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Prince Ea came out with this awesome video that discusses the way we think about police. Police get a bad rap in the media, and not matter what you think of them, this video reminded me that they too are human.... Pretty cool spoken word poem.
SAUCE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRvFXGAblzA
capnthunderpants
@nursemegatron peep yo boy 1 more time.
boobcat
HUMAN?? WTF who never called them not human. They get bad press when they committ crimes!
strawhousepig
No, we think that since you wear that badge any evil you may do can easily go unpunished. That's the problem, pls fix it.
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
Most cops are good people and the ones who commit murder should be behind bars. You can have it both ways.
CammyD
I feel so sad for these cops who get stereotyped. Thousands of cops must be killed every year, right? Oh wait, no, that's unarmed people...
romanvholmes
This is awesome.
myr14d
Okay. Being human says shit about your character.
boobcat
There is no good/bad press.. it's just the event. If they committ crimes then its a crime!
mcmoto
TheSkepticDyslexicNihilist
Easily forgotten when that short chubby balding cop in his 40s pulls you over and starts talking down to you with attitude.
Ceistebi
This circle jerk again? ug
phoenixht1
I considered being a cop after I left the army because I still wanted to make a difference, but the way people treat cops...
phoenixht1
Besides, Infantry doesn't exactly qualify you for a lot in the civilian world.
boobcat
Press is news media, covering events. Propoganda is media to spread/sell an idea. This is propoganda.
MotherEffinSatan
Great message, shitbag Youtuber that attempts to silence critics with copyright strikes.
pizzabortionist
Been in the system, known a lot of bad cops. Still most are good. Lets deal with them as individuals, like I hope they do me...
CrumBum42069
Yeah but humans are the worst
romanvholmes
Definitely sharing with my cop friends
PrisonGuard
Shit today I dealt with two bloody fights and an escaped inmate. Shit sucks. But will still put on my uniform tomorrow.
capnthunderpants
Thanks for your service
PrisonGuard
Thank you. Just doing what I think is right.
jteichma
Saw this this morning! Such a powerful video.
Zlimeshili
Shove your propaganda up your ass.
capnthunderpants
Can I shove it up yours instead?
boobcat
Not stopping or reporting on another cop for abuses his authority is corrupt and that happens nearly everywhere. Too many civilins accept it
blooblee1
Can I just say the speaker guy from this video fuckin blows? He's the epitome of middle school "deep" philosophy
Syyd
Anyone else have an unusual attraction to cop uniforms? I was very distracted last time I got called in for jury duty.
tomhark
the assumption here is that human beings are inherently decent. not sure about that.
Corrodias
Haha, oh, heavens, no. Being human is what gives them the capacity to be so evil. Not all are evil. But "I'm human" is a terrible defense.
iDrinkDrano
I believe in the monkeysphere idea, that we care... but we care about only the 100 or so close to us, and so those outside become scary.
ballsohard2202
If that's the case then why, almost universally, do people gravitate towards heroes? Follow leaders they *believe* are doing good?
capnthunderpants
yeah I guess so... but a lot are (a lot are not) but maybe we all try... ya know...
hovelhopper
I will go out on a limb and say that anyone that works public service that risks their own safety has better than average chance at decency.
IronicUsername
This is a flawed assumption that doesn't consider the corrupting influence of power or the kind of people who might seek it out.
ASwarmOfAfricanizedBees
Some people go into policing because they see it as public service, some go into it because they want an excuse to exercise power.
GladColt
100% definitely think thats a solid assumption, but ultimate power can corrupt ultimately.
probshouldntsayitbut
Ok spiderman
malexmatt
They are human. Only human. They're humans given an inordinate amount of power and authority over their fellow humans and they've fostered1/
malexmatt
a culture that casually abuses that authority. It may be that the usually abuse in minor, mostly non-harmful ways, but that culture 2/
malexmatt
enables the ones who do real harm. Kings were human, too, under their crowns, but that didn't stop them from also being tyrants. 3/3
ZachPutland
If I had a dollar for every time I saw a cop blow right through a crosswalk or speed or fail to signal... at least try to follow the laws
dwigtyouignorantslut
I believe it is possible to be pro-police and anti-police brutality. I don't understand why these are seen as mutually exclusive. Cops are
SwissMountainsAreSoCool
Because it's one large group, "the police", and it can only have one label, "good" or "bad". People are too dumb to think beyond that.
dwigtyouignorantslut
Human just like those who work any other job. There can be bad ones in the bunch.
capnthunderpants
I agree 100%
SergeiBoobtitsky
What the fuck kind of diner has a security guard?!?
Canofminus
Apparently one in a town where they don't pay cops a decent wage.
Gandalfsuglybrother
We even have one in the evenings in our grocery store. And the police substation is across the parking lot.
capnthunderpants
Where you from. Im from Downtown LA and every night the local eateries have security (mostly for robberies and homeless)
SgtMichaelCross
You've never seen Pulp Fiction?
LieutenantKifKroker
Denny's is cracking down, bro.
Radioflash89
Nobody thinks individual cops are all evil. The problem is when they value the careers of other cops over the lives of citizens.
thehungryguy
people do think that though
causality
Yep, media loves a good false narrative, like the one where policing is an especially dangerous job.
IreallyMGur
How do (black) citizens feel when a cop walks free after shooting / killing an unarmed person in the back, on tape & planting a taser
boobcat
Nobody assumes that a cop they no nothing about is evil. There are lots of individual bad cops and bad police systems and policies
dKesef
Yeah, also I think for those informed, the worst of it is the justice system in general and it's racial and classist bias.
probshouldntsayitbut
Yet you and other posters refer to police officers as "they/them," thereby lumping all into the accusations and assumptions of wrong doing.
ImJimFuckingSterlingSon
You're dumb as fuck
probshouldntsayitbut
How dumb is fuck exactly? And if I am as dumb as then you are dumber than fuck.
djordi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_wall_of_silence
shinyRK9
yeah, nah, there are legit people who hate every single cop, not matter what. sauce: i live in freaking st. louis
flarflarf
ever stop to wonder where those beliefs might have come from?
shinyRK9
Yeah, it's a real fucking mystery. If only some major racial event happened in my hometown that somehow divided people.
flarflarf
I guess the way you said it made it sound like you found it hard to believe and yet it was true, so i dunno
CammyD
But those people don't get badges and guns...
shinyRK9
Yeah... they uh... there's a pretty good chance they can get the latter...
CammyD
Care to quantify that?
shinyRK9
Quantify that people can buy guns?
GREATEASYPIES
Rep the 314!
servingmytimeinusersub
Ex cop here. My first ride along, the guy explained he got into it because he wanted to "bust skulls" legally
Freakayou
In High School I did a ride along for a project, really slow day, so he pulls over a black man without a cause to show me how a stop works..
msu14hockey
Yeah, I had a few high school friends become police. At least one was pretty gung ho on kicking the shit out of people.
TheRealHenryVIII
I mean it's much easier than the military to get in, so why not.
probshouldntsayitbut
Okay, what about all the other officers?
avadakadabra
What about them
BoredoBandito
You know as well as i that you caught the meaning of the words.
sweetmoses
Did you report him? Because if not, you're just as bad and knowingly let a dangerous armed criminal walk the streets for who knows how long
servingmytimeinusersub
Report the man who didn't actually commit a crime? The one in the dept I was trying to get In? The one who might save me one day in a fight?
sweetmoses
Thankfully you're not patrolling anybody's streets anymore. Hopefully your skull busting friend isn't either. Both of you are criminals
sweetmoses
Your job is community safety and you know somebody who violates that safety. I didn't say arrest him, but the community should know that
sweetmoses
Yes. A colleague just admitted he enjoys assaulting people and you kept quiet because he's got seniority on you. You're just as bad
servingmytimeinusersub
He wasn't my colleague at the time. I don't live in that community anymore. Some of us have people to provide for.
sweetmoses
I bet if I admitted I liked assaulting people you'd find a way to arrest me. So you chose a job over community safety? Bad cops...all of you
sweetmoses
You're actually worse than him. At least he's open and honest. You're a coward. You prove there are more bad cops than good
servingmytimeinusersub
I'm a coward? That's fine. I provide for my family. There are at least 4 people alive today because of my direct actions. I'm happy
sweetmoses
And who knows how many dead or hurt people because of your INACTION. Hitmen provide for their families too, that's no justification. Coward
capnthunderpants
That's crazy.
flarflarf
It's not really all that rare. There's a bunch of reasons people become cops, some noble, some horrific.
flarflarf
For most people it's just a job. For some, it's a calling. For others, it's an excuse.
flarflarf
the problems start when people in the former two camps tolerate and shelter those in the latter camp.
flarflarf
and the DA's office is included here, I should not let them off the hook in this little equation.
capnthunderpants
How did you reacty
servingmytimeinusersub
I kept my mouth shut. I wasn't even in the academy at that point and didn't want to piss anyone off.
itsthevoiceman
Yet another example of how fear can rule us and negatively affect others =/
WiseJessie
The truth is that out of a million cops in this country, some are bound to be incompetent enough to fire their weapon at the innocent.
sweetmoses
Firing a weapon at an innocent person isn't incompetence, it's murder
Gandalfsuglybrother
Let's emphasize that. There are literally over 1 million law enforcement officers across all kinds of agencies across the US.
boobcat
so what...out of that figure way to many abuse their powers and commit crimes
ZachPutland
They aren't trained properly anyway
boobcat
Police abuse and corruption is widespread.....entire police stations are corrupt..racially biased...violent and coverup cop crimes
flarflarf
Sure. The problem is that bad cops are virtually never punished, and the "good" cops never turn in the bad ones.
boobcat
Not even the tippy tip of the problem. Police injustices are endemic. The systems allows them the protection to break the law
WiseJessie
The media covers these stories because that's what the public pays attention to but in reality the vast majority of cops are doing their job
sweetmoses
Then why don't they arrest cops who break the law? If you admit some % of cops are bad, why dont their "good" colleagues arrest them?
boobcat
Prove it......I read testimony of entire regions being compliicit certain corruption
boobcat
Doesn't many the cops didn't commit crimes...if they didn't abuse...they'd be no news
pornopaul
If you consider how many arrests happen on a daily basis, and then compare to how many of these arrests/shootings happen, its pretty small
IronicUsername
Also in reality, the police seized more property under civil forfeiture (a practice in which property is seized without a conviction) [1]
IronicUsername
than all burglaries combined in 2014, police are less likely to serve time behind bars for crimes, and the DOJ found evidence of [2]
IronicUsername
systemic racial bias and frequent civil rights violations in several police departments recently. Nobody rational actually thinks the [3]
IronicUsername
vast majority of cops are out there murdering, battering, and falsely arresting people but to suggest that our policing problems are [4]