LucyBelle
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Oct 22, 2016 6:58 PM
LucyBelle
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GrizzlyWicks
ill have you know im a very rotten anus
ActuallyMyNamesMarina
Yeah I'm still not putting veterans on some dick sucking pedestal for the rest of their lives.
Srcsqwrn
So hard to think of that.
randombullshitguy
Was at one time and still is
corvandus
He was also lied to, had his health and youth robbed, and was subsequently treated like shit for near fifty years.
VresiBerba
What exactly is it I'm supposed to 'respect'?
dandydust
I've seen articles on how in Vietnam there is zero animosity because from the war. They're more worried about the islands China is annexing.
dandydust
http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2015/05/01/402572349/ask-the-vietnamese-about-war-and-they-think-china-not-the-u-s
IfIKnewItWasThatKindOfParty
Truth!!!
SexySquatch
Yeah well, I once ate a hot pocket without letting it cool down first.
glitchead
Can we stop idealizing senseless murder under the orders of PMCs and governments?
TomKaz
It is badass to shoot women and children?
derock789
See at a grocery store I can't help but dread the vet hats, I'm thankful for their service but so often they're the worst customers
Cheomesh
The last time I thanked a vet for their service, their immediate question was what branch I served it. It was weird.
makeyourownpath
Check....M60, check.....M79, check.....Claymore. Let's go.
meesothelioma
And if you combine them, you get a self defending machine gun with a grenade launcher.
FascinatedSloth
Killing people that didn't deserve it ..reeeaaall badass
KillerTofu615
No the old guy that shuffled around with the vietnam vet hat on, also got his clothes from the salvation army and had never been military.
YoungPecuiler
I knew an ex FROG (Early SEALs) who died recently. Agent orange damaged his lungs a whole lot. He felt guilty about what he did during 1/2
YoungPecuiler
the war. He had to do a lot of horrible things, and he tried to repay them with generosity, he was one of the nicest people i've ever met.
SamArt53
I was out of the Navy 30 years before I was EVER thanked for my service. I thought the guy was joking. He was also Navy and did 3 'Nam 1/2
LucyBelle
Thank you for your service.
SamArt53
2/2. 'Nam tours. I told him 'I didn't do anything' -data processing tech. , he replied "You supported us man." I almost lost it.
KillerTofu615
I got thanked for my service flying out of bootcamp, and every airport I went to. Marines stick out like a sore thumb in or out of uniform.
Puppydonk
He could be a murderer also. Or a pedophile. Or a clown. Anybody could be. Hide your kids, hide your wife, nowhere is safe all is dust.
Kitastrophe
Are we to believe there were 0 useless scumbags in a roughly random sampling of the set "young American males who couldn't avoid the draft"?
unfounddoorway
Of course there were. Look up "My Lai" in google, these assholes were the people who dragged down the reputation of the other Vietnam vets
The2ndHank
Interesting you mention Mai Lai, because lots of Viet veterans at the time said that operations like that were routine.
Kobay
You know who is even more badass? The Vietnamese who defended their country against him.
Cheomesh
You know, the guys who actually won.
imnotryan
You mean the North Vietnamese who were invading another country and murdering it's people? Gotcha. We were ASKED to intervene by the ROV.
jchansen
...asked by an unjust government that perpetrated military crackdowns on its citizens, was subject to coups and only existed to counter N.V?
dinosarahsaurus
I will believe that as much as people thinking a trillby makes them cool
ClearBlue
The fuck is a trillby?
Ghostwish
A woman's hat that was briefly worn by reporters, now by basement dwellers. Often mistaken for a fedora.
dinosarahsaurus
According imgur, it is what most people think is a fedora.
Ghostwish
Not "According imgur". They're distinct. http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/trilby-vs-fedora-know-the-difference.jpg
dinosarahsaurus
My intention was that I learned my information from imgur and did not corroborate elsewhere.
Ghostwish
That I can understand, just wanted to clarify it didn't originate here. Goodness knows where it came from.
jchansen
Well given how much of a moral quagmire Vietnam turned out to be, I would more likely be sympathetic towards them than admiring.
IveBeenSlackingMyWholeLife
You mean the unlucky sap who get sent over seas at 18 or the gullible idiot who volunteered cause he wanted to prove something?
WyattDerp2001
Make love not war...or some stupid shit.
IveBeenSlackingMyWholeLife
Make love not some stupid shit. I like it
LetMeGoogleThatShtForYou
Look up South Korean soldiers, most volunteered for 1. money 2. chance to kill more communists out of pure hatred for communism
IveBeenSlackingMyWholeLife
Americans in South Korea or the South Koreans themselves?
LetMeGoogleThatShtForYou
south koreans entering the war as US allies
IveBeenSlackingMyWholeLife
Souther Koreans fought the communists in Vietnam? TIL!
imnotryan
I saw a mexican dude about 30 years old wearing a korean war veteran hat the other day. I'm sure he showed them china-boys a thing or two
Cheomesh
I grew up near a Korean War vet. Not common hats :/
Borkbot
Agreed, but that didn't make what he was doing right.
Thorsass
How wrong you are. That comment is ignorant and asinine. He was doing what he was ordered to do.
Mithi
"He was doing what he was ordered to do." ... you might want to read up on the Nürnberger Prozesse.
Zenbo
I could say the same about your comment. Carrying out orders doesn't mean what you're doing is right.
Thorsass
Actually it does. Unless the act is illegal, following orders of your command staff IS right. Otherwise you get hauled in on charges.
Zenbo
That's my point. Orders aren't always legal. Not everything militaries do are right.
Thorsass
Did you serve? Because there are specific rules governing and protecting men and women doing what they are told. Something to be said forit
VresiBerba
"Being ordered to" is THE most worthless reason to do wrong of all. Convicted former guards from Nazi concentration camps is a good example
VresiBerba
In fact, German soldiers today have the RIGHT to disobey an order if he thinks it's against human values
Thorsass
I specifically said "if the order was legal". Obviously if it is not, then there is no obligation to follow through. However, if the order
Thorsass
Is legal yet morally objectionable to the solider, that's where you do what your told. It's not open to interpretation of everyone on the
VresiBerba
So, what's a "legal" order, then? Don't you get it, there is no such thing as a "legal order" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_trials
AnotherImgurian14
What about the guys that just sat around getting high? Sadly there were a number of scumbags who didn't do their duty.
Promethianfire
They don't usually advertise that they were there.
Gregosian
Trump being the prime example...
SamArt53
But he was THE BEST draft deferment guy EVER. None were better at it!
AnotherImgurian14
I actually worked with a guy who made a ton of cash covering a lookout shift so the people could skip out and get high.
Fnirk
Yeah, how dare those drafted 19-year olds who were sent into a war against their will tryto escape their horrific situation for a few hours.
AnotherImgurian14
When it gets more people killed it's a problem.
DefinitelyNotMadeOfBees
Not sure why you got downvoted.
AnotherImgurian14
People don't like it when you insult vice.
ludwigsholyblade
When we get in that war in the first place, that's a problem.
AnotherImgurian14
I'll agree to that, but getting high and putting other poor souls at risk is horribly selfish and stupid. Why make something shitty worse?
ludwigsholyblade
Ok, you do make a good point.
TheZade
I know a guy who did laundry during the war who wears the same hat as a guy who trudged thru bloody mud and got shot 8 times. Hat is a hat
SamArt53
All gave some, some gave all.
TheZade
... and I say this with the utmost respect for those who risk their lives to defend our nation. As well as those who cleaned their shorts
FooSystems
like @OP said, the laundry guy "was at one time more badass than you will ever be"
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Carefuler
My dad was apparently stationed in Hawaii during Vietnam.
TallyReign
To be fair to the Laundry and Bath Services guys, they do have to see and smell some shit!
OopsPoops
They both gave a blank check to the people of the US that was good up to the cost of their life. Some closer to being cashed than others.
Promethianfire
To civilians, a veteran was a veteran, whether he endured the abyss of combat or punched a typewriter in uniform. -Eugene Sledge.
dumasaphobic
Let's not forget that there are bad people in military though. The over glorification of veterans has me (A vet) concerned.
Beezlebubble
I'll thank you for your service (because it's something that is needed to be fair), but I'm not gonna label you a hero. I agree with you.
fatfury
Yah. And to even hint at this opinions pisses people off hard. Almost started a fight one time and I literally only said the sentence..1/2
fatfury
"I feel like theres is an over glorification of veterans." Alcohol bring out the dumb in many folks.
HesusChristos
I signed up for WW2 in 1944 and wasn't even shipped anywhere. Where's my damn respect for the rest of my life?
fatfury
Hey man you commented on one of my posts earlier today. How've you been?
JonP608
If this is true, you must be the oldest man on imgur.
KillerTofu615
So... you're 90 and on imgur?
RyoukoSama
Looked at his comment history out of curiosity, I find it highly unlikely he is of that age group. I'm guessing the comment was sarcasm
lostconfusedandeasilydistractedheylookapenny
there are some grade A douchewaffles in the military. source: i was in the military and had to deal with a lot of them -.-
michaelmp
Agreed.
OverpricedCrayon
My EX-GFs dad used to wear a US Marine Vet hat because apparently people would salute him or give him free or discounted stuff. But...(1)
OverpricedCrayon
He was from Ecuador and never in the US Military. He sucked. (2)
123angelsandairwaves123
That is actually a crime. Called something like "stolen honor"...not 100% sure what it's called
SamArt53
It's repugnant, shameful and sad... but not a crime. Only faking being a Medal of Honor winner is actually a crime. The Stolen Valor
SamArt53
2/2. ..enacted in 2005 was overturned in 2012 by SCOTUS because it was deemed it was a violation of 'freedom of speech'. There's some irony!
Beargasm
My buddy was in the Navy and drove a yacht for through most of Vietnam. That was when he wasn't doing bookers in the Philippines (His words)
SonicBoomYourFamily
Bookers! Me read you long time!
Beargasm
Actually made me laugh. +1 to you sir.
Beargasm
Hookers. Damon autocorrect.
Derlino
This just keeps getting better
Beargasm
I give up.
SwampLord88
mugentsu
This need more upvotes
SomethingBeautifulAndTragicintheFallout
Forget Vietnam, what about the WWII vets? My favorite pt at work survived the battle of the bulge, D-day and being a POW. Amazing man. (1/2)
imnotryan
Why would you forget Vietnam? The combat men endured there was in several ways, quantifiably more vicious and terrorizing than WW2.
SpecimenSpiff
Well, you're far more likely to see a Vietnam vet "shuffling around in a hat" than a WW2 vet. That's all.
Thewayofthebear
My grandad entered the war at the end and guarded POWs in Italy, then went to the RAF as a carpenter. He's 91 now and he's still amazing.
ChuckNorrisAteMySock
I used to know a guy who spent the war flying C-47s around the US. He absolutely loved it.
Promethianfire
My father's uncle received the Bronze Star 4 times during WWII. He wouldn't talk about it.
Ashtacular
Got a 92yo infantry man from 289th to talk to me. Still shaken up at seeing him break down sobbing.
Promethianfire
Yeah.
SomethingBeautifulAndTragicintheFallout
And honestly some of the Vietnam vets are a little weird but i still thank them for their service (2/2)
GreedyJungle
A lot of the Vietnam guys didn't volunteer, felt the war was unjust, and were in their teens or barley into their 20's
GadenKerensky
Maybe because the difference between WW2 and Vietnam was some weren't sure Vietnam was justified. WW2? It was truly a righteous cause.
reversed
Agreed, you could even argue the reason we didn't "win" Vietnam(other than guerrilla warfare), was that it wasn't supported like WW2 was.
GadenKerensky
Of course, Vietnam was a lot more of a Grey area compared to WW2, especially since half the time, it wasn't clear who the enemy was.
Cheomesh
Dunno.I mean, Japan attacked us.Still kinda wondering why we got so involved in Europe.
gdat
Germany declared war on us first.
GadenKerensky
Because Japan was an ally of Germany, and entering the war in the Pacific meant Germany would have to pay attention. Also, pressure from 1>
GadenKerensky
the other Allies to assist them in the European theatre.
notthatdrunk
Getting drafted for Vietnam and then making it back to protest would be the worst. World war 2 vets at least had celebrations after.
GadenKerensky
Watching Band of Brothers, the episode where they found the Concentration camp, would tell you why I think you couldn't argue otherwise.
AMMOROAD
My father was 18 when he went o Vietnam as a recon marine. When he came back he was told to change into civilian attire because if he didnt1