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Sorry in advance for linking to a Fox News video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upZLHm0bk2c
Jun 20, 2023 12:20 PM
CaptainBackPain
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Sorry in advance for linking to a Fox News video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upZLHm0bk2c
mardukkur
Judges and juries love it when you claim a bunch of different, self-contradictory defenses.
McAltec
Skidmarked pants are more important than national documents. Gotcha
APassingPlasticBag
And you know he did not pack those boxes himself so whoever did could have got a good look/. Took pictures. Also if I had to guess why it was packed with his own clothing, he probably had someone take some of his shirts and shit and put them on top of the secret documents to pretend like the only things in the boxes are clothing if anyone looked, you know like a fucking child trying to hide something. So that’s why he has to explain the clothing mixed in too
GRaffted
How many times will it take to flush this turd down a toilet?
SecondSince
If i never have to see this shitstain ever again i'll be a bit happier.
Snooj
Don't get caught up in his excuses, just press him. "So you're saying that you are a very disorganized person?"
300Hectares1TankofKerosene
So, I guess he had shit laying around everywhere, no extra boxes, no professional packers, no time to pack, he’s so poor he cares about a golf shirt, he’s so busy he hasn’t unpacked in 3 years, etc etc?
zHurk777
To be fair a dog ate some of the documents.
zHurk777
>> And to be fairer some of the documents were accidentally flushed down the toilet.
ironwill2008
It's beyond me how even the ignorant MAGAts can continue to believe and support this moron. His rantings are becoming more and more unhinged---and self-incriminating.
KamikazeGerbil101
DrZharn
think he is going for the "Bat Shit Crazy" plea?
januarylover
I can't go to jail, I have dementia.
ThisGuyHere
You put top secret documents in with your personal shit? They act like they didn't have enough boxes or that the documents didn't warrant their own container. "Hey, what do I do w/ all the laundry and shit?" "Just put it in with the Top Secret Documents" ...or maybe that was on purpose so it didn't look like the documents were important or that they could be seen if people quickly looked inside?
ThisGuyHere
Furthermore, you could've had Nauta or a team go through and pull out personal items like....*sigh* clothes and leave the documents untouched. It's not like you had to go through them personally. Also, you didn't have time to respond to a Federal Subpoena? Just brush it off bc you had a fuckin' rally scheduled to con people out of their money at? S'all bullshit with this fuckin' guy.
HeHeHebieJeebies
Should be an extra law for storing top secret documents in a hazmat environment.
SugarRushed
When I have to give standardized tests, my teaching license can be taken away and charges pressed if I mishandle the tests in any way - including letting them leave my line of sight for any moment in time… but the former president of the United States treats top secret documents like his wardrobe and allows his valet to pack them…. Makes sense.
Exdeath5000
How dare you??
KamikazeGerbil101
evilspock
Donald Gargamel Trump is not a very smart man. "I treated the classified documents like laundry" isn't the compelling defense he thinks it is.
Hovencloof
Gargamel... heh heh.
seehemewe
Don't forget he de-classified all of his laundry with his mind before leaving office & then securely stored his de-classified laundry in a ballroom that was only accessible to anyone who rented the ballroom, and then moved it to a super-max secure shower. You can tell how secure the bathroom is b/c it has a chandelier. No one installs a chandelier in a bathroom that isn't secure.
NomadFeetWanderingToes
I love how his defense/responses have changed over time. First it was "Its an FBI plant/I didn't have anything/fake news" just after the raid. After pics were released, it was "well they weren't that sensitive and I declassified them". After no declassification evidence presented it's been "I did nothing wrong". Post indictment it's now morphed into "they were 'my' documents it's all a political hit job!". The best is how his excuses become more preposterous and just flat out reality denying.
rodfood
IN one statement he said his "aide" Walt Nauta packed up all the stuff for him and he would have known not to pack sensitive docs. I see a bus coming your way Walt...
PuffinHufflepuff
kojenk
like really, is he fucking 10 years old for that excuse to fly?
AlmostCertainlyNotPickles
Could you imagine retaining sensitive documents against your NDA after leaving a company, them asking (asking!!) for you to return them, and then doing what Trump did? And then having the freedom to go on a show and say you had such piss poor file management that it was your excuse for not complying?
Snarklepuff
"I was too busy" he says. Not an excuse if I file my taxes late. And unlike Trump, I do my own laundry, shopping, house cleaning and cooking. He means he was too busy golfing and selling secret documents to the Saudis.
AlmostCertainlyNotPickles
He's been institutionalized his whole life. He's seen a documentary on "busy" once, and that's about it.
AlmostCertainlyNotPickles
Anyone else would have been arrested with extreme prejudice.
somethingcoolandmemeworthy
If only there was a period of time after losing an election when he could have gone through everything and separated his sweaty clothes from the top secret government documents........
youbetchamom
He's still president, remember? Rigged election. "I won that election, by a lot!" I'm surprised he hasn't used that excuse yet. Why would he return the docs if he's still president? Right? What an oaf.
Imalwaysready
Look, you can plan a bumbling coup or you can do laundry, but there just aren't enough hours in the day to do both.
AlwaysUpvoteBeerCigarsWhisky
The "I was very busy, you know" excuse. Lol. Fucker is probably still going to walk away.
sloomoo
Busy playing golf....
corndude101
He’ll get pardoned when it’s all said and done. That’s how these things go. They do it to prevent riots and the appearance that it was a political attack. It’s not and never was a political attack, but there’s perception that it is. So they’ll pardon him to appease the masses that think it is.
AlwaysUpvoteBeerCigarsWhisky
Agree.
corndude101
Which is total BS. If you or I had stolen those documents and “lost” one the way he had… we’d be rotting in a prison cell or would have faced a firing line already. No one would know about us either.
AlwaysUpvoteBeerCigarsWhisky
Yep, exactly. Now get back in line, peasant.
darthOnion
A. Bullshit (clearly) B. If that was the reason, jumbling classified documents with your golf shirts proves you made no effort to secure the documents
kayakninjas
No, you've got it all backwards. Clearly he treats his golf shirts with the level of security appropriate for national security info! /S
BallDoctor
It would be very on-brand that while we're assuming there's some high-level nefarious reason he held onto them, the real reason is just mind-bogglingly stupid.
BubbaWunk
creampies for Trump!
LateNightBunnyParty
Jefftheonewiththenuke
Harryteeters
Fargus57
It's going to be great watching him sort out all the lies under oath. No matter what he says, there is a video of him contradicting it.
NotSomoneElse68
I thought you couldn't compel someone to testify at their own trial.
Fargus57
They can't be, due to potential to self-incriminate. As to whether Trump follows his attorneys' advice is another matter. Trump may consent to testify, particularly if he thinks the ratings will be good.
NotSomoneElse68
I feel he can't consent to that without his attorneys agreeing.
Fargus57
If he insists, well, attorneys are contractors to a degree. The attorney(s) can petition the court to withdraw as his counsel if they feel strongly enough about it. Trump could also dismiss them in mid-trial if he wanted. In the case of something like this, where the client would go against the advice of counsel, the attorney(s) would probably petition the court to withdraw themselves. Of course, this is all speculation. based on the premise that Trump may want to take the stand.
ZaphodBbx
He took the same precautions for top secret documents...as a golf shirt.
komododave
It’s a really nice shirt.
Burke616
A Top Secret golf shirt. /s
Onlyhereforthelaughs
Hey man, that's DONALD TRUMP's golf shirt! It is probably made of gold, because he is so rich, and famous, and handsome! And defending him must mean that I too will be rich and famous and handsome when Lord Trump takes his rightful place on the throne! /s
3nd3rwiggin
But a bathroom has a lock. /s
matz3435
dont act surprised, i know you arent.
75townecoupe
He spent more time golfing then presidenting, so I guess?
TheOneAndOnlyButtStabber
What a great defense. Steels car and caught* NO SIR! My things are in it! I cant return it until i get my things!
ScienceIsntAboutWhyItsAboutWhyNot
Maybe he really loves that golf shirt.
acuteavocado7
to be fair, golf is apparently VERY important to him, more than running the country. im sure the shirts get treated better than the documents
Simusar
He probably took greater precautions for the golf shirt than the classified documents
busterfixxitt
His golf shirts are also Top Secret. The secret is the built-in control-top braziere.
brainkandle1
mrthewhitee
His latest defense is his valet is responsible. As a former military guy Trump relied on him to pack up his personal stuff without including classified material but he didn't do that. It's a bs defense I'm sure we all know but hopefully the court doesn't buy it either.
aintnothinbutahounddog28
I'm waiting to hear some good dirt as trump turns on everyone around him to place blame and some of them inevitably tell us sordid little secrets in return
sloomoo
There seems to be a strong possibility that Nauta will back that story up. His allegiance to Benedict Donald is allegedly complete and unwavering.
Calicoastin818
he incriminated himself again and again , please just let this moron talk bahahaha
SnarfyMcSnarferson
Don't interrupt your enemy when they're making a mistake
sloomoo
I must admit to a considerable amount of schadenfreude when I imagine his lawyers viewing is statements.
SylvesterMarcus
What do they care? I assume they got some cash up front. They’re probably thinking “if he wants to pay us and slit his own throat, god bless”.
PithyCommentBelow
What lawyers?
req4adream99
I don’t. All it takes is one juror and it’s a hung jury. He’s already out.
dancoca
This one has to be unanimous?
SylvesterMarcus
I doubt that any juror is going to be willing to take that much heat when faced with overwhelming evidence. There may be someone that holds out for a while but I’m guessing they all come back guilty eventually. That’s assuming this actually makes it to the hands of a jury (A big “if”).
PithyCommentBelow
I dunno. They’ll think they’re doing it for their messiah.
magila
Then the government retries him. Over and over until he is convicted or dies on trial.
dancoca
Isn’t it illegal to charge someone for the same crime twice? Idk much about courts but I thought this is called double jeopardy.
sloomoo
Hung juries and mistrials can be re-tried. Sometimes the prosecution does, sometimes they don't.
gsmdo
His demeanour during this interview was that of a very scared man…
zHurk777
$1 says he gets off. hate to say it, but gotta face reality.
Waxilliam
mmmm maga tears are so sweet
TooRexyForMyShirt
To be fair, his demeanour is ALWAYS that of a very scared man. Just under a veil of hatred/anger/contempt, or attempting to mask it with an extremely superficial level of bravado and "strength".
GlenL
Good thing the man wears depends because he certainly looks like he's shitting himself
PosthumousExile
The only dependable thing on him...
seehemewe
What's frustrating to me is there are still two levels of justice. One for average citizens, another for the rich & powerful. If Fed Gov knew an average citizen had +/- 300 classified documents, they would've give the citizen a year to turn them over. Then wait another 5 months to hand over the additional docs that weren't first given over. Then after they find even more classified docs after a raid, wait 10 months to charge that citizen.
seehemewe
Trump took illegally took classified documents and if he had paid a lawyer to go through all his boxes to pull ALL of the classified documents at the first request, there would have not been any criminal charges. No average citizen would be granted same level of privileged.
Burke616
An average citizen wouldn't have walked out of their arraignment. "Yeah, no, you have strong ties to fucking *Russia*, you're a bigger flight risk than a flock of starlings. No bail."
seehemewe
Trump still has his passport & is allowed to travel internationally. "All men created equal" my ass.
Burke616
This is exactly the bullshit I'm salty about.
Megamastermetamememaker
That's what happens when fascism takes over. It doesn't happen in a day. Over years governmental structures are infiltrated and slowly the "machine" produces other outcomes as expected.
Natastrophe01
To be fair, there's a lot more than 2 levels of justice. The rich/poor levels are have many sub-levels depending on your race, orientation, age, how the judge is feeling that morning, etc.
seehemewe
Completely fair. Levels of justice is more of a spectrum than just binary rich vs everyone else.
tenkindsofawesome
I don't want him to be fined, he'll only scam that money out of his cult followers, I want him to go to jail.
seehemewe
I want him to be fined if the average citizen would be fined. I want him handcuffed & get a mug shot if the average citizen would get handcuffed & a mug shot if they refused to hand over classified documents. If the law is supposed to apply to everyone, it should apply to everyone.
seehemewe
Also, fines shouldn't be a flat amount, but based on someone's wealth / income. If Trump can drum up $5m like average citizen drum up $500, then any fine for Trump should be 10,000x higher than the average fine. So if a fine is often $50k, then Trump should be fined $500m.
tenkindsofawesome
I agree with you on that, fines don't deter those that can afford them.