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He's not a Security Guard. He's a Security Monitor.
Apr 20, 2017 1:58 PM
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skurnie
He needs a rocking chair
BeerandCats
I mean they are outside of the building, so he is doing his job
gr8whtd0pe
Charleston Town Center - Charleston, WV
Link12
People insult security, call them wannabe cops, then this shit happens and they want them to do what cops do. Makes no sense.
astrogeek
Recording for bum fights.
smittydoot
Hospital security here. It only gets real when the HMA papers are signed.
CommanderWilliamTRiker
Used to be one. Underpaid and at risk of termination if we intervene. Call it in, record it.
NomadMatt
sundaymondayhippyday
sundaymondayhippyday
DontTazeMeBrah
WORLD STAR
AntiCircleJerker
That shit was on Worldstar 15 minutes later
MerToo
He's only filming them because he hasn't seen two people who aren't morbidly obese in the same place in 20 years
ChaseBergeron
defuse the situation... someone grab a pepsi quick
iLoveLampiLoveLamp
As a instructor once said "you ain't got a S on your chest, you ain't supermen. Call the police"
BobbyJ2685
Dude is like I don't get paid minimum wage to deal with this shit.
LevelNinetyNineWizard
Idk about most security places but my job pays well over minimum. Still not enough to deal with shit though.
SidneyHarbor
I wasn't sure if that was an exaggeration or not. You're about right: http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Security_Guard/Hourly_Rate
FORTHEFUNOFIT3
That's a funny commercial...
DeathBeUponYou
http://imgur.com/hErZe8v
dizzlefactor
that's not a fight, it's a bro snuggle.
revelator
Hit the double-leg, suplex, or shoulder-escape. If he manages to hang onto the guillotine, go for the von flue.
TheSweetReleaseOfDeathCarrysMeAway
You are walking camera nothing more. You are told to not interfere even if its someone being raped or risk being fired.ill take losing job
TCGView
I don't blame him. They'd have to pay me a hell of a lot more to get involved in some of the shit they see.
Diskocheese
How Bros Make Out - Episode 4: Outdoor Attention Whoring.
youraveragedeveloper
johnhughesathon
Did you get a call Terry? Did you get a call?
Theericaexperience
Security guards are hired to protect the company's assets, not to break up fights.
hodoria
All actions will be recorded for safety and entertainment purposes
SickOfThisCessPool
Totally thought they were having sex
Cowchips
ME TOO omg! I was like "dude I would totally record that, they're really going at it"
gatofeo
I use to work as security guard and it depends on your Post Order. I had one post that required me to observe and report. Part 1 of 2.
gatofeo
Another post I was given the power to arrest, detain or use force on subjects on my principles property. Post Order is key. Part 2 of 2.
Dreadric
LordCommanderofUsersub
Observe and Report. No $10/hr unsworn Security Guard is going to get in between two white dudes duking it out over some bullshit.
RhoSpider
Truth
TheDrunkChicken
I work in a supermarket and people are mystified that I don't give two shits when they tell me they saw someone nick something. (1/2)
TheDrunkChicken
If they're desperate enough to steal, they're desperate enough to hurt you. It's not worth it. (2/3)
TheDrunkChicken
Hand the footage and a report over to the police and let them do what they're trained to. (3/3)
millanbel
So I'm curious, what do you feel you are being paid for? Scarey presence to discourage minor offences?
maintaineyecontact
Hello , calling Paul Blart...
sometimesipostsockshere
Former security guard here: I felt like I was paid to be a visible "authority". Would not have fought with ppl though, not with a salary...
TheDrunkChicken
Sorry I should've been clear. I'm not a security guard, I just work there.
NorthWestOutdoorsman
Used to work as a security guard. You are in fact mandated to not interfere or risk being fired. Remember SGs have no real authority.
snipermonkeymc
Depends on the company. Some are trained and armed better than your local SWAT team.
theappsucks
Also fuck yeah usename. Northwestern local boy here.
Whyareyoudoingthis
I was told no touchy; if you get sent to court we won't be there for you.
assahola
I'm a SG on the weekends at a closed site. Thankfully barely anyone comes in to do work. I just play my 3DS and watch tv. Do a few tours.
UhhhhhNick
Tell that to the SG in florida that killed that little black boy
barnwolf
My friend learned that the hard way. Got caught by security and waited until the police showed up. Shoulda just ran.
drunkenvulcan
Only can detain if you witness them comitting a felony, then it's just a citizen's arrest
andrewthemiller
I will remember that [wink].
stusauce
Depends. I was in security, but it was for the govt. I had arrest authority, etc as long as I was on the agency's property.
Siddhartha
He probably already called the authorities and is recording for evidence purposes... That or for Worldstar!!
drowningfishy
Fun fact, security guards are not allowed to do that in the state of California. Nor audio record. Unless it's on security camera it is not
drowningfishy
admissible in court, nor will the cops take it into consideration. So depending what state he is in that could be illegal. XD
Siddhartha
What if they take their badge off and yell "WOOORLLLDDSTAAARRRRR"
HerculesSnoochSlammer
Same thing here. My boss's favorite line was "If they gotta gun, 911 and run"
InternetLawyer
Obama came when I was a security guard. His secret service people said if something goes down we run away as fast as possible or get shot.
HerculesSnoochSlammer
No shit. I was working right by Hopkins airport in Cleveland when he came in. They blocked all our driveways and we're posted on the street.
sandyman23
Current unarmed S/G in WA. Would get fired if I lay hands on ANYONE. Still would if needed to PROTECT someone though... no fucks afforded.
NorthWestOutdoorsman
Exactly. And there's actually protections afforded to anyone acting in good faith to end a conflict or health save a life.
icookfoodandfightfire
unless they have authority...the mall security near me has the authority to detain people until police arrive, not to mention armed security
NorthWestOutdoorsman
Anyone has authority as a civilian if you SEE a crime. It's called a citizens arrest. SGs have no more authority than you or I.
icookfoodandfightfire
yeah...thats not what i meant
155DangerClose
you do. You gain the rights of the property owner in terms of being able to evict from property, using physical force if you see fit.
NorthWestOutdoorsman
Not every company grants their guards the rights as a representative. It's a huge liability. And even when they do you must have-
NorthWestOutdoorsman
-real proof. Suspicion is not enough. Trespassing is a good fall back but there's a balance when force is involved.
MedicSailor
Depends on state and even county. I had the authority to detain people even with handcuffs where I was licensed as a security officer
NorthWestOutdoorsman
Everyone does. It's called a citizens arrest. But you have to have Proof of Guilt. Officers can arrst based on suspicion which is a huge!
MedicSailor
We were able to detain while we investigated further, didn't need proof of anything right away to do so.
MedicSailor
Nah, not as a citizens arrest, as in detaining authority as granted by the police dept. that licensed us, not just citizens arrest.
nuushba
Any rent a cop work stories for us?
drowningfishy
You know we hate being called rent-a-cops. We save that term for people who over step their bounds as SG and think they are PD.
nuushba
Sorry had no idea
drowningfishy
Well there you go, call us rent-a-cops you get on our sht list, give us food and we'll overlook all we can. Since some of us lunch is a joke
foxfire1112
they are basically people who watch an area and contact the police if needed. They are not armed in a way that they could help
OliverClothesoff70
I was a security guard for one day, then quit. I could not handle being that bored as a job. They said I was a "visual deterrent" to crime.
vonKaiser
half the time, you're only on the clock so the company gets a break on insurance.
HoneyBunchesOfStoats
I just realized, it's like a human version of those owl balloons for scaring off birds.
myweaknessisstrong
Presence is a deterrent. It's asset protection 101.
theappsucks
Could you CC this to every SG who's ever tackled me for skateboarding, since 1986? A great number of SG's don't know this.
RaptorCav
Depends on locality, in VA: armed security has arrest authority whereas unarmed doesn't.
TheBlackVan
Depends where you are.
NorthWestOutdoorsman
No it doesnt. Secueity guard is security guard. They have NO authority to touch you in the U.S.
gashstormniner
"Depends where you are" "....In the US" there are other places mate
Mithi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen's_arrest_in_the_United_States
NorthWestOutdoorsman
Still a guard. Anyone can if they have proof of guilt. An officer can arrest based on suspicion. Big difference!
ruferto
educate yo'self https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_guard#United_States
NorthWestOutdoorsman
Still a guard. Anyone can if they have proof of guilt. An officer can arrest based on suspicion. Big difference.
TheBlackVan
Yes they do. I am a commissioned security officer in Texas. If I can justify it, I'm gonna touch you.
NorthWestOutdoorsman
Anyone has that authority. But You must have proof. An actual officer can arrest and detain based on suspicion.
TheBlackVan
If I watched you do it, that's probable cause. The 2 in the video at bare minimum are "fighting in public" that's arrestable.
SovereignPhantasmia
Touch me up daddy
TheBlackVan
ThoughtsAndBeers
Classic case of the illusion of security?
FelixG
It really depends on where you are, every state has different laws for security guards. Every company also has its own polices on top too.
Cultistchan
the illusion of security is a hell of a lot cheaper then real security
NorthWestOutdoorsman
More specifically you have not been granted the authority (or trained) as an officer of the law. You are a civilian and must act like one.
NorthWestOutdoorsman
And then you throw in the risk and liability of the company you work for and they will fire you on the spot for jumping in. Record -> Report
floxsyu
not to mention that company possibly losing the project for the other company that hired them.
58weasels
Depends on State you are performing security in and the security contract/company you're working for
IllegalDuckling
The land of the Free!
solamnic
Texas has three classification of SGs Type II only Observe and Report, Type III are suppose to actively protect property and clients.
NorthWestOutdoorsman
Authority is still limited to property grounds and doesn't cover detainment without proof of guilt. Trespassing can work, but the-
NorthWestOutdoorsman
Guard would have to be a designated representative of the company. Some groups don't like giving them that authority. It's liabilty.
solamnic
Right. But when they are given authority it is definitely real. Plenty of SGs have a mandate to interfere.
NorthWestOutdoorsman
Interference when PROOF of guilt has been established. Only an officer can detain on suspicion. Trespassing is the primary fallback but-
MissAizea
Our security guards will wrestle you to the ground and arrest your ass
sonic745
Where do you work/live?
MissAizea
Nv, Casino
RosegoldEverything
What about type I tho
TheBlackVan
Level 1 was absorbed into level 2. The level 4 is bodyguards and UN-uniformed officers.
RosegoldEverything
Ah, I see, many thanks
OliverClothesoff70
And the third one?
TheBlackVan
Bodyguards.
SidneyHarbor
How do you level up? Do you have to grind a lot as a level 2 first to become level 3, or can you pay for an upgrade to do it quicker?
ilovesmashtaco
Micro transactions
grimwyrd
Just log in, stay in the forest... and kill 65,340,285 boars.
SidneyHarbor
Man, Destiny 2 early access sounds like a huge pain in the ass.
gunstarzz
That's why I play Hello Kitty adventure island.
Shewy92
It's a liability apparently if security gets involved. Also they can't give CPR even though they are required to be CPR certified
Incrementor
Over here, you can technically be fined and imprisoned for up to two years if you *don't* perform first aid. No liability if you do.
gatofeo
I have been assigned to many posts and never had a Post Order that forbade me to provide CPR/AED or first aid if certified.
InternetLawyer
When I was security guard I would have been fired if I refused to give CPR when needed.
Shewy92
I'm security at a warehouse and we're not allowed to go hands on or do CPR, both for liability issues
Noevilgifs
A non staff person needs to initiate CPR and then they can be tagged in to take over
mrdude88
People are trained at CPR have a cert last for 2 years. But if people aren't practicing quarterly, improper compression can be dangerous.
myweaknessisstrong
SG's can give CPR, we are covered by the good samaritan law. If the guard thought the fight could get lethal then he could step in. /1
myweaknessisstrong
source- I've worked security/corrections for 8 years. /2
NoPownIntended
I used to be WalMart asset protection. I could only give cpr if i took my badge out of my pocket and dropped it and gave cpr as a citizen
paulpounder
You sir need to do a post with Walmart guard stories.
NoPownIntended
The people have spoken! Well, person, but I'll take it. Consider it done. It shall be upon you by days end tomorrow. (CST)
Trecares
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Pharya
MURICA! lollllll.
BewareTheCrocigator
There's plenty of countries where this could apply
Pharya
And they're all equally stupid.
freiman
I'm security at a hospital we don't need CPR cert and are allowed to perform compressions
RoseFaery
Well I feel like hospital security is a little different than bank security or similar.
freiman
Yep we don't need CPR training with all thowe nurses etc around
rubber1duckie
Compression only cpr. Any citizen can use it. Im a first aid instructor and we're told to teach "any cpr is better than no cpr"
SurfSwitch
That's totally not true about the CPR part, for anyone. Good Samaritan laws; Google it.
nasukkin
Good Samaritan law varies from state to state. You aren't always protected.
SurfSwitch
Somewhat - when it comes to BASIC CPR in an emergency and you're not a licensed pro (doc/nurse), you're covered in all 50.
IconicNebula
That protects lawsuits, not termination?
SurfSwitch
It protects both. Worked as a Security Guard for years while in college.
dmax12
this is state dependent, and who it covers varies wildly
IconicNebula
My cousin worked security at the National Jamboree camp in wv, said the only thing he could do was call for help.
MCGrannyHands
Did some reading and apparently many independent living facilities have rules against nurses giving CPR so I guess a company could that rule
MCGrannyHands
I'm gonna need more info on that. I feel like it can't be across the board...Aren't you protected by good Samaritan /1
penguin002
Depends heavily on local laws for such laws to protect, there's also the risk of you making it worse and accidentally killing them.
MCGrannyHands
Laws? Where's the liability in performing CPR? I feel like it'd be more of a liability to have a rule stating SGs can't do CPR and then /2
ChrisMendez123
Might be related to Do Not Resuscitate orders or something. That we be odd, though
exenos
Some places don't have that law.
MCGrannyHands
I guess I'm thinking in the context of the US..to the best of my knowledge those laws exist in all 50 states
Sadpandathesad
Iirc the law protects the individual but not the company you work for. So they couldn't sue you, just the security company you work for.
UWantSumFuk
When you break the ribs people tend to be annoyed. If you're in a lawsuit country like the US someone could get sued for saving a life
MCGrannyHands
I just spent a lot of time reading about it and apparently such a case has never been litigated and lawyers seem to agree it pointlessto sue
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MCGrannyHands
Good samaritan laws do are to protect people from litigation for providing emergency care..Not to legally compel people to provide care
byohzzrd
Legally yes. But protection from corporate? No.
Sweetnlowdaddy
If you are paid to be there you no longer quality as a good samaritan. My guess.
MCGrannyHands
Have a death on your property. There are some pretty asinine corporate policies but can someone confirm this is a thing?
TheOneTrueNerd
I had to sign a paper saying I'd let the building burn to the ground, but I haven't seen anything about cpr.
Iwontbeback
Idk about everywhere but as a former lifeguard, people are allowed to refuse treatment, and even if they don't sometimes they come back 1/2
Zonfar21x
As a former SG we were required to know CPR but forbidden to do it. Good Samaritan Laws keep you safe in lawsuits 1/2
MCGrannyHands
Woah so I just went researching and found many independent living companies have a policy prohibiting cpr to seniors.
MCGrannyHands
Couldn't find anything about security guards, but I guess it's not outside of the realm of possibility..But it should be an illegal policy