
So your answer is to let someone else do the hard work of changing things. Fantastic.
... Lay it out for me then: How are you going to join a police department that keeps refusing your application?
You mean like Minneapolis? https://www.minnpost.com/cityscape/2016/07/hiring-diverse-police-force-its-easier-said-done/
You're ignoring the war on minority voting that has been waged throughout history.
That's bull shit. Minorites have had just as much access to voting as anybody in the last 60 years. Your propagating a myth. With no facts.
Facts: https://lmgtfy.com/?q=voter+suppression+targeting+minorities&s=l
Well after looking at the first sauce, which comes from my favorite leftist, government subsidized, news organizations, I'm sure it's true.
AssDewlap
The systemic disenfranchisment of black voters has made it increasingly difficult for blacks to vote. In the recent WI primary election 1/
Republicans refused to delay the election despite covid. As a result, the predominantly black county of Milwaukee had only 5 polling 2/
This is not what happened at all. You need to do some more research. Republicans didn't control the election.
You get awful quiet when people post sources there doc
Sites compared to it's normal 180. Source next 3/
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/04/09/wisconsin-election-milwaukee-had-5-voting-sites-while-madison-had-66/29705
delacruzzz
You not willing to see the progress. Police killing were going down each year. Convictions were going down. There are less racists
MyBubbles
More racist understanding that technology will get them in trouble. Have to be sneaker now.
Apparently not
Yeah there's less but just 1 is a tragedy
Behl26
Going down... So how many is acceptable each year until people should be complacent?
what's the acceptable number of innocents murdered by rioters untill George floyd is 'avenged'?
zero. I dont know why you would suggest it to be anything but.
punknoodles0
What is the acceptable number of jobs lost for a lockdown over a flu?
kojenk
Standing atop a pile of corpses 100k tall and growing
Triflow
Uhhh, Where do you find these "facts"?
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/fsd0512.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjS3O-ymOTpAhVHB50JHZT6CaMQFj
"Federal Sentencing Disparity: 2005–2012" I don't think you realize that this doesn't exactly support your claim.... lol
https://www.statista.com/statistics/191261/number-of-arrests-for-all-offenses-in-the-us-since-1990/ and that one shows the total imprisonmen
https://www.prisonpolicy.org/research/race_and_ethnicity/
You see the down word trend? That was the progress during those protest
Violence against violence is not the answer
EmpressOfBotany
Damaging property is not violence. Harming people is violence.
BonkVEVO
Sometimes violence is the only language some people will listen to.
Mr920
"Violence is not the only answer. But it is the final answer." - I am quoting here, attack the quote not me.
LookingForWorkInColorado
I mean it might be. Pacifism hasn't worked.
SpaceballsTheComment
Violence begets violence. You don't like it, I don't like it, but that's the way it goes, until there is some real change.
stink3rbelle
Except when the police do it, right?
antithesiscontrarian
Agreed, this is for the police and politicians to hear, they need to get out of their holes and start drafting bills and making statements
Yondering
It certainly can be the answer. But violence against the community instead of focused on the problem is not the answer.
Still, violence and even words against all police isn’t right either. The focus should be on the bad few PEOPLE, not an entire group.
BaronSpaghetti
Yet anger gets shit done.
ColdRice
I agree, but sometimes violence does need to be met with violence. There is a time and place. This is definitely not one of them.
myeyesthegogglesdonothing
Violence against innocent people like what's happening now? Absolutely fucking not.
Like i said, this is not the time. And i was clearly referring to violence against violence. Don’t know where you got your question from
Ghadi fucked little kids while collaborating with the British government. He said the same thing.
Wow way to go being utterly wrong. He actually advocated violence when all peaceful efforts proved not to be fruitful
Wow, someone knows nothing about history, and sure whats to make sure everyone knows! Nice bud!
"It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of nonviolence to cover impotence. /1
Pinyateh
Im sure hitler said some good military strategies in all the bad ones he used but you don’t see us negating the good strategies Bad argument
What does that even mean dude? If you knew anything about hitler youd know he said:
if our adversaries had understood its principle, established a clear understanding of our ideas, and not offered any resistance. 1/2
KittyEmpress
Violence is the only answer. Every revolution has involved violence or threat of it.
DeusExSpockina
Peacefulness in the face of relentless violence only works if those you oppose have shame. Otherwise they will not stop.
LokiShinigami
I don't know, Hiroshima and Nagasaki while tragic, got the point across pretty damn quick.
ekzeko
https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/05/30/the-bomb-didnt-beat-japan-stalin-did/ This article messed with me hard
JamJarre
It's pretty much the only thing that works when the violence you oppose is backed by the system.
People out here trying to apply playground bully rules to institutional racism
Stop trying to make this a racism thing. It’s NOT. It’s a bad cop thing. Making it racial distracts from the real problem and makes it worse
The bad cops are racists retard
schizznatt
It IS a racial thing. Saying it's not is dismissing decades of pain and suffering. Is police brutality a problem for everyone? Of course.
brakiachi
Violence started America, ended slavery, and got civil rights....
There's also Stonewall. And some absolutely bonkers civil disobedience to get the Americans with Disabilities Act passed
Gababu
yup, however the LA riots already tried to solve this current problem with violence and it didn't go away.
Zyrixion
Also all of our workplace rights/conditions. People were dragged out and executed in the streets to get those
attylloyd
and ended WW2
Surrender ended WW2. I'm not saying the violence against invasions is pointless but without it there hadn't be any war in the first place.
jasgstock
That violence however was directed at the actual perps. It wasn't random. That's the key difference.
You say random, I say pushing back at a systemic problem after decades of trying to "do it the right way" and being ignored
Think of it this way - rage-slapping one kid because the *other* kid was bad. That's exactly what this is. Being mad doesn't give you the
I'm pretty sure a lot of collateral damage was caused during all those events. It's just not the focus in the history books.
These stores are not collateral damage though. They are literally the target of the looters; and they are US. It would be like ..
zangmangg
Stupid ass rioters and looters ???
DannyDoggo
Thanks a lot looters. You just took your support for justice down 200 points.
Wolfiewashere20
No Respect for their own community!
Hamfistham
Someone employ that plywood! Sorry, im trash
85HH
Country was already hitting a huge recession.... but people so bright that... we’ll you know the rest
attorneydave
And Trump just gained a few more votes...
plainoldusername
Total wireless and a metro pcs next door? Is there a boost mobile across the street too?
Hatchtastic
Just protest peaceful,show the cops that we can handle ourselves and show respect and humility to our neighbors. Riot cops won't be required
blainetog
Doesn't matter, riot cops are rolling up to peaceful protests and firing weapons at everyone. They're shooting people ON THEIR OWN PORCHES.
1Kodey1
RangoMarbleSmasher
Anyone know where this is?
Ooklaplotz
Looks like Downtown Kansas City
averageguy1234
I am not certain but it looks similar to the pictures in Nashville. Chain stores though so hard to tell.
MapleMaple
Some 3rd world country
Sally101cat
This is in northeast philly
EspressoBiz
Happening everywhere
Malikhi
Unfortunately it could be so many places right now
AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs13
This...
BecauseCanadian
Looks like Philly
Stephenfromaustin
6647 Castor Ave, Philadelphia, PA
Sally101cat
Damn bro how do you know the exact address I recorded this video?
Stephenfromaustin
6647 was on the wall, did a google search for that number and the store names, then did a google street view to confirm
Sally101cat
Wow okay lol. You should be a detective.
SethBalmore
Imgur front page.
BIGSHOWTV
Well, maybe private businesses will keep this in mind in NY when they remember Cuomo sided with looters and rioters.
anotherrepost
Similar to recent /current events in Hong Kong, there seem to be quite a few "agent provocateurs" at work to turn peaceful protest into this
blainetog
Those who make peaceful protest impossible make violent revolution inevitable.
IMainReinhardt
I cant condone the looting. But theft is far greater than the arson. Product is insured but destroying the building puts the people out of
IMainReinhardt
Work. When you do that you use the loss of one man's life to ruin another. I can't speak for the Dead, but if it were me I wouldn't want my
IMainReinhardt
Name invoked in such a way that ruins the lives of countless people who had nothing to do with it.
IMainReinhardt
Fire, destruction, and death do not honor the Dead. It only makes the living look worse.
Renza0
dont forget, its very plausible that people are being deliberately sent to these protests to cause damage, to try and discredit the movement
Zeuski
If it were one or two protests maybe, but 21 cities? It's probably completely organic violence
Renza0
I think its unlikely to be completely one or the other. theres no doubt organic violence, theres just probably artificial events too.
fredh67
It's possible, and likely in some cases; it's largely more likely that it's not. I've seen a lot of so-called peaceful protesters not
Renza0
oh yeah, there will pretty much always be cases of organic violence from large groups sooner or later, human nature there.
Renza0
just saying theres a good chance of artificially generated events thrown in as well
fredh67
eliciting the physical response they were trying to get by verbally abusing LEOs throw water bottles and rocks, and there ARE a lot of /
fredh67
scummy people who will take advantage of any excuse to justify stealing stuff. It happens every single time.
UserSubHunterOfIndeterminateGender
terribletruth
Bru local small businesses have been looted, businesses often started by the same population. The rioters are destroying their own community
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
The rioters are almost never in their own communities.
cbale2000
If the message were really a "screw you" the looters would be destroying the merch, rather than taking it home with them.
cbale2000
Think about how different the message the Boston Tea Party sent would be if they had stolen the tea rather than dumping it.
Pseudobatrachotoxin
I wish I could favorite a comment.
thisnameisntfunny
Fun fact: Boston Tea Party wasn't about high taxes on Tea. It was because England *lowered* the taxes on East India Company tea. 1/?
thisnameisntfunny
American businessmen couldn't compete with the lower prices. They dumped it because they wanted it off the market. 2/2
DogBrick
Would it be illegal to sit inside a shop with a gun and shoot at invaders? UK guy here.
ragazzasporca
Stop protesting maybe? Shit has been jacked and no one is talking about George or Breonna anymore. Stop giving the riots a stage.
VWGirl
Destroying business isn't hurting the cops it's hurting your neighbors and family. Most of these businesses won't reopen.
attorneydave
Why would you loot cell phone stores? Aren't the phones locked to the network, and wouldn't you be able to block the phone by ESN number?
Domehammer
"How could the protestors do this." -Media that refuses to distinguish rioters and protestors.
Acidmonk
Where I live protesters didn't start gathering until 1 hour before curfew. Try and spin how that is going to end peacefully ~Hint its not.
fredh67
There are a lot of "peaceful" protesters standing inches away from LEOs and screaming in their faces, trying to evoke a response. I won't /
fredh67
agree that a physical response is appropriate, but people shouldn't be surprised when they manage to evoke that response. There's still a /
fredh67
lot of really bad LEOs out there screwing with peaceful protesters, but there's bad actors on both sides.
Lowestscoreever
Someone posted here earlier - let's keep protesters and looters separate. There was an LA protest, but also an LA riot. Same this time.
beaglefeatures
Why haven't we done better?
polycarp
It's not justice, but it's going to keep happening until we have justice.
NotThatPrivate
Welcome to unemployment, you are probably safer at home from Covid
Hybris51129
This is how you turn people bit by bit against your cause. They will remember this long after they forget who Floyd was.
sdrawkcabmIpleH
I guess it wasn't these looters' cause. Some just like being jerks using whatever excuse.
RavenHellfire
Again, the rioters are doing this all wrong, don't wreck some poor guys business, go wreck the police stations
Variadicism
The media is already twisting this to look as violent a protest as possible. Trump threatens military action. Don't give them more ammo.
RavenHellfire
All I'm saying is if your going to wreck shit, don't hurt the innocent, hurt the ones at fault.
TCGView
Putin is sitting on a couch somewhere laughing his ass off. He got exactly what he wanted.
Cyberpope67
not Putin -- Putin is being Pwned, too.
Axtt
Sure, Putin did it. Some people still living in yesterday.
Fourhorns23
Sadly, people like Putin always want more.
Markamanic
As a EU citizen, I've been munching popcorn since 2016
xxbiohazrdxx
dang Putin traveled back in time to 1776 and made us be insanely racist for over 200 years? crazy how he do that
LjubljanaJeNajlepseMestoNaSvetu
Yeah, pudin did this, helped with the internaional jewish conspitacy ans Soros and 5G...
Axtt
Putin killed Eppstein too! ?
Clayman8
It was you guys that elected an incompetent idiot manchild to lead you "great country" last time i checked...
McDongpants
I mean, even though you're probably a Russian spy, I can't disagree with your statement. Take your upvote and leave!
Clayman8
Ill leave. Next door. Be good or we'll send you to Glorious Gulag to fight bears.
CanadianEngineer
By the unpopular vote in an election in which Russian interference has been confirmed. Idk seems like they had a plan and it’s working to me
Goldensands
Eh you still has every possibility to not let it happen. I see this and other deflections all the time and I suppose I can’t blame you.
Clayman8
Even if we did intervene, doesnt that just show furthermore how fucked up the US system is? I think it perfectly pushes the enveloppe
balloonlord
I think Every country but America had things to gain by Trump being president. The eventual choice was by thé american People.
balloonlord
It's not like his incompitence was hiden at all
Pentjotal
Sevenfold
FunctioningWorkaholic
fridgy4lyfe
What do you mean by this?
TeenageMutantNinjaAbortedFetuses
Putin helped Trump get elected to destabilize the West. Which is something he’s tried to do for decades. Trump has accomplished that for him
myrddin35
What exactly did he do? Put a knee on the Black guy's neck or destroyed this poor man's shop?
rooik14
Assisted in Trump getting elected.
fridgy4lyfe
What does Putin gain by this? Genuinely curious.
TeenageMutantNinjaAbortedFetuses
There’s tons of articles and scholarly journals about it. Too complex for limited char space. He’s always thrived to destabilize the West /2
TeenageMutantNinjaAbortedFetuses
And Europe. The simplest of reasons goes back to 1989 Russia lost a lot of their footprint in other European countries after imposing their
forkstuckinthebrain
USA citizens voted, USA citizens got what they voted for, no more no less
rooik14
USA citizens were misled by Russian agents pretending to be US citizens. Disinformation campaigns were done.
forkstuckinthebrain
There might be truth in that, but could it be done on such large scale? I thought about our friend G Carlin https://youtu.be/xIraCchPDhk
ineverwantedtodothis
Wow. If someone can manipulate you into thinking trump is anything but a fucking moron maybe the citizens are the problem
slinkydust
They're probably next. They have been shitting on free speech and LGBT for years
Soufange
I wouldn't bet on it. That's the land of a million soldiers sharing 500,000 guns.
Dillweed125
Trump didn’t kill Floyd. He had an investigation initiated almost immediately.
CmdrFireHawk
Yes, everything bad happening is Russia. China pushing into the south China Sea, Russia. Venezuela attacking a civilian boat, Russia.
kelpsie
"This is a desirable outcome for Putin" != "Putin caused this outcome"
CmdrFireHawk
Ok I give you that, but China is a much bigger threat than anything else.
CmdrFireHawk
Bad cops being bad, Russia. Drug cartels killing people and selling drugs to kids, Russia. We're not in the cold war anymore.
CmdrFireHawk
Shitty people are shitty. That is it.
SVcross
I dropped my sandwich today.
CmdrFireHawk
Sorry to hear that. I lost a full cup of tea. I feel your pain.
TCGView
I never said Russia was the cause of all this. I simply stated that this is what Putin wanted.
ElectricStormCat
Come on, get it right. Everything bad happening is either Russia OR China. Or both.
CmdrFireHawk
Nah, mostly China. Russia is there but like a 70/30 thing right now. Also I was trashing the comment that I replied to.
CmdrFireHawk
Russia is doing stuff, but more local and internal. They don't give a shit about us. Right now at least. China is actively being a threat.
ElectricStormCat
I was being mostly fasci..fa..silly. Mostly. I can't spell.
Sentrik27
There is no evidence that China and Venezuela’s problems are a result of Russian interference. The links between Trump and Russia are (1/2)
CmdrFireHawk
I know, I was making fun of the person saying that Russia is causing the problem. Sorry for the confusion
Sentrik27
Clearly evidenced. These examples are entirely your addition and add little to no weight to your argument and only show you as paranoid.
PickleMeElmoooo
Clearly evidenced? Looooooolz. I must have missed that part of the Muller report. Maybe I was distracted by the FISA court violations
Poopette
For the detractors, this has been corroborated by Senate intelligence. Google "Russian detractors" there are a free pdfs of findings.
Fractoman
Clearly evidenced by what? Obama had the FBI spend 6 months investigating this issue and they found nothing.
jonlememe
I think we are only referring to electing a half-wit to the White House here?
CmdrFireHawk
No the conspiracy that everything that goes wrong is Russia. They are the bad guys forever. Unless it's your political opponent.
TemetNosce000
Yes. A normal US President would've held those countries accountable. They are taking risks now bc they know trump won't do anything.
CmdrFireHawk
Because the Dem go against anything he says and gives no alternatives. Ive been Dem my whole life until the orange man bad stuff started. /1
TemetNosce000
This has nothing to do with what I said
CmdrFireHawk
Sorry. Let me clarify. I think he would but is unable due to Dems resisting everything he wants to do. My apologizes.
CmdrFireHawk
Now I'm independent. The party left me for insanity. I hate him as a person, but I was making mad money due to the economy.
LukeBeGod
You mean Soros?
thisisntverybritish
You're an antisemite. You think your life is crap because there's a conspiracy against you, but actually it's because you're shit
LukeBeGod
Oh sorry, I meant Bill Gates.
Rhulain
Sure is weird how you cant do ANYTHING evil unless you're a christian white. Jewish people OBVIOUSLY are golden Angels who are incapable
Rhulain
of crime in any way! Get real dude. People hating Soros has NOTHING to do with him being a jew and everything to do with him being
Rhulain
a disgusting man who will literally do anything to make money.
ThailandExpress
If you have a problem telling looters from protesters, you must think bad cops are just misunderstood
in70x
Perfect analogy
jjm152
You should inform your national media. According to them everyone is just a poor innocent punching bag for the cops.
gbuck55
Don’t be stupid on purpose. If it comes natural, I’m sorry. But do try not to make it so obvious.
BetterKnownAsJasonDarket
I'm pretty sure what you tried to say was that it's easy to identify looters and bad cops. It seems that's not what other people read.
isthatgoodicanttell
lmao braindead take
qtip1342
How
PubstarHero
I had to get off of FB because 90% of my friends are saying the looting and rioting is OK, and the destruction of business is >
PubstarHero
> a good thing as it will bring more eyes to the cause. Granted these are a bunch of white kids from the burbs.
qtip1342
I understand where you’re coming from. But you can’t judge the protests based on a few bad apples. Not everyone is looting most are peaceful
Acidmonk
~It's all in the name of justice~ Right up until they start breaking out the windows where you live.
Alarmingechochamberechoecho365
I live right by Barclays in nyc no one is trying to force their way into my apt or anyone else’s but there is talk of going to the suburbs ?
Rhulain
Well I sure hope they don't.
nobodygottimeforusernames
Annnnd... That's ok?
SapphireFoxcore
1You say this like the looters are wearing red and the protesters are wearing blue. They dress similar, claim to be there for the same thing
SapphireFoxcore
2The sad thing is the people getting looted associated the looters and protesters as being on the same side
KinetoPlay
North Korea says it's a democracy and the KKK says it's a Christian organization. Who cares what they call themselves? They're different.
MrZev
KKK are. They have racist views like other churches believe gay people shouldn't get married. All churches were racist here at some point.
MrZev
In a sense KKK never progressed like some churches never progressed about gay marriage. White only churches were a thing.
SapphireFoxcore
No one's denying that. If two partners claim they're both vegan, how do we know one isn't faking it to date the real vegan?
Sekai
In this case it's quite visibly obvious and usually being recorded hundreds of times over, whether or not an individual is peacefully
MrZev
My friend did it for a girl. He is a vegan now. They got married and have a kid. I'm happy for him.
KinetoPlay
Why the fuck should anyone but their partner care if either of them are vegan?
BewilderedOne
Read other responses here. Many of them are advocating violence as a solution blurring the lines between protesters and looter/rioter
FrogNamedKitty
I'm even seeing far left friends bashing MLK because "peaceful protest didn't work; things barely changed" and rioting is only way forward.
PubstarHero
Can confirm. My friend who is typically level headed is advocating rioting and looting because "Peaceful protest didnt work"
0plus1plus0
And they are wrong.
Siege223
Are they though? Years of peaceful protests, and what do we really have to show for it? The same damned issues.
LocalZoophile
Everyone sane will agree that friendly fire is bad. How about target the folks whose policies you want changed and not supporters?
Siege223
Oh I agree entirely, but at this point, no-one is leading these people. They're just free to do as they will, and obviously, that's bad.
OvergrownDwarf
That's becz some of them think raising awareness won't change anything. Its like a kid who screams but the moment parents dnt care they ...
FrogNamedKitty
That's a good point--rioting will indeed bring attention to the cause, but it doesn't mean everyone will submit to your tantrum.
OvergrownDwarf
Start breaking shit to get their attention. Interesting to c hw this will pan out in long term if that's the approach they think will work
bekkayya
yeah except the kid has been bleeding out and pleading with their abusive parent to take them to the hospital.
bekkayya
tbh all yall are so fucking quick to morally impune the rioters destruction but sleep sound while people are murdered for their skin.
Jarilye
Not advocating violence, but from sociological standpoint, if you exhaust legitimate channels of change to no effect, 1/2
Jarilye
The nest logical step for most folks is to utilize the illegitimate channels.
OvergrownDwarf
If they dnt hv a clear leader and goal and unified message consistently this may lose momentum.
OvergrownDwarf
..and ultimately the US economy will be affected more post COVID job losses.. People forget so easily..COVId is getting forgotten, next this
Eddyrock
OneDollaHolla
Not this you fucking idiot
tbomber
Sanctimonious drivel. Youre not even aknowledging that looters and protesters are different...just greenlighting looting.
wylwrk
Ohhh I dunno, how about if you are gonna destroy something you destroy the things that belongs to the people you're mad at.
ChaosScythe
Ah yes, burning your neighborhood down and looting your buddies store. Best way to send a message your throwing a tantrum
Silnt39
Research something that happened a while back..I think they referred to it as a civil war.
Maybebetus
Human decency, you are hurting people that support your cause making many think about why they should support you when this is the result.
americansaltine7365
Your rhetorical question is supplanted by another: Do you have the stones for it?
ajizzle
attack the cops head on
codnuggets
This whole crisis is a confluence of events that has caused people to lose their ever loving minds. Climate change, pandemic, 25%¹
codnuggets
Unemployment, racial inequality, and corporate greed that leaves people with no hope. George Floyd is the catalyst for this explosion.
codnuggets
And it's pathetic that we little people (cops included) are being divided vs united by politicians and corporations. We need some¹
codnuggets
Proletariat vs bourgeoisie shit right now.
TheShiv0724
TheFeralDog
The notion wide protests like this have not been tried. And the folks committing violence do not give a single fuck about Floyd
mkelter
American Revolution 2
ImJustaDudePlayingAnotherDude
Ladies and gentlemen the dumbass of the week right here
ramarins
The US is experiencing what other "shithole" countries go through, while the US would call us, well, a shithole for it.
KrakedUp
https://s3.amazonaws.com/v.comb.io/8aJjurRN/axbm4v.mp4
Hybris51129
Have you considered massive crowd funded lawsuits? Target the cities and police in their wallets where it hurts them most.
JaceCameron
I dunno. Get into the system and change it from the inside?
DildoRodeo
Destroying small businesses is the clear next step.
maijen0062000
Weren't most of these people out of work due to the Coronavirus lockdown?
RedLanternGrodd
Ghetro PCS is "essential"
aahoss
Maybe violence against the oppressive government and not innocent civilians...
Doc070
My government doesn't oppress me. Hasn't ever actually.
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TossABabyYodaToYourWitcher
They're a year old but definitely a troll
TwistedLizard
Oppressive Governments fight back and bolt their shit down so I can't fit it into my pick-up. Gotta hit those soft targets man /s
Klingon00
011100000110100101100101
It is also social contract theory. If the state is not upholding its end of social contract then the citizens are not obligated to hold -
011100000110100101100101
- up their end of social contract. While all humans are obligated to act morally to their fellow man, the rules of society are falling apart
011100000110100101100101
- and it is not the people who are the problem.
bloodydingo
Society treats people like animals for years them clutches pearls when they bite.
Doc070
That's just rhetoric that your dispensing. Try some facts. With sauce.
bloodydingo
Well there was this cop recently that knelt on a man's neck until he was dead as he begged for his life.
bloodydingo
Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_George_Floyd
GemsAreOutrageousTrulyTrulyTrulyOutrageous
Not fucking damaging & looting private property that has nothing to do with your movement of social and racial equality, perhaps?
ImSorryThatWasReallyRudeOfMePleaseForgiveMe
Right?? If only they would just peacefully protest, then you might support their cau...ohhh. Right. They tried that.
wiltsjunk
How about everybody fucking votes. Voter turnout on dem side, especially local elections, is fucking abysmal. Maybe try that before looting?
ImSorryThatWasReallyRudeOfMePleaseForgiveMe
It’s almost like the Dems do everything they can to suppress voter turn out. Oh wait, that’s the Republicans. Never mind.
wiltsjunk
Sure, but regardless of that, millions and millions of registered dems don't vote, if they did we wouldn't have Trump today.
Unix347
Cause they have to work the minimum wage jobs while retired baby boomers have nothing to do but vote. Also Trump lost the popular vote dude
wiltsjunk
Not in the swing states he didn't. And the polls are open like 13 hours, dont give me that they're working so they can't vote.
YourMomsSidePiece
Instead on vilifying the police, join your local police force & that way you can be the type of cop you want to see.
Rijtjeshuis
... what if I already have a job?
YourMomsSidePiece
I've heard you're allowed to quit your job and get a different job whenever you like.
samwyze
The police are vilifying themselves. Where are the "good" cops? Aren't THEY supposed to be doing that?
TheHorseShesElbowDeepIn
That's like enlisting in the military in order to change military policy. The problems appear to be at the top, not the bottom.
YourMomsSidePiece
You can't complain about cops not being from the community if members of the community won't join the police. Can't have it both ways.
Itsonporpoise
Don’t like to pay airline fees? become a pilot. Don’t like the law? Become a judge. You see why this is ridiculous right? 1/2
Itsonporpoise
2/2 ppl are entitled to fair treatment and protection under the law while having a different job.
TheHorseShesElbowDeepIn
Well that's a ridiculous non-seqitur. Police pay amazingly well. Lack of people joining isn't a problem. Holding them accountable is.
YourMomsSidePiece
It is a problem if you want the police to reflect the community they patrol.
YourMomsSidePiece
https://m.startribune.com/despite-wave-of-retirements-mpls-police-struggle-to-hire-diverse-force/271772331/
SmolTenk
... right, because the police that has been discriminating against them is going to welcome them with open arms...
YourMomsSidePiece
So your answer is to let someone else do the hard work of changing things. Fantastic.
SmolTenk
... Lay it out for me then: How are you going to join a police department that keeps refusing your application?
YourMomsSidePiece
You mean like Minneapolis? https://www.minnpost.com/cityscape/2016/07/hiring-diverse-police-force-its-easier-said-done/
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bloodydingo
You're ignoring the war on minority voting that has been waged throughout history.
Doc070
That's bull shit. Minorites have had just as much access to voting as anybody in the last 60 years. Your propagating a myth. With no facts.
bloodydingo
Facts: https://lmgtfy.com/?q=voter+suppression+targeting+minorities&s=l
Doc070
Well after looking at the first sauce, which comes from my favorite leftist, government subsidized, news organizations, I'm sure it's true.
AssDewlap
The systemic disenfranchisment of black voters has made it increasingly difficult for blacks to vote. In the recent WI primary election 1/
AssDewlap
Republicans refused to delay the election despite covid. As a result, the predominantly black county of Milwaukee had only 5 polling 2/
Doc070
This is not what happened at all. You need to do some more research. Republicans didn't control the election.
Unix347
You get awful quiet when people post sources there doc
AssDewlap
Sites compared to it's normal 180. Source next 3/
AssDewlap
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/04/09/wisconsin-election-milwaukee-had-5-voting-sites-while-madison-had-66/29705
delacruzzz
You not willing to see the progress. Police killing were going down each year. Convictions were going down. There are less racists
MyBubbles
More racist understanding that technology will get them in trouble. Have to be sneaker now.
ImSorryThatWasReallyRudeOfMePleaseForgiveMe
Apparently not
delacruzzz
Yeah there's less but just 1 is a tragedy
Behl26
Going down... So how many is acceptable each year until people should be complacent?
Rhulain
what's the acceptable number of innocents murdered by rioters untill George floyd is 'avenged'?
SmolTenk
zero. I dont know why you would suggest it to be anything but.
punknoodles0
What is the acceptable number of jobs lost for a lockdown over a flu?
kojenk
Standing atop a pile of corpses 100k tall and growing
Triflow
Uhhh, Where do you find these "facts"?
delacruzzz
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/fsd0512.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjS3O-ymOTpAhVHB50JHZT6CaMQFj
Triflow
"Federal Sentencing Disparity: 2005–2012" I don't think you realize that this doesn't exactly support your claim.... lol
delacruzzz
https://www.statista.com/statistics/191261/number-of-arrests-for-all-offenses-in-the-us-since-1990/ and that one shows the total imprisonmen
delacruzzz
https://www.prisonpolicy.org/research/race_and_ethnicity/
delacruzzz
You see the down word trend? That was the progress during those protest
Sally101cat
Violence against violence is not the answer
EmpressOfBotany
Damaging property is not violence. Harming people is violence.
BonkVEVO
Sometimes violence is the only language some people will listen to.
Mr920
"Violence is not the only answer. But it is the final answer." - I am quoting here, attack the quote not me.
LookingForWorkInColorado
I mean it might be. Pacifism hasn't worked.
SpaceballsTheComment
Violence begets violence. You don't like it, I don't like it, but that's the way it goes, until there is some real change.
stink3rbelle
Except when the police do it, right?
antithesiscontrarian
Agreed, this is for the police and politicians to hear, they need to get out of their holes and start drafting bills and making statements
Yondering
It certainly can be the answer. But violence against the community instead of focused on the problem is not the answer.
Yondering
Still, violence and even words against all police isn’t right either. The focus should be on the bad few PEOPLE, not an entire group.
BaronSpaghetti
Yet anger gets shit done.
ColdRice
I agree, but sometimes violence does need to be met with violence. There is a time and place. This is definitely not one of them.
myeyesthegogglesdonothing
Violence against innocent people like what's happening now? Absolutely fucking not.
ColdRice
Like i said, this is not the time. And i was clearly referring to violence against violence. Don’t know where you got your question from
Triflow
Ghadi fucked little kids while collaborating with the British government. He said the same thing.
kojenk
Wow way to go being utterly wrong. He actually advocated violence when all peaceful efforts proved not to be fruitful
Triflow
Wow, someone knows nothing about history, and sure whats to make sure everyone knows! Nice bud!
kojenk
"It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of nonviolence to cover impotence. /1
Pinyateh
Im sure hitler said some good military strategies in all the bad ones he used but you don’t see us negating the good strategies Bad argument
Triflow
What does that even mean dude? If you knew anything about hitler youd know he said:
Triflow
if our adversaries had understood its principle, established a clear understanding of our ideas, and not offered any resistance. 1/2
KittyEmpress
Violence is the only answer. Every revolution has involved violence or threat of it.
DeusExSpockina
Peacefulness in the face of relentless violence only works if those you oppose have shame. Otherwise they will not stop.
LokiShinigami
I don't know, Hiroshima and Nagasaki while tragic, got the point across pretty damn quick.
ekzeko
https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/05/30/the-bomb-didnt-beat-japan-stalin-did/ This article messed with me hard
JamJarre
It's pretty much the only thing that works when the violence you oppose is backed by the system.
JamJarre
People out here trying to apply playground bully rules to institutional racism
Yondering
Stop trying to make this a racism thing. It’s NOT. It’s a bad cop thing. Making it racial distracts from the real problem and makes it worse
JamJarre
The bad cops are racists retard
schizznatt
It IS a racial thing. Saying it's not is dismissing decades of pain and suffering. Is police brutality a problem for everyone? Of course.
brakiachi
Violence started America, ended slavery, and got civil rights....
EmpressOfBotany
There's also Stonewall. And some absolutely bonkers civil disobedience to get the Americans with Disabilities Act passed
Gababu
yup, however the LA riots already tried to solve this current problem with violence and it didn't go away.
Zyrixion
Also all of our workplace rights/conditions. People were dragged out and executed in the streets to get those
attylloyd
and ended WW2
sdrawkcabmIpleH
Surrender ended WW2. I'm not saying the violence against invasions is pointless but without it there hadn't be any war in the first place.
jasgstock
That violence however was directed at the actual perps. It wasn't random. That's the key difference.
brakiachi
You say random, I say pushing back at a systemic problem after decades of trying to "do it the right way" and being ignored
jasgstock
Think of it this way - rage-slapping one kid because the *other* kid was bad. That's exactly what this is. Being mad doesn't give you the
sdrawkcabmIpleH
I'm pretty sure a lot of collateral damage was caused during all those events. It's just not the focus in the history books.
jasgstock
These stores are not collateral damage though. They are literally the target of the looters; and they are US. It would be like ..