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Because its on Amazon.com and not on Netflix or HBO its an underdog that doesn't get the attention it more than deserves. "THE MAN IN THE HIGH CASTLE" was the best new show of 2015 and it's set in an alternate history where the Nazis & the Japanese won WWII and conquered America. It's one of the most realistic dystopian tales you will ever see. The writing is superb as well as the acting. This isn't a "shoot-em-up" type of dystopia. It's better. Since the Nazis are in total control they have already exterminated all of their enemies & undesirables. This means that there is no real resistance against them save a mere handful of people whose only real crime is thinking differently.
The writing for "The Man in the High Castle" doesn't offer simple nor easy solutions for us to view its villains. Because of its tactful teleplay the show allows us to sympathize and even possibly root for the Nazi and Japanese characters who are and work for their totalitarian governments. The reason? The Nazi and Japanese characters aren't one dimensional. They have self interests of their own. They are as human as anybody else, cogs in a greater wheel, run by higher people whom they work for, and for whom loyalty and honor are frequently on the line. What's surprising is that even in a World run by Hitler, there are those that have even darker tendencies than the Fuhrer. Thanks to good writing, the show toys with this relative notion of what is a good Nazi or a bad one. Our heroes here are couple of Americans, broken and defeated, whom have inadvertently stumbled into asking questions about a new & different world that is free from tyranny but the answers they discover are fleeting at best. This is a terrific slow burning but suspenseful story about the battle of ideas, espionage, & loyalties tested. I think it was the best new show of 2015.
jm0502
@OP Just finished the last episode. Cant wait to see season 2
RogueStriker87
So it's Wolfenstein The New Order with no BJ Blazkowicz or Nazi robot dogs?
SteakBabies
Not yet! Fingers crossed
LookingForMyKids
"Let me post an opinion and then get mad when other people disagree with me with replies!!" ~OP
WildYucatanMan
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StraightShootingGentleman
Agreed
WildYucatanMan
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youloveus
I was so pumped for this concept but the writing/ acting was brutal.
WildYucatanMan
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madmalkavian
It's from a book by Phillip K. Dick. The same guy that wrote, "Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep", that went on to be Blade Runner.
housev1l
In the case of Blade Runner, the movie is far superior to the book.
PraiseMelora
I big chunk of PKD's books and short stories have been made into movies.
WayLatetotheParty
Don't forget a scanner darkly and minority report
BoogerMcFarlane
Is it just me or was the show way better than the book?
hitman19113
Book was Average at best so that should not be hard
jonestown
The show was completely different from the book.
CatsIsTheAnswer
Not just you, but not the average opinion either. Man in the high castle is considered one of Dick's masterpieces and won him a Hugo award
Impgnome
Adjustment Beareau, Total Recall, and Paycheck as well.
CatsIsTheAnswer
Actually I think pointing those out doesn't help people understanding what kind of fiction Dick wrote :P
Impgnome
I was more pointing out that his stories have become pretty iconic in popular culture even though no one knows who he is.
MenaceToSobriety
This show requires an attention span, but is fantastic if you have one.
ChaosxNetwork
It was all premise but no substance. Very mundane.
jamiethebird
I didn't enjoy the book so I didn't bother with the TV series
WildYucatanMan
You should know by now that book adaptations to TV and film always cater to a different audience then the book readers, try the Pilot
ShartyParty
I'm like 7 eps into the first season and it's pretty meh imho
WildYucatanMan
It gets slower in the middle but the ending really is worth it, the slow build to the pay off is great
Neutrinus
CALM THE F*UCK DOWN PEOPLE! Everything OP says it's getting downvoted without no reason. Even if he says "Hi" gets downvoted? Seriously wtf!
TossABabyYodaToYourWitcher
Probably because op is a piece of shit that doesn't let people have their own opinions
WildYucatanMan
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DinoKebab
The reason why not many people talk about it is because it is bad.
postbluex
OP: "I like the show." Some ppl: "I don't." OP: "What's your reasoning?" (EVERYTHING OP SAYS FROM HERE ON OUT GETS DOWNVOTED!) Calm tf down.
RedWebster
John and Helen are the only characters who actually do anything for me. I cannot stand Juliana.
MMPRMastodon
Then ending though? How convoluted can you make an ending?
WildYucatanMan
that ending was awesome. what did you think was convoluted ?
Cowlerson
Although i enjoyed the show, after reading the comments, i sse that OP REALLY likes this show and REALLY dislikes differing opinions
avidatheist
Seriously. I've seen literal paid shills defend shit less vehemently than OP is this show.
WildYucatanMan
Me after getting my check from AMAZON https://m.popkey.co/8ee5f8/3ez6q.gif
AVoiceOfReason
I went through and read his comments. They seem very innocuous and focused on defending the show rather than attacking people. I (1)
AVoiceOfReason
think the only people opposed to a differing opinion are the downvote mobs that don't want to read his counterpoints. I know I'll get (2)
AVoiceOfReason
downvoted simply for not joining in but you guys could really be less defensive. Saying "It's necessarily slow exposition" isn't hostile.
WildYucatanMan
I only ask people to justify their criticism,
WildYucatanMan
I only ask people to justify their criticism,
MundaneFinality
I went and looked at those criticisms. All I see are people saying "this show failed to capture my attention or imagination" and you //
MundaneFinality
// telling them that the premise has never been done before and is inherently interesting, which has nothing to do with the simple fact //
MundaneFinality
// that it bored people.
ChineseTakeAway
WildYucatanMan
I dun wrong
UTMothGirl
Can you call it "asking for justification" when you're being a little hostile?
missbelled
They don't need to do that. You are not the show's protector.
WildYucatanMan
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AVoiceOfReason
"How so?" isn't a demand. They can either choose to engage in conversation or they can ignore the comment. What's wrong with him inquiring?
Thekingofbeans
Because that's only the start. Then he tells people they're wrong for finding it boring or saying they must not have actually watched it.
WildYucatanMan
fettuccine
lol. how ironic
DontcallmeLen
Would have been better made by the BBC in 6 episodes. God it was drawn out. I liked the premise, but even a movie might have worked better.
fettuccine
it was a good show. but it could have been a movie
OOSpaceDwarf
I have to say, I felt more in connection with the story of the infighting between brutal oppressors than the actual protagonists
WildYucatanMan
Likewise
ineptusMechanicus
Lots of people did. It wasn't that good.
WildYucatanMan
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SummersSR2
Dude... people have opinions. Don't be a little bitch about it.
roburtguy
I agree. It was alright
WildYucatanMan
the hell it wasn't. give specifics
ineptusMechanicus
It got really bogged down in the middle. Just went nowhere for about 3 episodes.
WildYucatanMan
That's it? I had the same problem but understood its slower middle was necessary exposition.
WildYucatanMan
The opening episodes and the closing ones are riveting that I didn't mind that it got slower in the middle because its build did pay off
ineptusMechanicus
...yeh but Lucifer didn't suffer from that
Panixs
How can it be the best tv show of the year with only two good episodes? The middle dragged and turned a lot of people off.
WildYucatanMan
Did you actually see it?
ekzeko
He did.
ineptusMechanicus
Watch the whole thing.
MedicalSideOfImgur
The fuck sorta dumbass question is this ya wankstain?
WildYucatanMan
This is THE INTERNET. You would be surprised how much people talk about something they've never seen ;)
pwrbkdude
Actually we talked about it LAST YEAR when it was NEW.
ImHereForTheHaHa
No, it was not.
DarthReznor
Post is weak, but the sentiment is correct. A lengthier post going into real detail would be a good way to show how amazing this show is
TicklesCripples
I liked the show, but I like almost all historical dramas. I really liked 11.22.63. Can't decide which I liked more... (1/2)
TicklesCripples
The Last Kingdom was really great too, and I don't hear anyone talking about it either (2/2)
DeepwaterJew
TIL amazon.com is an underdog
gooblegobbleoneofus
Mr Robot, The Leftovers, Daredevil, Stranger Things, River, and Sense8 are all great shows and all of them are faster paced than High Castle
gooblegobbleoneofus
Broadchurch, Jessica Jones, Foley's War, The Killing, and Breaking Bad are slower but just as good. High Castle only has 1 good actor
Nessimon
I loved mr. Robot. Looking forward to second season on HBO Nordic.
Natertoots
I'd say that Peaky Blinders is the best show nobodies talk about but, to each his own.
Swiftninja
icameinlikeafeckingball
I’d agree except I’m pretty sure people talk about Peaky Blinders. Awesome show tho in any case.
Eastcoastthoughtprocess
Peaky blinders is fantastic.
ekzeko
Actually the Left Overs is the best show no one is talking about.
jeffreybaratheon
I heard season two was amazing but season one was so boring I couldn't finish it.
Natertoots
It was good for a bit. After a while I was just too confused to keep going. Hell of a sound track though. Maybe I'll try again someday.
dizzysn
Fantastic show. One of my all time favorites.
Pcolton11
I love that damn show.
Theadversary333
I thoroughly enjoyed it. Season two was pretty damn intense
Omega156
The show is fine, but I can't see how such a small number of people disappearing could have such a massive global effect.
ekzeko
3000 people died on 911 and it has transformed the entire Zeitgeist. Imagine 2% of the pop.
Omega156
Yeah but in the show, almost everyone lost 1 or more family members. I find that hard to believe if only 2% are gone.
FlatPlutoSociety
Did that get good? I watched the first few episodes of the first season and I was just like "OH GOD, MOPE HARDER."
gooblegobbleoneofus
It got incredible
FlatPlutoSociety
Good to hear. I may marathon it at some point. I'm gonna have a lot of free time in the next few weeks.
CatsIsTheAnswer
You know what was the best show that very few talk about? Justified. And now it's over and I'll never be ok with it
ekzeko
Just watch the bridge with DIane Krueger. Its got that country feel... and Diane Krueger.
WildYucatanMan
Well maybe S2 , I hear, but S1 was too "ABC Family" for its own good.
WildYucatanMan
TMITHC only has one season so far, S2 will air later this year, but based on that alone I brought this up
ekzeko
There was quite the polemic advertisement campain in new york at the launch. Evryone talked about that.
ekzeko
The concepts were stronger though, especially the sect stuff. Plus it set up characters solid enough to withstand a slow season 2.
ekzeko
Season 1 is solid in my book.
asspickle
The comment section got me like
WildYucatanMan
If I post that "puppies are cute" it will also get downvoted
Neutrinus
Yeah man, I'm so sorry for all this dumbf*cks downvoting everything even your "hi" posts , so disappointed.
YooooooooImHereNow
Wrong.
Jon70one
I thought it was boring and I really wanted to like it.
Decoyape11
Yeah the pacing was long and drawn out. It wasn't compelling either. I really wanted to feel for the show. The idea is awesome! It's okay.
rightcalf
Me too and I thought the acting was terrible.
dogneely
Thought the same
Atlasraven
I felt the same way. The marketing presented a thrill-a-minute alt history masterpiece but the plot makes slow, shambling progress.
FracturedxButxWhole
Thank you. Glad I'm not the only one.
jalenp69
Yeah a friend was watching it and we watched like 3 episodes and I literally fell asleep
DefinitelyNotTheLochNessMonster
I read the book and I literally cant remember half of it because it was so boring
GrandOppai
I read the book, saw one episode and couldn't watch any more...
althgrea1
The book is the same. Boring then it gets neat
KillingTlme
Agreed
ChromeBadger
Incredibly boring. Then I felt the "shocking Nazi" bits were thrown in and immediately forgotten. Kinda phoned in the whole thing.
MotownC
It wasn't that much of a struggle to watch but the last episode was hurtfully bad. Investment vs return = nope.
unimportantname
Thank you! That's how I felt!
behindtheblack
Really cool plot/universe. Inconsistent acting and BAD dialogue...
whatseventhepointt
I mostly could only care about Rufus Sewells scenes. They were mostly great.
thunder2132
Same here. I got three episodes in and gave up. It was on my list for so long too.
CapnMcSeeJay
I agree, watched the first 4 episodes and was so bored. Really didn't hold my attention
WhatRaySay
I'm obsessed with the alternative history aspect of it, that's what's kept me watching cause it does feel achingly slow at times
Gawky
do you know alternatehistory.com its the best site
thorgilja
I also friggin' hate Juliana. She is literally the worst. At everything.
WhatRaySay
RIGHT?! I think if I wasn't so consistently annoyed by her, her boyfriend, and Joe, I'd enjoy the show a lot more
thorgilja
Cheers to that, friend. I love the show except for the three out of four American main characters who aren't Nazis. How fucked is that? :P
WhatRaySay
seriously - my favorite characters have either been Nazis or members of the Japanese government lol
BlastedSand
I couldn't even finish the first episode.
actualseal
Same here
loveallthebunnies
Ditto. It sounded so interesting I also really wanted to like it. But the characters felt flat and the torturings got so depressing.
WildYucatanMan
Yes the middle got a bit slow but it was necessary exposition. The opening and closing acts were riveting.
WildYucatanMan
Besides the story is innately interesting, the very concept itself is crazy
tcsv23
Hey man, fuck those commie shitbirds. I liked it too.
WhatRaySay
dude I have no idea what the downvotes are about. I thought it was slow, but I did really enjoy it overall. glad we'll see a season 2!
didntshootthedeputy
I don't know the show but I really can't agree with this. If necessary exposition is boring to the audience then you aren't doing it right.
WildYucatanMan
It's not that its boring, its just that its a complete tonal shift from the suspenseful start, but it still goes somewhere
doubleormuffin
You don't really get to decide what other people think is boring... it's kind of a subjective thing
Baconmac1234
Game of thrones does it most seasons and they are doing pretty good
hitshappens
There was alot of dull moments. The weirdest moment was when they tried to get us to root for Hitler though.
WildYucatanMan
That was like the best part cause it was so brilliantly fucked up how they were able to do that!
hitshappens
Except Hitler wasn't that merciful or smart
WildYucatanMan
It is a fictional alternate reality after all
hitshappens
But then you're just invoking the shock value of a name to make a character more interesting
WildYucatanMan
? Don't know what you mean. Hitlers role was like 5 min long & used for a great climatic scene