ridiculousbudget
136866
1937
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Link to tweet:
https://twitter.com/aziedee/status/1515333667849080835?s=21&t=01tgC6B1GB_qbwJ59AqbXg
Apr 17, 2022 9:20 AM
ridiculousbudget
136866
1937
82
Link to tweet:
https://twitter.com/aziedee/status/1515333667849080835?s=21&t=01tgC6B1GB_qbwJ59AqbXg
c2zvgsVillain
So that must make us modern day peasants
Velv3tThunder
Well that definitely needs a source
Stargrave3000
They worked 150 days a year FOR THE LANDLORD. They still had their own households to maintain, which was backbreaking, unending work.
matthdew
Ooo and she gives citations in the post too, what a legend!
CoarseAndSalty
Also if you've ever gone into work or left work in the dark you've worked a longer day than a medieval peasant.
realbrickwall
Very misleading concept. They had to do a lot of work to stay alive other than their employment, and their workday was sunup to sundown.
jzastrow
The "work" I'm doing in my chair in th air-conditioning with coffee and donuts probably doesn't compare to plowing fields
Ifekinlovesauerkraut
Yeah, you don't even have to be a historian to recognize this as a huge pile of bullshit.
ispendtomuchtimehere
well then I quit
GravyEducation
Your resignation is not accepted, please return to the assembly line Worker 22376
Attaroo
The problem is it's literally illegal in the US to be poor. Which then costs money.
NotAPervert
And illegal to be homeless when capitalism is not preempted from rendering you homeless
LokiShinigami
Being unable to work during the winter is not the same as having vacation days....
Friendlyhedgehog
The reason for this is many peasants didn't work between harvest and planting next year (maybe 5 months), not due to feast days.
Friendlyhedgehog
This also doesn't count non-field work (gardening, weaving, crafts), but this work was necessary and happened all year.
Zerosixk
Medieval peasants probably started working when they were 8 and were lucky to make it past 20.
RawSuger
no the median lifespan you hear about includes a shitload of deaths before 1 or 2. once you made it past infancy you usually lived till ~60
BringBackZachBraff
https://www.historyhit.com/life-of-medieval-peasants/
oggyswe
Also alot of proffesion back then dident have constant materiel to work with or werent always in season.
GNiko
There's a difference in how much you have to work if you want to buy a candle vs if you want to buy a TV.
neilwatkinsfromaccounting
Not if you’re after the Sony Candletron with 1 million candlepower
S33KER
"candlepower" also called a Candela.
Zeriador
I think that if I went to a big building with all my farming mates and we listened to a fellow spew on in gibberish for an hour and then...
Zeriador
...drink a few ales, chat about the community and go home, I'd prefer it to a modern religious church.
Peachcappuccino
Peasants revolt 2.0 surely due soon
Slamtastik
They didn't live with consumerism, It's wasn't feasible for them to work as much as us because they had so much other shit to do to
Dannoboyo
https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/44978/miniver-cheevy
license2kilt
Oh yes, the old days… When dying old meant 45.
CaptTelnet
Peasants didn’t get to retire, they just died.
sirlapins
most holy days meant extra prays & tithe,by the poor.
clawthewolf
Nah, for many villages it involved festivals, where young people from different settlements could mingle and hook up. was vital to 1/?
clawthewolf
prevent incest 2(2
rambot
"we've never worked so much". Naaah. Remember the labour movement from 100yrs ago?
rambot
Quick search: avg work time now is 40, 19th century the average was 60.
pleaseconsiderthatImightbejoking
*laughs in 62*
rambot
Laughs in *average*
dasklaus
Average work time *per job* now is 40. Makes no sense to compare averages though. Class divides are too large.
rambot
They always have been. Many serfs weren't that we'll off
dasklaus
And there's a bunch of jobs that don't get the day off on holidays - not now, not back then.
Metallica93
That is a fucking terrible analogy that ignores so much it's not even funny.
JustinSearchOfEnlightenment
Fucking casuals.
StagBullSwitch
It's also got no source. This seems a ridiculous number, so some evidence that it isn't composed of N2, O2, and CO2 would be helpful.
TheobromineAddict
Google it: google.com/search?q=how+much+free+time+did+medieval+peasants+have
SmedC
Like how the majority were farmers so those "on" days were backbreaking harvest time and the "off" days were for starvation in winter.
shawnemack
Seriously. The church didn’t give two shits about peoples happiness
Importaku
GrizzlyBeer26
Also, 150 days is roughly April until late October... that's a full harvest cycle, I'd wager another 120 days were spent suffering winter
poopdagger
Work culture is one of the worst things to happen this happen to society.
ghostofGracchusBabeuf
I blame the Puritans.
prodmerc
Those who love their work disagree
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
I love what I do but I also have my own life. I don't want to be working all the time, that's nuts.
UncleMeaty
There are many things I love doing. I can't imagine any one of them I would love being forced to do 40+ hours a week.
prodmerc
I do. I used to stay 2hrs late at work every day for free at one of my previous jobs because I simply loved it. Different people.
UncleMeaty
You couldn't think of something else you might enjoy doing?
prodmerc
My hobbies were very much aligned with the job. I would get home and do the same shit :D. But to be fair, I'm bad with people/relationships
ghostofGracchusBabeuf
See, nothing would stop those people from working if the culture was different, but while we glorify the grind the opposite it true.
prodmerc
It could, actually, there's limits on working hours in many European countries. Sucks to be the one forced to do it, either way.
ghostofGracchusBabeuf
Consider Van Gogh, who basically never sold a painting in his lifetime. How many more have we missed out on because they had to work?
ghostofGracchusBabeuf
A little more sense, or a bit less generous family, and humanity would never have had Vincent, and we’d all be immeasurable poorer for it.
prodmerc
I couldn't care less about painters, but I get your point. It's hard to do what you want, something meaningful when you work and are tired
ghostofGracchusBabeuf
Hox1067
I mean, yeah I get where this post is coming from, but I definitely enjoy a lot more luxuries than they had. Internet for example.
BrokeMyFunnyBone
And fruit
JangJangles
Modern dentistry and anesthetics.
Greenshield
Not dying in child birth (as often) is definitely a perk
goodforyouman
Now, now, if they wanted the internets back then they just needed to work a little harder to get it. Lazy. Selfish. Ungodly. Unclean.
MrsFartSimpson
I would trade the internet for 200 days off a year. But I still want my toilet.
Syrpynt
I'd trade internet, but keep processing power and modern computing. Makes calculation/design a lot easier--but fuck social media/adverts.
Odb718
Wait. You ENJOY the internet??
toobilltochill
But why not both?
Willowknowsall
Toilet
kaoticgirl
But, what if we had internet AND free time?
CarpoolTunnelSyndrome
Not having to spend all those holidays IN church is another.
tryingtogetlostsince80s
plane+cars+internet+nukes = agreed labor exploitation?
RawSugarPackage
AC and refrigeration.
RevRagnarok
https://twitter.com/matthewpcrowley/status/621078253827002368?lang=en
goudist
Gatorade so you don't die from dehydration when you get the shits.
YesButAlsoYes
It has superior potassium
spacecowboyein
Massively increased food options, including fruit, meat and spices. Indoor plumbing, AC and heating, quality clothing, traveling, etc.
ThePunishersVengefulBrother
Just not having to spend 3 hours a day milling your own wheat is nice (the daily grind)
orbitn
They had the 'net. if they didn't work hard enough, they ended up suspended in one as an example to others.
NoFather
Which could easily be made free.
cepacolusmaximus
Flush toilets, food delivery, spices, drive in movies...
pleaseconsiderthatImightbejoking
Do you have a house?
blzrdphoto
I’ll take clean water and a refrigerator over internet as my choice thank you very much.
GravyEducation
I quite enjoyed the luxury of not becoming disfigured or dying
TuckerCarlsonWarnedYouTheredBeGirlsLikeMe
good thing we have proper medical care here.
reichstein
Unless you live in the US and have a medium to low income.
SimiKusoni
Shh, don't say that out loud. You'll make the Americans jealous.
FrankTheThunderbird
Also not dying at the ripe old age of 35.
paintingagency
If you survived childhood (a big if) you'd probably make it to old age.
orbitn
isn't that number skewed by child and infant mortality
rainehdaze
Yes. Actual mortality for surviving to adulthood still tended to lead to old age.
ReaperCDN
Just odds of making it to old age were brutally low thanks to violence, disease and lack of OSHA requirements. ;)
HandoB4Javert
Fresh water rather than dysentry is a luxury?
Scar1203
I mean Nestle seems to think so...
orbitn
Multiple kings died of the shits. Multiple. So clean water wasn't /even/ a luxury. It was just a gamble on if your next sip ended you.
HandoB4Javert
Bring me beer!
RelativeVelocity
I'd be fucked, I only drink water
HandoB4Javert
A life in holy orders awaits
Mohareb
Let's be real. Not even the rich people had that back then
DanFendi
Yes they did. They were called 'advisors.'
DemSumBigAssRidges
Nah, they just ate and fucked. I feel bad for em really...
my1rstlaptopwas34inchscreenup
well they where compensating the lack of microwave oven with servants or slaves who cooked and clean and did whatever for em
lildumptruck
If you have medieval royalty a soda it would explode their minds. They’d probably think it was a divine gift from god
TheFutureIsDead
Invent time machine, go back in time, give them soda, become a god or a messenger of god and live the best life in the old times.
paintingagency
Bullshit, the king would have had it. It was just expensive.
GodzillaHarddiskson
The king and a couple of porn producers, noone else
LurkerOfDarkness
Alluring wenches await in manor near you...
Subsound
The peasants would have serfcoin and pencetorrent to do what they needed though...
kikisdeliveryservice
Painful as it is, ppl have never worked so much in human history as now and we're even less happy. It's all about the new "stuff" we "need"
erikleorga
I work in an industry to help people store all the stuff they've accumulated. The happiness they get is from realizing they can buy more
kittybuttwiggle
... a home?
Styxwash
We have more free time than ever due to all the automated functions in our lives from home appliances to motorized travel 2/2
CouchCarrot
We work less now than at any point in history.
Klaxun
Yeah, like next month's rent.
daromander
Please provide a source for this since it seems ridiculous to believe that
Styxwash
Peasents didn't just spend all their day fullfilling their hobbies and innermost desires. They had all sorts of constant work all life.
BringBackZachBraff
I’m not saying the system is fair, but this isn’t true. During the industrial revolution people would work 70+ hours a week
stevencloser
That shit only started with the industrial revolution.
kikisdeliveryservice
People are doing that now.
Styxwash
This is not true at all. The main reason society has been able to develop advanced technology and advanced learning is because 1/2
dryrunner
Like penicillin, insulin, flavors that would make an emporer blush, books, light bulbs, indoor plumbing, germ theory, chocolate, retirement?
DarthWhatsHisFace
What's the point of retirement if we stop valuing working ourselves into the ground and start enjoying life in the moment?
paintingagency
Well, yes, but all that could still be available without all our surplus value being siphoned to billionaires.
neithermenoryou
All of that could be achieved and ensured with less work for every human on the planet thanks to current levels of automation. It's just
neithermenoryou
that the fruits of said labor (automation and human) goes mostly into the pockets of the ultra wealthy.
thegifnews
Not true. Child labor was a thing. Retirement wasn't a thing
TheS4ndm4n
The good old days, where old people just fucked off and died. Would at least improve congress a lot.
StOfKillers
Retirement still isn’t a thing for the majority of people. Hell, I’m better of than a lot of people and need to work to 70 for my employer-
thegifnews
Well back then you wouldn't live that long
StOfKillers
Funded healthcare cause my wife won’t be eligible for Medicare until that. And that’s assuming republicans don’t push the age on Medicare
StOfKillers
And I’ll probably have a massive heart attack a day after retiring anyway and won’t live to enjoy it.