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Oct 22, 2017 4:44 AM
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PietroAretino
I'll do you one even better America, Europe = No Tip; except mine in your mum.
nonCanadianGoose
Yea, but if you're going to go out and quibble over $1.19 then maybe you should be spending $30
Thisisheavydoc
Honest question from a non US citizen. Do you tip based on the pretax or post tax total?
AceBandito
The tip is supposed to be based on pretax, no reason to do it on post tax other than laziness. But we're American so that happens a lot
ExistentialDreadlocks
What's fucked up is tipping based on the price of the meal, not on the quality of service.
Carefuler
Yes, this especially makes no sense.
RobertxPaulson
He misspelled meth
neumatteo
"Just the tip, just for a second, just to see how it feels".
BtownMountain
It's never just the tip
ReiiamaKotsu
It mildly annoys me when automated tips are calculated from total and not pre-tax.
OnsFlodder
Doesn't exist in Europe. Tipping is voluntary. Usually ppl round off the bill.
vinny8boberano
Delivery that is on time is $6 + round off the bill to even dollar), early is $10 + rounding, late is $6 + round (rarely their fault).
Prototypo
What I hate is when they base it on the post tax cost. Like I'm supposed to tip the tax? That's fucked up.
TitaniumMonkeyBalls
Or alcohol. You order a $50 bottle of wine with dinner, no way you should cough up $10 tip on that.
BtownMountain
You don't. 4 glasses in a bottle. $4. No matter what the cost of the bottle is. $1 per drink. ALWAYS.
cheeeeesegromit
Leave it to a post about tipping to remind me how many assholes there are on Imgur.
beaubrent
Coffee baristas, cabs, hair people... American tipping is out of hand and infecting the rest of the world with pointless expectation.
fnordy
All who said stop tipping in favor of businesses paying a living wage: I haven't time to upvote you all so pretend you're one vote higher.
nonCanadianGoose
You mean like Taco Bell and McDonalds
fnordy
Well, I said in favor of. Whether they used to tip before, I still want businesses to pay a living wage.
donglover33
Businesses never pay for anything, pass the cost along to customers. $10 meal becomes $12 to make up for salaries. Just give $2 to worker.
SilverAura
I mean to be fair, that's what a business is designed to do by nature. Pay less than you make so you profit. They exploit unless controlled.
donglover33
Exactly, How could it work any other way? I'm saying why not tip the $2 instead of complaining that the business doesn't pay more.
pritsey
Tipping in the UK is walking into a farmer's field and pushing cows over.
AgamemnonsMemes
Don't cows sleep lying down?
CreepyGingerKid
Yes.
derekjohn
Except at Rick Stein's resturants where they expect you to tip. But he's well known to be a . . . . (your insulting epithet of choice).
pritsey
I've heard this about him too... Also Hugh Fernly Whittingstall...or as he's know "how much Hugh!"
JesusMaximus
16%,18%,20%... fuck you, pay your staff better.
GoAheadAndReportMeAreYouThatTriggeredYouTtansFaggotThisIsMy35t
Fuck you, or just replace them
Elonth
membah when 5/10/15% was standard. I membah.
topdollar38
I mean that's fine to believe that, but don't take it out on the server by not tipping
SendMeDogs
As a non American, when I worked in hospo, my employer paid me adequately for the work I did
SendMeDogs
Best thing is my partner works in a bar, and she gets tips, but we can still pay our bills without them
FredGarvinMaleProstitute
I too do math. I usually do it prior to the discount coupon being factored into the equation.
flamingflamingo
those poor cashiers
MrBinns
Why?
Mercenarity
Look at all the smartasses on their smartphones dialing in the numbers and rushing to comment $6.106 or $6.11.
khora
Yes, because no one could multiply by two in their head?
Dyslexicbirch
I dont know how to tip, seems we dont need to in Australia
poTAYtoesBOILemMASHemSTICKeminaSTEW
Yep. Better that way
chrishallett83
It doesn't hurt to tip for good service though - I always give my Dominos guy $5 on a delivery, and my food is fast and fresh every time.
Fairdinkums
It sounds bad but I'm glad we don't tip here in Australia.
ElonMusksEvilTwin
You can just not usually.
SilverAura
It's not bad. It means Australia is actually paying their employees for doing their jobs by their standards, not yours.
Dyslexicbirch
Agreed everyone is paid right unless its a seedy business
donglover33
What's right? I make $35 per hour in tips. Seems right to me.
Dyslexicbirch
Worked as a waitress for 7 years was paid a wage of $27 an hour also had a tip jar that at the end of the night i got my share. $50 usely
katseiko
In Europe, you eary your tips. In Japan, nobody comes back to your restaurant if you ask for a tip. Learn, USA..
notacanadianbutilovehockey
I've seen this at 2 other places. Worse, though, is when their total includes taxes, THEN they use incorrect math. Never been back to either
JosXII
i never understood tipping
rpatx
And do not tip on the tax....IMHO
underlord2132
20% tip? Unless the waiting staff were literally giving me a bj while I waited for food, no chance.
jccaldBeast
You might have to get the BJ, some really need that tip.
jccaldBeast
That can be arranged lmao
definitelynotanarc
Are you from outside the US? Here, 20% is pretty standard on account of servers making 1/3 of minimum wage.
DigitalBang
Its been 15% and should stay 15%. no sense in more.
SilverAura
I tip 10 or 15% if I feel like the server is being a sincere asshole, which has yet to happen to me so I've never tipped less than 20%.
DigitalBang
I have been in the service industry. Know the cash they make. 15% for an asshole? lol that confuses me.
SilverAura
Because we're all human and true assholes are rarely a personality but a consequence of a bad day and not worth a docked pay. [1]
underlord2132
I will never understand why so many americans hate taxes but are like "a 20% we don't pay our workers tax? SURE!"
gengumby
Why don't they just take it to the extreme and make people decide what they pay; infinite tips /s
peterzappfe
the solution is pretty simple, just raise the wages to normal living wages and stop guilt tripping people to pay for than they need to.
DigitalBang
The average server makes above “normal living wages” off tips they make 2-3x the cooks.
ThanatosElNyx
When I was in America in the 90s, the standard was 10%
NaughtButOne
Employers are required to pay the difference between earned wage and the federal minimum wage if tips don't cover it. They get their money.
PirateRubberDuck
I'm not sure America really understands the word "minimum".
SarminBandit
Why make tips so corporate anyway. If you liked the service think of how much you wanna tip, not what a chart says you should
SilverAura
Because from their perspective, you're doing half of their accounting work. Rather than just paying their employees, they expect you to.
SarminBandit
Ohh yeah that makes sense.
GoliathSkittles
While we're on the topic of silly American money customs. Why do ya'll not automatically include tax onto the price tags?
ElRicko20
Because we are America and for some reason we love inches and feet instead of the metric system. We pay our servers dick. Murica
d3jake
I suspect its because the first business to do this will loose money because people think their prices aren't competitive anymore.
Respond
.99 cents looks a lot cheaper than 1.18
Nickokolas
I don't know about the tax thing but as a southerner I have to know why you spelled it ya'll and not y'all
GoliathSkittles
Just a typo I'm afraid
smllsliketeensprt
Because sales tax is different in every state and that would require a lot of work and originization for companies that are in multiple stat
Barrett94
Not only by state, the sales tax in my city is higher than the city next to me, I pay 9.75% one city over 9.25%.
caralily
Hell, where I used to live, it was cheaper to shop at the old Target than the new because there was a special sales tax on one development.
everythingismelting
As an American, I wish for this.
tracereading
Because tax is calculated on the total.
rnantis
(A + B + C + tip) * tax = A*tax + B*tax + C*tax + tip*tax
maeyu
Certain states such as Oregon don’t have sales tax.
Cassiraa
When a store tries to do that, they go out of business. Same thing with rounding up from $.99 to $1.
trxrider500
So you know how much more you’re paying because of the taxes. If tax was included with the price it’s easier for the state to raise taxes.
mstrat
THIS. I wish it was the same way for income taxes, everyone writes their check to the government instead of it being taken in payroll. 1/2
mstrat
That would make people actually realize what they're paying in taxes. Most don't have a solid concept of how much they actually pay in taxes
mstrat
especially when you think through sales tax, income tax, fuel tax, property tax, etc.
caralily
Well, if you do your own taxes and take advantage of the sales and property tax exemptions you do. But, haha, no one does that. Software.
Muffdiver9
It's intentional so people will buy more thinking it'll cost less than it does in reality.
Cassiraa
When a store tries to change it, they go out of business. Same thing with rounding up from $.99 to $1.
UsernameAttempted
This.
Bendoger
Who buys things without factoring in tax?
Muffdiver9
Most people, probably.
Chickendew
People who can't maths real good.
Muffdiver9
They also make everything X.99 so you think it's less even though the penny difference is minimal it helps sell more units overall.
GoliathSkittles
Yeah it's the same here in Australia, everything is x.99 and we don't even have 1 cent pieces, it just gets rounded up anyway.
SirBagels
It's actually to force a till to open, and therefore be recorded, since if it isn't taxed the salesperson could just pocket say two dollars
Muffdiver9
I'm not sure what you're trying to say, but that explanation didn't make sense and I think you misinterpreted my meaning.
SirBagels
I couldn't quite fit it in 140 characters. It's antiquated basically, it was for when there was no electronic payment as anti theft
illysp
Well see. When you pay cash, the till needs to open so they can put the money in.
SirBagels
But whats to stop them from going heh it's two dollars nice sale. Then pocket the money when the person walks away since there was no change
nonCanadianGoose
As an American, I don't understand why they can't include tax either. Tipping is cultural relic from prohibition and McCarthyism.
OriginalPosetr
...McCarthyism? Got a source? (Not disbelieving you, just curious)
nonCanadianGoose
During the red scare and accusations of being a communist, tipping often was a public expression of being against socialist philosophies
nonCanadianGoose
Since the witch hunts were bad in Hollywood, it was a popular ritual there which made it fashionable for the public to emulate.
OriginalPosetr
Makes sense. Thanks!
serpentinebaboo
And prohibition? Why prohibition?
vinny8boberano
Because it's sales tax on the dollar, as opposed to consumption tax on the item(s)
bravotipo
Can you elaborate? As a European this makes me go mad more than not including wages in the price.
vinny8boberano
Local sales tax is $0.06 on the dollar. You buy a few things which add up to $5, then the sales tax is $0.30. That's American sales tax 1/
vinny8boberano
Consumption tax is usually a tax per item, so a $0.50 cent item with a $0.10 consumptions tax makes the item cost $0.60 up front. 2/2
gengumby
I believe it's more that the sales tax varies between states, and national chains couldn't be arsed to print different prices
vinny8boberano
There is also that!
amychelle1
Taxes differ state to state. Some states have higher property tax and lower sales tax. You can't mass produce tags with a price on them 1/
angrybeards
Sales tax can vary from town and county as well.
KingORedLions
We manage just fine in Europe. It's literally about hiding the real price from the consumer.
SteevyT
Fuck, tax varies from area to area within Chicago.
Thenameideserved
Well don't make tags then? Put it in front of the item, like a regular country
BobtheNinja
Not only by state, but by county, city, and even sometimes different rates in different parts of the city.
amychelle1
/2 and hope they go to the right place. Ex: Walmart clothes often have a price on the tag. Also, some states don't tax food, some do but 2/
amychelle1
/3 at a different rate than other items.
Corrodias
I've never seen a tag *on* an item that wasn't put there by the store... except clothes, *sometimes*, but those are often re-labelled, too.
Sininenn
There's digital price-tags. Those could be easily adjusted without having to print stickers. So it seems like you're being fucked with.
SilverAura
Because an unfortunate too many people here still think tips are optional and would be outraged to have it automatically deducted.
Dksimp616
They are optional. As implied by the name "gratuity". Its given in gratitude for exceptional service. It's not a fee, tax, or charge.1/2
Dksimp616
Employers use this system as an incentive for hard work and good service. Just as a salesman who works on commission.
GoliathSkittles
No I mean on everything, like stuff on the shelf in a supermarket...
SilverAura
We don't tip anywhere but restaurants because for some reason they're allowed to pay servers less than minimum wage. It's ridiculous.
GoliathSkittles
...I'm not talking about tipping, I'm talking about not having tax included into the price.
SilverAura
Oh shit. I completely read that wrong. My bad. Yeah, no, you're absolutely right. Far as I know, it's so stores can advertise lower prices.
ThePartyLeader
Was there a discount or coupon on the meal? If so the 20% is based on the non-discounted price so dicks don't top 100% on a zero dollar bill
SuckAnElf
I've had this happen to me many times, without discounts.
DubhIainn
It could be 20% on the total, and then tax on top?
ThePhDJ
Possible. I stole this image from Instagram. So yea maybe the tip is based on fully price. Which is fair IMO
NinjaPirateZombieNinja
No, they are generating the tip based on price+tax, NOT based on raw pre-tax prices. The company is trying to fish for bigger tips.
NinjaPirateZombieNinja
Or at least, that's what cheesecake factory did, and was taken to court for. :D
ADHSquirrel
+1 for fully price
imissmycupcake
1/3 I've seen both. I live in NYC and eat out a lot, and a lot of places have started doing this. Point is, it's not consistent.
imissmycupcake
2/3 I've always calculated off of total bill, pre discount of applicable, post tax. Some places do pre tax, so their suggestions end up
imissmycupcake
3/3 being lower than I would normally tip. Either way, as former service industry, I only tip 20% for basic service, anything better, more.
AnarLape
A lot of bills include the tax into the tipping calculations
kilmore
definitely.
Dofishhavedreams
7.59x5 = 37.95 and 30.53 is 80% of this figure so a round 20% off coupon is likely and just a customer wanting to feel like a big man
NameNotFoundException
But a 20% coupon would leave the tip at 7.63, not 7.59
BtownMountain
I tip on the ammount owed. #notmyproblem.
KillerTofu615
Doubt it, I've seen numbers like these at Applebees, TGIF, O'Charleys and BWWs. I always check the math if they have "suggested" amounts.
SnarkyScience
I’ve seen it too. I call it an arithmetic tax.
KillerTofu615
Yep, I also leave a nice note stating that if they're willing to lie to customers about tipping amounts, their servers should quit.
swoman1023
Exactly!!! Tu!
glodunbaraki
Your country really needs to sort out its wage situation. Tips are meant to be a bonus for good work, not a basic part of the bill.
tcgl
I agree, and somehow we all seem to know that, but it never happens.
bigblindguy
Well, try living in opposite world: in the UK everywhere pays minimum wage, and employers advertise that you'll be tipped. You wont. Ever.
glodunbaraki
I live in the UK. We pay better minimum wage here than the US. Everyone knows you won't be tipped, even if you do a good job. :D
glaug
Reminds me of when a Domino's mgr made my order free because of a problem. Deliver driver was surprised I tipped him on a $0, but it's 1/2
RandywithanI
Makes you wonder what kind of assholes he's delivered to in the past.
glaug
I suspect a lot of people wouldn't have thought twice—tip is x% of the bill, so no bill, no tip. I can see it being unintentional, but dumb.
teekal
If the server goes out of their way to correct something by way of a discount I actually just still pay the correct amount, except in a tip.
glaug
That's kinda how I do it when the bartenders give me free soda at the karaoke joint. Maybe that's why they always give me free soda..?
raulote
So, 25% of 0. There you go. Cheers mate!
glaug
Ha!
Nikkiaz
If something is messed up on my meal and taken off the bill I tip extra of service is gopd. Not like the server made the food wrong.
Eudonidano
Same here, especially when the server is overly apologetic and does everything they can to fix it.
glaug
not like it's his fault they ran out of sandwich bread. He still had to drive it to me, so why would I skip the tip? 2/2
FakeUserToMessageHornyPeopleWith
Just the tip
DumpoldRant
Being a delivery driver was my worst college job. I didn't make their food, but I usually got no tip if there was any single thing wrong.
WellAckchually
That's messed up. I only cut my tip if the delivery guy screwed up. Like the time I had to go out in the street and find the lost delivery
WellAckchually
guy. Then, once I saw him, had to say "I see you, turn to your left. Your other left. Not that far..."
ImGonnaSquirtHnnnnnggggg
That's odd, I made really good money doing Chinese delivery in high school. Easily cleared $300 on Friday and Saturday nights.
OfficialSponsor
Weird, I delivered for a Thai restaurant in high school and took in $2000 a night
DumpoldRant
Don't get me wrong, it usually paid great. I just wasn't thrilled with the idea of my wage being dependent on random people's moods.
10percentofthetimeitworkseverytime
Every time one of these is posted it's always the same thing. The suggested gratuity is based on the full price just as the tip should be.
10percentofthetimeitworkseverytime
And if you backtrack the math it matches a 20% off coupon.
ThePhDJ
I just did the math. You’re exactly right
karm42yn
The tip should be based on the level of service.
PatrikLilja
Came here to write that.
Kompi
Honestly, more importantly, the tip shouldnt be the main income for a waiter or waitress
kaarbaak1337
You mean "should be"
OfficialSponsor
More important for some not all
cheeeeesegromit
But it is. So.
Kompi
Treblaine
I never got this, what are the "levels of service" that are determined by wait staff? Not food quality/speed, that's salaried kitchen staff.
Treblaine
The proper control is to not come back if the service is bad. If it is truly terrible like food takes longer than promised, walk out.
LordHosk
Are they polite, do they refill your drinks, did they get the order right, did they leave and you have to ask another server for your check.
LordHosk
failing to complete a request that is within their control like extra napkins or sauce. bringing the the wrong tables order to your table...
Treblaine
If the owner hires too few staff for the size of his restaurant so tables can't be served quick enough, why should waiters be punished?
absurdum123
Friendlyness, making customers feel welcome. Information about the meny, possible tips regarding certain dishes, knowledge of the food etc
absurdum123
More than the the bare minimum of course
Treblaine
Friendliness is for friends. What you get from professionals is courtesy. Minimum wage mandated friendliness is a bane on humanity.
Treblaine
So, if waiter is clueless about the menu I complain to the manager for charging me so much yet not investing the time to train his/her staff
Treblaine
I refuse to financially punish waiters because their manager refuses to invest in training them with knowledge of menu/food.
deadonmyfeet
Get rid of your stupid fucking tipping system
Corrodias
I'd love to, but we have a lot of huge issues at the moment, so this is waaaaay down on the priority list.
RobKnob91
Honestly though my friends who work as bartenders and wait staff don't want to get rid of it
LaziestGoodBoii
We've gone through this before, Mr. Pink.
Muttons1337
If it were so simple to just drop that system country-wide, I'm sure we would have done it already.
AgamemnonsMemes
Except big businesses don't want you to, its not about it being simple, which it is, its who wants it.
Muttons1337
That's my point. There's a reason it's still a system of payment here.
hagenist
And while you’re dropping things maybe measure up to metric :P
Muttons1337
USA uses metric for international commerce. One can hope that we will eventually use it all over.
hearthstoneaccount3
It is though. Pass a bill through congress and done.
Muttons1337
Oh just pass a bill? Yeah, go ahead. Write one up and see how well that goes. I do mean that sincerely. I would love for it to pass.
Yueling
This is a good tip
ThePhDJ
https://media.tenor.com/images/88405a4874c97b0e4d5696acb83af42a/tenor.gif
Darkspire
Wipe front to back.
Alysaere
Floss it like the genie in Aladdin
redrought10
If the 20% tips are removed, then owners will have to pay the workers x amount more so food prices will go up. You will pay the same anyway.
nonCanadianGoose
Usually more, kitchen labor cost is set at 25%. I see no reason an owner would reduce that or give the servers more
lysarion
I don't see how that would be a problem. But i'm not living in the US, that's standard practice here.
evanescence
1/2 The price increase is because people are naive. They up price because people says "Everything going up anyway". Managed a food market...
evanescence
2/2 Had the same providers than big grocery places, the meat and other food was like 1/4 of their price. Same providers! Nothing goes up.
NeutralPitStopCommenter
But employees will have to pay their staff actual livable wages!! It'll bring down the economy! /s
ThatsMySecretCapImAlwaysHorny
Won't prices go up 10-15% and everybody start ranting at that? I'm just waiting for the results of Fart's "America first" policy to hit.
Chievestevenbouigon
I would imagine the prices would go up but then restaurants might have fewer servers working, so less good service.
Darkspire
get a better job! You shouldn't have gotten this one if you didn't want to get stiffed! -them, after refusing to pay a tip
mrmartini
Never understood that argument. One person gets a better job, another replaces them. Nothing is fixed. Everyone gets a better job, the 1
mrmartini
2 restaurant would no one to feed your fat ass. Why do we shit on the people who work in industries we rely on so heavily? Retail, food?
Darkspire
It's usually people who like controlling others who say it.
kingkev
Unfortunately it would be the family restaurants that suffer. A lot of owners barely scrape by as it is.
mrmartini
DutchyMcDutch
Honestly, if your business can't exist without paying proper wages, perhaps your business shouldn't exist in the first place.
nighttimedrinks
Increases in cost are represented in the costs of goods. Prices to eat out go up, but no need to tip = Same same, just standardised.
PedestrianElectrobastard
The difference is that restaurants don't get to advertise their shit as cheaper than it actually is. Same reason VAT isn't included in th US
nighttimedrinks
I see your point, although if it was the same country wide then they'd be just as competitive, except the price is higher across the board
PedestrianElectrobastard
I agree. Both tips and the VAT thing should be abolished.
kojenk
Feed the family to the workers!
trainsman
Yup and to pay a "livable wage" would take away the ability for customers to tip poorly when they believe they've had shit service. 1/2
trainsman
Otherwise, you're stuck paying the full price or going into "can I speak to the manager" territory. Tipping empowers the customer IMO 2/2
Brobuscus115
See thats why I like the way Tips work in Canada/Boston Pizza. Servers are paid a livable wage, then tips are pooled based on tables 1/2
Brobuscus115
and hours done. Then it is distributed. One downfall is that server tips are taxable because of the systems in place. 2/3
LadyPeppercornthethird
But then the good servers and the shitty servers get the same amount in tips.
BluePaladin42
Boo fucking hoo. The tipping system doesn't actually really stop poor service. But it does enable cheap assholes.
mrmartini
You get what you pay for. Maybe insisting that paying the people who feed you not enough to feed themselves is why your service is shit.
DaddyDune
They don't suffer anywhere else in the world
Shoutrr
yes, but..that's communist!
DaddyDune
Interesting - I didn't know my democratically elected government was communist? LOL
Shoutrr
well, the thing is, if you think that taxes can be an effective way to take care of a population then you're communist.
LrrrrRulerOfOmicronPersei8
That’s capitalism for you.
Shoutrr
it's capitalist in other countries too. this is just falsehoods based on stupidity.
stagg572
Most servers and wait staff I know feel that they make significantly more with the tipping system and would rather have that vs a salary.
bravotipo
But maybe it's because is not taxed? Does anyone know? (I keep wondering any time I visit the USA.)
LazyLizardLife
Tips are taxed all to hell. So the company is telling you that you have to make your living on tips and gov says fuck you.
stagg572
No, its the size of the tips.
mthrndr01
It's taxed, but cash tips will frequently go unreported.
bravotipo
this is what I meant. I guess everyone would prefer 100 salary plus 50 in tips unreported/untaxed than 150 in salary entirely taxed.
ChloePrice
And customers would rather not be forced to tip, so... If you don't make enough on salary, your job is unskilled or your boss is a fuck.
ReluctantHero91
As someone who works as a server, you right. I would never accept salary working as a server in a restaurant
tonypotsandpans
Server here, me either. Salary pay is specifically to fuck workers out of money.
c0nflict
But the thing is, you can *still get tips*
ReluctantHero91
It could just be my boss, but accepting salary makes you the company's bitch, and the work he has us doing for the money isn't worth it
stagg572
The world just isn't built on sustaining that kind of salary model for the service industry. See the now defunded research on Seatle for ex
CompelledCynic
This seems to be the problem a lot of people are struggling with. You can still get tips on a salary, they just aren't guaranteed anymore.
squatlow17
Nope. No way employees are going to pay their bartenders $45-$100+ that I make when It's busy.
squatlow17
Employers
Corrodias
So we're being overly generous, it seems. I *thought* $1 for opening a bottle of beer was excessive.
UsernameAttempted
Simple solution: EMPLOYERS are responsible for compensating THEIR employees.
KingDingus92
You're not saying you don't tip, right?
ElonMusksEvilTwin
I'm from NZ and tip when it's deserved (most of the time). The minimum wage here is only a tad less than the living wage so all is good.
mrmartini
Also with tips, your income is contingent on the cook's work, your attractiveness, a song & dance routine, competition among waitstaff, etc
sisterofthemoon
This is true. Waitress gets rewarded or screwed even if it was out of her control.
UsernameAttempted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_vivC7c_1k .
Spiderbubble
Pay people normal wages, tips are TIPS. IT IS A BONUS. If I LOVE my server, that's when you should tip. Like "damn dude, you're awesome"
evanescence
Appreciation level shouldn't be based on the tips amount. Otherwise someone more limited on cash is automatically appreciate you less?
draagmad
Basically how it is in the rest of the world. Ive never tipped in my life
GoAheadAndReportMeAreYouThatTriggeredYouTtansFaggotThisIsMy35t
Noy when they can just replace them
mop82
Employers are legally obligated to ensure their employees are getting paid minimum wage if they're not making enough in tips.
mop82
However they're not obligated to keep that person employed. Picture of the legislator responsible:
Mansooratyale
You can't do that in the US, this is not Japan
CallMePete
You can't pay you workers?
Mansooratyale
They don't accept tips in Japan, they consider it an insulting
somethingski
Good luck man. Employers have been fucking their employees forever.
nonCanadianGoose
They'll have no problem fucking patrons if you let them determine the labor cost.
johnson21
That's madness
lavendergirl
EMPLOYERS:
raulote
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LadyWidebottom
Man, did somebody rob this gif of pixels or what?
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storebrandproductmascot
It's like trying to watch a video on the Internet in 1996.
LadyWidebottom
Except you don't have to wait 30 minutes for it to load.
UsernameAttempted
MySpiritAnimalIsTheUnpopularOpinionPuffin
ComeBurnMe
I don't tip
UsernameAttempted
fleacollerindustry
Depends on the state. California does; tips are above min wage.
khora
I had dinner at Baumé, Palo Alto. They refused tip.
SamArt53
It's so weird being an American and traveling in Europe where in some countries tips are included.
raulote
in some? in all
slashbye
No, not at all. Whole DACH area doesnt include tips. EMEA aswell...
raulote
Sorry, I'm from there and the tips are optional. Servers get a full salary. Same for Austria, and highly doubth the Swiss have a system like
raulote
America. No one, NO ONE earns less than 10EUR an hour.
Gandynutile
Service is included. Tip is a tip, you add it if you want, as it should be.
imnotthatblonde
tips arent included, employees are paid the full minimum wage, tipping on top of that for excellent service is still a thing
soejmud
That's a weird way of putting it. You don't tip at a supermarket, either, do you? Sure, they sometimes write "service charge" on the bill.
soejmud
But that's basically just spelling something out that should be obvious - they need to eat too, and they are actually being paid. *shrug*
pfffffffffffff
Tips included??? Nooo, we don't have tips. Employers pay their employees. You can tip as a thank you if you like or to hit on a waitress...
UsernameAttempted
[tips hat] "M'lady."
LlamaLingo
Then the food will be more expensive. Now staff are more inclined to perform well as their salary depends on it, at least theoretically
MerToo
shall we adjust that for reality? "more inclined to debase themselves / work insane hours as their survival is at stake". Pfft. what salary?
bravotipo
Here in Italy too. Taxes and employers wages are both included in the restaurant price. So you what you are going to pay in advance.
justsomepersonbutyeah
Thats something I find really confusing in the UK. Everyone is entitled to THEIR EMPLOYER paying the minimum wage, anything tipwise is extra
justsomepersonbutyeah
*something I'm confused ABOUT living in the UK. (What I meant)
Alighierian
Why would that be confusing? If anything, it makes no sense to have income of an employee based on a client's mood swings. Employers |1
Alighierian
2| paying minimum wage and clients paying 'tip included' prices means everybody knows what he's in for, given he/she isn't a dick, ofc.
justsomepersonbutyeah
I meant that I live in the UK and its confusing otherwise
justsomepersonbutyeah
I agree as you are working for the employer not for the customer
MerToo
How would you like to work your ass off and get no pay because customer is an asshole / a jebus-freak / poor / hungover / whatever?
justsomepersonbutyeah
I worded it wrong I meant that I live in the UK and I'm confused how it can be otherwise.
justsomepersonbutyeah
Also why would being a jebus freak come in to it? Just wondering because this sounds specific enough to warrant a story behind it.
peteyboo
Some religious folk like to "tip" with a fake bill that says "THE REAL TIP IS BELIEVING IN JESUS" or something like that.
justsomepersonbutyeah
I'm certain Jesus doesnt like cheap bastards
nonCanadianGoose
As if they'll be fair the patron. Kitchen labor cost about 25%. Idk any owner that wouldn't just keep the 5% b/c ppl are lazy & math is hard
corbynDallas
Tipping drives good service, in places where they don't tip, service is shit.
darkdragonempress
Technically the methods of maximizing tips often conflicts with creating a good atmosphere for the patron.
hearthstoneaccount3
Is a waiter interrupting your meal constantly and talking too much considered good service? Take my order and leave me the fuck alone.
corbynDallas
Good service is recognising if you need a lot of attention, or if you're an asshole who wants to be left alone.
hearthstoneaccount3
Good service is an automated system such as a phone app. A human cannot produce good service as there are too many points of possible error
TheRealAngelS
Why does wanting to enjoy my meal in peace and without unnecessary interruptions make anyone an asshole?
corbynDallas
The guy I was replying to sounds like an asshole. Not saying everyone is.
PmMeGifsForSauce
While I agree, you'd be hard pressed to sell that to people who serve for a 'living' they like the flexibility. And I can respect that.
UsernameAttempted
Well they've already duped them into working for flexible compensation...
PmMeGifsForSauce
I mean says you from the outside, but I have serving friends who can make in a night what I make in two weeks. So -shrugs-
UsernameAttempted
Yeah, "... can make...".
PmMeGifsForSauce
Yes... Can make. What's your point. I'm saying this is what a lot of them prefer. The option to make that in a single night. The chance >>>
UsernameAttempted
The point is that the customer shouldn't be guilt-tripped into doing the employers job.
PmMeGifsForSauce
No that's not the point now were getting into an ethics issue. The point was that the system is still in place because servers prefer it.
JustFuckingWatchCowboyBebop
I've used both systems, and I seriously prefer tipping. When I went to Australia the servers were seriously lacking compared to the States.
bobon123
I simply can not stand service in US. The fact they are nice to me because they want money is really affecting my ability to eat and relax.
Invada
I have the same expirience vacationing in most Southern European countries.
MerToo
That's because in Australia, the staff are not terrified that you will leave them literally facing destitution if they don't slave for you.
eddine
Servers in the us are the rudest I’ve encountered. Japanese and Germans are top notch
sneaker2
German waiters are so rude they put YOU in the oven.
Muttons1337
Depends on the type of food you went for. You can't paint with that broad of a brush.
ButterfaceTaintClown
German hospitality is amazing.
WhyCanINotHaveBeatlesHairMom
That is also the employer's responsibility. I see nothing wrong with tipping, but it should be an extra incentive, not the only one.
AdmiralButtStuff
Unfortunately employers in the US get away with paying their people shit an hour + tips.
applemagpie
Europe does tip, only it's for a job really well done on top of a decent wage.
srhythm
it's the employers job to fire them then. At least when you work you have to do it properly.
AdmiralButtStuff
Nothing wrong with paying people what they're worth. If you're a waiter and you're worth $15/hr kick ass. if you suck you deserve your $7.50
darkdragonempress
Most states the tip wage is far below minimum wage. So low that you almost never get a paycheck because it's taken in taxes. And even if 1
darkdragonempress
Someone is kickass, their income is dependent on not having a slow shift and patrons not being cheap. 2
hearthstoneaccount3
Meanwhile as a European I fucking hate American waiters. They constantly interupt your meal and talk too much. Take my order and leave.
randomhero13
don't forget the fake friendliness and happiness, while talking trash about you when they are not table your table.
soejmud
When the server is just trying to be nie because they need the money... nah, thanks.
filben7
I just want them to bring my food and drink and leave. Thats it, I dont want them back 8 times asking me how everything is. IM EATINGFUCKOFF
AdmiralButtStuff
This I hate it. Unless my drink is empty GTFO.
DrinkingAndKnitting
As a server, I've gotten bitched at for not checking often enough. Sadly we annoy you because some other prick has wanted us to annoy more
Invada
People are assholes
soejmud
This. It's ok with them coming back once (because that was useful once in my life), but other than that, I hope they have other tables.
PatrikLilja
When my drink is 75% full they come and disturb my conversation at every restaurant in the us. Other than that the service is the same.
SamArt53
I agree, service is better in the USA, there doesn't seem to be any incentive to be better or faster at their job.
MerToo
for the kind of pay they make, how much "better" & "faster" do you expect? Tesla better/faster? Airbus better/faster? Bentley better/faster?
PatrikLilja
Never experienced that.
PmMeGifsForSauce
People gain incentive from w/e they want. Ive been to places where they expect you to tip anyway & treat you like shit and places where >>>
PmMeGifsForSauce
I imagine they expect me to tip, and treat me like a king. The tip isn't actually making anyone work harder. Their desire to work is.
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Solkanarmy
as a European, tips are earned, not given by default, US employers need to pay their staff more
evilblackdog
At this point it's so ingrained in our culture that paying them more base wages would only raise prices and we'd still be tipping them.
LiteralNazi
As a realistic American, I know that if they made more, I would pay more in the long run. Therefore, I am fine with the system. Also, in 1/2
LiteralNazi
an attempt to be a decent person, I tip very well because: 1. My standards for service are very low, and 2. To compensate for shitty people.
Superchief86
As an Australian, fuck off with that tip jar!
YourFavoriteFriend
You do realize a good waiter or waitress or bartender at a popular place can make waaaay more with tips than yours do
zeroversion
But they won’t
iwearlittlesocks
More complicated than that.
CaptSchmidtGaming
HA good luck with that. as an american server, i promise you no employer would pay you $20/hr. I would much rather take unstable generosity
Uzernaime
American here, we had a restaurant try paying high hourly with no tips, they went out of business because of server laziness.
Stewker
At least for me, as an American, tips are still earned. If you're rude to me while I'm in your restaurant you aint getting shit.
AsidRayne1245
As someone who busts their ass while serving to give excellent service to everyone. Dont make excuses to not tip when you go out. TO GO FOOD
AnnieBahde
Wait are you saying tip on to go orders? Or get to go orders if you don’t want to tip?
TCTom
I'm a bartender. There is no way I would make as much money on a salary. Good front of house people make big cash.
owenpotato
Huh??? When I went to Italy, gratuities were almost always included in the bill...
Solkanarmy
I was there a couple of weeks ago, actually, and I only found that in tourist trap restaurants, the proper local ones didn't have it at all
g3istbot
Many of the people that I know who've worked as waitstaff said that they preferred tips over an increased salary.
Leithoa
Cause on a good night they can make +$25/hr, much more at high end places or catering jobs
Poltergeist94
Ducked up part is that there’s no rule saying we HAVE to tip
RickterDeathBeard
Well to be fair they aren't guaranteed it's just common curtesy but to servers it's almost law to have to do it.
1Plebian
For every 100 people complaining about tips, there are 300 people who make a bunch of money from it and don't say anything
Leithoa
They say plenty when you try to switch to a flat wage (even if above minimum wage)
ImostlyCommentNotPost
T.I.P.S = To Insure Proper Service. Used to be given at the beginning of the meal.
AmmoniumAcetate
This is very true. However, it is not the case. So if you come here, tip you damn server.
quintusfontane
True enough! When in Rome... I'm free to begrudge every bloody cent of it though :D
SubZeroWithAFever
Don't you guys (EU) have healthcare figured out too? One baby step at a time in the states. Especially with our current emperor.
BigJewishHulk
Every country in the EU has a different healthcare system. I think canada has it figured out.
ByPelorsLight
I was at a restaurant in Germany about 2 weeks ago, when the waiter handed me the bill he said "tip is not included...it will be €10 extra".
DickDastardly404
In the uk the most we will ever do is “one for the barman/ lady”, which you would only really do on a very busy night. Its up to them 1/2
DickDastardly404
Whether they’d like to pocket the money or actually have another drink. It’s basically a way to get around employers who make them 1.5/2
DickDastardly404
Pool tips or w/e. So either they run it through the till so they can have a drink or they pocket it, but its not an official gratuity. 2/2
gorramgomer
As an American, we stopped giving a fuck what Europe thinks about 230 years ago.
Withywindle508
As an American server, I'd rather take the tip system than the higher pay. If they paid us min wage and we didn't take tips, I'd lose 10k.
Orangecasperuk
But what is the minimum wage in the USA? In the UK it's £7.50, approx $10.
Withywindle508
It's about $7.25. I'll put it like this. After five years of being a server, two cars, a house morgage, and kids are perfectly commonplace.
ChefMIKErowave
they're not given by default either, most people (ones that I've seen atleast) tip if the work is good, not just out of kindness.
Ranier
Good luck convincing them of that. They cant even be convinced to curtail their weapon sales when hundreds of people are killed every month.
Purplefrsh
As a server, please keep the ridiculous tipping system. I've got bills.
masta24
As a European, stop being so nasty and cheap.
MerkNowitzki41
I stopped reading at European
csullivan
It's far more complicated. Owners won't be covering an increased wage- they pass it to the consumer. Do you really feel better if your 1/2
csullivan
meal costs $50 than if the same meal costs $40 and you can tip what you want (hopefully $10+ if the service was good)??
bldl
Dont come to the US, please.
TacticalSpoon
Places have tried the no tip thing, nobody seems to like it. Servers end up making less money and adjusted food prices scare diners away.
jpumper218
In Minnesota servers make minimum wage at 9.50 plus there is no law requiring them to tip kitchen staff or bartenders.
PaulDonaldson
Restaurants have extremely low profit margins as it is on the U.S. it's about 2-4% most of the time.
Leithoa
Maybe for waffle house, but not every restaurant.
Thor561
Most of the servers I know would rather stick with tipped wages. They feel without tips servers wouldn’t give a shit about good service.
delab
As neither an American nor European I think the service and attitude of waitstaff is a million times better in the US!
serpentinebaboo
I spent 8 months all over Europe. I missed the tipping system. The service was subpar and unfriendly at times. No incentive to improve.
necco00
I own a restaurant in US. Some restaurants have tried to remove tipping, guests don’t like it. They want to feel incontrol of their service
swampyfrompompey
You don't have to remove tipping, but add that to a decent wage rather than use tips to top up to a decent wage...
serpentinebaboo
Increase waiter wage -> increase food costs -> drives away customers -> waiter earns less from less tipping. But I get the sentiment.
swampyfrompompey
Seems to work nearly everywhere else other than the USA
serpentinebaboo
I'd argue USA has the best & friendliest service bc of tipping incentive. Been to 18 countries. European service was unfriendly & uncaring.
serpentinebaboo
Our waiters can make far more than waiters overseas. Places that try this get complaints from the wait staff of making less money.
1Plebian
We have a metric for that called minimum wage
swampyfrompompey
So do we, and then we add tips to it...
1Plebian
People tip way more in America though.
1Plebian
Bartenders can make $100 an hour on the weekends in urban areas.
fourkingbaker
Everyone feels that way until they realize that the employers need to charge more to pay their employees more.
Solkanarmy
they could charge up to 20% more if tipping became optional, in fairness, judging by that bill
1Plebian
Pretty sure that full 20 wont go to employees, and that the fatter prices will psychologically deter consumers. Also degredation of service
1Plebian
From less leverage towards the servers
NaughtButOne
Employers are required to pay the difference between their wage and the federal minimum wage if tips don't make the difference.
ITalkAboutGoats
Right. Good luck getting that more than once
reyla
Be proactive about it then and keep track of your own earnings so you can get what you should.
ITalkAboutGoats
No, I mean this is how that goes down: "Oh? You got less tips? Must be because you're bad at your job. Fired."
Leithoa
Well its either that or tax fraud. Barring no patrons obviously.
Leithoa
*over the course of a pay period. One bad shift doesn't count.
johnson21
In every state?
Katalliaan
It's a federal law. Good luck staying employed if you do have to make use of it though.
Leithoa
Yes, some states have higher minimum wages that must be met instead.
lmsj
Yes, but it’s less then $4 an hour.
BearToof
Last I checked, min wage was like, $7.5 or something. They might only get $4 due to the tips earned during that pay period
lmsj
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tipped_wage_in_the_United_States
Leithoa
If tips+tipped wage < federal minimum wage over a pay period, they must cover the money to reach federal minimum wage.
CrazyGuyOnABike
A Pew forum poll recently showed that eighty-some percent of republicans think additional regulations on business are harmful, so good luck.
hobbitbandit
Mess with business, forced minimum wage raise , replaced with machines taking orders. Thanks democrats. I'm out of a job.
EdwardStarsmith
Removing tipping would reduce regulations on business.
evilblackdog
Because there's currently a regulation requiring tipping?
EdwardStarsmith
It varies from state to state, but in most places if tips don't bring wages up to min. wage the business must make up the difference.
LuciusNeedful
Republicans opine against regulation. Wow, what a convincing revelation, and factually relevant.
gengumby
It's not additional regulations, it's adjusting existing regulation
IncrediblySTIFF
Sounds like new rules to me
Tunisia
This would actually be the removal of an extra law, the simplification of regulation.
johnson21
Paying minimum wage is additional regulations?
LaronX
Lies, everyone know republicans don't think. They quote others.
Uglysteve
Why do we need regulation to pay people more. Just start a business and do it. The good ones will flock to you. Trend ensues.
Smajdalf
HA! You realise that business is kept alive by their customers and not their employees, right?
Uglysteve
Are you daft? That’s the stupidest thing I read the last hour. Just like well paid teachers make good schools, happy employees do the same.
Smajdalf
I assume that you know that in (casual) restaurant business people are way more concerned about price than quality of service. Prick.
Tunisia
Spoken like someone who has never met a human.
CardboardStomach
That's not how any of this works. Unless you make a business that can hire millions of people, you really won't impact others in any way.
Uglysteve
That’s not how this works. Your business will grow and you will take market share. Others will emulate you and a trend ensues.
CardboardStomach
Yes, a single restaurant already operating on lower profit margins will somehow overtake every chain in the United States. /s
RelevantNameIsRelevant
Exactly. Me and my family went to a Denny's for breakfast while on holiday in America and the service was terrible. 1/2
RelevantNameIsRelevant
Needless to say we didn't leave a tip and the glares we received from the staff were like they picturing killing us in their minds. 2/2
serpentinebaboo
Hence the stigma about foreigners tipping. Even when service is terrible, we still tip, just less. There are too many other factors.
RelevantNameIsRelevant
We only tip when we think the staff deserve it. I'd their service is terrible they don't deserve it. Maybe employers should pay their staff
serpentinebaboo
That's not how things work in the US. And you get bad service bc wait staff know Europeans give crappy tips. Plus it's not always the ...
PyllyNalleMissionaries
As a fellow european, i have heard that US employers dont pay waiters
Denchfeng
They get paid. It is just usually min wage with is $7.25/hr.
Denchfeng
which*
tonypotsandpans
Not it isn’t. It’s less than minimum wage, usually around 2.50 to 3.00. I’ve been a server for years.
1Plebian
They have to make up any earnings that fall short of minimum wage. So yes, they do. Also you can make WAY more money with tips
iwearlittlesocks
Depends on the state. Nevada pays 8.25 an hour. Not that you actually see more than half that on your paycheck.
chloramphenicolderivative
Waiters typically make more from tips, so switching to salaried wages would be a drop in income.
PieEaterer
It's not an either or, you can have both. Here in Europe waiters are paid minimum wage and still earn tips.
1Plebian
Everyone is america makes minimum wage,
Solkanarmy
it'd only be a drop in income for the waiters who don't do their jobs well, in fairness, the good ones would still be able to earn tips
YourFavoriteFriend
Not if everyone stops tipping because their bill goes up to acco.date the wage increase
swampyfrompompey
'US employers need to pay their staff more'
1Plebian
Easy to say. Several things go wrong along the way.
Leithoa
No restaurant will pay servers the $20-40/hr tips bring in on a busy shift.
swampyfrompompey
Customers are obviously prepared to pay that though ?
swampyfrompompey
In fact it seems they are expected to...
CitizenPrime
But it's guaranteed income, which then goes into your pension
Leithoa
Bad money management isn't anyone's fault but the spenders
Dofishhavedreams
when your salary is lower then your non-guaranteed tip income you're being fucked by the employer
evilblackdog
Here's how it works johny. People voluntarily work for other people. Waitresses know the pay structure before they accept a job and should..
evilblackdog
account for it when weighing their options. It's in an employers best interest to get the best workers at the lowest prices. It's in an...
evilblackdog
employees best interest to negotiate the best pay possible.
1Plebian
Nope,
Withywindle508
Nah bro. As a server making tips, it's good money. More than I could make at a reasonable salary.
Leithoa
At worst they're making full minimum wage per pay period. At best they're getting +$20/hr
SuburbanCommando
Out of curiosity, how much do servers make where you live? What type of jobs is it comparable to?
Solkanarmy
it's generally minimum wage, but they do get tips too, it's just not essentially compulsory over here
dave481
Around here servers make around 4.00 a hour plus tips. It's below min wage. When we had our restaurant our girls would make 200-300 a night.
Pegussu
I remember reading an article about one area that did enforce that, but waiters complained because they make more with tips.
EarthDragon2189
Well screw waiters and screw tipping. It shouldn't be our job to pay their salaries.
Beelsebooob
Yeh - but waiters aren't the be-all and end-all of this discussion. Waiters certainly do do better under the US's tipping system, but... 1/
Beelsebooob
It's been shown that it doesn't really matter in the US how you serve someone, you'll always average 18% tips at the end of the night, so 2/
Beelsebooob
the way you increase your earnings is not by increasing the quality of your service, it's by trying to grab more tables. That leads to 3/
Beelsebooob
waiters trying to undercut each other, in order to paint the other as struggling, and steal some of their tables from them. Secondly, 4/
ellert0
Then either their base pay is still not high enough, or the customer is being deceived, both options being malicious.
1Plebian
What magical fairy land do you live in where owners don't take the lionshare cut of profit?
1Plebian
Your job is worth what somone else is willing to be paid for to have it.
kennethtoilethole
Can confirm. At the right place you can make $20+/hr. Also requires you actually try to do a good job with your tables.
kennethtoilethole
I’ve traveled a lot & service standards are just different in US. Countries who pay more = mediocre service. Not bad, just nothing special.
JHawke
But the exact same goes if you get normal pay + tips..
1Plebian
That sounds like a fat amount of money that has to come from somewhere. You make more with tips,
kennethtoilethole
Huh? I wouldn’t expect tips if I was making min wage, and the customers wouldn’t want to give more anyway
JHawke
If that were true then with cheaper prices + tips (that they don't give) would be less.
Booblyflow
Wouldnt cost of food go up?? In the end the consumer is paying the same amount
JHawke
Yes, but they would be. 1: honest prices. 2: everyone pays honest price (+sometimes tip) no skimping. 3: taxes.
Perchuuu
Sadly, most of us Americans don't understand that you EARN your tips and they are not guaranteed. So they complain about it 1/2
dobbythehouseelf
Many people won't tip if someone didn't do a "good enough job." Did they bring you your food? Great, then give them at least something 1/2
dobbythehouseelf
because they did their job. If they did well, THEN give 20%. If you put $0 as a tip you are a self righteous asshole. 2/2
Thenameideserved
If that is all you did while being an asshole, why should I tip?
serpentinebaboo
Because there's more to service than just the waiter. Kitchens backed up. They have 8 tables. They bus too. They may not be at fault.
ZeroLogain
Because they're being taxed on the assumption that you tipped 15% and so lose money serving you otherwise? From Quebec.
Thenameideserved
Jesus, do you tax in income that isn't there?
Perchuuu
on social media, instead of demanding higher wages from companies. Most expect tips for shitty service as well as good service. 2/2
Etownhustla
Yeah work your ass off for minimum wage with no guaranteed paid leave or healthcare and screw you if you give bad service as a byproduct.
BerryTreat
Race and attractiveness correlate better with high tips than quality of service. Shouldn’t be a popularity contest to get to minimum wage.
1Plebian
You always get minimum wage,
MoneyIsTheOnlyGod
Many people are shit
ChickenROAR
Shit when did that change? I still use Dick's (3rd Rock) tipping system.
kennethtoilethole
Ive waitressed on the side for years & 100% agree w you. Im good at my job & a hard worker, so I make bank. It’s the lazy ones who complain.
makesense
So you wouldn't complain at all if someone left you no tip for your great service?
kennethtoilethole
I absolutely would. This post states you earn your tips, and I do. Its just usually the laziest of my coworkers who complain w/o earning it
Sapherno11
Speaking AS someone who makes a living off tips, the biggest issue is you COUNT and relay on tips because you are paid under minimum wage.
Perchuuu
I understand that you count on tips. I use to work at a restaurant, in the kitchen, and I would consistently see servers back there 1/?
Perchuuu
bullshiting on their phones, or bullshiting in general, while "expo" was trying to get people to run trays to tables. The very same 2/?
essiecae
I was a server for 5 years alot of people don't or can't afford to tip regardless of service. And companies get around the minimum wage (1/2
essiecae
By having you claim 20% on total sales not by the tips you accumulated.
Sapherno11
Yes, bad service should not be rewarded WITH tips, but at the same time, there are a LOT of people who flat out just don't tip Period
EsportsLawyer
they are mostly people with lower average credit scores
Sapherno11
and THAT really cutes into your funds. So when I provide good to excellent customer service, I DO expect a tip, and when I don't get one...
Perchuuu
I would very much like to know where you work? city/state/place of employment?
iScreenshotGifsAndUseThemToComment
because they are black.
Gfreak
You're paid under minimum wage, unless you DON'T make it up in tips. employers have to pay you atleast minimum if you don't.
B3N15
That's not entirely true, it varies from state to state.
reyla
Why don't more people understand this? They still get AT LEAST minimum wage even if they suck and don't get tips.
Sapherno11
I and a friend who works same shift complain about it. Because like I said, we make under minimum wage. We kinda NEED those tips
reyla
You don't make under minimum wage. If you fail to make at least minum wage with your tips factored they have to make it up on your check.
Perchuuu
Perform great service and 9/10 you'll be tipped.