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Previous tenants left an entire house full of garbage. Bedbugs, rats and roaches. It took a 40 yard dumpster just to get all their stuff out. A guy who lived here killed a woman and buried her body in a basement in a different house about a half mile away. The family split into two factions, those supporting the killer, mainly the mom, and those who thought he was a piece of shit(everybody else) So the mom moved out and it turned into a squatters den for a month with people doing drugs and pissing in bottles and all sorts of shit.
Cheap I know, but at 48cents a Sq. Ft and over 900 SQ feet to do, it's all I could afford.
Ripped out the sink in her that was in previous pictures. Capped the lines and put drywall over the hole.
Toilet flange snapped off because the floor was uneven. Had to build up the floor.
The planks don't look bad. They are versatile and waterproof. And if one doesn't glue down right or there is a tricky spot, screw it and hit it with the finish nailer.
Thats a Senco 18V cordless finish nailer. Costs $329 new, Menards had it on clearance from a returned online sale. $200. Variable depth control, a flashlight built into it, takes up to 2 and 3/4 nails. So fricking handy for random stuff that needs nailed up or tightened.
-Edit. FRONT PAGE! First time ever. So Awesome. And on New Years Eve! Here is what the house looked like before this all happened. https://imgur.com/gallery/OT7in It's a before and after with pics. Send nothing, I just like that something I poured my heart and soul into is being seen by so many people. I generally downplay my efforts and everything I do is never good enough. Also a recovering alcoholic and I guess I fit the workaholic model that comes with that. Thanks everyone! You have made my month! 2018 LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Amesamesames
Ugghh, some people are knobheads
moonrosestarr3000
As a renter, fuck them. We have pets, we take care of our stuff. We also take pics before and after we leave. It's not always the (1/2)
moonrosestarr3000
who refuses to pay. Also you're right. cheap but easy to clean flooring is better. Carpet sucks. (Allergies) (2/2)
yomancs
My parents are hoarders and I'm working really hard on breaking the gene
Rynareffect
I love throwing stuff away. It's liberating.
stimpsonjcatt
Good luck with your parents.
littlesteelpanda
Dude thats 10/10 fucked but great job fixing it up!
ClassifiedUsername
Any legal action you can take against them?
Rynareffect
I did. Sued them for 1300. Will prob never see it
ClassifiedUsername
Get a subpoena and they can end up doing jail time if they don't pay
Leftrighthere
I rented for many years, always got my deposit back by making sure that place was not just empty but clean when I left.
shban47
I feel your pain. The best day was when we sold our rental.
shadysocks
Guy I worked with let “friends” rent his house. Basically totaled it. It was condemned.
Rynareffect
Yea bro. I ended about 3 friendships in my life renting to or co-habitating with "friends" its easier to fuck a friendship than come up 1/2
Rynareffect
with $300. I don't rent to anyone I know. I would rather get fucked over by a stranger. I take it less personally. Hurts less.
TCGView
This is the main reason my step father sold his rental properties. Too many dipshits destroying stuff, too much hassle.
angryorange
Asshole tenants ruin it for us good tenants that can't afford 5k$ deposit plus first 2 months and last 2 months rent. owners just being safe
animatronicvelcrorat
See, this right here is why people like me cannot afford rental housing. The shitty people fuck it up, then the rebuilt house is worth more.
Imsickagain
have the walls tested for meth residue. it can be poisonous to future tenants and you.
Rynareffect
I need to. Didn't find any evidence or precursors or the smell. I've seen a meth lab and its traces elsewhere in life.kinda dont wanna know
cobaltandchrome
In my state (CA) you're obligated to disclose, not sure if obligated to investigate... look up laws in ur state
Flyndaran
I've only met one person that used meth. Dear lord, the odor given off by his skin long after he used.
Pawnderlust
I hope you had pest control for bed bugs
Imsickagain
You can kill them with heat too apparently
mikeytronic
Good on you pal. There's good and bad tenants out there. Hope your next is better.
SexPantherByOdeon
as a property manager to only college students, i feel your pain.
azzjunky2000
Landlord here, can relate. The worst part is knowing this is happening & eviction laws make you wait months to get them out..
Drewtendo64
You need to start doing background checks and manadtory references
Rynareffect
Guy wasnt on the lease. Things were fine for 2.5 years, then BAM!
Drewtendo64
I hope everything works out, maybe start doing check ups? Where I am from you are allowed into a dwelling with 24 hours notice
LearnSomething
Why was he living there if he wasn't on the lease? That's something specifically no-go on a basic contract. Sucks they trashed the place.
SailorVSays
Probably because he didn't know he moved in and was subletting. It happens. Especially if you don't check on the property often.
stimpsonjcatt
Stinks. We were averaging from spending 3k-5k between tenants on an 82k property from replacing flooring to appliances all the way to>
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Rynareffect
I had a 90K appraised rental that I sold for 83K last Friday. The nicer houses don't have a return on investment after taxes and insurance
stimpsonjcatt
Don't I know it. Struggling to make anything off one that's worth 204k. Ours is 10% off the top for prop mgt, so that's a killer. Then they>
Sk3l3t0r
Yeah, I read it as the nailer having a built-in fleshlight instead of flashlight... sigh
Eddyrock
I will remember this the next time a land lord is cranky with me. Good luck on the repairs. And even better luck on future tenants.
BohurtPotato
Our last landlord didn't want to give our deposit back 'cause we re-painted one room (after de-moulding it) with a slightly differet shade.
SpartanStatic
Try having a landlord that refuses to so much as attempt fixing problems with his rental property.
Eddyrock
I have a degree in criminal justice and Know the law enough that this isn’t an issue for me.
Rynareffect
Like hey dude, at least I didn't do this to your place.
Rynareffect
I got it all repaired and it's rented out currently. Current tenant is steady paying and is taking care of it. I can rest easy until his 1/2
Rynareffect
lease is up in may.
Eddyrock
Glad to hear it
MightyZephyr
I'm a contractor that works for landlords. I'VE SEEN SHIT
BklynPunisher
You should make a post of some work stories.
cantspellmanslaughterwithoutlaughter
Literally?
MightyZephyr
Very
cantspellmanslaughterwithoutlaughter
You poor, poor man. +1 for you.
Eunoterp
Rented our condo to a dude, no pets. He gets a puppy who tore up carpet, cut its paws on the tack strip, bloodied ALL the walls about 12" hi
Rynareffect
Damn. That sounds pretty bad. Feel sorry for you and the puppy man. Bad all around.
Eunoterp
Another tenant decided the kitchen counter was a good place to rebuild his VW engine. Fuck that shit...I own just one home now.
Rynareffect
Lol, damn man. That sounds shitty. Sometimes I think about selling the two I have left. Just sold one a few days ago. but 1/2
Rynareffect
this is my dream to own tons of properties. I can't stop.
Eunoterp
I have a buddy whose family owns about 10 or 12 properties. He's a contractor, so...its all good. Still good long term I guess.
stimpsonjcatt
They ALWAYS get pets. Just get a crazy high non-refundable pet deposit. And only allow certain ones. That's reasonable enough.
Rampart93
Also kudos on the upgraded flooring. Currently on a roll with getting our Owners to switch from carpet to vinyl planks.
Rynareffect
Thanks. And you are right about that. Carpet lasts only a few tenants sometimes. Vinyl planks are durable as hell.
JackieTreehornProductions
I rented my place out once... never again. 15k in damages after I found out what they did to hide it - didn’t touch the income and headache
Rynareffect
what happened?
JackieTreehornProductions
plumbing issues upstairs in bathroom that leaked to first floor, they hid damage but then it failed. Shower, tub, faucets, floor, ceiling.
RodiTaco
Nice! I like seeing post like these. Sorry that you went through this but well done!
othemehto
I feel you. I haven't ever rentedout, but I have purchased 4 forecloure arocities and lived in while I remodeled. I salute you, sir.
Rynareffect
Thats legit.
othemehto
Most recent:spot in kitchen. Rather than fix subfloor, they built a platform over hole. Under were 6 layers linoleum. Wet sewage between 2
othemehto
The smell when i tore it open. My god, the smell. Had been leaking for a long time.
Rynareffect
lol, im about to make another post from when I bought it. Exact same thing.
Rynareffect
how much you pay for the foreclosures?
othemehto
First one was 22k. 2 story, complete remodel. Broke even from learning how to do everything the first time and fixing my mistakes.
othemehto
22k, 18k, 1k at auction, and most recently 20k
soupisforwinners
I've put off getting in the rental game because this is my fear.
Mockingbirb
No pain, no gain! Landlord here, too, but with a partner and renting apartments. Was knee deep in trash, too, when we started. Good job @OP!
Jonmbram
This is the reason I'm getting OUT of the rental game. This shit has happened to me twice now.
Pokegeologist
The people who rented before us left gang graffiti all over the house and ran a puppy mill in the back bedroom. 1/2
Pokegeologist
We had to rip out the old carpets ourselves and found hooks, blood, and "other" stains all over the goddamned place. 2/2
KyleBeach
I have a buddy who does it and i've thought about jumping in with him. If i ever did, my big stipulation, stemming from paranoia of stuff
KyleBeach
like this, would be that any contract including me in any way, i get the right to come by once a month or two to inspect. I'd nip that shit
KyleBeach
in the bud before it got worse.
mountainofpuppies
Op was silly and didn't keep tabs on his tenants. I put in a clause about acceptable damage levels before eviction with maintenance checks
TexxasTerror
This is why I got out of the rental game. Had similar happen and almost became a murderer.
Tenugui
It helps if your properties are not aimed at the lowest wage earners. 5 years as a landlord and I've had only minimal issues with tenants.
LearnSomething
GET A PROPERTY MANAGER. That is essential in owning rental property. This is what happens when you don't have one.
Rynareffect
I got one.
LearnSomething
This seems like an extreme case though. I mean, you rented to a murderer. That's pretty insane. Did they find the tenant or did you?
SquishyToeBeans
My mom is a landlady and there are some really great tenants but there's always a bad bunch. It's not bad to get into BUT check the 1/2
SquishyToeBeans
Properties often and always look deep into future tenants. Check their history, everything. Tenants should be honest not hiding things 2/3
SquishyToeBeans
To me it's a HUGE red flag if they are hiding any information (previous landlord info for references or criminal history are big ones)
SquishyToeBeans
We were once very concerned one of our tenants would leave cement in our pipes (we evicted her) and another left our house looking like
SquishyToeBeans
A 70s themed diner. But like I said there's always some really excellent tenants too.
RandomActOfConfusion
Co-worker has rental property. Their last tennant took a hammer to every tile in the house in addition to other damages.
MyDarlingFeet
That deposit was kept.
mmurrbles
I hope he also sued for damages
Rynareffect
I've had good tenants and bad. This is the worst I have been fucked over. Cost 3K and 3 months of no days off. But tenants were there for
Rynareffect
2 and a half years. I netted over 14K, which was the cost of the house before renovations. The key is making everything fool proof and
SoupCanMan
Make something fool proof, and they invent a better fool - Business Darwinism.
Rynareffect
True. Its a gamble no matter what. But I try my best to mitigate the risk.
Rynareffect
bulletproof. Vinyl floors. As few doors as possible with locks. Any lock in the interior needs to be one of those you can just pop a coat
Rynareffect
hanger in. Also a property management company. They do all legal and tenants and whatnot and get a 12% cut. Worth its weight in gold to
Rynareffect
not have the hassle and time and energy into finding, checking, billing, collecting, evicting, suing tenants.
AnnunakiMoon
A 14K house? Where?
Rynareffect
Fort Wayne Indiana in a low income neighboorhood and the house requiring months of work.
Maggiesperson
So, a Midwest slum lord complaint
thornmallow
Lmao... My bf just moved there a few months ago from California. The housing prices made his jaw drop.
sombrerohorsewagon
This is why I buy small single family homes next to good schools. Keeps out the druggies.
WillemHellfire
Wow! That's cheap AF!
Broman4097
So you are telling me they are or aren't getting their deposit back?
Rynareffect
Lol, unrelated but first thing I thought of reading your comment was https://imgur.com/aeJ35Xt
Xuw1
Rofl. Got me real good. Good luck OP. Happy new year.
Rynareffect
Lol, no they did not. And they got sued. But I am last on the list of people they owe money to. Will be a long time if ever I see some $$$
silentwolf1999
Do those renting companys not do background checks before they rent your place?
NotSoDarkKnight
They do. But they aren’t fool proof and people can go downhill after moving in.
stimpsonjcatt
Exactly. We went to court once. You'll mossy likely never see that money but I truly hate a girl lost her life, in your prop and you went>
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Rynareffect
Guy didnt kill her in my house. He just stayed in the house I have and killed the girl at her house.
Rampart93
First off, background checks and at least yearly inspections. Never let them know you are the Owner. Always get paystubs AND the last month
Rampart93
Of bank statements. This way you can garnish any wages after they move out. Document everything. Before condition with pictures, do a move
Rampart93
In checklist that the tenant signs in agreement of the condition. Then as soon as you get the property back do another round of pictures.
Rynareffect
I never let anyone know I am the owner. Property management company does all the clerical and legal and the maintenance if I want them to.
Donnydangaaazone
Need to know not need to show
LearnSomething
WTF kind of property management company let this happen?
Rampart93
Lots of them. It is hard to find one that puts quality of tenants over finding the first person who has cash in hand.
LearnSomething
Interesting. I've only dealt with one but they check the property for me once a month
TheTechReader
Thanks for the tip! Didn't think to not let them know I'm the owner. I will call myself the "property manager" which is also true.
Rampart93
"Hey, can I renew my lease?" After you have trashed the property and won't let us in to do Maintenance? I have to ask the Owner..
Rampart93
I'm almost two months late on my rent *insert sob story* can I have another extension? ..I have to get approval from the Owner..
MyFeebleTurtleDuck
My friend here wants to know why you shouldn't let on that you're the owner.
Rampart93
See above, but in most cases it keeps the tenant from shutting out the property manager if they think that there is someone else making the
Rampart93
Decisions. Keeps any toxicity from ruining a working relationship. You might not like that you can't get a pit bull but it shouldn't mean
Rampart93
That you stop calling when things break and you need maintenance.
Rynareffect
Im 34, look young, rent to older people, don't want them to skip the management people, def dont want them to contact me directly, thats
Rynareffect
why i pay them. maybe they see me a the owner and they are like fuck that young guy. Prop manager is a faceless corporation with lawyers
Rynareffect
thats who I want my tenants dealing with. not me the fucking softie. fuck that. Then when they know and fuck me over, it hurts worse.
WhyCantIFindaUserNameThatsNotRegistered
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mmurrbles
So they don't kill you and bury you in the basement
Rampart93
Also this.
Rynareffect
Here is the guy who lived here and killed someone. Dude helped me move a refrigerator into the house. I met a murderer. 1/2
itchybackside
That is probably him making sure you don't discover anything otherwise you end up in the refrigerator
Rynareffect
lol maybe!
cantspellmanslaughterwithoutlaughter
Is that his natural look? Looking like that...you still...agreed to allow his tenancy?
Surishorisho
Depending on where you are located, denying tenancy based upon physical appearance is a violation of Equal Housing Laws
Surishorisho
in which case you can expect hefty fines from the US government
Rynareffect
my people still find a way to discriminate. The laws are just another thing that has to be worked around to make money.
Rynareffect
He wasn't on the lease. Only the mom and daughter were.
RElGNMAN
I am a landlord & must tell you that bedbugs are a serious matter, while sprays are sometimes able to stop them, you need to heat treat them
Rynareffect
Temprid SC plus dry ice took care of them.
HappyHerbold
I was a virtual receptionist with 100+ clients for our team. we got SOOOO many calls for them!!!
Rynareffect
http://wane.com/2015/09/16/woman-found-buried-in-home-in-february-idd-arrest-made/
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Rynareffect
Cool man! Perhaps we could talk and learn things from each other.
rollingsixes
I’ve gotta side with the mom. Seems like decent guy.
LlamaLingo
How did he have access to that other house?
coronalmassejection
Holy shit, this is my home town.. I lived right around the corner from this house.. They always say" this happens somewhere else"..
InnocentValley
That somewhere else has to be somewhere too.
barnsandnobel
Oh Ft. Wayne? Now it all makes sense.
Rynareffect
crazy shit happens everywhere. Lol, it's not Detroit or Chiraq at least!
CanConfirmIt
Yeah but being from Fort Wayne I’d say we get a bit more than our share
itsallinyourmind
Detroit’s not so bad lol, rented a place downtown for 3 years during college. Never got hassled.
slackadelicyt
Damn I remember reading about that. Fellow Hoosier here!
thanksfoenothing
This is why I never bury bodies in rental properties.
thissitestealswhatcouldvebeenmyproductivity
Also my reason. One of my reasons. (#nomurderplease)
root1657
So um, where do you put them? Asking for a friend.... Totally not a cop....
InnocentValley
I bury mine under speedbumps. They'll never know.
thanksfoenothing
chewybrian
fun fact: "...average American meets 717,225 people throughout their lives, of which 10.76 are...unapprehended murderers..." (1/2)
chewybrian
(2/2) https://www.leozqin.me/how-many-murderers-will-you-walk-past/
LanceHol
Met considerably more. Of course I worked in the prison system for 8 years. Some are quite charming unless you hit their button.
battlepants
My neighbor (owner) just moved back into his house when the lease ended with the renter. Renter was an asshole and I am very thankful >>
battlepants
they are gone. Owner reported to me that they did at least 5k in damage to the property including destroying hardwood floors by letting >>
battlepants
their dog piss on the floor and letting it soak in. Reported destroyed ceiling fans, doors, walls, bunch of stuff was in bad shape. >>
battlepants
I'm thinking it's been 6 months since they moved back in and I am still seeing the occasional worker showing up to repair/replace things.
LlamaLingo
Wow. Must've smelled awful!