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This is happening right now in Standing Rock Sioux Reservation, North Dakota
This is an organized protest lasting 2 months now against the Dakota Access Pipeline, a $3.7 billion investment to move 470,000 barrels of domestic crude oil a day through four states.
This is happening to protect sacred Native American lands which the pipeline will use.
As you can see, police have been used heavily to protect private property.
But damage to equipment and roadblocks have been done to try and stop the construction.
This has ensured a very heavy and continued police presence.
When people won't move or fight in any way, special bean bag shotguns and such have been used, and have caused minor injuries.
It is actually getting worse as more and more people from across the globe have joined the protest.
People are often arrested in minor clashes with police.
But overall the protests have been peaceful. No looting, no major injuries or attacks. Nothing of the sort.
Why, because they are organized.
And stand their ground peacefully in most cases, trying to block the pipeline, not do more damage.
They have spiritual rituals, and have created a huge encampment to house all the people joining the protests.
Most protests like this are well respected, despite their disruption. There is disagreements among the Native Americans about this entire ordeal in fact, and small towns in the area have suffered great inconveniences in commutes and commercial traffic. But this is not Ferguson, Baltimore, or Chicago. This is not violent and aggressive behavior towards people or non-related property. These people feel as strongly about this issue as others do about the current US race issue, but have chosen far more sensible means on taking a stand. They are not standing in a major highway, nor are they burning police cars, and they most certainly are not hurting anyone or any individuals property. They are not destroying businesses or killing people in anger. In the 60's when the US had major racial issues across the country, we saw mostly protests exactly like these. Organized movements with lots of people taking a nonviolent stand. And fortunately for all of us, it worked back then to desegregate America. Now these type of protests don't always work, but they convey the message, and need to be respected far more than anything the news media has covered in the last 2 years about our current race issues.
Whether or not this specific protest is something any of you agree upon is not the point i wish to make, but how people who have given up so much to stand for what they believe in are doing so in a far more professional and organized way. I just felt this needs to be discussed more. Would love to hear your thoughts. Thanks.
Mycologics
Oh get off OP it's been on the news in the Netherlands and bunch of times already. Maybe you should do a little research first
nonamejanie
I live in MS and people are all over this story here. Hell some people from here are there protesting.
gretchensaurus
Literally EVERYONE is talking about this.
RockKnight
Please stop with the headline new stories that "nobody is talking about". It is cancer.
creeperazzi
NPR talked about it today... a whole show on it
NomadOfTheCosmos
"Nobody is talking about it.." Have you been on Facebook or the Internet in general recently?
jm540
It's literally trending on Facebook
ghosthendrikson
The protest "everyone" is talking about.
WedsBunneh
I'm no longer sure what propaganda I'm supposed to believe anymore.
ThotsAndPrayers
Much ado about nothing. Some people protest anything for their sense of identity.
scabab
nothing to protest about. right. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pipeline_accidents_in_the_United_States_in_the_21st_century
Thelegaldeagle
Your definition of nonviolent and my own are very different.
wastedwarrior
It says they aren't looting. Look around, the only stuff around was the equipment they stole/destroyed. They hit 100% loot capacity.
DeckhandAdmiral
Lol no looting, dude its ND theres nothing fucking there. But hey lets glass over that the protest is protesting something completely legal
fortisfirmus
Would you love them so much if they did this to an abortion clinic?
InFin0819
title about non violent protest. Followed by pictures of violence from protest
LingeringSlinky
Your forgetting the violent part where they cut the fence and trespasded to attack the workers, including injuring two k9 units
NoneMorePale
Hey, I live like 15m from this ... just thought you should know.
ThePickliestRick
So what's your take on it? Are they peaceful, and are the police violent?
scabab
just go on youtube dude. its pretty night and day
theactualdeadpool
"The protest no one is talking about" that blows up my Facebook every fucking day.
Chimichanga007
Where's Magua when you need him, I wonder?
flamingflamingo
It's not covered by news outlets as much as BLM stuff or Trump sign vandalism.
SoupCanMan
Is NPR, Fox News and MSNBC not a news outlet anymore?
flamingflamingo
"As much".
thecmerrilees
"Peaceful" but has pictures of two dump trucks burnt up....okay...
CammyD
Property damage isn't necessarily violent. Human life > property.
thecmerrilees
While human life is more valuable that property. Damaging property is inherently violent on some level...sorta needed for the word damage
western1388
Don't forget the lady who was arrested for attempted murder of a police officer when she shot at them.
western1388
https://www.google.com/amp/kdvr.com/2016/10/31/denver-woman-charged-with-attempted-murder-at-dakota-access-pipeline-protest/amp/
BestUsernameICouldThinkOf
"Non-violent": Other than the attempted murder of a cop.
BoobiesMeow
www.google.com/amp/kdvr.com/2016/10/31/denver-woman-charged-with-attempted-murder-at-dakota-access-pipeline-protest/amp/?client=safari
BoobiesMeow
"Please the cops over exaggerated when she shot three times" - said a bunch of these retards
PeanutPancakery
I've read that a lot of the people protesting aren't even from around there and the native residents think these people are making them (1)
PeanutPancakery
are blocking their roadways. I've heard ya just a bunch of liberals wanting to get attention. But again, idk how reliable that source is.
PeanutPancakery
bad. Because of the protesters the locals have to drive 49 miles out of there own way to get where they are going because these people (2)
millanbel
"Nonviolent in nature" --> "damage to equipment and roadblocks have been done" Is there something I'm missing?
killdread
well, if "violent" means in regards to harming other people then that's accurate to what was said
BayazTheBenevolent
Comparatively nonviolent if you take into account the usual way 'protests' go in the US.
daelith
You're missing the brain damage required to allow that much cognitive dissonance.
AnExcellentRectangle
They are also claiming that it will hurt the environment. That's why they lit the tire fire.
scabab
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pipeline_accidents_in_the_United_States_in_the_21st_century
Jamesstin
I can tell that wiki article is bullshit since they claim "# Barrels of crude spilled" on fields that use hydro flooding which means one 1/2
Jamesstin
"Barrel of crude" is actually just one barrel of produced water which had like 5% oil in it. TMYK
tekkblade
I also like the reasoning scabab has, the oil companies pollute so that means protestors can too. Mom never taught the two wrongs lesson.
Rybus
Everyone is talking about this. They have destroyed property, fired at police, trespassed, and killed livestock. They are far from peaceful.
scabab
BULL. SHIT.
TakWriterOfWorlds
I haven't seen anything that would indicate that, excluding partisan "news" blogs with .wordpress links.
GreenHead88
I was fine with all of the comments....but then i found yours. It is statement like this that cause problems. A lot if what you said is unde
Rybus
To be fair trespassing and arson accusations are easier to prove, since everything has been recorded since day 1.
GreenHead88
R investigation and has not been tired to the protest. Respect our law enforcement and respect our citizens. Don't spend bullshit!
GreenHead88
Spread, sorry
ArmondotheBiologist
Who else would shoots cattle with arrows? Unless thats a setup.
TheFeralDog
Yeah it's certainly true of that there is no doubt. There are literally dozens of witnesses
Burghguy
There's no looting because it's in the middle of nowhere.
ThotsAndPrayers
Thank you!
HiMyNameIsKevinIHaveChangnesia
Actually the protesters have been stealing and slaughtering cattle so there's that.
lookherebuddy
source?
HiMyNameIsKevinIHaveChangnesia
http://www.tsln.com/news/stolen-butchered-livestock-near-dakota-pipeline-protest-site/ I've heard of horses and cows going missing and 1/2
HiMyNameIsKevinIHaveChangnesia
I've got friends in the area that have had to take their herds in because they're afraid of losing some. I'm from about 2 hours West of it.
MrsFinley
Have they really?
HiMyNameIsKevinIHaveChangnesia
Horses and cows from what I've heard. Friends in the area have moved their herds in to avoid any potential loss.
Yinyang107
Here is an infodump post (not mine): http://imgur.com/oeClKM8 The company did everything they could to avoid sacred land.
theruggbeast
Thanks for the link. It's a good read
kasaku
The company claims they did everything they could, and that ignores the water issue completely. Almost like they're shilling for corps.
scabab
ok but pinch of salt here: it was ALL native american land before america invaded only 300 years ago and proceeded to fuck it all to fuck.
Talmorean
It was a war of conquest. They lost. That's like saying Celts have rights to all of Gaul (France.)
ZeroLogain
Thank you!
JediWizard
That post is biased. People didn't "voluntarily" give up land, it was taken thru eminent domain by a private corporation forcing it.
CaptGunpowder
Oh yeah, the post that copy pasted Storefront and used the Daily Caller as a primary source. Nice info dump there, sonny.
whyteraven74
BTW the Army Corps of Engineers has said they don't have the right of way for the pipeline, since the ACoE has it. So pretty much that...
whyteraven74
whole thing is trash, since they could've have built a pipeline right next to where the new one will go, since they don't have right of way.
RandomAbscessMemories
Just as a cautionary note- OP allegedly copied and pasted that from Stormfront, and uses some shaky sources. Just approach with skepticism.
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
If I recall, that source is more than a little biased.
UndeadGabe
There's 2 credible sources. 1(Reuter's) says there is no easy work around and the other is a US gov link describing the water pipes
BearInTimber
anyone have cited sources for this info?
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bsArtst
I didn't read any of it myself, but that's where the image is from.
Igotbannedforspammingthatstupidparrot
If you read it you would of saw the sources
DonaldTrumpsFlaccidHairpiece
This is neither a racial or cultural issue. The pipeline company bent over backwards for them. These people just want to cause trouble.
Camelspotting
Which is fair because they've been shit on for a couple hundred years but this isn't really the place for it.
jollywanker
Agreed. Did you read the judges ruling on their case. Pretty much sums up everything the public needs to know.
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
When the pipeline company dies I will be content.
TraceofSpades
Pipelines make your life easier in so many ways you don't even know.
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Until they bust, and then they don't. There are better sources of energy out there. Time to split the oil monopolies and let something good
TraceofSpades
We don't have the tech or infrastructure to quit oil. And we won't for decades
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
We do. But theres a bloody monopoly on energy, and it needs to go.
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
replace them.
EmmyMck96
I live in bismarck and these "peaceful protests" are bullshit. The natives are just pissed because dapl offered them money 1/?
EmmyMck96
To go across their land and the natives got greedy and wanted more money so dapl decide to go around the reservation because it was cheaper
EmmyMck96
And not to mention the natives were shooting at the cops not even a week ago. Bless those poor cops and their families
EmmyMck96
And they were shooting and killing and ranchers cattle and buffalo there too.
GreenHead88
I too live in bismarck, one shot is not shooting (not exceptable either way) and the cattle/bison killing, missing, is under investigation.
GreenHead88
The numerous shots that were heard were believed to be hunters. Respect our law enforcement by spreading truths not lies!
CrazyWithTheCheeseWiz
Shhh everyone out of state is afraid of offending the natives with facts like that. They can protest all they want on the rez. Once they 1/2
CrazyWithTheCheeseWiz
Start burning and sabotaging private property people are bound to get arrested.
WitcherSchoolDropout
What do you mean? Everyone's talking about it. I live thousands of miles away and it's on all the news.
4rmObese2Beast
I live in California and never heard of this
ButterfaceTaintClown
It's in the news on England.
Tutor
Never heard of it but I live in Finland so
SpecimenSpiff
Yeah, I was going to say the same. It's on the news often and I only watch it a couple of times a week.
Itseemedreasonable
Most American news agencies are not reporting on the protests, just occasional briefs
ColouredBlue
I live in Australia and it's the first time I've heard about it.
statlerandwaldorfrule
You must live in Adelaide
ColouredBlue
Nope. Qld.
Crisdo
Hahahahahahahhaha I thought the same thing and I'm a year late to this post
laboon
I haven't seen it on the news once in the us
Macynist
Our national news service has one article about it on sept. 8th. That's all. Only heard about it through Imgur and foreign media. (EU)
Macynist
Germany's Spiegel has its last item about it at sept. 17. Don't know how big the protest really is but it's far from 'all over the news'.
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Caldog7
I live in Qatar and hear about it often. Mainly through a half blooded native american from ND who has lived and worked here for a decade.
VonRichtofenlw
Is he allowed to leave though?
Caldog7
Lol.....but seriously that can be difficult.
VonRichtofenlw
That's why I said it, I know a guy who can't get out. He's paid better than most people who get stuck there but
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sirmixanaverageamount
Why not both?
ICareAboutYou
I think he meant love.
friendswithfire
People who don't use social media don't know about it. It's not being covered by televised news networks or newspapers
Georgeipie
Down in New Zealand and this is the first time I've heard about it
CanadaEhBuddy
I beg to differ, my grandma was talking about it and she doesn't even know what the internet is
Barret80
It's been on tons of News outlets.
Mitheledh
Um... I've heard it on the nightly news here in Southern California as well as on NPR.
ZeroLogain
It is in montreal. Not front page/headline but it's there.
Fonzanoon
Incorrect Friendo
ghosthendrikson
Yes it is being covered by national and statewide media.
SpecimenSpiff
Exactly! Except it TOTALLY IS.
ShamnusMcfee
I just read about it in my local paper rofl. I swear every fucking news story I see here 'isn't being covered by the media!'
Anthf
Well, this is the first I'm hearing of it from PA.
EnuiWilliams
I live in New Zealand and I know about it.
iforgotwhatiwasdoinghere
It's on the news.
TheDudeanator
It is on NPR
OmNachoMama
I've been hearing it on NPR for a while. Love their coverage,
Rapid99
I listen to MPR every day and it's just now getting some attention. this has been going on for much longer than the last 6 weeks.
geckomama
It's on MSNBC every few nights and I've caught it briefly being discussed on Fox awhile back
BestUsernameICouldThinkOf
In Minnesota it is.
BipolarsaurusRx
It was on the news here in Portland OR
DildoSchwagins
Cause we live right next to it..
friendswithfire
Not in NC, MD, or TX
friendswithfire
As far as I know. These are just placed either I live or where people who I've talked to said they had no idea about NODAPL till now
CassiusFaux
Heard about it on the news several times. I'm in Houston TX.
Vfxwiz
Not true live in MD. It's on the nightly news.
ChadMMart2
It's everywhere.
Krympehl
Somehow I feel like this has got to be incredibly illegal considering that those lands were set out specifically to segregate the Indians...
Krympehl
... out of lands that were to be used by earlier Americans. Now it seems that now that land is wanted back?.. that's gotta be a huge no no
unefemmeingenieur
I'd like to preface this by saying I agree with the protestors on this whole issue, but it's not nearly that simple.They're protesting (1/?)
unefemmeingenieur
B/c the pipeline passes under the Missouri River, which supplies the drinking water for the reservation (so any spill could contaminate (2/?
unefemmeingenieur
Their entire water supply) and that it would limit their access to culturally significant land; it doesn't actually pass through any (3/?)
xapi
Pretty sure the pipeline is Only going near tribal lands, that the tribes ok'd the project, and the protest is basically "what if it leaks?"
scabab
"what if it leaks" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pipeline_accidents_in_the_United_States_in_the_21st_century
TakWriterOfWorlds
They weren't given critical information in order to make an informed decision. And it's kind of a matter of when, not if.
barrocoyote
They were given every opportunity to get involved beforehand and they didn't.
xapi
Seems like I've heard of that happening before!
TakWriterOfWorlds
It does seem familiar. I wonder if any beads were involved this time?
LingeringSlinky
They most certainly were given critical information.
WhyKid
Could they not do research? Or lawyer up? I feel bad for these people but if they didn't try to protect themselves then i cant back them.
doctorbees
They did file an injunction, I believe, but a judge denied it. They are appealing.
TakWriterOfWorlds
Research would involve hiring their own team of scientists etc. and they negotiated the deal under false pretenses so, meh?
TakWriterOfWorlds
Awwww, downvote fairies!
Molvanian
Because you're wrong. They refused to meet with the ACoE on the matter. They had options.
WhyKid
Agreed, meh.
NickBlacksHumor
Yeah deals like this take months if not years to get all parties lined up sounds like sellers remorse or leaders moving without consent
jollywanker
Army corps and the construction firm tried to meet with them. They basically refused. It was documented in the trial so that's why they lost
ThePickliestRick
They're claiming they own the land due to some 200 year old treaty no one can find. Meanwhile the oil company has a deed to the land.
ThePickliestRick
They're protesting the pipe because it'll run under a water supply, and because it supposedly crosses "sacred" land.
daelith
The water supply that is scheduled to move before the pipeline is complete. And I've yet to find land natives don't think is "sacred."
ThePickliestRick
If it's not theirs, it's sacred and should be theirs. I'm embarrassed for my people...
hardytardigrade
And that's the history of the US in a nutshell. Native Americans think they own white people's land, but here, look at this paper
Molvanian
Do, you live in the US? If so, when are you selling your land to the near by Natives? You are, right? Such a good man.
hardytardigrade
OMG you are right, because I don't want to give my land away, that means America wasn't stolen through genocide! Oh thank God
Molvanian
No, that isn't what I was saying at all. But if the issue offends you, you can do something about it. Being snarky on the internet,
Molvanian
Oh extra bonus post. Read up on the Natives of CT. We had some fun ones. Just in case you need the illusion of the 'Noble Savage' broken.