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Count Dankula found GUILTY of offensive humour.
I am beyond disgusted with my nation right now.
Mark Meechan, a Scottish Youtuber under the name 'Count Dankula', has been found guilty in court for making a video where he taught a Pug dog to perform a Nazi salute as a joke to annoy his girlfriend. He faces a year in prison after spending two whole years at the mercy of the courts, being delayed over and over again.
I am ashamed of my country, I am ashamed of my nation. We are arresting people for jokes on the internet now. I am horrified and utterly embarassed by this United Kingdom, I wish I wasn't a citizen of it now.
I want to leave this drowning hellhole of a country before its too late, before we all start getting arrested for our dark jokes on Imgur.
I can only hope that Mark Meechan can appeal this, or gets off without any prison time, any punishment at this point is a total farce.
To those reading this, you may not agree with making jokes about that subject, but we've all made dark, morbid jokes in the past, and if this can happen to one of us, then it can happen to all of us.
EDIT: Mark's sentencing has been delayed until the end of April, there are now numerous petitions online, please consider doing your part and also consider sending a letter or email to your local MP if you are a British citizen, the louder our voice is, the better a chance we have of helping out this man:
https://www.change.org/p/the-police-free-count-dankula
silverdollarflappies
Honestly, people are always complaining about how messed up America is but the truth is, every country has some messed up shit goin on.
ConfusedLook
Number441
username checks out
Lunux
As infuriating as this is, I gotta give count props for smiling at cameras to spite those fuckers
IMayOrMayNotHaveTroubleFindingAndOrChoosingAUsername
I think that calling UK a "drowning hellhole" is a bit of a stretch, compared to a long list of other countries.
witchsword
True. Say, didnt the british court release a leader of child protitution ring like 20 years early after serving only 5 years?
highexpectations
Nazis do suck and all, but holy cap this is ridiculous
Crowlands
That's why he made a video where the Joke is "Nazis are so ludicrously wrong, it is inherently funny, and we should laugh at them."
Enigmastick
What is ironic to some degree is that nazis hated when people did teach their dog nazi salute. There were some Finns who did that during WW2
Hiidenheimo
Torille.
Enigmastick
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_(dog)
RealEnglishRage
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Crowlands
He was mocking Nazis. And now we have precedent that the Scottish NATIONAL SOCIALIST party believes it's a jailable offence.
mftre
You know who else wouldn't have thought it was funny? Hitler.
mwoodman
Unless maybe it was a German Shepherd.
Sremmos
Not saying it is right but it is more than just making the video. The judge felt it was beyond that and that is why it was a hate crime.
SweetStar1992
He was not convicted for a hate crime he was convicted of being grossly offensive get your story straight before you post.
Sremmos
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-43478925 also the main point was that was over the joke
Sremmos
It was that the judge felt he went beyond a joke and really using the commands he did he kinda have the judge all the ammo to do so.
TouchThaFishyyy
TedTheMan
Mockingbirb
blackychannnn
This is why I love imgur
sanaujiram
RoseSheepy69
Lol
ICheckUsernameAndSuch
Most appropriate use of this gif. Ever.
NoForethought
We should officially retire them when this happens, have a hall of the honored where you can see them all.
TheBlackVan
Sip a nice cup of tea, and SIEG FUCKING HIEL!
hulahooptuesday
that's the way hilter would pronounce it
ShinyMatador
*heil
TheBlackVan
The really fucked up thing is.... I googled how to spell that before I misspelled it. FML
noptic
Why does it feel so right and so wrong to upvote you on this? Are you a spelling nazi? Is it good to teach people how to do it right(wing)?
km9v
Sauce: https://youtu.be/SYslEzHbpus caution, you may be offended, but probably not.
ThatDeadPebbleMan
How is this in the public interest? Getting more and more frustrated with the judicial system in this country as time goes on. ITS A PUG M8.
SomePeopleSayThatCucumbersTasteBetterPickled
TheOtherOneWithTheHair
According to the far-left authoritarians here, lock up all of Monty Python too, joking about is not excusable apparently
MoreAshyThanLarry
The "gas the Jews" trick didn't help either
eagerophiuchus
Shh. That's inconvenient. OP is on a mission.
somerandomtwat
is irrelevant. does not change any part of this story
Magicmat
Whatever side of the political spectrum you are on, charging someone for 'grossly offensive jokes' is terrifyingly Orwellian
AxelBeingCivil
No, China's government is Orwellian. Russia is Orwellian. This isn't an arrest for criticizing the government, mate, this is obscenity law.
MrSebu
155DangerClose
Oh no! An irrelevant hammer and sickle!?
Crowlands
It's being shown to mock the fact that people are saying he's pro-Nazi.
TheOtherOneWithTheHair
I bet he regrets getting that one lol
witchsword
He does.
Tarlon
They want him to be an example to scare others into silence. On behalf of the free world, I implore all Englishmen to keep making jokes.
GingerLaird
Cards Against Humanity is darker than this. Also, joke's on you OP every country is sinking right now.
MakeMeLaughMonkey
Well I would say come to Canada but I doubt you are a former ISIS member. Trudeau wouldn’t want you.
VoiceofVeganReason
Got a source on that former ISIS member?
XaviersSnakeArm
Trudeau is ruining Canada's reputation, if not destroyed it completely
MakeMeLaughMonkey
Definitely
HatsfordaEmprah
Excuse me, the correct term is Isiskind.
MakeMeLaughMonkey
Right. I’m probably open to some new lawsuit now.
ElodOfNyek
But look on the bright side... hes got nice hair.
theshoeminator
Monty Python could never exist in this day and age.
cntdn
Oh fuck off. Have you watched British tele ever? Russel Howard's good news is a bit more out there than monty python.
DrakeRamorayMD
The U.K. government must have never seen a Mel Brookes movie
santoka
didnt know they were white supremacists. really makes me think.
IamNottNotHarvey
Yeah but to be fair Ive never seen usage of the nazi salute in any Monty Python work!
peterzappfe
yeah thats a load of bull, Monty Python exists in this day and age still and could have if they started today.
joeyjojosharknado
I remember the Fawlty Towers scene where Cleese was goose-stepping around while flinging up the Nazi salute. The satire would be lost today.
theshoeminator
Oh my, yes. Cleese is an outspoken opponent of the way political correctness has stifled comedy and free speech.
Doumdidoum
A group that was under full blown censorship for it's entire existence? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvVPdyYeaQU
METAAAAAAAAAL
They weren't that offensive, were they.
GadenKerensky
'Life of Brian' had the Christian community up in arms.
theshoeminator
Yeah, they were pretty bad for their time.
getmo
That's a fun game to play. How many movies have you seen that "wouldn't be allowed" today?
thisiswhyicanthaveanythingnice
70’s - 90’s era had a lot of great times for all the shit they get.
BarretXIII
METAAAAAAAAAL
Maybe Zulu Dawn? The white people killing black people are the heroes. It was a historical event though so IDK.
TripleLock
Not just movies, think about music. https://youtu.be/lAD6Obi7Cag is hate speech now
getmo
YES. That's not even the full version neither. If you have it HQ, PM me. Crazy how making an ironic/artistic statement is "forbidden" now.
lordtzar
Every WWII movie ever made.
noptic
This is really sad. I still do ot understand where this prudishnes comes from
TheOtherOneWithTheHair
A part of communism called political correctness, a brazen attempt to criminalize any language that opponents of the cause might use.
getmo
When you have one party, and that one party had an ideology, it will get out of hand. Humans need a marketplace of ideas, where at least
getmo
it's safe to discuss these things. Otherwise, a different opinion develops in secret, and the other side isn't even familiar w/ counter args
getmo
I think it's a progressives overreaction. I agree, being progressive is good, but not like this. Not like this.
peekypokey
It still exists and is still televised so this seems like a strange opinion
Doumdidoum
And it was thoroughly censored! I can't believe...
peekypokey
Yeah, underlining that it was HARDER to get Monty Python commissioned in 1969 than it would be today
Banzaibill
Then everyone involved should be put on trial no?
RalinStorm
It wouldn't be allowed to be made today, had it not already reached millions, it would be shut down before gaining steam.
peekypokey
Which sketches do you think would stop it being made?? It was often controversial in the 70s, it's totally benign now
tatischief
Haha bullshit. Brits and black humour is strong today.Check Four lions. You yankees have no idea how the rest of the world works.
RalinStorm
...dankula has just been found guilty of a crime for what Monty python did freely in the 70s. let that sink in.
Somethingnotveryoriginal
If by "did freely" you mean, was banned in many of Britain's local councils and international markets. Life of Brian hard a very hard time
tatischief
Please he wont be charged. This is just for the show to drive away Britain first. Also dont worry lots of black humour here.
Rin007
Can we like get a source on the offences he committed? I'm guessing there must be a kind of hate crime charge.
AxelBeingCivil
Not a hate crime; an obscenity charge.
DrawingOffice
It was. See http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-43478925
Gewyne
The thing is no one even reported it. The CPS and Police had no witness or complaints and used a "Diversity statement" as their "witness"
Rapiecage
he seems to rant on it a lot, and describes the content as "offensive social commentary"
GodEmperorOfImgur
section 127 of the communications act.
Rapiecage
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7SeFWZYFmsm1tqWxfuOTPQ/videos
MrRavellon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu47muw--A4 This video. He is convicted for this video.
HohHoho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Qa5iNloHwA and then he made this :") madlad
tuckfrump
getting one year for dank memes. lel. this world is going down the shitter
imniceronreddit
Fucking hilarious
pyrowmaniac
His GF talked about how cute her pug is, he makes video about how she says this and makes it not cute by turning it into a 'nazi'.
pyrowmaniac
The media gets involved then he's charged with hate speech and supporting Nazism even though he clearly dislikes Nazis and was making a joke
AxelBeingCivil
He was charged with transmitting grossly offensive material via the Communications Act, not hate speech. There is a big difference.
Steffn
It was just a prank bro!
RedDwarfIV
Sometimes it actually is a prank. No one was injured. No one complained. The police had to go out of their way to find an offended Jew.
PilotStrikeEagle
Pewdiepie better watch his back
GodEmperorOfImgur
Naw, he is (in his own words) a Swedish cuckboi, he's safe. :P
CaptCounterCulture
Isn't he already listed as a terrorist in Sweden?
TheOtherOneWithTheHair
They quickly recanted that list once they realised how outrageously bad it made them look.
DonaldTrump
You aren’t a citizen, you’re a subject.
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definitelynotahypocrite
That username tho
DonaldTrump
Thanks.
NeverBeenInboxed
Subject matter does not represent opinion. Everything is funny under the right context. EVERYTHING!
peterzappfe
well we dont know the context here, so lets no jump to conclusions.
SoIHearYouLikeAnimeLists
Ah, but the prosecution argued (successfully, apparently) that context didn't matter in this case, even though it mattered in other cases.
SoIHearYouLikeAnimeLists
Not even making this up. I wish I were.
IKnowYouHateMeYes
My country is in fucking shambles, mate. For foks sake, this gets me agitated. Fucking cunts.
SmolTenk
Just because you think its funny doesnt mean its ok. Prosecution would be a nightmare if that was a legit defense...
NeverBeenInboxed
Context. You need to learn the difference. Everything can be made a joke of under the right context
getmo
Disagree. It should be fairly easy to prove a legit Nazi vs someone making a joke in poor taste.
SmolTenk
It isnt. In germany we have been dealing with Nazis and Neo-Nazis since the end of WW2, if takes a lot of work if they know what they do.
kr662
Source of being hard to convict? A lot of Neo-Nazi tend to be pretty dumb I'd imagine they are easy to convict.
SmolTenk
German Identitarian Movement would be an example. They carefully avoid old racist rethoric.
kr662
The same can be said for if you think it's offensive doesn't mean it's ok to convict him. Prosecution will be easy for these cases as intent
Dokramuh
Nazi salutes carry a lot of weight to a lot of people.
kr662
Should be what is prosecuted. this case intent is a joke but if clear evidence can be found to insight hatred he should be convicted
ShazoomOV
From what I've heard from people inside the court room, the prosecution could not find any Jewish people willing to testify about their
CeruleanK
Nazis bombed the UK but to find someone who can take it personally you have to look for Jews?
AxelBeingCivil
Well, he did specifically shout "Gas the Jews!" in the video, so that might be why?
ShazoomOV
Experience
DorthLous
3 million views, not a single complaint, but GROSSLY OFFENSIVE...
Steffn
3 million views - not a single complaint? Those are mutually exclusive!
kr662
There was Jews willing to testify that it was joke but didn't count as they were outside the UK.
ArtOzz
Now there is SJW attitude if I ever heard it.
kr662
You mean what I said or them not accepting the Jews outside the UK to testify?
ArtOzz
Latter. Taking offence on behalf of another who either didnt notice or did and doesn't care.
kr662
Cool. I was ready to commit seppuku if I was an SJW.
Cyzyk
Pff, only real Jews are Scottish Jews.
kendottack
The no true jewish scotsman fallacy!
rabbiebabbie
As a Jewish person I make so many nazi jokes I'd totally get arrested if I was in the UK
Trvekvltarsehole
Nah, you're safe because you're a Jew.
TheOtherOneWithTheHair
I see you haven't heard of Ben Shapiro, or Milo Yiannopoulos, or Yaron Brook. SJWs fucking hate these guys and constantly call them nazis.
rabbiebabbie
Heh yeah if the history of Judaism has taught me anything its that identifying as Jewish is definitely something that makes you safer
MrMcSpiff
I Gimli laughed at that one.
TheToll
lol
DontJewishYourOvenWasHotLikeMe
Hope I don't get arrested for a username...
RydWolf
1) You'd probably need to travel to Germany, visit a concentration camp and make your own music video and put it on YouTube first.
RydWolf
2) Of course, first you'd need to build up your YouTube channel so as to get your video noticed.
dmon82
3) Get some ice for that burn.
RydWolf
I wasn't even trying to burn then, but I guess I must have since they downvoted my comment.
Arceus
Jew just reminded me my oven was left on after I left for work.
GlazedHamRiot
Chiraaaag
The couch looks familiar....
UnexpectedThanos
You have one, too? I've seen it once on my interview, where do I get one?
GarnerLeidy
That’s a bingo
hahamadeyoucry
LMFAO
fbutt09
Dont cha!!!
TheManWithTheSevenScars
dmon82
That got hot really quick, and might turn into ashes.
A10pilotedbyaHoneyBadger
get the wata nigga
thisisnodrill
You probs won't get arrested, but that doesn't stop you being a dick.
ArkoneAxon
Speaking as a Jew who lost family in the Holocaust... that's actually pretty funny... :p
mclukk
Ovens,..Soo Hot right now!
DetectiveSherlockHolmes
No, heh, certainly not *presses panic button*
LuffyDmonkey1
jetflight
Nah. Hating on Jews is cool, at least if you do it in the name of islam or "for the Palestinian cause".
ChrisLucas1
Live in the UK?
baxtothefuture
Nice try Theresa May
HighFive1
DON'T ANSWER THAT IF YOU DO
oapsaras
Welp. He does
MrAgnosticman
righteousparvo
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MantisTobogganPilotMD
Same.
Rick9Plus
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GodEmperorOfImgur
Yes hello, I am not an Officer from the UK, I like your "dank" name, and want to meet and have "dank hitlers" with you, what's your address?
Iprefermypunsintended
Approved.
AtlasFutureOverthrowsAmerica
I think you are a cockwaffle for having that as a username. But I will defend your right to be a cockwaffle with free speech every time.
alsoAzrael
As a Jew I can say: sometimes we like to make Jewish jokes too...
noptic
That is kind of cheap.
alsoAzrael
That's why I like it! (/s)
noptic
That is good. was genuinely concerned I was pushing it. Im a German and that still feels ... awkward. Sometimes I love Imgur.
AtlasFutureOverthrowsAmerica
Seems dumb to me. As an American who watched 2,600 people die on 9-11 I would never make a 9-11 joke. Pain/Agony is not a punchline to me.
NotShakespearesSchool
True. But as an American, it is my duty to defend all the cockwaffles want to awful jokes. It is a slippery slope to a world like 1984
alsoAzrael
I can understand that, but think of it this way. By joking about Hitler and Nazis, I show them they have no power over me. When we fear 1/2
alsoAzrael
a name or fear mentioning a person, we give power to that name or person. But we're stronger than that. 2/2
Althox00
Fear of something dangerous is valid. Be afraid of bears, be afraid of lightning, and be afraid of hate groups gaining legitimacy.
GlazedHamRiot
Those jokes dont fly here, they are plane wrong.
noptic
Knock knock - Who is it? - 9/11 - 9/11 who? - You said you would never forget!
AreYouSuggestingThatCoconutsMigrate
kaztas
I heard a 9/11 joke once and thought it was Smashing. Sadly, I tried to make my own once but it just crashed and burned.
noptic
That isok. But for some it is wat to deal with it. You can fin some of the darkest humor in hospitals. When I was told that my kidneys 1/2
noptic
are failing It felt real good to tell a friend that I could still sell them as "sell-as-is". It somehow makes it feel less awful.
CC2332
SirGrimble
He knows that. That's why he said "I think" and "to me"
quattroformaggix4
Ahhh, @alsoAzrael didn't specify holocaust jokes, but only Jewish jokes. Like you-an American- making a 'Merica joke
alsoAzrael
Hey, how many Jews can you fit in a Toyota Prius? 2 in the front, 2 in the back, and 6 million in the ashtray. *budum tssss*
stealthkat14
jew here. laughed.
SergeantSalsa
What the fucking shit?
percivaldanvers
Sorry mate but I'm going to need to see your swearing license
atnair
easy there, that’s grossly offensive and you’ll be locked away for a year
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Dustbina
So the law is fine to bend when it's affecting someone who doesn't share your views? Interesting view to take.
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Dustbina
That's a pretty terribly faulted view of laws, I hope you understand that despite your passion on the matter.
Banzaibill
Out.
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Banzaibill
Are you from a english speaking country by chance?
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OwenMillerOnline
What happens when the people who find your speech offensive gain power and use these hate speech laws against you?
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OwenMillerOnline
Everything you've said so far about him has been inaccurate, so you are throwing away your freedoms for nothing. Well done.
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OriginaIPoster
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GWXerxes
Paul Joseph Watson is not alt-right, and claiming that he is just goes to show you don't know what the alt-right is
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BigBlueBurd
So? That isn't a crime, and it should not be.
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Frizbeen
Fellow Americans, appreciate your 1st Amendment. People are getting tossed in jail for their dank memes and facebook post in other countries
AxelBeingCivil
You do realize that the US has obscenity laws too, right? And that the SupCo deemed them constitutional?
berlinson
Ah shaddap yank, your shithole country has plenty of its own problems.
W92Baj
You aren't the only country to have free speech laws you know?
Fahargo
We have the strongest laws but not for long. The left wants to chip away at them as if it can't be used against them
vicycat
And the 2nd amendment which grants the ability to defend against a tyrannical government.
eion85
Also helped keep those uppity slaves in line too.
ragekritz
It's never been used for that however
GuyDarras
Battle of Athens in 1946, too.
vicycat
But it can be as long as it remains. That’s the important part and the part often forgotten.
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ragekritz
ah I forgot that one time. oh well It was used once for that reason. everyone's upset thinking I had a greater purpose behind that statement
TheOtherOneWithTheHair
It didn't just fall out of the sky, they wrote it specifically because guns were what allowed them to tell the British to go fuck themselves
scrim4
*The French army and navy told the British to go fuck themselves. The Colonials were nowhere near winning that war.
eion85
No, the British having to ship troops across the entire fucking ocean did that.
TheOtherOneWithTheHair
They already had troops in America, who could've easily crushed any unarmed rebellion, just like they did to the natives when they got there
plebeiusmaximus
And the French helping out in order to stick it to the Brits.
cheryltunt69
Ah yes because dumb asses with guns is literally the only thing keeping us safe
yak3ftw
That's really rude to cops. Just because they got C's in highscool doesn't mean they're dumbasses.
AllMyOpinionSuck
A bold strategy cotton, lets see how this pays off.
pyrrhlis
*A bold strategy Adams, let’s see how this pays off.”
scrim4
"REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!"
boofhead60
"Freedom of Speech" this the Right to Criticize Their Government,, not to insult /abuse/denigrate
kendottack
Actually the wording is, 'Congress shall make no law...abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press'. No qualifiers as to what speech.
JNied
No, it is the freedom to express any opinion without fear of punishment. The whole point is that no one can decide how you express yourself.
AxelBeingCivil
... Except obscenity laws are a thing that exist and have existed as long as the US has.
boofhead60
thx will read more, cheers
Bustopher
I would suggest reviewing Obscenity and Defamation laws.
JNied
I'm already familiar. Perhaps YOU should review them.
Frizbeen
Well said.
cntdn
Yeah sure you gonna fire pot shots at the passing F22 with your semi-auto .223?
pyrrhlis
Why not?
RedCamaro
Arrested for dank memes. Imgur community take notes.
n0n53n53
That's why we are so obsessed with our bill of rights in the USA.
Tesla619
Imgur better wipe its server...the whole 128MB worth.
Wauphale
I always knew I'd die or go to jail for being too sarcastic. This will have to do.
JasonForge
"So I hear you like bad boys...Well, not to brag but...*whispers* I make memes."
IIRocks
Offensive ones “winks”
vectorforce
*Winks with both eyes*
IIRocks
Damn it dave! How many times do i have to tell you, you wink with one eye! Unless you have an eye patch then it’s a blink
Comet260
Yet you can groom all the girls you want, because arresting you would be "racist".
Comet260
Although the UK has a poor record of prosecuting powerful pedos prior to Rotherham. (Jimmy Saville, Catholic bishops, etc.)
d0o0o0d
It has a poor record of prosecuting weak pedos, too.
Comet260
Wonder why that it is. It's like the UK is a haven for kiddie diddlers.
nclu
"In France, you can be arrested for saying there wasn't a holocaust; in Turkey for saying there was one" (Somewhat related years-old meme)
mist0rX
So, Schrödinger's Holocaust? Shit... see you guys in ~5 years!
pookieeatworld
In Germany, you can be arrested for doing the nazi salute...
JauneHabanero
I read that as "nazi saute", for some reason.
GrimJim666
Interesting but we live in UK.
nclu
Hence my “somewhat”
newsguycraigevans
From my cold dead hands
HatsfordaEmprah
Exactly. We're all in danger now, every single one of you who has said something that could offend someone could be at risk, be afraid.
qixx23
This is seriously scary!!!!
Badsequence
Soon if you want to travel internationally they will require your social media history before you can be approved to visit a country.
Wesar
So we offended the nazis?
SlurpGod
Oh shit. I'm in trouble.
UgoffTheHungary
Holy shit southpark is right
IJustWantToPlayLeagueOfLegends
You mean like the countless jokes that people still make about 9/11...
OwenMillerOnline
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX1SojKfgNI
FernandoRumdebum
It's not that he simply told a joke, he put his anti semitism on the internet for everyone to see
Mackeroy
at least your government is capable of admitting that nazis are bad
DavosWritesInShortHand
Not me, I don't live in the UK. I'm in the US, people totally love the nazis here these days...
OwenMillerOnline
I don't live in a disarmed Orwellian hellhole. I'm good.
FrostyPhoenix
U mom gay
DaTipper
Im still free to talk about whatever I want in europe. Just dont make fun about the Holocaust. That doesnt seem unreasonable to me
MOTHERFUCKINGLUCIFERMORNINGSTAR
At least my country actually upholds the right to free speech. The US is fucked in many categories but this isn't one of them.
SocoFox
This is truth, because if it was not, the SJWs would be winning due to being offended at everything. We'd be getting arrested all over.
JebKermin
Not yet
Lunux
They don't even define what "can offend someone" so you could report someone for being offended that they smiled at you in a funny way
KeeleonOhms
It only matters if it offends someone in power like a judge.
Lunux
Of course, but power changes hands eventually and the tables will be flipped over what offends whose in power. History repeating itself
kr662
What's worse is the word "Perceived" in those laws someone only has to perceive what you say as offensive and you're jailed
ButtholeIceCreamParlor
I'm offended that they're offended, so put them in prison too.
Lunux
Exactly, that's what starts the entire rabbit hole of that insanity. Of course they'll essentially say it's okay if they do it though
ThaAmazingSodaMan
(1/2) Does the uk have freedom of speech? I vaguely remember it to be a crime to talk bad about the queen, am i mistaken?
EricFromAccounts
People crack rude-ass jokes about the queen all the time. You're remembering bullcrap.
EricFromAccounts
Downvote me lol I'm still right and you're still talking out of your ass.
ThaAmazingSodaMan
Wasnt me. Heres an upvote to feel better
ThaAmazingSodaMan
(2/2) If there is a form of freedom of speech what does it entale?
snurx
At least you're not in the US, where our entire government is a bad joke
chrismofer
yeah ill take some notes. and some jews. nazi nazi naZI NAZI heil heetlor USA #1
IwishIwereKeithDavid
They'd have to be posted here first
d0n7100k47myf4ve5
CorgiCircus
OP has nothing to worry about
flindt
imgur is good, their memes are either shit or stolen :)
berlinson
‘Gas the jews’ is a dank meme?
HeretiCorpHasAnDFAcannon
Not for a dank meme but Hate Crime. Recording your dog responding to statements such as 'gas the Jews' by raising its paw. Is not humour imo
Allanonshea1
You are wrong.
iAmWhatPlantsCrave
censorship and criminalization of speech no matter how revolting is this one of the first steps to totalitarianism after gun confiscation
HeretiCorpHasAnDFAcannon
Supporting to kill a whole race is a hate crime and has nothing to do with free speech. Raising your right hand/paw is supporting it.
iAmWhatPlantsCrave
What you support is irrelevant in terms of being Criminally prosecutable its basically punishing thought crime it’s disturbingly Orwellian
Lunux
What if I never learned about Nazis and raised my r.hand for an innocuous reason? Is it wrong if you unintentionally do it? According to 1/2
Lunux
your logic and vaguely defined rules, you actually support Nazis for that. How would it be different than doing it to mock Nazis?
SgtKoolaid
I dont think you know what the word "crime" means. Supporting an ideology, any ideology is not a crime
HeretiCorpHasAnDFAcannon
Supporting Nazi ideology is a crime in Germany. But this is Scotland and apperantly they find Count dumbass guilty of a Hate Crime.
SgtKoolaid
Commiting violence for any reason including in the name of an ideology any ideology is a crime
Tinkrr
People laughed when they were told freedom of speech wasn't a right in many places outside the USA.
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Tinkrr
False, it applies to religion, freedom of speech as a whole, freedom of press, and protest. That's why Nazis can assemble and hold their 1/2
Tinkrr
bullshit rally in America, as long as they do not advocate direct violence. 2/2
DirectorBright
Supreme court ruling: hate speech is free speech.
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DirectorBright
The problem is that if you make hate speech illegal, then you can define hate speech as anything you want to shut people down.
greyfoxv1
Nope, OP lied & left out the part where he taught the dog to respond to "gas the Jews." OP is ginning up an IMGUR mob on false pretenses.
greyfoxv1
OP's post history is all "questions" about "diversity" & anime so take a wild guess which site that sounds like Bart Simpson this came from.
somerandomtwat
still dont see how that changes anything, a joke is a joke.
SmolTenk
TIL the Hitler salute is a "dank meme"...
Lunux
Hitler in general is like the oldest meme...dankula's vid was essentially making fun of Hitler because he said it's not cute
Tinkrr
Ricky Gervais does a Hitler salute as part of his act. Dankula actively states "this is the worst thing I can imagine" while teaching apugit
fearandloathebananas
https://twitter.com/rickygervais/status/976115287991910400
Tinkrr
I have to say, I'm a big fan of Ricky now more than ever and I already found him rather funny.
ProfFailington
It is when it's just a pug lifting up it's paw. The same as the handshake trick. The only difference is the command word.
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justarandomfandom
The point was that he wanted to turn the dog into the WORST thing he could think of, to mess with his gf Your user name doesnt fit this time
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EricFromAccounts
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-43478925 The pug lifted up its paw when told "GAS THE JEWS!" and other 4chan crap. Forgi-
EricFromAccounts
-ve me if I don't join in with all of Imgur's hysterical claims that "Orwell was right". Like, I don't think he should be sent to prison-
EricFromAccounts
-but let's not pretend his joke was typical, or that ONE Jewish person saying it was okay absolves him in the face of people alive today who
TheRicM
My dog started out with shake then we slightly adjusted it and turned it into “wave” and now he can wave goodbye
HeretiCorpHasAnDFAcannon
It wasn't t only the Hitler salute. It was the Hitler salute, while Hitler says 'Gas the Jews'. How on earth are ppl finding this ok.
WilliamBologna
What should be the punishment for a joke you don't like? Be specific.
MaladaptedMedic
It's not okay, but he shouldn't get a year in prison.
HeretiCorpHasAnDFAcannon
10 years to make a statement to all the other arseholes. Don't make jokes about killing other races. And don't support the Nazi ideology.
MaladaptedMedic
I'm not defending his character, I'm defending his right to make a joke. He's not preaching Hitler, he made his dog do a dumb thing
TheOtherOneWithTheHair
So when will you demand 10 years for this guy, who not only kept his job, but wasn't even banned from Twatter? https://imgur.com/FZTCms5
SmolTenk
Apparently Hitler is meme first and mass murderer second.
HeretiCorpHasAnDFAcannon
Some ppl never got a proper education. I wish those people could stay a week in a concentration camp in 1944, just to experience the horrors
TheZompocalypse
So you want to put people in concentration camps? There's a guy who used to do that years ago and we didn't like it back then either.
CrunchyCloud
Oh noes! A joke about the Holocaust! The horror! Grow up.
ThatDiceGuy
As someone who had a great grandfather die in the holocaust these jokes don't bother me.
Tunaccat
It's not a "meme" when he's pro-ethnostate.
Crazycube
Can I get a link because all I see is that he against it.
Tunaccat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqdoMCPBpKs
Tunaccat
You're what we like to call a "useful idiot".
Lunux
You're what we like to call "authoritarian cunt"
Tunaccat
I'm not the one advocating for an ethnostate. The only fascist I see is the guy in the OP.
Crazycube
Got a time stamp my dude? Because I have watched this and the poor audio quality, I don't hear him supporting an ethnostate.
Tunaccat
The guy talking to and defending count is Tommy Robinson. A neo-nazi and friend of count who calls his followers to "get ready for war".
Chrsstffr
What crime exactly is he being charged with?
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cntdn
You can think whatever you want, it's broadcasting hate speech to millions of people that is illegal.
Jaynecobb7
thought crime
cntdn
Yeah nice one he was only thinking the racist commentary and the 3M views it got on YT were all people reading his fucking mind.
bigusdigus
Thought crime
eagerophiuchus
It wasn't thought. He said things and took actions. You're welcome to disagree with the verdict, but don't misrepresent the facts.
Vybors
Don’t be slow, son. He recorded a video of himself repeatedly saying ‘gas the Jews’ and put it in YouTube.
frostybox
and why is he in cuffs? WTF?
MerToo
he used a pug. If it had been a dachshund or an Alsatian we'd be fine about this.
Hyippy
FYI this is the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYslEzHbpus&bpctr=1521575909
NanoPi
why quarantine videos this way? youtube has such a problem with the video that they take away everything that isn't the video.
CVStp
bad teeth
mjulnozhk
Thought crime Even a joke is enough. Idk why people are downvoting. This shit is so 1984. What the fuck. Never traveling there again.
cntdn
Recording himself and uploading it to youtube counts as just thinking, does it? Don't misrepresent his actions.
mjulnozhk
Don't misrepresent??? While you're trying to misrepresent that this is even worth a Court's time? That this requires punishment? Fascist!
cntdn
I never said that, you daft cunt. I think this whole thing's gone way too far, but he didn't just think the video, did he?
KeeleonOhms
Someone with power didnt get a joke he was making.
FuckingTurtleBear
It ah, wooshed over my friends head, could you explain it for me
KeeleonOhms
A judge ruled his joke was racist because he thought it was racism not a joke.
fantasticlight
Hate speech
somerandomtwat
nothing about what he did is hate speech.
fantasticlight
In your opinion but it's a law in place since Communications Act 2003.
somerandomtwat
no its a fact. for to to be hate speech it has to be hateful or an attack. this was neither
fantasticlight
Well no it isn't a fact. Rights and their limits is quite a complex and nuanced philosophical issue and have been for centuries.
GWXerxes
F R E E S P E A C H
asliceofpizza
S P E A C H F R E E
asliceofpizza
P E A C H E S F R E
SanSamis
Dank and disorderly
Moguntia
Hate speach. He made a pug going happiky bonkers over the phrase “you want to gas the jews“ and gave him treads for performing ... 1/2
Moguntia
... the nazi salute on youtube. He was convicted for hate speach and is awaiting the sentence. Maximum sentence would be two months jail 2/2
somerandomtwat
i mean its not hate speech. for it to be hate speech it would have to be hateful or an attack.your comment is misleading
RedDwarfIV
Not according to the law. Which is why its a stupid law.
Moguntia
He is lucky not being in Germany. Our laws would have room for more than that. Just saying those are the laws...
somerandomtwat
thank god the laws on this in the UK are not as bad
WilliamHuskerAdama
Meanwhile, self-proclaimed neo-nazis can freely march and protest.
TheFrenchGirl
Seems like op wasn't too accurate, I wonder if he makes the difference or not.
Moguntia
Well, that is what a few google results say, when you skip breibart and such....
savagestarshine
I think a pug acting like a nazi sounds like he's ridiculing nazis. Pugs are so derpy & stupid looking anything they do becomes ridiculous
UrKungFuNoGood
stop
quattroformaggix4
I get that. The lighthearted 'you wanna has the Jews' made me make a groan/dry wretch combo. Definitely distasteful but illegal?
somerandomtwat
people find different stuff funny, some people dont get offended by things and can find them humorous. there is nothing wrong with being
Daphault1
Yea... that is fucked up. I can see how that could be lumped in as hate speech. And only a POS thinks genocide is funny.
tehmatser
U must be fun at parties
Daphault1
Like at the Nazi Party?
somerandomtwat
the genocide is not what is funny. teh fact that nazis are so evil is the whole premise of teh joke. not to mention im sure you have
somerandomtwat
laughed at a joke to do with something "horrible" in your life (maybe a communist starvation joke, a ww2 joke, a KKK joke or anything else)
GuardsmanMiku
just because its an untasteful joke doesnt make it fucking illegal
RedDwarfIV
Genocide was not the butt of the joke. Nazis were.
Crowlands
HOW DARE HE MOCK NAZIS! How DARE he ridicule DAS FUHRER! He belongs in prison for saying NAZIS ARE BAD!
somerandomtwat
but its factulay not hate speech. for it to fall under that it would have to be hateful or an attack
SecondWind90
It's just a childish joke jesus christh lighten up
unicorninmypants
That's what Hitler said right before he died. "It's just a prank, bro."
somerandomtwat
if you are actually against this man i hope you know that this comment makes you a hypocrite. your not allowed to make jokes about nazis
Lunux
So every joke you don't like is wrong? Who's the arbiter of which jokes are ok or not? And what if you said a joke that I thought was wrong?
OwenMillerOnline
Yeah, he totally deserves to be imprisoned for a JOKE. People like you are the truly disgusting ones.
Moguntia
Maximum sentence for performing “hate speach“ is jail. That guy was found guilty for that, noone knows, whether he will get that or not yet
OwenMillerOnline
There is no such thing as hate speech. This is insane. Anyone who supports it is insane. Willingly tossing your rights away, amazing.
Daphault1
Where I you reading that I agree with the sentencing? Simply an acknowledgement of the prosecution's argument and the law's interpretation.
Daphault1
*Where are...
OwenMillerOnline
Fair enough, my apologies. There are countless people in this comment thread defending it though, so forgive me.
overboardAnt
Genocide isn't funny but that joke was. Almost everyone giggles when hearing about it. Most people understand the difference.
joeyjojosharknado
It is a juvenile and disgusting joke. People shouldn't be imprisoned for making disgusting jokes though. Slippery Orwellian slope.
Vybors
He won’t be. First offence - community service of a fine.
Mooxim
I don't think criminalising hate speech is a slippery slope.
joeyjojosharknado
Criminalizing bad jokes is.
Mooxim
It hasn't slipped much yet and I'd much rather our laws than the rampant nazis they have to put up with in the USA.
GuckFoogle
It's the slipperiest, who decides what hate speech is? Hate speech is as nebulous as 'grossly offensive' with how much it gets thrown around
greyfoxv1
"Mark Meechan, 30, recorded his girlfriend's pug, Buddha, responding to statements such as "gas the Jews" & "Sieg Heil" by raising its paw"
greyfoxv1
How convenient that OP left out the part's that wouldn't gin up pitchforks & instead focused on "free speech".
somerandomtwat
he did talk about the sieg heil tho. and the other point is irreverent
Crowlands
I'd include it. Because it shows that MOCKING NAZIS is a crime now.
Binerexis
It's a fucking joke, dude, lighten the fuck up
greyfoxv1
No, OP lied to get a manipulate the community. Both of them can go sit on something sharp.
Binerexis
Of course, something this ridiculous is exactly how the nazi party wanted to be remembered; as a punchline. /s
Binerexis
You're right, they should give the death penalty for teaching a dog to do a nazi salute as a joke. /s
HatsfordaEmprah
Communications act 2003 'grossly offensive'
WowMuchFuni
You guys don't have a first amendment, do you? (Just cheap mocjery, don't crucify me)
FuzzyX
The United States barely has a First Amendment when allowed Free Speach must not violate the many exceptions.
prodmerc
Fucking ridiculous.
RingSting
Offense is taken not given. Apparently youtube didn't receive a single complaint either, police just thought they would take the initiative.
l8lurker
That’s what you get for leaving the EU.
crsdoom
I didn't expect that from the country that gave us monty python..
superanth
Jeebus if that was a law in the US, half the country would be locked up.
TheSealcubclubbingclub
So, selective government censorship? Where have I heard that before, comrades?
JarlmannViking
I thought the main “evidence” the prosec used was him saying he wanted to teach the dog something related to the phrase “Gas the news” /1
JarlmannViking
The most offensive thing he could think of relating to nazis. And that phrase “most offensive” is what they used to nail the sentence on him
prodmerc
Offensive to who? What the fuck, this is the country that fought hard and won against Nazis, some jokes about them don't offend anyone.
TheGingestOfMinges
If by fought hard you mean fucked off to their rock leaving their allies to die and only coming back when most of the dirty work was done
FuzzyX
Yeah one step along the road to Fascism.
YoWhatUpGlasgow
IIRC it was one Jewish group that pushed for it (whilst many others acknowledged it for what it was, a joke)
RedDwarfIV
They didn't push for it. Scottish Police called a member of the Jewish Council of Scotland forth to testify that it offended him.
Vybors
He posted a public video where he repeatedly says “gas the Jews” “Gas the Jews” “want to gas the Jews?” Wtf did he think would happen?
somerandomtwat
you just said gas the jews 3 times. should i call teh police or are you gonna hand yourself in?
Kyuubles
There was that person on twitter arrested after thy tweeted a poor-taste joke about a number of people were knocked down by a bin lorry
YoWhatUpGlasgow
What I remember about this was that it was offensive when they did it, but not when the newspapers shared it with a much larger audience
Kyuubles
I feel there is a massive difference between posting something on FB or Twitter, where people have to actively follow you, to on the street.
YoWhatUpGlasgow
It was the irony of the papers saying how grossly offensive it was whilst reproducing it word for word.
Andalite
So, hate speech
somerandomtwat
for it to be hate speech it has to be hateful or an attack. so this would not even count as that
nwall123
To be fair, isn’t it illegal in Germany to perform a nazi salute or have nazi paraphernalia? I can get why Europe is more harsh on it.
MikeyTheMighty
there was a case of a German youtuber having to pay some thousand euros for saying he will deport striking train conductors to auschwitz
CaptCounterCulture
Nothing says justice like throwing a guy in jail for a year for making his dog do something funny as a joke.
Lunux
Is saying the Holocaust didn't happen considered illegal too? Their Muslim migrants have no problem saying it loud and proud
Andalite
They're idiots, but they shouldn't be thrown in jail ffs.
SmolTenk
It is. Various muslim preachers got fined or were forbidden from speaking in public.
armandraynal
It is illegal in France, Robert Faurisson did go to jail for trying to prove that gas chambers never existed.
nwall123
I can’t speak for that as I’m in America but people say it didn’t happen here too and people just roll their eyes or try to prove them wrong
RazorAndBladeSavedTheDay
the only good thing that could come from this is if he is quoted at some point as saying "I did it for the Lulz!"
nwall123
Not throw a person in prison for it. But enough to intimidate a person with charges for it, especially a well known guy with an audience
Andalite
That's incredibly dumb. First of all, human beings have the right to free speech. And if offensive speech isn't protected, then there is no
SmolTenk
Only illegal if you show them in public. Fine and/prison for up to threeyears. You might also be charged with attempting to incite>
monochrony
also german here. yes, it is. but there are exceptions for artistic and historical context. this includes satire and comedy.
monochrony
for example "obersalzberg", a series of sketches based on "stromberg" (german version of "the office").
Treblaine
So, is Scotland Yard going to raid the offices of the BBC any minute now?
fafnir77
Will they go back and watch old monty python sketches and arrest all of them now too? They had plenty of nazi jokes in their show.
kaztas
Depends if it was the law is ex post facto
fafnir77
RIP satire
DamnedAustin
This wasn't satire.
lazerzpewpew
Sounds extremely subjective. Anything could offend anyone.
UnremarkablyInteresting
I'll see you in court.
TripleLock
Yuuuup, that's the beauty of the law if you are an authoritarian asshole, the problem if you are a good person
Chrsstffr
How dare you say such a thing.
AlzaqT
The law is based upon how your action/speech is perceived
Dragon10449
Which is fucking stupid cause how one person/group perceives it is not the same as others. So how the fuck is one POV better than anothers??
WannabeMaverick
His sentencing grossly offends me. Should I press charges.
ScampAnim
Yes
fnhngest
most laws “sound subjective” before there’s an actual court and judge applying them with all the particulars of the case
Stegaosaurus
That's the point.
edgeofadhesion
It's because he played Hitler's speeches to the dog while filming and uploaded it to YouTube, not because he made a joke.
Dragon10449
So he played a part of documented history in a video? Will my history professor get convinced for showing footage of ww2 Germany now?
Kitdivine
No it’s not anything offending anyone OP’s post is highly misleading 1/2
Kitdivine
The codes do expressly include Nazi symbols and salutes. Basically the UK has some laws that say don’t do Nazi shit.
Tunaccat
"Sounds subjective" lol If only we had a group of people who's job it was to interpret the written law...
Traja01
Generally, that's what juries are for. To act as the "conscience of the community" and determine if it is "grossly offensive."
TheShaz109
there was no jury in his trial, just a judge who didn't get the joke.
Traja01
Is he not entitled to a jury trial over there, or did he opt for a court trial?
Traja01
That being said, principles of free speech should preclude criminal liability in all but certain cases (defamation, fighting words).
Thesimpleman
Haha yeah I was about to say
Gaucib
They don't really have free speech in the UK though
Traja01
I take that back, there should be no such thing as criminal defamation.
seanmillion
Spot on. The UK's judiciary is currently aware of a substantial disparity between the public definition of 'offensive' and its legal one. >
seanmillion
>So hopefully Mr. Dankula appeals to a superior court which should hopefully be less eager to exclude the video's context.
Andalite
Exactly. Now you're cooking with gas. Probably Jews, but hey.
lazerzpewpew
You made me snort my coffee. Plus one. Also, I'm grossly offended. Jail for you.
Andalite
~Just UK Things~
DerWolf1309
The judge said offensiveness could be determined objectively. You can't make this shit up.
hippy80
Bad taste isn't a crime. This should never have got to court.
TheRX7GoesBRAAAAAAAAAAAP
honestly true, i taught my dog how to shake and she waves her paw up in the same motion because of obvious reasons, prison for this is
TheRX7GoesBRAAAAAAAAAAAP
absurd, is it not tasteful? absolutely but losing a year of your life over a prank that school children do daily is insane
lazerzpewpew
Where is the dividing line between offensive & 'grossly' offensive? Bad taste is bad taste, but criminalizing speech cripples the people.
dirtehscandi
Remember y’all, stupid internet jokes aren’t acceptable but this is:
Wolitman
Trying to use a picture with no research whatsoever. Read first reply, these 15 upvotes say a lot too.
Drewcember
Of course. Everybody on here researches the shit they want to defend, but don’t when it fuels their bigotry.
Hyippy
Had zero downvotes when I came across it. Funny thing is after this protest people called for stricter laws. I wonder if that played a 1/?
Hyippy
Role in the laws used to convict the guy above. Wouldn't surprise me. 2/2
Hyippy
This is a protest in London. Apologies were offered by the community and arrests were made under similar legislation as above. Link below
Hyippy
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Islamist_demonstration_outside_the_Embassy_of_Denmark_in_London
MySpiritAnimalIsTheUnpopularOpinionPuffin
I'm guessing Daniel Tosh, Anthony Jeselnik, Louis C.K., Jim Jeffries and Jimmy Carr aren't allowed to entertain in your country either.
LookingForWorkInColorado
Jim Jeffries isn't a comedian. He's just an Australian guy. There are millions of Australians with that same sense of humour. Overrated.
BigRigCA
Didn't he die?
TheBlackVan
It's because "elephants aren't orange you fucking retard!"
Frogthebountyhunter
Especially Joey Diaz
Treblaine
Those are rich celebrities, the defendant is a poor Scotsman so OF COURSE he's treated differently.
Jomini001
Well most of them are pretty famous and wealthy. Not easy targets.
TheAngryMarineBiologist
Difference here is he has no power to stop a crusading CPS officer
BellaKiss
Not convicted of offensive humour, convicted of a hate crime for the 'Sieg Heil' and 'gas the Jews' comments. Still a bit rubbish.
somerandomtwat
but the point is that humour is being called a hate crime
smashsouls
Those are people with power & money, much harder to arrest.
eruditic
Jeselnik ran out of fucks in 1981
TerriMessy
Jimmy Carr is often on prime time TV. OK it's tamer than his stand up but still risky for whatever he's doing
PD78
Until the OP links to a credible source where we could actually read the reasoning behind the verdict (and the actual charges)...
PD78
... I'd suggest waiting before you condemn the nation. It's entirely possible the verdict is actually "He violated owner's rights"
CellsReinvent
That's not the way we do things in the UK. We read a biased snippet, then jump to a kneejerk conclusion and ignore any contrary evidence.
PD78
So far, only Breitbart and other extremist sites seem to write about this.
BellaKiss
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-43478925
BellaKiss
Wasn't convicted of offensive humour... its fucking Scotland, that's their everyday language!
KnewestKnight
As long as they only mock White Male Christians they are fine. Blasphemy laws only protect minorities.
metalheadmafia
Jimmy Carr has said way, way, way worse jokes. And he sells out massive theaters on the UK...what a double standard!
fantasticlight
This guy wasn't performing.
OlanDyurai
A YouTube video that's comedic isn't a performance? Since when?
fantasticlight
Since his defense in court quite literally claimed it was not intended for public consumption.
MySpiritAnimalIsTheUnpopularOpinionPuffin
exactly my point
HighlySexualLobster
They're fine. They're actually funny.
TheOtherOneWithTheHair
Found the communist
HighlySexualLobster
I didn't realize only communists had a sense of humor. Thats why Yakov is such an icon i guess.
TheOtherOneWithTheHair
Judging by your reaction to this case, you're the only people who don't have a sense of humor
HighlySexualLobster
Consider, if you have no sense of taste, you'll eat any old shit because its all the same. Otherwise, you're a bit more discerning.
HighlySexualLobster
This case is an edge one. Those comics mentioned are demonstrably funny. They make a living doing it. Dankula? He has a tougher row to hoe.
somerandomtwat
how dare people have a different sense of humour than you. to the gulag with them
ItMayBeHelpfulToNote
What NO! I want to see this guy !! Such charisma
FussyZeus
To be fair Daniel Tosh isn't entertaining anywhere.
moose9377
Came looking for this reply <3
FussyZeus
Whatever does it for you, glad I could help.
ducksinarow
Anywhere at all...
SlothMasterJ
I’m glad I got to see him on Tosh Tour Twenty Ten cuz besides his most recent special, the show has gone down hill. Miss his stand up.
yeahitis
Well, I mean, probably not Louis...
DoublevBomb
He's funny because he spent his career convincing us he's exactly the kind of guy that would do what he did, and was oblivious about it.
KinderSurpriseMF
Love Louis CK. :)
TCooley79
Be careful he might sexually assault you over the phone
KinderSurpriseMF
In person would be more realistic
Ryanator50
I'd rather be sexually assaulted over the phone than drugged and raped by bill cosby
JerkStoreCalling
Are those the only 2 options?
MySpiritAnimalIsTheUnpopularOpinionPuffin
Unless someone really wants to see his dick. Everyone has their fetish.
ICheckUsernameAndSuch
As a straight man, fuck it, I'd watch him do it at this point.
hungitalianohwaitthisisntgrindr
ill admit... after all the buzz i’m pretty curious.
conradfr
Well he got demonized even though he asked each time ...
MySpiritAnimalIsTheUnpopularOpinionPuffin
He didn't ask each time though. The problem is he used his position and their trust to pleasure himself in front of them. I don't believe he
MySpiritAnimalIsTheUnpopularOpinionPuffin
should have been categorized with people like Cosby and Weinstein. Cosby drugged women and Weinstein raped women. C.K. didn't touch them.
Somethingnotveryoriginal
Comedians do comendy shows, with the correct context for comedy, even offensive comedy.
Somethingnotveryoriginal
This guy admitted that he made the video for the enjoyment of himself, his girlfriend and a few friends. Can't use "I'm just a comedian"
RedDwarfIV
In the video, he explains that the context at the beginning.
somerandomtwat
im confused. whats your point? that only if its your job are you allowed to make certain jokes (genuine question not trying to put words in
somerandomtwat
your mouth)
Vyrro
Dont f ol rget bill burr
IWasToldThereWasCake
The laddddddddies
Arconyte
I will be sure not to f ol rget him.
Vyrro
You wanna get a cup of covfefe?
PartyMarty92
Do they show South Park in the UK?
Kemyo
Just not that episode with the queen in ig
CaribouNuggets
South Park puts a disclaimer at the beginning saying you shouldn't watch it. They can show whatever they want.
RetConMan
Yeah, just try watching the Super Best Friends episode(S05E03) online legitimately anywhere.
Gravevoid
They have Muhammad in that episode.
lordtzar
That's what I was thinking. South Park does waaaaaaaay worse things all the time and the creators being arrested for that shit would be
AranaDiscoteca
I don't really see why this was a thing with the dog... but, with South Park, all of those way worse things? People get comeuppance.
AranaDiscoteca
Everyone knows Cartman is a POS. The episode where Stan took down Mormonism had the Mormon later call him out for being a dick, etc.
lordtzar
FUCKING INSANE. I'm so fucking glad I don't live in a shit country like that.
Nemoxx
SP was heavily inspired by British comedy legends. We absolutely can say worse stuff than US on TV.
Nemoxx
This case seems to be a problem because of a perception of being anti-semetic (more stories appearing). Courts putting fear ahead of justice
GiddyKipper
Genuinely, this is a rarity. @op may be exaggerating a bit. We're hardly a dictatorship - we have freedom of speech; no racist/nazism tho
lordtzar
Unless the bigotry is from the islamic apparently
HatsfordaEmprah
Yes.
ChimiFuckinChanga
Then what the fucking fuck?
rdement
That makes no sense bruh!
SuckItBlue
THEN WHAT THE FUCK!?
Krympehl
the difference here is that South Park brings in more money consistently
IDontAgreeWithAnything
Did they arrest the cartoons?
ProfessorDumbass
They censored Mohammad but not the holocaust
PartyMarty92
And kyles speech at the end
Acefowl
And they had no problems with the episode where Cartman admired and basically became Hitler?
DownWithYouAll
The law does not apply to rich people dont be silly.
NightButtFairyHawk
South Park isn't some shlub in Scottland though.
AranaDiscoteca
I think they'd state the difference as being that Cartman is pretty much evil which acknowledges Hitler as bad? I guess?
Acefowl
While I do believe you are right in stating that, I also can't believe he turned the dog anti-Semitic with his antics.
digitalist1
The UK is pretty shit. Right extremists on one side, left extremists on the other. No free speech, and no weed.
mackzuhmill
I can deal with everything else but...no weed? wtfff
l8rz
I'm in the UK, I got weed.
TheRX7GoesBRAAAAAAAAAAAP
im gonna need a season and episode number pls and thank you
Acefowl
Season 8, episode 3: http://southpark.wikia.com/wiki/The_Passion_of_the_Jew
txtmylife
Ricky Gervais?
wa27
should be arrested for being offensively unfunny.
Winndypops
Ricky did express concern for this case a few months back, hopefully he will speak about it again.
thisaintmyname
https://twitter.com/rickygervais/status/976115287991910400?s=19
Winndypops
Fantastic news, great spot there bud.
1metalnation
The amount of aids in that thread of people just spouting off idiocy is absurd. "Jokes cant be jokes" "Muslims are EVIL"
cyanideslushie
Jimmy Carr and fucking Frankie Boyle are from Britain and get away with much more offensive shit. I guess it’s a matter of popularity
LigLuryJr
Frankie is on a different level to Jimmy, infact anyone...
Josefbugman1543
I think it's also due to them being funny and not just spouting things that only internet edgelords think are funny.
somerandomtwat
i dont find it funny so it should be illegal
Josefbugman1543
Saying that the reason he is being arrested is that you can't claim "satire" if it's just shouting insults, maybe shouldn't be illegal tho.
ShouldersDeepInAHorse
And what political wing their humor flies under.
no4o2xf
But wait! How many followers did this guy have!?
DorthLous
Didn't 3 millions people watch that video (0 complaint), before a policeman found it due to keyword?
Rapiecage
123k. Enough to get noticed and become a warning, not enough to get impunity.
Steffn
But only since the accusations, before that it were less than 500
Rapiecage
so...they went after a literal nobody, for wrongthink
ProfessorDumbass
I think we need to see whether this guy's videos are comedy or nazi hate
rottingcarcasswithmaggots
He has personally stated that he does not hold any resentment for any race or religion, in fact many Jewish people have come to his support.
Deunderscoremoralize
I hold no position, but for the sake of being the devil's advocate: wouldn't that be exactly what he'd say if he did harbor some resentment?
Florky
His YouTube is like half making fun of people and news other half is comedy like making a parody of the countries song from animaniacs.
quattroformaggix4
The important question- what's the dogs position on racial hygiene & does he resemble Charlie Chaplin in his markings?
ImSmallPleaseHoldMe
He once did a video about animal rights groups want to stop pug breeding and his dog started making hitler noises
TheOtherOneWithTheHair
We have, they're not. The suggestions that they are the latter are malicious lies
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TheOtherOneWithTheHair
They are comedy though, the Like:Dislike ratio was through the roof and the comments filled with people saying how hilarious it was...
TheWuggening
Not only that, but how would it change anything if they WERE hateful?
valen00
"gas the jews" incitement to violence.