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Seoul
L.A
London
Dubai
Berlin
Shenzen, China
Sydney
Shanghai
Singapore
Athens
Rio
Tokyo
FrigginCornflakes
Whoever captioned the photos "Now" instead of the year of the photo is going to feel like such an idiot 25 years from now.
Machiavellianism
welp tokyo wins.
SaraSlaughter
Tokyo is insanely huge... I can't even wrap my head around this shit. Dubai makes zero sense. Singapore looks amazing.
Dev1lscry
Singapore really is man, was born there and moved but yeah love going back from time to time
stefansf
Nice. Athens got electricity. It just took a little over 150 years
LajesticVantrashellOfLob
seriously
zFUBARz
Yeah Athens hasn't changed much in a couple thousand years... I don't recall seeing a building more than 4 or 5 stories tall anywhere there.
yeoldefrog
The Tokyo photo is right after the Tokyo bombing when over 700,000 bombs were dropped on the city killing 200,000 and displacing millions
christianhunter
An optimist might read read your comment as "the city wasn't millions full".
Deletingmypastandfuture
the ones not of the same angle bug me. not that these photos were orig taken for that reason, but it still bugs
haioson
Also, they showed two different locations for LA: Park La Brea/Mid-Wilshire vs. Downtown LA.
RedroverRedrover
Yeah, the NY one doesn't look that impressive because they used different scales. The buildings are a lot taller now, but it doesn't look 1
RedroverRedrover
like it from the pics. 2
sumowoman
You can still see some of the older bigger buildings as tiny ones in the new picture.
N21S
Could have fooled me. "The future's shorter!"
RedroverRedrover
Yeah, it just doesn't have the same impact. You have to find a building in both pics, compare them, and then try to apply that scale to 1
RedroverRedrover
the rest of the pictures. I get it, just the visual effect isn't there like it is for some of the others. 2
Captainplanetmotherfucker
Wow, Tokyo fucking exploded.
JesseSlayer
Well, more burned. Hiroshima exploded.
TheOvy
It's sad to think of the story the NYC pictures hide. Manhattan will always look weird to me without the twin towers.
vincentlaguardiagambini
Agree. I call foul on @OP. On 9/11, it's intentional.
TheMershedPerderder
So Dubai was modeled after the spike pit that Shang Tsung fell into at the end of Mortal Kombat?
MostIndeedlySo
TheMershedPerderder
Your username and reaction gif answer my question. Thank you.
MaxeMan5126
Was really expecting to see a 9/11 before and after
ConsistentlyLateCommenter
I mean, I guess you kind of did.
JetSetGo
It just missed the whole time the Twin Towers were standing.
MaxeMan5126
Guess you could say we flew right by it.
Canadianian
JetSetGo
hugebattleaxe
Crazy how everything was black and white or yellow then they painted everything with color
LarvaLamp
The Asian places are still pretty yellow.
JetSetGo
Well, you know, color didn't come into the world until around the 1940's. Prior to that, everything was black and white.
AfroSamuraiRM
Mykeyboy
I like how Athens just turned the lights on.
goodmorningmoriohcho
I was reading this post to a friend, and I accidentally said "L.A Noire in the 1940s"
turtlepudding
Of course Berlin is going to be different in 1945, it was blown to pieces
TairaMai
True story, a Boeing exec went to sell their airplanes to Lufthansa in 1947. The VP of that airline stopped his pitch ... 1/2
TairaMai
2/2 stopped it in mid-sentence, opened the window and said "We know what Boeing planes can do sir, you have a sale".
TheManSpider
This sounds really cool. Any source for it?
TairaMai
The book "Boeing: the legend and the Legacy"
evilpigeonwithwings
It's odd that Berlin has no "Now" photo.
xVancha
We haven't seen it since the aliens took it.
alwayschilli
I might be biased but really: Sydney is the best lookin...
ohmoira
That water tho
iLuca173
You're lucky they didn't show Hobart it would have destroyed them all
alwayschilli
Of boredom or something else ;)
zhukoz
Interesting that if they used a photo of Sydney from one year earlier, there would have been no Harbour Bridge. Better contrast IMO
christianhunter
Sydney looks nicer, but Melbourne felt like the "Oxnard Down Under".
CallMeOldFashionedBut
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAfnvyYVVsE
alwayschilli
+1 for something that I'm sure is only a thing in SYD-DEN-EE
CallMeOldFashionedBut
It was a thing in Perth when I lived there, but it's more of a thing here in SYD-AH-NEE
FantasticalPotato
Sydney is really pretty. Lucky they didnt show Melbourne... not so pretty
alwayschilli
Better to live there though... So they've got that going on
sasquatchisfalse
L.A didn't change much centrally. Still very low rise. Even if the foot print expanded the city never got the sky scrapers.
RAdministrator
I'm sure Nakatomi Tower must have changed things at least a little bit!
ProfessorDumbass
I noticed Hong Kong is 100, 200 story buildings and Singapore is 2000 10 story buildings. HK slightly newer phones, nicer clothes...cleaner
MikeAracter
Very deep bedrock and frequent earthquakes make it to costly.Also we love our cars.
Hellstorm99
Oh man that last one... For those who don't know, we may have dropped nukes in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but Tokyo arguably got it worse
FullMetalBitch
All those civilian families...
Hellstorm99
Right? Somewhere between 75,000 - 200,000 people... Vs Hiroshima and Nagasaki having between 105,000 to 120,000 killed combined.
SwarmLord
Which makes an interesting question: why exactly everybody talks about nuking as unimaginable warcrime, if Tokyo had it even worse?
zhukoz
Well Japan's leaders at the time took great advantage of jumping on the victim bandwagon even if they actually cared little for their people
maxcarrot
The LA ones are not even close to being the same area. The old one is Park La Brea in mid-Wilshire, the new one is Downtown. Bad job on that
dinaana
So basically, Rio finished the statue.
storebrandproductmascot
"It's like he's on the dashboard of the entire country!" --Homer Simpson
moarDuolingo
What those photos don't show: Rio is now just a gigantic huge heap of favelas. Everywhere. Everything.
EnglishIsNotMyNativeLanguage
Rio is one the most beautiful place in the world. People just ruin the nature...
arcticrainbow
Jesus wants a huuuug!
Noevilgifs
GOD DAMNIT ALUCARD
BooBooKittyFudge
They also got rid of that plane
DarthVarlez
Yes and I really advice you to visit a ophthalmologist.
celestedrake
To be fair, it is a big statue.
fluffycake25
Better than Athens, they just turned the lights on.
SenorMacaroni
I thought the same thing! Cool plane though.
ArchiteuthisReDux
Thought for a second, Baloo was flying that plane.
SenorMacaroni
Tailspin!
AWorldFreeOfTurds
But then where's Kit.
ProfessorDumbass
1930..every world government was spending money on anything to boost economy, Australia-Sydney Harbor Bridge. Germany..um....other stuff
Hybris51129
"Employment camps" and "Public housing for disadvantaged minorities"
evil66gurl
Dayum! Do you work in PR? You should.
Hybris51129
No I just dabble in political science, I'm too controversial to ever make it in PR.
SuburbanMeerkat
One of us!
FauxDejaVu
Enjoy organic living and outdoor working in the picturesque German countryside, they said. It will be fun, they said.
Hybris51129
Learn new trades and build a new bright future for you and your family.
FauxDejaVu
Feeling overweight? Call 555-GET-SLIM-KAMP today!!!
ProfessorDumbass
They really took off over the next decade and a half. But then suddenly a lot were closed. Health and Safety violations nightmare
GTimgur
::snorts::
Landmark356
And the gas leaks.
howcaniconfinemyselftoausername
They were pretty clean though. Never ran out of soap
TheForerunner
TIL the Chinese actually can make things that last 84 years. They just keep them for themselves.
Taliskat
Fun fact, the average lifespan of building in China is only 30 year ish
TheForerunner
Probably cause they're not afraid to actually spend the money to repair/replace things
Zuzab
the infrastructure there is terrible
Zuzab
trust me, the shit there is just as bad
johnwayne12
Just because the cheap Chinese stuff you buy is shitty (because its cheap) doesn't mean china cant make high quality stuff
nightripper
Something I've learned from eBay. Native Chinese on package = good product. Engrish only = usually garbage. They don't fleece their own.
strugglecuddles
Jesus China, slow down man.
zhukoz
Every 3 months they build a city which can hold a population of 2 million. 3 fucking months.
ProfessorDumbass
Got to spend the money so the billion+ people got shit to do
Ittook7hourstochoosethisusername
The really scary thing? It's only recently that there were more people there living in cities as opposed to rural villages.
bleekosa
You literally cant even see the edge of Tokyo in the Now picture, its that huge.
timbukktrukk
You don't see anywhere close to all of NY in its picture either. Skyscrapers are going up all over Brooklyn and Queens and they're not shown
bleekosa
Yeah, but Tokyo is on a whole different level man, you see those mountains far in the distance, still in Tokyo.
timbukktrukk
True, Tokyo is geographically larger. But New York has many more skyscrapers.
bleekosa
Well, maybe, but who cares about skyscrapers lol :p
bleekosa
ITS ALL ABOUT DAT BASE!
DavidBrooker
Tokyo is larger than Canada, both in terms of population and economically.
Hybris51129
Anime doesn't lie you really can have a giant mecha fight and stay within the city limits.
SaraSlaughter
That one blew my mind the most. I just can't even. Like wow.
SirKnightLurk
tokyo has basically grown into and around other cities that once surrounded it.
TurangaLeeIa
What, no Chicago?
heffalumpisbetterthannone
There weren't too many cameras back in 1871
seventhson74
http://imgur.com/rFeWZ3W
Riyakou
I know, right? It's the mother of skyscrapers, and yet it's not shown.
thelongestwait
Or San Francisco
johnwayne12
There are way to many cities to show
bdonpwn
No San Francisco?
TurangaLeeIa
Yeah! I wondered about that too
Riyakou
Chicago is the mother of skyscrapers. It takes priority (or at least should).
bdonpwn
I agree. Both should be here, but this is simply about 'Cities' not just skyscrapers and I would venture to guess SF is globally renowned.
Riyakou
Hey, Chicago has the Sears Tower, dang it. Nothing's better than the Sears Tower.
Gmayor61
WhereIsOscarGoldman
He should do one with Hiroshima!
todipa
South Koreans are known to move mountains.
NoFoxLeft
I fucking love Seoul. I miss SK something terrible and I haven't been back there in 11 years. :(
puffthemagicdracula
I haven't been back in 10 years too. I can't imagine how different it is now
NoFoxLeft
Right? I only lived there 2 years and I consider it home. I can't imagine how much it must have changed. :(
puffthemagicdracula
Been back and forth since very little (was born there) and that was mostly in the 90s. Now it's like i probably won't recognize anything
MonteBurns
Thanks for pointing that out. I was going to ask if they had just blown the hills up.
MattyBeFiya
same with trees :p
deputoff
No banana? No scale
DoeDoesMum
Agreed
AushwitzIHadADollarEverytimeJewCallMeAntisemitic
Dubai's 16 transformation was pretty intense too
tommyfever
Yeah, terrible pictures to compare.
Doublespicy
It's because families would live with grandparents and had a lot more kids. The wealthy had separate wings for men, women, and entertainment
ASDFFDSAASDFASDF
making fun of the perspective. that one house is a city block's worth of skyscrapers
ChromeEagle
I think he was poking at the vastly different perspective between the two photographs. lol but your statements remain true.
mmurrbles
Seoul is nuts. Its so huge and spralled out it looks like it goes on forever from Seoul tower in all directions.
lonyo
It does (Seoul and greater metro area) have 50% of the entire population of SK in it.
BranOfTheNorth
Holy shit are you serious?
Or10nSharkFin
Correct, and they're able to achieve that with a metric fuckton of apartments all over the area.
zFUBARz
funny thing is it's still damn easy to get around.
Or10nSharkFin
Seoul's metro system is extremely efficient once you get used to it, and you also wouldn't be hurting for a taxi anywhere you go.
Imstruttinmyasslikeidontcare
When I see Dubai, I can't help but think that this expansion has been made mostly on the back of slave-workers.
SocialMediaMakesUsLessSocial
Now why does that sound familiar....
ProfessorDumbass
US prisoners are used as slaves but they still cost more to feed than the asian people making your electronics
becauseurwrong
Prisoners get paid tho, right? Tiny amount but...
SiNO3
The UAE has a long history of oppression and 200 years of slave like conditions because of the UK. They will have some growing pains.
JetSetGo
Lol wut? Dude, no. The UK mostly left Arabia alone. It's not just colonials that used slavery; it's been around for a long time.
SiNO3
The UK caused the UAE to stay in slave like conditions for almost 200 years! They wouldn't even supply doctors! Look up the history books.
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imadethisaccounttocommentonpictures
What was she imprisoned for?
ProfessorDumbass
Overstayed Visa, screwed over by boss lady.
Imstruttinmyasslikeidontcare
The irony. "your visa to leave our country has expired, why not stay a little longer in our prison"
ReallyAwesomeDude
Lol
Imstruttinmyasslikeidontcare
I think you should check the death toll related to building construction over there. It speaks for itself
imadethisaccounttocommentonpictures
It may encourage the emancipation of people but that still means slavery is allowed!
theresgarlicinthatnebula
Just because Islam urges something, does not mean that an Islamic country will follow.
Ihavewaytoomanyfavoritestosort
I get what you'r saying, but it's well-known that they used cheap, forced labor to get Dubai the way it is.
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Ihavewaytoomanyfavoritestosort
Actually, according to some reports yes, that is exactly what's happening.
Baghdadd
Yup, just like the phone you and I use, clothes we wear
NotFarEnough
While neither is very good, the laborers in Dubai have it worse off than sweatshop/factory workers in SE Asia
ForReasonsOfScience
Complete with suicide prevention nets skirting the buildings.
Taliskat
Jobs are created for local economy. It's shitty job but better than none for them
12345545545
Only 250,000 locals/citizens and the majority don't work in any meaningful sense.
theresgarlicinthatnebula
Did you miss the part about slave-labor?
Taliskat
Yes they need better labor laws, but people get paid no matter how small amount. And they wanted the jobs. Same with Chinese sweatshop
TheHumanCentipad
Better shanghai pic https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--QM2Swd65--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/18msfy0zfgqnmjpg.jpg
MostIndeedlySo
The older picture could be hastily mistaken for some American/European city with the building style, me thinks.
TheHumanCentipad
Because of colonialim.
MostIndeedlySo
Of course but it's just so very prevalent in that it doesn't look as a mix of two but a complete assimilation of a certain style.
Corntana
you can see the pollution
TheHumanCentipad
because same perspective
moriartie
I wonder why that tower has a handle
itsadvancedstupid
it was a round hole in the original design. i think the investor is japanese. it went viral among chinese that
itsadvancedstupid
the building is like a japanese knife cutting into china's heart, something like that, eventually they have to change it into this.
moriartie
TIL. Thanks
AridDay
MuhammadmustafeedPohsu
America is fuckin Evil.
thanatophilia
There goes Detroit
TheBarnetts
You're welcome -a democrat
vonmoony
ZRod
Ah capitalism
savethedepot
/a/E9PmJ actually Detroit is really beautiful right now because it missed the glass tower boom and has character.
savethedepot
modalnode
Dubai still makes no functional sense. Skyscrapers in the desert. Lunacy.
dohrmiester39
Phoenix is a testament to man's arrogance
StockyStockton
I see what you did there
Selerox
It's what happens when you give an iron age culture advanced technology and unlimited resources.
TheLords
*cough* vegas *cough*
JLNSNTY7
#tagthesponsor
Finain
Dubai is like a rapper. Just going "I'm rich bitch!"
nicesmellingcandle
Welcome to everywhere in Australia
Seanthombbomb
That photo of dubai looks the original end of total recall.. the building look like they connect into something.. fubar.. tokyo is mental..
Machiavellianism
i like that hatred.
hugs420
the whole city should be levelled
Runikal
Dubai has the world's largest indoor ski slope iirc... IN THE DESERT
Crazycanuck14
Just add oil
Paperbender
It's a setup for Deus Ex. Just wait for it.
whatseventhepointt
Or Spec Ops The Line
FckyourselfSarah
They have to create foundations that can support the structure. That's why they cluster around the deeply laid man-made canal.
MarkTh
Yes but as they don't really fund a fire-brigade capable of handling anything over 50 floors, it's kind of a self-correcting problem.
modalnode
arf!
ell0ell0
Everyone wants what they don't have. I grew up in cities, the idea of living in the country appeals to me. They were the reverse.
TheAnswerWasAlwaysMoreLube
Not me, I grew up in densly forested rural Norway, still want to have a home where going to the neighbour by foot is unpractical.
DoeDoesMum
That sounds like paradise to me. I live in suburban Ontario, Canada. Aboot (joking) an hour north of Toronto. And while I do like in a 1/2
DoeDoesMum
(Live* not like) city of 150,000, I would rather be out in the country. That's where I feel most at peace. 2/2
TheAnswerWasAlwaysMoreLube
Ah, Canada got some great wilderness in her. In the north there is luckily still some room for people like us to live.
RalinStorm
yep, eventually it'll fall into disrepair or be sold to some future tech company for secret tests.
tanadarko
Look at Vegas. Same stupid decadence - destruction of fragile ecosystems that such the lifeforce out of nearby ecosystems.
unsivilaudio
The real crazy thing is that they don't have a current picture, that's from the 90's, even more building was done in 2000+.
HansVerhaegen
I can't wait for that dogmatic balloon to pop.
icicledrops
1. Makes perfect sense when you have money to do whatever you want with...we have a "business partner" of sorts that lives there, he has
icicledrops
2. Invested/purchased a lot of our city, and has current undeveloped property in Dubai...the prospective layout is insane. Not just about $$
icicledrops
3. But also about the creativity and possibilities of what can be done in engineering and the like
modalnode
...not forgetting the horrific slave labour, of course.
IIRocks
Wow so furious such anger much hate
ProfessorDumbass
ever heard of Vegas?
Coldshade
A big ass dam helps.
Blastergv9
They should've had that one on here. That city has exploded in just a few decades
greggor
The tallest building in Vegas is only 750ft. The observation tower apparently doesn't count because it's not habitable. Burj Khalifa is 2717
norill
and your point is?
ProfessorDumbass
A skyscraper is a tall, continuously habitable building of over 10 floors. So Vegas still has them
greggor
Yeah, but they're not as impressive as the ones in Dubai :)
ProfessorDumbass
Can't afford to go to either, but might fly to New Zealand next week for a ski trip..and hobbit hunting
eion85
But without the drinking, gambling, and sex.
SuperNonHuman
Drinking is legal in Dubai. The clubs go up till 3:30am and that is because Morning Prayers are at 4am, so gotta end all the partying.
NewVegasResident
I don't think you know much about Dubai man.
eion85
I obviously meant legal drinking, gambling, and sex. Alcohol is severely restricted.
ProfessorDumbass
Yeah, I am pretty sure if you are stuck in an airconed palace in the desert and can't drink or gamble....you gunna bang
theresgarlicinthatnebula
Still illegal though
KharnApproves
I've been shitfaced on American whisky while shooting craps in Dubai. If you have coin, they have wares.
eion85
And I can get a hooker in Vegas, but it isn't legal.
KharnApproves
It is outside of city limits
SuperNonHuman
I've lived my life in Dubai for 20 years. Was born there too. So that's why I know. Just saying. :)
eion85
Congrats, but it's still illegal for nonmuslims to drink, premarital sex is illegal, and the only gambling that seems to be legal is sports.
SuperNonHuman
Nope. Arab drinks the most alcohol ever. In 20 years never once had a problem with premarital sex. In fact Dubai has a huge RedLightDistrict
SuperNonHuman
And the amount of sex and gambling there is Dubai, you wouldn't find it anywhere. Richest people in the world go there. They need to spend!
Schlorgan
I'm sure plenty of drinking and sex happens in Dubai.
eion85
yeah, but not legal drinking, and sex outside of marriage is illegal, though sex trafficking is rampant.
Yasb77
Actually drinking is legal there , its only illegal in saudi arabia and kuwait
eathotdog
I wonder if the illegality of premarital sex could possibly have anything to do with that.
SyrianPrincess
I just moved back from Dubai and I did a lot of legal drinking. But the sex and gambling is illegal.
listenupfivesatenisspeaking
Isn't it one of the least eco-friendly cities? Like creating islands (killing habitats) and building everything in a desert. Good idea rite?
PositiveX96
ever heard of desertification? they are trying to prevent that.
balthcat
Pretty sure the desertification's complete already.
Waminette
Apparently the islands are making safe habitats for coral and sea life
conkles
Also the area is very seismically active. That shit will tumble down as soon as the earth shrugs it off.
TheWalrusChannel
Short answer: big ol' poles in the ground
Diddyu
Do you honestly expect pragmatism from someone who look at a desert and thinks "home"?
balthcat
That's a stupid perspective. People born there think "home", period. I think living in Florida is stupid because of hurricanes & gators.
ASDFFDSAASDFASDF
it is kinda stupid...nowhere else has dangerous animals just roaming the streets unchecked except shitty africa
balthcat
Dubai isn't in Africa for Christ's sake.
ASDFFDSAASDFASDF
edit-except that one town in alaska that treats polarbears like raccoons but they're nuts anyway
ASDFFDSAASDFASDF
oh, and iirc la is infested with coyotes? but they're not nearly as dangerous as gators and
ASDFFDSAASDFASDF
"oh yeah, gaters'll just get into everything. /shrug"
ASDFFDSAASDFASDF
;)
Saberslayer1738
They are going bankrupt anyway
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12345545545
Those aren't families building the buildings. They are indentured single male foreigners whose passports are taken upon entry.
balthcat
There are HUGE human rights and labour violations going on in Dubai. It is lunacy AND exploitation.
HansVerhaegen
You mean the slaves? Because that's what they are. Slaves. Educate yoself.
rawrhayyyley
http://youtu.be/gMh-vlQwrmU Watch that to see that families aren't being fed.
IreallyMGur
Dubai is trying to become the mall of the world; located between east and west, convert oil $ into tourism $ before it runs out.
SatansLeftNipple
When the oil is gone, how will the tourists get there?
djxvillain
Who still likes malls other than 14 year old girls?
yampa
To expensive to go travel there, and besides why would I want to go when have all these other beautiful countries to visit?
UnexpectedZombie
They actually already did, Dubai's oil reserves dryed a bunch of years ago, Abu Dhabi is the one who still explores vastly.
DukeDarkwood
Everything I know about Abu Dhabi: Garfield sends Nermal there on a regular basis. And it's in the UAE.
SteveMND
I don't think that is sustainable. When the oil money does run out, however, those are going to make for an amazing Abandoned Places post.
Sparru
Because of the current world situation the tourism won't properly take off without them abolishing Islam. People are too scared.
ultrapwnd
The tourism already took off
TheHumanCentipad
With around 15000000 tourists each year, Dubai is among the most visited cities on the planet. With 'people' you mean yourself maybe?
cominginhot
not tourists, voyagers that are waiting for another plane
TheHumanCentipad
tourists.
Equanimous
Thank you for being the voice of reason Human Centipede
slaaneshBuiltMyJetbike
I've been to the middle east. Beautiful place and history, but I'd never bring my family there. Much too dangerous right now.
Equanimous
As someone who lies in Dubai, I feel safest here and would never move my family to another Arab city either, amazing places but too volatile
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Sparru
Few years ago a Norwegian woman was raped in Dubai, she was arrested and sentenced to jail for unlawful sex cause they are "pretty lenient"
Sparru
While it's better than in many other places stuff like that can't happen if they want billion dollar tourism.
xz1224
They are lenient to tourists, but not so much their own people. People there can be jailed just for swearing or kissing in public.
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khold90
Dubai isn't leniant. Sharia law is still a big part of their legal system. The various heads are extremly conservative and as such any 1/
Equanimous
But what does their conservatism have to do with tourism? People can drink, shop, etc with ease.
khold90
thing that is perfectly acceptable in US/UK/Aus can get you deported, thrown in jail or executed.
theresgarlicinthatnebula
Death penalty for gay people is lenient??
chaquitabananana
Not true. american girl, I live in uae. Such a mix of peoples/cultures Not a problem at all unless you're an ignorant disrespectful twat
Zokathra
Ha. http://edition.cnn.com/2013/07/20/world/meast/uae-norway-rape-controversy/
Alslaeh
How many rape victims are there in the US and EUROPE?? How many are in jail for fake rape allegations?? U took 1 Link from CNN and judged
theresgarlicinthatnebula
Death penalty for gay people? "not a problem at all"
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balthcat
Doesn't look like Dubai has that.
theresgarlicinthatnebula
Death penalty for gay people? Prison for kissing? Slavery for debt? Tourism's not going to work there.
solidorphan
Prison for kissing? You obviously don't know anything about Dubai.
BrendanDufftronic
Yeah, it's a shithole.
ultrapwnd
Give me a story on someone who was executed for being gay in Dubai.
balthcat
Up to 10 years in prison for having sex with someone of the same sex is a good reason never to go to Dubai.
theresgarlicinthatnebula
From what I can determine, most are jailed for several years and then presumably deported. Great for tourism.
PositiveX96
Well, it is working. It is tourism not residency that we are talking about here
theresgarlicinthatnebula
Yet they're getting resident slaves instead of repeat tourists. How lovely.
PositiveX96
Tourism is really a thing in Dubai, anybody who went there will tell you that. But on the other hand, you have bad treatments for labor 1
smashfaceawesome
They are a choice vacation destination for the Arab world. They're actually doing a good job of transforming oil wealth into something else.
theresgarlicinthatnebula
Tourism for those with oil wealth?
smashfaceawesome
Yep
TheUpdootist
I think that's the point. " Look at what we can do with all this money"
SwarmLord
Sandbox mode: on
NotFarEnough
And slave labor
ranger910
But is it actually sustainable or will that place be a rundown ghost town in 30 years?
shouldistayorshouldigo
Yes it'll be. The dubai royal family are incredibly savvy and visionary.
serban1703
Have you played Spec Ops: The Line?
ranger910
Nooe
serban1703
Fantastic story though it takes a little bit to fully get rolling. Otherwise, your average 3rd person, cover-based shooter. Highly recommend
ssjalhazred
It's already on the way to being a rundown ghost town in less than 30 years.
FelixG
with the way they spend money, it isnt sustainable, unless they diversify
JayEnfield
Unfortunately, Dutch Disease.
RelativelyRelevantRelative
southboundpachyderm
Goddamn I wanna give you a crisp high five. +1
samii1010
They already do, who do you think owns half of Europe? Also they invest in tourism and so on. They might brag but they're not stupid.
Counterfit
They built an indoor ski are in one of the hottest regions of the world.
Totallyscrewedinaustin
Did you not see the post yesterday of all the million dollar cars gathering dust over there? The buyer's skip town when they cant pay anymor
jobochan
Sauce?
dickiep
They've made it a lot tougher to leave now, I left the country back in March, completely debt free and still got stopped at the airport!
CrackedActor
Same reason they make islands shaped like palm trees: because they can.
mcfowlpants
For some reason I initially read that as "island shaped palm trees"...was confused.
ninjabot405
editheraven
Why does a dog lick himself?
GodzillaHarddiskson
For hygiene purposes, but I doubt that's the reason for the construction of Dubai
MajorGameage
That explains to me why they didn't bomb Tokyo over hiroshima... there was nothing to bomb
jiankui
*there was nothing left to bomb.
MyLifeisaComplicatedDrinkingGame
Tokyo was bombed HEAVILY, just not nuked.
cunninlinguist
*left
SkeletonTomJones
they did, fire bombed the shit out of it... that was what was left... the city was almost all wooden
EddieLiesHere
And yet none of the Japanese are suicide bombers but somehow every Muslim extremist is "retaliating" for US foreign policy
briarios3000
Technically Japan had suicide bombers but they were military personnel like Kamikaze and that ended with the surrender.
QuirkyWallace
Fun fact: The list of Japanese cities selected for atomic bombardment was pretty short since Allied fire-bombing had wiped off most 1/2
QuirkyWallace
major urban centres. The alt-history fiction 1945 by Robert Conroy mentions this among other implications of an US invasion of Japan. 2/2
AndoMaca76
It's actually quite shocking when you learn of allied civilian fire bombings... Puts the whole "good guys" claim into perspective!
MidlandRedux
Not really. You start a war that kills 60,000,000 human beings, bad things are going to happen to you.
worstsuperheroever
The U.S. actually picked Hiroshima and Nagasaki because they had gone almost untouched, by previous bombing campaigns.
IadoreCartoonButts
Actualy nagasaki wasnt target but because of clouds they couldnt bomb kokura so they had to drop it somwere
FrigginCornflakes
Mostly correct, Nagasaki was already on the list of targets as a secondary target if the primary target (Kokura) wasn't possible.
worstsuperheroever
This gave them a more accurate way to test the true destructive power of the bombs.
SocialMediaMakesUsLessSocial
Wow
SuperPickle17
or the fact US spent billions to develop 2 bombs and wanted to get the maximum return...
zhukoz
Alsothe Japanese high command weren't much concerned about Hiroshima & Nagasaki - they were very concerned that Russia had invaded Japanese
zhukoz
2/ territory between those two bombings. That was far more of a concern to them than the nuclear strikes (or their people's suffering)
bowtiezrcool
Tokyo was actuallybombed a lot except they were lesser bombs. Thousands died but not a lot of people know that
DukeDarkwood
'Lesser bombs' can be misleading, when they do greater damage.
feor1300
Seeing one guy shot by a tank will tend to have a bigger impact on your than 20 guys dying by firing squad.
Flyndaran
Thousands die almost every day from easily avoided dangers, but we will freak the fuck out over two Ebola cases in the U.S.
UmmRonYourOn
We don't need no water let that m'fker burn...or wait we DO need it...sht
eion85
They actually put Toyko on the A-bomb target list. It was removed by officers in favor of more militarily significant targets.
Gyiszzlakk
nice pictures of war crimes.. Berlin. Tokyo.
camelchicken
The Shinjuku area was where the Japanese had their Black Market after the bombings.
Pullout69
Nothing left after 3 years of firebombing (1942-45)
MidlandRedux
The first firebombing raids on Tokyo were not until February of 1945. This damage was all done over the course of about three weeks.
Pullout69
That's when the largest scale took place. The Doolittle bombings took place in '42.
MidlandRedux
None of the raids before the February 25th raid were firebombing. None of the raids before that one did any significant damage to the city.
MidlandRedux
The Doolittle Raid did almost no damage, and there wasn't another raid for two and half years.
OgreCyques
Hiroshima was a military center and iirc Kyoto was the capitol of Japan, not Tokyo.
JacenSolo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh5LY4Mz15o :)
CoyoteTraveller
That's exactly what I was thinking of when I read that. So nice to watch it again
JacenSolo
Happy to provide some happiness :)
37celsius
Tokyo became the capital of Japan in the 1800's.
apollo1983
SecNav went to Kyoto on his honeymoon, which is why it wasn't destroyed during the war. Or something like that.
apollo1983
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-33755182. Wait, I did more research.
ChronologicalMyopia
It was moved in 1868, a fact that was missed in my highschool text books in the 1990s.
SocialMediaMakesUsLessSocial
The beginning of the Meiji Restoration Era, correct?
Taihennami
The Meiji Restoration was an event, not an era - but that sounds like the right date. Moving the capital was considered crucial to removing
Taihennami
...power from the old elite. The city of Edo (now Tokyo - note the latter is just Kyoto with the syllables reversed) was seen as modern.
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TheQuietMan2
Comin' straight from the underground
impulsenine
Everyone? That's a lot of people to fuck. I'm going to need to up my cardio.
CanSomeoneHelpFixMySpacebar
I think that photo proves why you SHOULDN'T fuck with us.
zeethenomad
During the Korean war, we SLOWED DOWN our bombing at one point because there was literally no standing structures left to bomb in NK.
fettuccine
neat
tomyironmane
They bombed Tokyo at least twice. Just not with nukes.
nomad546
Consistent fire bombing in cities built of wood and paper. The atom bombs were just two large droplets in a storm.
Rararawr
Hiroshima and Nagasaki were also like the only things left. Everything got fire bombed
ZombieEinstein
Kyoto wasn't touched - Truman forbade it, because he visited before the war and thought it would be a crime to destroy such a beautiful city
TheManTheMythTheLurker
I believe our military leaders specifically spared them early on so they could get good before/after shots of the city damage.
throwthisaway83
In the case of Nagasaki, it was a secondary target. Kitakyushu was saved by the weather.
TheManTheMythTheLurker
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/nagasaki-bombing-burning-coal-tar-saved-kitakyushu-1458998
TheManTheMythTheLurker
I didn't know that! Wow. Looks like it might have been fog and smoke:
FBIWhobeyou
Unfortunately, this made the Japanese feel that they were safe cities, and they flocked to them.
tomyironmane
They were specifically left off the target lists, or LeMay would have burned them down too.
madybis
It was already bombed. What you see there is the destruction of extensive firebombing.
Reyald
People don't realize the power propaganda had before modern media. The reason American and Japanese military used such gruesome, inhumane1/2
Reyald
tactics was often due to fear instilled by their respective governments 2/2
MidlandRedux
Fear of whom by whom? The Japanese murdered millions of Chinese because they wanted to colonize them. That's not "fear."
MidlandRedux
There were actually about 90,000 Japanese colonists in Manchuria in 1945. The army abandoned them and the Chinese killed most of them.
TehRedo
Also photo is from 1945. Iirc Tokyo was mostly wooden homes and US used incendiary bombs. Which is why there is nothing in photo
FurryFeetys
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Tokyo https://en.wikipedia.o">of_Tokyo">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Tokyo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Tokyo#/media/File:Firebombing_of_Tokyo.jpg
JohnCalvinCoolidgeJr
incendiary bombs 'only' created 200-400 fires per load. BAT BOMBS would have given 3,625-4,748 fires https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat_bomb
SuperPickle17
http://imgur.com/epRvj20
SlightlyDodgy
It only takes one fire to wipe out a city built from paper and wood.
ItaloColombianAdventuresInJapan
Also, the Tokyo bombing was the worst one in ww2. Worst than the London raids.
Pirkale
The London Blitz pales in comparison to what the Allies did in WWII... Dresden, Tokyo, ...
WallpaperProblems
The Blitz is nothing compared to the Allied Bombing Campaign, which is no where near the damage caused by the Lufwaffe in the East.
DTownFunkyStuff
Fuck yeah
DTownFunkyStuff
No seriously fuck yeah guys let freedom ring
Mmmnaw
Exactly. Targets selected based on the lack of bombing to measure the effects. Kyoto a cultural centre, was removed from the list early.
Mmmnaw
Their priorities were opposite of the allies. Atomic bombing of Kyoto would have prevented a quick end. Nothing left to live for doctrine.
lonyo
Shame the Japanese didn't have the same consideration for countries they invaded.
Fenriswaffles
The consideration may very well have been practical rather than empathetic you know.
Mmmnaw
ALSO Kokura was the first choice for FatMan.. After 3 attempts through cloud cover, they diverted to Nagasaki. AMA. I know A LOT about this.
RoosterHogburn
The firebombing of Tokyo between March 9-10 1945 actually killed more people than the bombings of Hiroshima or Nagasaki.
flapperfemmefatale
does that include those who died from the after effects of radiation?
Flyndaran
Radiation kills within days to weeks. Cancer increases are statistical and not as much as most realize from single event irradiations.
bigh0rse
Not enough people know this. Read Flyboys by the same guy who wrote Flags of Our Fathers for some vivid accounts
TheCommunistComrade
Yep, too many people think the nukes made Japan surrender because they killed so many people, which simply isn't the case. An equally 1/2
TheCommunistComrade
big problem is a lot of people who think we shouldn't have bombed them also don't know about the firebombings so their arguments are 1/2
TheCommunistComrade
absolute shit, not there at all in fact. I learned this the hard way when I picked that side of a debate in highschool. Japan might have 3/4
TheCommunistComrade
been influenced by our nukes when surrendering but by no means was that the only factor at play, and if it was I don't think they would 4/5
lallapalalable
Miyazaki's movie Grave of the Fireflies is about two kids orphaned from the firebombing.
thisisyourtime
HOLY SHIT! THIS!
Eowyneb
This is true, however the extensive damage and the people still dying from the atom bomb (as well as its long lasting effects) wins in death
Flyndaran
Not really. Radiation isn't magic. Two tiny nukes are horrible but nothing compared to modern types.
LeonSeie
I also think the Psychological effect. Everyone expected 100s of planes to do a lot of damage, no one expects 1 to do that much.
SuperPickle17
"still dying"? Any radiation left behind has long ago dissipated back to background noise.
rumandbass
As in, dying of diseases caused by the blasts. Tho at this point i think most of those affected have been long dead.
Flyndaran
The number of birth defects and lasting genetic damage didn't occur anywhere near as extensively as expected.
AmArschdieRaeuber
And people still say there were "good guys" in ww2
022981
These bombings are NOTHING in comparison to the atrocities that Adolf Hitler's and Hideki Tojo's men committed in WWII
022981
Do you understand war? In order to "win", you kill your enemy or kill their will to fight. Without us the world would be under Japanese 1/2
022981
4/4 bound to their cause. They would not surrender, that would take as many of us with them as they could. The least deadly option was to4/5
022981
3/3 all non Aryans would be murdered, there would be none of the freedoms that you know today. We fought enemies that were ideologically 3/4
022981
2/2 and German control. The Japanese would be unchecked in the pacific and the Nazis wouldnt have to fight a two front war. 2/3
022981
5/5 kill them, instead of them taking us with them.
whatseventhepointt
The winners were the good guys. Just like every war ever.
MyPasswordIs1234
+1. That's why some think Soviet Union was a lot better than Nazis. (Also, bombing civilians made US win, but it was some Nazi level shit.)
TheCommunistComrade
Good point actually. I've never really realized that massive bias. Every war I can think of I'm on the winner's side
OgreCyques
16 years. Only 16 years!
RingSting
Funded by all the plastic shit we buy from them lol
Mistresspudding
singapore is not in china.
PianoMate
We went from third world to first world. But the attitude of the people here are 4th world
Pseudosim
Amazing what you can do with a benevolent semi-dictatorship
pleasedonotmicrowave
Thats my entire time on this planet
Chewy4President
Shanghai wins this catagory for me. 20ish years from 0 buildings over 3 stories.... to that metropolis. Jesus.
terminalvelocity
Shanghai had always been a major city though, my uncle grew up in Shenzhen and it was literally farmland to metropolis
HereToKickAssAndChewGum
Well, it was a large scale reclamation project so it's not like it was just going to be sitting around empty.
Bystandr
To be fair , Singapore had centuries of focus prior as a major trading port , and the picture doesnt show a lot of the established city to
Bystandr
the right hand side of the pic. That said , the development pictured is substantial and rapid , as is most of China.
Quaxx
That seems actually more impressive then it is. Picture shoes just the edge of the CBD. Perspective not the same so it is misleading.
superafleck
live in Singapore for the past 11 yrs. it's more impressive than it shows. there are more cool stuff behind that 3 towers with surfboard.
SerialMoonPanda
It's not a '3 Towers with surfboard'... it's a pokemon go hotspot. get ur facts right
TheYellowOne
This is Dubai. And this is Dubai on Adderall
kworiginal
IdontshaveforSherlock
Same thought
pigzunderground
Don't be too impressed, Singapore was already super developed in 2000, picture just shows a tiny section of the island which was reclaimed
ChrisLucas1
Slavery and oil cash gets shit done!
angrypenguin
Did you not see fucking Dubi? I have family that lives near there. Basically Every building in the city is less than a decade old
Villainouscollarbone
Pinnacle of progress
Masterredlime
Yeah man growing up in Singapore, its kinda amazing how our country build so many things in such a relatively short period of time.
reptim
Haha, make one for Detroit with the same time span ;)
OrangePanda
Yea! This was the most impressive one for me too!
IMayOrMayNotHaveTroubleFindingAndOrChoosingAUsername
Not taken from same location, so not as impressive as it looks. Impressive banana bldg, but there aren't that many other buildings behind it
jmonster
Lots of these are not the same angle!
woolyworm53
I think we can all agree Shanghai won this one
SwarmLord
Well, to be honest many small rich countries have it easier to make super architecture really fast than numerous medium sized countries.
CarcosaAndTheYellowKing
Lol'd at black and white for the 2000 pic.... no color photos back then I guess.
Jarvert
I simply love Singapore, it's really hard to hate on it, hell even their airport is freaking awesome
GeraSol13
I also thought that.
hopefulwriter
You guys be crazy
ForeignShepherd
Myanmar is going to be next. Those types of countries are developing so fast right now. Check out Kuala Lumpur also. Fast development there
MuhammadmustafeedPohsu
Yup ครับ เห็นด้วยครับ
CactusFantastic0
Olympics is one helluva drug
ClutchMyUdders
I'm more impressed by Dubai
owlest
Dubai sux
ImmaLifeguardImHereToHelp
Same with Dubai, incredible
MuhammadmustafeedPohsu
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maxpaxman
they didn't have color cameras back then
nj23dublin
My friend moved there, that's the place to be right now
NelsaroniandCheese
I went there and the architecture juxtaposed with nature is simply astounding. It looked like the future.
imgayur
How embarrassing for Athens, looks like their only progress has been electricity.
comfortableshoes
I don't think it's embarrassing at all. They have a sense of history, culture, and place that they want to preserve. Rome is the same way.
Toasterpops
They used their ruins as target practice. They destroyed a lot of shit. The Greeks don't care.
exceptionallyaveragewhitegirl
Pretty sure the street by my house has been u see construction for 16 years
Ect0Gh0st
It's sad to know my favourite childhood places in Singapore are gone, but development is cool to see! Maybe a bit melancholy...
Mailvirgo
Then there's Greece. Just more houses in over 150 yrs.
zamsandwich
Can't believe it took them 16 years to invent colour. Isn't that crazy?
sweetlittlefox
+1 for colour and not color!
SvarvSven
Dammit, I was gonna write exactly that. Just take my +1
Elpizzabandito
NotSoAngryGuy
What I thought.
frostwarrior
Crazy how nature do that.
AJCanuck
Never mind that...look at Dubai! If you want to know what a lot of money and hasty planning can do.
aninvisiblemaniac
Yeah this was the most impressive
PressSec
I go to China twice a year and sometimes the difference in 6 months in INSANE.
Toasterpops
Different labour laws. They have 24hr construction and less safety laws than the west.
stressedandpissed
The same for dubai! But this one was bigger
AnonymousCouch
Crazy what you can do when you have 1.4 billion slave laborers at your beck and call.
Alslaeh
Nobody is forcing anybody to come work at Dubai. If u go to India, offer 1 position in dubai as a street cleaner. Boom 10k applicants.
alwayschilli
ALL THISE LIKES
alwayschilli
I meant lights
mypostsdontgetmanyupvotes
And "those"
terminalvelocity
That's not really fair, the rest of Singapore had skyscrapers, just that area specifically was a new development
kkus
Would it be insensitive to say I like the before picture more?
I don't mean to be offensive...
wzarya
why?it was a fishing vill before
SerialMoonPanda
Before 1890s. after that we were a British port
MegaDeuce
She got one of your kids, got you for 16 years!
thatoneyanderezelda
Right?
alfix10
And on his 16 birthday he found out it wasn't hiiiiiiiissss
theesweez
I get what you're doing here haha +1
TobiasFunkeAnalrapist
now I ain't saying Singapoor nigga...
ItsClemFandangoStevenCanYouHearMe
On point
AttorneyAtBirdLaw
My thoughts exactly
DarklordDemise
And dubai
lallapalalable
People saying "back in my day this was aaallllll open fields!" are only in their twenties
svga
1984 - 2000 is sixteen years and so is 2000 - 2016 ... feels different to me,
HereToKickAssAndChewGum
Shiiiit... Don't do that to me.
kkus
wasn't around in 1984 so that is like ancient history :P
PopatoMc
How to grow land on water 101
Givemesomepuppylove
That's pretty impressive
TheUpdootist
Pretty much all the pictures from Asia were impressive.
HighwayStar
riding on the shoulders of giants will do that.
Stopphotoshoppingyourdinner
Shenzhen grew from a small fishing village to a city of 14million+ in 20 years. That photo does not do justice to how amazingly fast it grew
ThatOnePolarBearOnTheLeft
Jesus, thats 700,000 people per year. How is it even possible to build that quickly?
MilitaryGlazed
Supply and Demand in a world market place, they make sooo shit much out there (alot of it knockoffs) and its cheap.
Stopphotoshoppingyourdinner
Cheep stuff but now a lot of electronics
andrewtater
You should see the changes from the mid '40s to now in Nagasaki! Talk about a difference!
Thetenntenno
Lot less burnt xD
kevinallover
Development level: Asian
ANewBadlyDrawnReactionImageAsIMakeThem
Fucking Dubai. Place is a masterpiece of capitalism.
boccs
A lot of that comes from a blatant disregard for safety regulations. They are built fast but in very unsafe conditions.
PaprikaSix
Isn't it basically slave labour as well? I'm probably being ignorant but I was sure the workers were getting a raw deal
boccs
Depends on the country and the company. Some might pay respectably, but many absolutely do not.
ChannelingLarryDavid
i'm not sure which asian city you're referring to, but the buildings in tokyo are incredibly safe. designed to withstand earthquakes.
MuhammadmustafeedPohsu
Thailanf
BigGulpsHuhAlright
And to think, it takes 3/4 of a year to fix a quarter mile stretch of road in Michigan.
DmitriFyodorovichKaramazov
Thanks to Lee Kuan Yew and British
owlest
British didnt really do anything
imtheimgur
Also Dubai
theesweez
Dubai was even crazier to me
TheNextHafthorBjornsson
Was it really? Just think about how easy it is to get things done with infinite money.
NotFarEnough
**Slave labor**
ShirleyYouCantBcereus
http://americainchains2009.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/slavery_01.jpg
BranOfTheNorth
Slave labour plus infinite money = tons of crazy shit
TheStigsShitPostingCousin
#5 is more impressive to me
AviArts
Yeah, but imagine the environmental effects.
WayfindingGuy
Slave labor and oil money
Aelinsaar
A real testament to money, power, and slave labor.
wzarya
they have oil money,we sucked dicks to get water from our neighbours.i belive we were more impressive
sonderguard
Dubai to me is the definition of absurd decadence without any culture to its name.
reux
Dubai is a temporary city. Someday when oil is not as prevalent it will look like Flint, MI
YoureAKidNowYoureASquidNow
Yeah but the rest of the city is horrible
TheOysterCracker
Dubai is only really that good lucking some places tbh
TheOysterCracker
Singapore its almost everywhere
theinconspicuouspilgrim
Ya honestly
WoopDeFrickenDoo
I can't look at Dubai and not get an uneasy feeling. It's like some kind of parable about humanity's hubris waiting to happen.
hahayeahlol
i've been there. it is obscene in its decadence.
comfortableshoes
Wow, that got me thinking... Well put.
windragon
one of the reasons spec ops: the line is so interesting
ginastringr
Yeah but singapore did it without oil money
Machiavellianism
Well singapore is tax and corruptor havens of asia.
khora
So did Dubai. It has no oil, so it started financial and transport hub for middle east.
Heavymettle
Doesn't that just mean they made the money off of oil in a secondary aspect? All the trade business is due to oil right?
Midz
What's wrong with oil money? Jealous much?
Midz
Look at all the jealous downvoters. hahahahahahahah
SauceOfTheBoss
No, you're just thick
SauceOfTheBoss
Found the oil worker
superafleck
oil money is diminishing.. singapore's money is still growing and no where near its peak
Midz
But he is talking like they stole it.
Totallyscrewedinaustin
They did it with drug money.
owlest
what the hell are you talking about? Singapore has zero tolerance for drug trafficking
superafleck
they did with with asia banking & china-western relation money.
Pacifisticuffs
Singapore and its zero tolerance? I don't think so. More like shipping, financial investments and overseas partnerships.
Beaned
Singapore has a death penalty for drugs?
SerialMoonPanda
Yes. We have capital punishment for drugs, rape, murder. there's not much freedom here. you can't choose the way you wanna die (only hang)
theinconspicuouspilgrim
Haaha
Counterfit
They did it with money money
Havenscloud
Money did it with money money