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When companies try to get young people hired with the promise of 'tuition assistance,' here's what they don't tell you.
When you wait tables or tend bar at Red Lobster, “The best benefits await you,” says the chain’s list of benefits
It includes this…
Student Loans
Employees and their families can access low-interest educational loans. Pay for tuition, room and board or supplies at accredited colleges, private K-12 schools and approved technical schools.
…which is a smart business move, since student loan debt in the United States has now surpassed credit card debt with its 1.1 trillion dollar price tag. The number of college students borrowing money for college has continued to rise, and so has the amount of money borrowed, as tuition costs skyrocket.
Michael Cohen, a lawyer who specializes in employment law at the firm Duane Morris in Philadelphia
Companies that are “figuring out how to attract the best and brightest” are moving toward student loan assistance as an added benefit.
“In light of the unpredictability of health care costs, and benefits associated with health care becoming more and more expensive, organizations are providing and advertising the possibility of tuition assistance and tuition reimbursement,” Cohen said. “It’s a great way to attract good people.”
But just how good is the Red Lobster student loan program?
It’s hard to tell, because the seafood restaurant refuses to answer emails and phone calls on the topic. That seems counter-intuitive, since the purpose of benefits packages is to market them to prospective employees so they work for you instead of your competition.
But once you delve deeply in the Red Lobster student loan program, you learn why the company hasn’t commented. It’s fishy.
Debt.com sent a writer to apply as a Red Lobster waitress. In five months on the job, she learned more about the company’s benefits for pets than college students. The reason? The Red Lobster “student loan program” isn’t really a loan program at all.
Here’s Jess Miller’s report…
"On September 4, I applied for a job as a waitress at the biggest Red Lobster in South Florida. On September 15, my general manager offered me the job."
And though he covered how much jewelry I was allowed to wear, how to do my hair, and the uniform requirements, he didn’t cover any of the benefits of the job. Instead, he gave me a handbook and told me to read through it.
So I did, and in the whole book, the only mention made of student loans was sandwiched between a mention of pet insurance and discounts on fitness. I started gathering information from other places.
The employees I talked to never heard of it.
Two of the managers I asked about it gave me vague instructions to go online to the My Total Rewards department, where employees can sign up for other benefits like medical and dental coverage.
I found a link called “Apply for a student loan” — but when I clicked on it for more information, I got an error that said “You’re not authorized to access this component. (40,20).” I called HR, and they directed me to the My Total Rewards department, which gives out information on other benefits Red Lobster offers its employees, like dental and medical coverage.
After three hours across three days of talking to Total Rewards, I made a little progress. There was another student loan section on the intranet they gave me a direct link to — alongside something about pet insurance and emotional and legal counseling.
The page told me about who was eligible (even my grandmother!), some very vague “flexible repayment options,” and the maximum amount I could borrow: $100,000. There was nothing about the terms or interest rate of the loan.
Instead, it pointed me to another site — a Wells Fargo page
with links to an “Employee Mortgage Program,” “Home Equity Loans,” and “Education Financial Services.” There was no mention of Red Lobster, so I called Wells Fargo and asked.
The Red Lobster Student Loan Program That Is Actually A Wells Fargo Loan
Contrary to everything their website and promotional material states, Red Lobster doesn’t have a student loan program. “Assisting with student loans” is actually just code for “Wells Fargo Collegiate Loan.”
Two different Wells Fargo reps told me I could sign up for a loan and make no payments while in school, enjoy a six-month grace period, and choose from a variable or fixed interest rate. But when I asked about special deals for Red Lobster employees?
“We don’t have any specific loans for Red Lobster.”
False advertising?
Just to make sure I didn’t miss something, I called Red Lobster Human Resources, My Total Rewards, and Red Lobster Corporate Headquarters several more times, on different days.
They all told me the same thing — go online and apply, but didn’t specify where or how — until finally a Red Lobster HR rep transferred me directly to Wells Fargo after I’d asked to sign up for the loan.
I asked Bruce Elliot, manager of compensation and benefits at the Society for Human Resource Management, if Red Lobster had purposefully misconstrued their benefits package.
“Companies are always trying to put the best face on their rewards packages,” Elliot said. “But we don’t see a lot of what you experienced at Red Lobster. More often than not, organizations will describe their benefit packages in a fairly honest and straightforward basis to their employees, because they recognize that there’s a lot of liability.”
Though Elliot said he makes it a practice of not criticizing other companies’ practices, because “there could be something going on that I’m not aware of,” he did say that it was misleading to list the loan as a benefit, unless Red Lobster had negotiated lower interest rates or lower fees on the loan.
I told them they hadn’t.
“That’s an unfortunate practice,” he said. “It’s setting up an expectation among candidates and employees that there’s a benefit there, when in fact it’s really more of a referral.”
Sauce: http://www.debt.com/news/2015/secret-red-lobster-program
CPatricoo
Thats it! Im going to never eat at Red Lobster ever again! I mean I never have before but now Im really not going for sure!
wenko
TIL: Red Lobster is still in business...
ToxicPineapple
The good thing about a Wells Fargo student loan is that you can create nicknames for them online. Mine is named "Satan's Butt."
bassguitarhero
it's almost like giant corporations are huge predatory pieces of shit
bluegargoyle
"Student loans for employees" = "we'll refer you to the first private company you would have seen if you just googled 'student loans'."
Link007
The only company that actually legitimately does this is surpisingly Starbucks
MrBronsonTwist
Why do I never see comments with the eagle and "Murica" "freedom" on these posts
queenofjungle
And they would've gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!! :P
DarthFutuza
Actually they're still getting away with it and probably won't face any legal repercussions, it's apparently fine to lie about this stuff.
zoedaddy305
I worked at Red lobster in 2001.top three worst job ever
Tarelgeth
BestBuy, conversely, does actually have tuition assistance. I get a flat dollar value off each tuition bill.
MuppetHandDance
There are no amount of biscuits that can make this ok!
ashstachecashstache
Especially now that I've found them in the grocery store!
thehonkypatrol
As a former employee of 2.5 years I can confirm I never heard about the loan program while working there THROUGH COLLEGE, IN A COLLEGE TOWN
icantthinkofanamenow
Oké I have an idea let's sue them together to pay our loan debts !
IAmSoOldItHurts
Wells Fargo should only be used as a lender of last resort. File your FAFSA early, get subsidized student loans.
lostone1610
Except if your parents make too much money to qualify for subsidized and don't take into account that you're paying for college yourself
IAmSoOldItHurts
Good, you can start out your professional career with a mountain of debt, like the rest of us. Besides, there are things you can do.
IRaiseYouALatte
As a former Olive Garden employee a.k.a Darden Slave, I had seen this in their booklet but never investigated. Another reason to hate them
wookiedriller
From what I see here, Jess is a better investigative reporter than any from the big 4 news outlets.
AlcoholicsAnonymousBYO
Plot twist: she's a news intern and got paid nothing - just like at the big four.
alaskaisachillplace
Wells Fargo loan huh? Well fuck that with an elephant trunk in all the holes
cockmasterj
Sue them and pay for college with the settlement
plantbiologist
I used to work at Red Lobster. I never heard of any mention of student loans....
Bryanalt77
And to think I once pleasures myself in a red lobster men's room color me disgusted
kizzoo5
I laughed way too hard at this.
tibicendiscordia
idk about tuition assisstance, but when I worked for Olive Garden I paid for an insurance policy that I was told by a doctor's office didn't
tibicendiscordia
exist. I bugged my managers about what was going on, and then one day they just fired me. Olive Garden is owned by the same company as RL.
fartingpinetree
That sounds like a lawsuit
needsfoodbadly
Red Lobster is dying financially so theidea that they or sister business Olive Garden have good benefits should be suspect already.
GamerKitsune
I worked at OG for 7 years, they are going downhill as well, just not as obvious unless you work there. Sucks for everyone employed :(
RKOOuttaUserSub
A report instead of a repost. Good on you, OP. Also, fuck those guys. Fuck 'em.
OlegDrozdowski
Red Lobster sucks with benefits, but their biscuits are still awesome.
JKimp
You can buy the mix at Costco! Then get nuts by adding bacon, tarragon, etc. They are legit right outta the box though!
bandicootsnoochieboochies
How long until this becomes an article on Buzzfeed?
SirSage
You won't believe what happens next!
stillchucktesta
screen shot of red lobster's benefits page http://imgur.com/QZdSZfS
PeteTusk
I see. Employees can apply for student loans! Sweet, the employer doesn't ban employees from applying for student loans at Wells Fargo!
stillchucktesta
Clever!
stillchucktesta
I wonder how much they payed someone to word that just perfectly to sound like they pay for it but doesn't imply that they will.
bruceanderson5
I haven't eaten there in years. TIL to contuine this trend.
AStainlessSteelRat
I quit going when I realized you couldn't smell them cooking stuff anymore. Just how long HAVE they been microwaving everything?
TheMythicalJackalope
Mine were red robin. Damn dirty bird
kchevance
Oh, please share.
TheMythicalJackalope
super slow service, server ignoring us, server asking for a perfect survey, messed up order.... and that was just one visit
ajourneyinthedark
The two worst dining experiences of my life were both at Red Lobster. You couldn't pay me to eat there
YouCantKeepJetpackingAwayFromYourProblemsBrian
Olive Garden. I puked after eating their bread sticks. I don't even know how that's possible. I mean, I fucking love bread.
Muffyns
i like eating there :c maybe better service in canada
ajourneyinthedark
I live in Canada :/
Muffyns
then idk i liked the food :c and service was good my worst restaurant experience was at swiss chalet with 2 hour late food that was cold
Bisright
Red lobster. Yellow lobster. Red lobster. Yellow lobster.
SirSage
You made my brain automatically fill in w/ leather, so I started trying to say lobster and leather together. It wasn't pretty.
StooooooooooooooooooooooopHammerTime
Wait... did this just say a writer worked at Red Lobster for 5 months to get the info? Maybe I'm confused but that seems extreme.
Bbbrrr000ccckkk1
A lot of writers have second jobs. Sometimes there's competition to get published sometimes a good story takes a while to present itself.
Bbbrrr000ccckkk1
Sometimes writers block happens. And very few writing jobs pay regularly or much.
Bbbrrr000ccckkk1
Not every article you read is like "how to lose a guy in 7 days"
ThisIsNotTheGreatestNameInTheWorldThisIsJustATribute
Have you seen the paychecks for a writer lately?
theanonymousmonkey
That's correct
PiSToLpETE33
I have an interview at my local Red Lobster this upcoming week, might re-think that..
StTriniansHeadBoy
I like that the Pretty Little Liars, from left to right, get progressively less surprised in that gif. Aria doesn't seem surprised at all.
StTriniansHeadBoy
Then again, she *is* A....
lostone1610
But Charles! Even though we have no fucking clue who that is.
gordonofficial
About that, I wonder what the re-cast of Jason was for. I mean, Charles seems to have black hair. But then again, so many theories..
StTriniansHeadBoy
Yeah, but until this last half-season, the evidence has been overwhelming. And we've got at least 2 more series to go, so [1/?)
StTriniansHeadBoy
Charles won't be the real real A any more than Mona or Ezra. Charles is Alison's brother, Jason's twin. (2/2)