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https://www.businessinsider.com/worker-applied-to-60-jobs-got-one-interview-labor-shortage-2021-10?amp
Oct 20, 2021 6:06 PM
bonjouretatsunis1776
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https://www.businessinsider.com/worker-applied-to-60-jobs-got-one-interview-labor-shortage-2021-10?amp
zaandari11
years ago, I applied to every job within about 40 miles; 100 jobs, only got one interview and was fired a week later cuz overstaffed.
DIINKELBERG
My thoery is that they say that nobody wants to work until they work for dry peanuts
SkyVINS
between end of 2007 and middle of 2009 i applied to approx 3000 jobs, got 10 interviews, got 1 job.
PinkSodaMix
In my experience, this is due to the resume not being updated to get past the initial algorithm.
itsthevoiceman
I've responded to well over 50 apartment ads in 2 weeks, and got 2 human responses. 1 wanted a lease and money right away, other ghosted me.
Becker37
I've been putting in applications to places like Walmart, Wendy's, and other local businesses and haven't gotten anything. Tired of working
Becker37
In healthcare and wanted something different yet no one will give me a chance ?
duchessofawesome
Walmart store managers used to get bonuses for understaffing.
jimmyKittenBeast
dunno about Walmart but Sam's Club managers absolutely still do. dept managers do too
randelung
Oh yeah, we got a new boss in September and the dude interviewing today told me he had sent his CV back in July. He's about to be hired. Old
randelung
boss told us there's nobody suitable.
dcjunkee
Does this even address the algorithms that LinkedIn uses to weed out resumes before they even get to the HR department?
vash77
Indeed does this too, if you take key words out of the application and put them in your resume you can jump to the front of the line
Ludus
I've thought about doing this before, because of how much nonsense it is. Glad someone did it
mandra437
Shoot, more data spread out among many states would prove to improve this study exponentially. I'm getting some stuff set up to doc a go too
BlandSnow
50k dead Floridians from covid...did all their jobs get filled alrdy?
KellyCrazyCatLadyinTraining
I’m guessing half of those were probably retired, geriatric, or possibly on disability (not working). The FL population is the oldest
ptrezza
I'm hiring painters in the NYC area, no decent applicants whatsoever. Free ads, pay ads, etc. Good pay, nice job! Anyone interested?
Ghost0fDawn
The irony here is you still don't list the pay
ptrezza
Sorry, Entry level $20/hr, experienced $30-40+/hr retirement plan, etc.
bodyinthebackseat
I applied to dozens DAILY since June… had 4 interviews total. Got my first (and only) offer mid October
oldmanfromscenetwentyfour
I work at a cafe that opened January of this year. We haven't been fully staffed once yet.
Ghost0fDawn
Something tells my you have been as 'fully' staffed as you are ever going to be
wtfylat
Yeah, wait until they start cutting back.
oldmanfromscenetwentyfour
Yep. Two people put in their notice last week. No replacements yet ??
sevenfingerman
It’s good to see that this story has moved from Reddit to actual news sites.
zynthesis
500+ applications in 2020 with two interviews
Imallupinthebenz
Found out that my alcoholic former boss had a little over 60 messages on her phone. Half of them were different people asking for a job
Imallupinthebenz
All of them were never replied too and had been on the phone for months
RDX2273
The term "entry-level" gets tossed around an awful lot by companies looking for someone with 2-5 years of experience for entry-level pay
Eville00
My friend has a decade of experience in manufacturing and everywhere he has applied is only offering entry level positions to him even
Eville00
Though he's applying for supervisor/team lead openings.
triggrhaapi
Ok so how come when I did something similar (not to entry level jobs but still) I don't get an article?
Ghost0fDawn
Have you tried less Avocado toast with your applications?
triggrhaapi
At this point I'm afraid of avocados. I already own a home, is it going to disappear if I eat one in the presence of bread?
Ghost0fDawn
He said Avocado! We got him boys! Get the cuffs! Search the whole place if necessary.
pancreas
you probably didn't track the data and publish the results
triggrhaapi
Shit that was my mistake.
DarthFutuza
I like how immediately after that is a link to another article, "Businesses across the US say they are struggling to find employees"
Mikadomea
Ill tell you a secret. Business everywhers struggle to find ppl because they wont pay shit.
GhostBoodakaGB
Part of the article, not a link.
MikeReese9
Now hiring, still not paying enough
springuy8
Shouldn't be legal to post "up to" signs to get applicants then offer way less for said job. Aka salary posted is a lie.
modus0
Any business offering something "up to" any value isn't going to give you that amount.
OddOod
wait, yall are getting expected salaries on your job postings
StrangerRangerDanger
yeah, whenever there is a pay range it's always the lowest they can offer despite years of experience.
doyouevenrobot
I always make my initial salary request absurd right off the bat.
theomni
Actually a lot of the stuff they do is not legal. But what are you going to do, call the cops on them? Theft is fine in that direction
SwiftyGuy
Report them to the labor board, I guess?
MathiasTolerain
Mine wasn’t much better. Took 50 applications to get 2 interviews and 1 offer back in 2014.
fraxinusoleaceae
Got lucky this year. 20 apps: 5 interviews: 1 job. Sadly it was the one job that required moving overseas, but it was also the best of them.
DarkwingDuc
That's not too surprising in a normal job market. But when every company is complaining they can't find workers, it's a little more telling.
NeverExclamationPoint
I've done about 30 since the beginning of Sept. Heard back from one place, the interview was terrible on their end.
yellowtoolboxblackbag
https://media3.giphy.com/media/lp7F4VrYv5vG1veCAs/giphy.gif
TongueTiedLabourerfromtheLandoftheLittlePeople
If it's a imgur gif it shows even without the mouseover.
TongueTiedLabourerfromtheLandoftheLittlePeople
agamemnon8l
Floridian here: they don't give a fuuuuuuuuuck. This is just a shake up. They are holding for overqualified applicants
komododave
Or online job application systems are shit for workers AND employers.
CaptainHowdyonmeds
I have had employers throw my resume in the trash and say I need to submit it online
GondwanaCraton
LOL. I've escorted a walk-in who didn't even know what the name of the business was in to HR. I was only surprised when they spoke ~30 mins.
Lowslefthand
We do that, it's the first filtering process for us. Can you follow instructions and can you do the absolute minimum PC use
CaptainHowdyonmeds
You don't need PC skills to load a truck or use a drill. And the same company complains they can't find people. Yet they have no basic 1/2
CaptainHowdyonmeds
Understanding of the algorithm used to sort applicants within 3rd party companies such as indeed.
pancreas
most companies websites require more than minimum PC use. maybe if it was actually functional, people wouldn't use paper resumes.
Ghost0fDawn
"We want to show that we will waste this potential employees time with meaningless bullshit semantics after they already went through the1/2
Ghost0fDawn
effort to give us what we need" Yeah fuck you dude. 2/2
Lowslefthand
Sounds like this is a successful filter, I doubt we would want to work together. ?
sykotic1189
8+ years in automotive repair, multiple certs, applied to 10 shops with help wanted postings. I got 2 interviews and the first I was denied
rawniew
Alot of times when businesses do this they aren't trying to find the most qualified employee, they want the most desperate person with skill
sykotic1189
I was out of work and have a wife and kid to take care of, I was pretty desperate
sykotic1189
saying they hired someone else, but the listing was still up on their site a week later. Got the 2nd job luckily
doyouevenrobot
Sometimes they've already got someone in mind and the posting is there as a formality. I had to remind HR at the place I'm at now to (1)
doyouevenrobot
take down the listing they had me fill out an application for online, that was posted specifically for my original inquiry the day before.
circlebreaker
Same happened to me years ago, and I took someone's advice to 'call back the manager and check'. She got annoyed when I asked her about 1/
GondwanaCraton
Did she ever say what had happened?
circlebreaker
She said that they hadn't hired anyone from the interview, which was surprising to me because one guy had 20 yrs. experience under his belt.
circlebreaker
what had happened to make her pass on the one guy who was more than qualified in the group interview (round table of 12 applicants). 2/2
sykotic1189
The manager who made the choice worked overnight, when calls couldn't go through. Literally talked to him once about going to the interview
Zetor
My suspicion that many employers are just happy to overwork their limited workforce and saving on salary costs.
hatforlife20
Can confirm
tenaciousOther
I've come to that same conclusion
randomusernamenumber2
Jacksk3lton7
It allows them to get more PPP money without actually hiring more people
KaJuN
Bingo! I worked at a gas station and they fired a guy. 3+ months went by and we were all burnt out because he was never replaced. I quit.
pdFarmD
If you read his research it says he got 10 emails but they all lie about their starting salary and hours, starting @ 20hr/week for 6months
BernieMittens
That savings goes straight to them
Shoutrr
or it's a response to the claims of the work force that want humane condition and living wage: they voluntarily don't hire and are waiting
Shoutrr
for the fair wage movement to subside (due to actual money needs) so they can say fuck you to any applicant that want a higher wage and hire
Shoutrr
the growing mass of desperate people at pre-pandemic level of slavery.
antleroid
suspicion? that's pretty much guaranteed. they've learned they can boost profits and cut overhead and now they have their excuse to do so.
bigger66
no, they just are too picky in their expectations for entry level work
Vishnuisgod
if and when they pay OT, its still only 1.5 wages not 2.0 wages.....TMYK
FakePlasticTreehugger
My design firm has been riding the overstaffing high for like 8 months now. They gave everyone $600 bonuses instead of hiring more staff.
ThanosWasNotWrong
Or they have shitty algorithms systems that weed out candidates who dont have certain buzzwords in their resumes and cover letters
ArchMagos
That's why I pepper my resume with key words in white font
olivertheoctopus
We’re really struggling to fill positions. Ppl will apply and won’t even respond to a call back. & that’s offering > $15/hr + signing bonus
IDontWatchDoctorWho
I can’t believe people take extra work for the same money lol
viveleroi
My local store claims they’re hiring, ghosted my son, and makes us bag our own groceries. Lines are insane waiting for people to finish
TheDino
My USPS office hasn't hired anyone in over a year, is working everyone 6 days, so the highest paid people get paid more and the lowest 1/2
TheDino
paid people actually get paid less right now for working more. Fuck whoever is responsible for that. 2/2
BernieMittens
Dejoy it's in the name
GondwanaCraton
Kindly explain how it works that the highest paid are making more while the lowest paid are making less when both are working extra hours.
TheDino
There is an evaluation pay system based off of volume/mailboxes/stops/mileage. If you are good, you get done early, and the full time 1/2
TheDino
36 hours worth 55 hours, but then be forced to help a person and get 5 extra hours, and then I only get paid the 41 hours.
TheDino
carriers do not lose that evaluation for any reason, but part time carriers lose it if we go 1 minute into overtime. So I can work 2/3
SuicidalBallsack
this guy?
TimTheEnchanter01
Jellybean?
XanCrews
Fuckin’ Reaganomic repercussions. Fuck ‘im.
BasicBytch
That might be true for some hard asses out there, but my org is a nonprofit and it really has been harder to hire.
HideYoKittiesHideYoPuppies
Hiring for entry level jobs?
Taxicat
Speaking from recent experience, a lot of non-profits have horribly toxic management cultures, so you might want to check your reviews >
Taxicat
>on Glassdoor and such. Word gets around fast, and no one wants to work for a toxic manager.
jimmyKittenBeast
regardless of company type, if it's that hard to hire rn, you lookin in the wrong places, asking for the wrong things, or expecting too much
bigger66
not true at all, especially for the non-profit world (i'm in that world too). there are more positions than workers now
jimmyKittenBeast
ok show me your best example of an open position that has zero qualified applicants
doyouevenrobot
Give us an example of a post you're hiring for. Some joker said they were paying 40k/yr for a safety compliance officer earlier.
Taxicat
And a lot of those non-profits have horribly toxic managers that keep chasing your best workers out of the industry entirely.
bigger66
not any more than the for profit world
UnattendedDeviant
He stated "some required a HS diploma". If he didn't have one he goes to bottom of many lists.
BernieMittens
He does and has a degree and is currently employed.
rawniew
I have never had a job check for hs. You could definitely lie about it not saying its right
UnattendedDeviant
Oh, you definitely can. The further away you get from HS age the least it matters. I have had a gov job where a security check was done...
UnattendedDeviant
, you dare not lie there no matter how far away from HS age. Neither here nor there though.
BoneyBaby
BuT EnTrY LeVeL iS FoR HIghScHOoolErS!!!!!
historycat
He applied only for jobs where he met all the qualifications. Read the article
UnattendedDeviant
I did read article, hency my comment. Now ead my comment. He still would be ranked below thw other applicants with HS diploma.
MrSquiggleTheManFromMars
The article doesnt say that he does not have a hs diploma unless i missed it, the point of it being addwas how low the job requirements were
jwillustrat
Can a GED be obtained for free?
UnattendedDeviant
The t3st itself usually requires a small fee, 40 bucs or so. And there are organizations offering fee classes of study to prep.
laurenfirefairy
That would be about 40 bucks per subject. 4-5 subjects depending on where you live.
laurenfirefairy
No.
asslap
The article states he didn't apply to any job he didn't qualify for
UnattendedDeviant
And still, other applicants with atleast a HS degree will rank over him at first glance.
breakingbadlover
Missing the point here^^
MisterTortuga
Agreed, the process is not a singular one. You're compared to other applicants. Also what hours you're able to work is a factor.
historycat
How do they know what hours he can work when they don't ask, and he never gets an interview. Stop imagining what you hope the reason is.
MisterTortuga
Applications for hourly work would include an available hours section. Need to weed out redundant hours before any interview.
OddOod
hours he's able to work are no excuse for the no replies
MisterTortuga
The person doing the hiring is an hourly employee themselves. Doing most of it while doing other work. Not much time to call all applicants.
OddOod
Managers do the hiring. Usually salary non exempt. Stop defending shitty people, they don't deserve it
MisterTortuga
Interviews and hiring get delegated to assistant managers. Just stating facts. Who do you think is making up for all the missed shifts?
plaidballoon
He also stated he didn't apply to any role he didn't qualify for
UnattendedDeviant
Not sure if that changes my point. He'll still rank below the other applicants with HS diploma.
summersunshine420
how exactly would he be ranked for that job if he didn't apply for it and his name isn't on the list? are you trolling?
UnattendedDeviant
Article implies he applied for jobs that required a diploma, also those that required retail experience.
summersunshine420
Article clearly states that he did not apply if he did not meet their required qualifications.
NoChance16
Wait, what's your point then? If there's a labour shortage then there shouldn't be any list. They would respond to all qualified applicants.
UnattendedDeviant
You ran with that one. My point was if he didn't have a HS diploma that puts him behind other applicants who did.
NoChance16
Right, but in that case there would be a consistent other applicants. This would mean there is no labour shortage. Which proves his point.