Dec 20, 2021 6:53 PM
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Anyone else totally not surprised?
YouThinkThatsBad
Reminds me of the “i don’t agree but tolerate it” towards gay people attitude. That doesn’t make me think you’re any less of a prick
MKUltraMega
greenf1sh
Really need to stop bringing up "empathy" and "compassion" in these kinds of discussions. It's something those types will never concede to.
Cats2cats
Did an externship while in school. Told one client love doesn’t leave bruises(like she had). D/c inst came w/shelter number. She called.
daojones75
These people have zero empathy. They’re the exceptions to their own rules because they are indifferent to how their policies effect others.
hardytardigrade
Applies to conservatives in general. As long as they don't need something, no one else should have it. And if they do, it's a special case.
motoalchemist
we all kinda knew this, Republicans in general are exactly like this
gradeD
It's an ideology of extreme selfishness that has more recently taken on authoritarian and fascistic shades. It ain't good.
kheltan
I personally know two separate women in similar situations- problematic pregnancies, had abortions, called them miscarriages, still pro life
The organized right hijacked the higher reasoning functions of their herd and those people are proof.
spitfires2000
aap71
this is exactly the same irrational repressed mentality as a gay-bashing homo sexing a dude then beating him up. right, DAN!?!
Always suspected Dan was trash.
SassySailor
Conservatives are the worst
kerrigan778
I'm not surprised, but then again I'm also not surprised because this has been posted so many times since the first time 15 months ago.
SilverNicktail
Err no not remotely surprised. That's the primary difference between the modern conservative and everyone else - empathy.
They "empathize" with those in power above them. It's a fully authoritarian movement now.
noncommital
and yet these same anti-abortion trolls wont try anal.
Oh, some of them will though. Knew a girl who thought losing her virginity before marriage was wrong. Had tons of buttsex.
heh - you found the assholy grail then ;)
ReverseSyzygy
religion too. rules apply to others, not oneself when inconvenient
fishthethird
Some ppl have this mentality "I've done this myself, so I have the right to advocate others don't because of MY OWN experience doing this...
... and MY OWN regrets in my life for doing it" but they fail to realize everyone is in their own situation and needs the same solution.
imyourrealdad
Empathy is the key word. Religious fundamentalism kills empathy in those indoctrinated.
sarahCommunityPrincess
This is how I feel when unvaxxed show up to me ER asking for antibodies
Cargobiker530
I can't imagine how tempted you must be to refer them to the local Fox News affiliate.
Zahnradfee
"If you had gotten the shot, you could have produced your own antibodies by now. Why do you think other bodies should to the work for you?"
ZargozTheTerrible
Upvote until my fingers bleed..."$ave the babie$!"
hellsgunslinger
Refuse service. It works everywhere else why not here
Onaspaceship
Fundamental Attribution Error
flexstar
Good lord. I'm only half joking.
YIKES
Slytherwin
I hope neither my daughter nor I ever need one. But God forbid if we get raped or something, I want that option.
numonster
Also! Those I know who had/considered one did so out of health/financial concerns & took all precautions to not get preggo in the 1st place.
freckledkink
Yep. I have ms and have a tubal ligation. My 3 children were from condoms, the pill, and an IUD all used properly. I haven't had sex in
Years for fear of getting pregnant (I'm on 17 different medicines). I used condoms and spermicidal lubricant when I did (after my tubal). I
Can't afford another baby financially or physically. I'd actually love to have another one. I live in Mississippi and have made my children
And niece keep up with the abortion stuff. If my niece (her mom isn't really a fan of them, but isn't going to stop anyone from getting one)
Or any of her or my children's friends ever need an abortion, I've told them (my family, I'm not going to tell other people's kids) that any
Being anti-abortion, like anti-vaxx, isn't really a policy position. It's usually a statement of group identity.
Funny....they same to be the same people
ratilda
Zang1983
The group being "ignorant idiots"?
Selfish, paranoid, propagandized morons?
Abortion as a political issue was made such by a concerted effort by regressive and organized right wing forces in the US. It is not 1/
a moral issue, and the fact that it's perceived as such is a testament to the strength of right wing propaganda in America. 2/2
Chakra5
It's all to keep the various strawmen up as outrage generators, in order to drive their minions to the polls. The GOP are fucking evil.
Yes. They flagrantly spread the "gvmt is evil" line, while they are the active participants in making it so. Extremely selfish and twisted.
somtin
Here's the thing. Abortion is only mentioned in the bible once, and describes how to do one. So yeah it's a political move for power.
gotamachinehead
Catholic Church had no opposition to abortion before the baby’s movements could be felt until 1869
LordBaneoftheSith
Very well said. It's why the CRT-style claims of 'wokeness' being a dominant ideology are so troubling. Classic fascist self victimization
Thanks. And, yep! Very grim.
It's so frustrating to have the "opposition" party to this be centrist liberals. I'm genuinely terrified about where this ends up.
Total BS that we have to deal with the climate crisis on top of the fascism. Man, people in the 40s had it easy (/s)
Taxicat
It explicitly started because of racism. Private Christian schools were being threatened by the IRS for refusing to integrate, so they >
>had to come up with some other wedge issue because even their own group just didn’t care enough about segregation anymore.
sandpirate
It seems to me that people like that see the world as black and white, no exceptions. You're either against abortions 100% or you get them
Regularly because you like murdering babies in the name of Satan. They don't seem to understand that there are many gray areas in between.
apollo661
nah, nuance is too hard, lets just point the finger and screech like possums at the most convenient target.
applesforjuice
Yeah I'm "anti abortion" as in I'm not a fan of abortion. I am pro choice and think abortions should be as safe and accessible as possible
Only a sith deals in absolutes.
Lol sounds like a conversation with my coworker. Her: "I just don't think I should have the right to take away someone else's life"... 1/2
.... Meanwhile she told me earlier that year in a different conversation she's had like FOUR abortions...... 2/2
That's so infuriating. The propaganda that gave her this actual doublethink is the real culprit, and I'll be damned if I know what to do 1/
about it. Also, your co-worker is a fucking imbecile. 2/2
EXACTLY and when I called her out on it, she got mad lol
VesuvianPrime
Imagine a world without religion
TheDayTheBrainStoodStill
If religion didn't exist, the people thirsty for power, control and cruelty would have to invent it.
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RumpBuffalo
Nah, just smarter ones.
iDrinkDrano
Okay. They'll just move to fandoms and kill each other over golden cows.
Noughmad
It's easy if you try. But other commenters are right, even attempts to remove it usually just mean it gets replaced with something similar.
Sageypie
It'd be the same shit with different things to hide behind. Problem has never been religion, not really, it's just been corrupt assholes.
BumbleBeeBeardedGingerBear
It started early on as a form of governance, but i also want to believe things would have been better all around.
Religion is just a well of mind control being used by the oligarchy. It's the intellectual Monkeywrench factory. The GOP are the monkeys, 1/
dropping that shit in anything that tries to get a handle on their oligarchic overlords money grubbing destruction of humanity. 2/2
Iatesomecoffeecups
But then we wouldnt have so many fancy buildings
ThePastmaster
If not religion then some other batshit crazy thing would have cropped up. Imagine pseudoscience being the norm and people picking "teams".
OneCraftyHooker
Like the allied atheist alliance? I like it cuz it's all As
I was thinking more of the Nazi dude that rejected Relativity because "Aryan Physics do not need to be tainted by Jewish Physics."
DrunkenMarineBiologist
I shall crush your skull like a clam on my tummy
fractalsphere
Not sure why a clinic wouldn't simply choose not to perform a procedure on someone who clearly thinks it's a bad thing.
They're there to perform medical procedures, not confirm a belief system. There are private medical institutions that will turn people away
For various reasons, but most are for the public and won't turn any away who need the medical intervention they specialize in. I mean, look
At hospitals the past 2 years. They've been overflowing with Covidiots who've said covid is a hoax and and say the vaccination is (random
Conspiracy) with their dying breath. There's literally no telling how many thousands have died because triage dictates these are in more
Serious medical need than those who have heart attacks, cancer, etc, and they can't be turned away just because they're stupid and evil.
eggmuffin
Because they're not awful people...
DarthFutuza
If they provided their consent and agreed to the procedure then they clear think it's a good think, despite their doublethink.
I'm having a stroke halp.
whhy
Much unlike the Church, the clinic is there to help all people. I guarantee there's a Jewish doctor that has had to save a NeoNatsee
bishopolis
Medical staff have a particular privilege in a war-zone, but also particular responsibilities. If only the kids with the boom-sticks knew
... or the border soldiers taking pot-shots at the highly-visible green-smocked doctors and killing them daily.
As if the UN was their bitch not just once but forever.
That's not how it works. Nor should it.
MathieuGaydos
That's not how it works....
Beleg7
Yes, it would be unreasonable.
I can't disagree with providing medical care. But if someone truly believes abortions are bad, and is berating staff, they can choose to not
..to take care of that customer. Why would any customer at any store who is being abusive not get kicked out without service?
You can't start empowering medical people to deny treatment to people based on their personal beliefs. You just can't.
Kennleth
1/ You actually can, the moment they become abusive. Doctors, nurses, and clinic staff are people as well and shouldn’t be abused, the only
"Abusive" isn't the same as "personal beliefs."
2/ real power they have is to withhold services, much like a retailer.
extrasad
My best friend as a child, a pastor's daughter, was vehemently anti-abortion. As an adult she contacted me because she needed a ride to get>
an abortion. I helped her out, but she's still anti-abortion, and no one in her life knows that she had one.
ImAnActionBirb
Time to let it “slip”
Gayforbae
Out anti-aboution abortion-havers, out the Antigay politicians getting their ass railed in the back of the drag bar, out them all.
EpicEggnog
What you do with this information will test- Trust, Loyalty, and your morality
This happened like 10+ years ago, I have no intention of doing anything
You sound like a true friend!
TheDoctorCrankenstein
Sounds like a coward that helps perpetuate the movement to rollback of women's right.
juxtjCandyBaroness
Really time to see the true numbers- there must of been a reason I could not get an appointment the same day I called and had to wait
MorrighanWolf
Out her.
Yet......
Welliguessillgogetpants
Time to out her. The reason this crap continues, is people like you stay silent. Time to put that bitch on blast.
urboyevan2
Yep
erne1
Why the fuck does this comment get upvoted... this is a disgusting thing to say. Fuck you.
JustSomePersonThere
あなたは嫌です
No one is really getting outed chief so relax. And if anyone is shaming others for getting an abortion yet they also did then fuck em out em
Superflash4
Did you misunderstand the comment?
Nalianna
So, you're pro-hypocrite?
DiningKruger
Because the world is tired of virtue signaling hippocritical scum. Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.
Lmao the reason this comment gets upvoted is because of hypocrites like you. Fuck me? Go jump head first into a frozen lake.
FUCK, I totally missed the point and mixed some names up
Maybe put her on blast next time she makes a public post.
nanoman273
Yes
texasfoodman
Won’t help unless (s)(t)he(y) has proof
"Shut up Barb, you know full well you had an abortion you hippocritical see you next Tues.
Bla bla bla I didn’t neener neener bla bla
No. Even though she's a hypocrite, it is something personal. Even women who are pro-abortion would be mortified if they were put on blast
Don't give a shit. It's also personal for the people they try to deny access to the same rights. Hypocrites need to be called out.
Women who are pro abortion aren't the hypocrites. She's taking it from personal to public by ostracizing others. Fuck her.
As opposed to all the women who need help and are put on blast by those "God loving people" the same ones who harass abortion clinics ?
For having had one that no one knew about. Like any other medical procedure. It makes us (the supporters) look bad for stooping to their
Nasty tactics. Now, if a rumor were to start and no one knew where it came from...
Has the last few years taught anyone that these folks don't give five fucks about our optics and actively use it as leverage against us?
YouThinkThatsBad
Reminds me of the “i don’t agree but tolerate it” towards gay people attitude. That doesn’t make me think you’re any less of a prick
MKUltraMega
greenf1sh
Really need to stop bringing up "empathy" and "compassion" in these kinds of discussions. It's something those types will never concede to.
Cats2cats
Did an externship while in school. Told one client love doesn’t leave bruises(like she had). D/c inst came w/shelter number. She called.
daojones75
These people have zero empathy. They’re the exceptions to their own rules because they are indifferent to how their policies effect others.
hardytardigrade
Applies to conservatives in general. As long as they don't need something, no one else should have it. And if they do, it's a special case.
motoalchemist
we all kinda knew this, Republicans in general are exactly like this
gradeD
It's an ideology of extreme selfishness that has more recently taken on authoritarian and fascistic shades. It ain't good.
kheltan
I personally know two separate women in similar situations- problematic pregnancies, had abortions, called them miscarriages, still pro life
gradeD
The organized right hijacked the higher reasoning functions of their herd and those people are proof.
spitfires2000
aap71
this is exactly the same irrational repressed mentality as a gay-bashing homo sexing a dude then beating him up. right, DAN!?!
gradeD
Always suspected Dan was trash.
SassySailor
Conservatives are the worst
kerrigan778
I'm not surprised, but then again I'm also not surprised because this has been posted so many times since the first time 15 months ago.
SilverNicktail
Err no not remotely surprised. That's the primary difference between the modern conservative and everyone else - empathy.
gradeD
They "empathize" with those in power above them. It's a fully authoritarian movement now.
noncommital
and yet these same anti-abortion trolls wont try anal.
gradeD
Oh, some of them will though. Knew a girl who thought losing her virginity before marriage was wrong. Had tons of buttsex.
noncommital
heh - you found the assholy grail then ;)
ReverseSyzygy
religion too. rules apply to others, not oneself when inconvenient
fishthethird
Some ppl have this mentality "I've done this myself, so I have the right to advocate others don't because of MY OWN experience doing this...
fishthethird
... and MY OWN regrets in my life for doing it" but they fail to realize everyone is in their own situation and needs the same solution.
imyourrealdad
Empathy is the key word. Religious fundamentalism kills empathy in those indoctrinated.
sarahCommunityPrincess
This is how I feel when unvaxxed show up to me ER asking for antibodies
Cargobiker530
I can't imagine how tempted you must be to refer them to the local Fox News affiliate.
Zahnradfee
"If you had gotten the shot, you could have produced your own antibodies by now. Why do you think other bodies should to the work for you?"
ZargozTheTerrible
Upvote until my fingers bleed..."$ave the babie$!"
hellsgunslinger
Refuse service. It works everywhere else why not here
Onaspaceship
Fundamental Attribution Error
flexstar
gradeD
Good lord. I'm only half joking.
Huor
YIKES
Slytherwin
I hope neither my daughter nor I ever need one. But God forbid if we get raped or something, I want that option.
numonster
Also! Those I know who had/considered one did so out of health/financial concerns & took all precautions to not get preggo in the 1st place.
freckledkink
Yep. I have ms and have a tubal ligation. My 3 children were from condoms, the pill, and an IUD all used properly. I haven't had sex in
freckledkink
Years for fear of getting pregnant (I'm on 17 different medicines). I used condoms and spermicidal lubricant when I did (after my tubal). I
freckledkink
Can't afford another baby financially or physically. I'd actually love to have another one. I live in Mississippi and have made my children
freckledkink
And niece keep up with the abortion stuff. If my niece (her mom isn't really a fan of them, but isn't going to stop anyone from getting one)
freckledkink
Or any of her or my children's friends ever need an abortion, I've told them (my family, I'm not going to tell other people's kids) that any
Cargobiker530
Being anti-abortion, like anti-vaxx, isn't really a policy position. It's usually a statement of group identity.
imyourrealdad
Funny....they same to be the same people
ratilda
Zang1983
The group being "ignorant idiots"?
gradeD
Selfish, paranoid, propagandized morons?
gradeD
Abortion as a political issue was made such by a concerted effort by regressive and organized right wing forces in the US. It is not 1/
gradeD
a moral issue, and the fact that it's perceived as such is a testament to the strength of right wing propaganda in America. 2/2
Chakra5
It's all to keep the various strawmen up as outrage generators, in order to drive their minions to the polls. The GOP are fucking evil.
gradeD
Yes. They flagrantly spread the "gvmt is evil" line, while they are the active participants in making it so. Extremely selfish and twisted.
somtin
Here's the thing. Abortion is only mentioned in the bible once, and describes how to do one. So yeah it's a political move for power.
gotamachinehead
Catholic Church had no opposition to abortion before the baby’s movements could be felt until 1869
LordBaneoftheSith
Very well said. It's why the CRT-style claims of 'wokeness' being a dominant ideology are so troubling. Classic fascist self victimization
gradeD
Thanks. And, yep! Very grim.
LordBaneoftheSith
It's so frustrating to have the "opposition" party to this be centrist liberals. I'm genuinely terrified about where this ends up.
LordBaneoftheSith
Total BS that we have to deal with the climate crisis on top of the fascism. Man, people in the 40s had it easy (/s)
Taxicat
It explicitly started because of racism. Private Christian schools were being threatened by the IRS for refusing to integrate, so they >
Taxicat
>had to come up with some other wedge issue because even their own group just didn’t care enough about segregation anymore.
sandpirate
It seems to me that people like that see the world as black and white, no exceptions. You're either against abortions 100% or you get them
sandpirate
Regularly because you like murdering babies in the name of Satan. They don't seem to understand that there are many gray areas in between.
apollo661
nah, nuance is too hard, lets just point the finger and screech like possums at the most convenient target.
applesforjuice
Yeah I'm "anti abortion" as in I'm not a fan of abortion. I am pro choice and think abortions should be as safe and accessible as possible
gradeD
sandpirate
Only a sith deals in absolutes.
fishthethird
Lol sounds like a conversation with my coworker. Her: "I just don't think I should have the right to take away someone else's life"... 1/2
fishthethird
.... Meanwhile she told me earlier that year in a different conversation she's had like FOUR abortions...... 2/2
gradeD
That's so infuriating. The propaganda that gave her this actual doublethink is the real culprit, and I'll be damned if I know what to do 1/
gradeD
about it. Also, your co-worker is a fucking imbecile. 2/2
fishthethird
EXACTLY and when I called her out on it, she got mad lol
VesuvianPrime
Imagine a world without religion
TheDayTheBrainStoodStill
If religion didn't exist, the people thirsty for power, control and cruelty would have to invent it.
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RumpBuffalo
Nah, just smarter ones.
iDrinkDrano
Okay. They'll just move to fandoms and kill each other over golden cows.
Noughmad
It's easy if you try. But other commenters are right, even attempts to remove it usually just mean it gets replaced with something similar.
Sageypie
It'd be the same shit with different things to hide behind. Problem has never been religion, not really, it's just been corrupt assholes.
BumbleBeeBeardedGingerBear
It started early on as a form of governance, but i also want to believe things would have been better all around.
Chakra5
Religion is just a well of mind control being used by the oligarchy. It's the intellectual Monkeywrench factory. The GOP are the monkeys, 1/
Chakra5
dropping that shit in anything that tries to get a handle on their oligarchic overlords money grubbing destruction of humanity. 2/2
Iatesomecoffeecups
But then we wouldnt have so many fancy buildings
ThePastmaster
If not religion then some other batshit crazy thing would have cropped up. Imagine pseudoscience being the norm and people picking "teams".
OneCraftyHooker
Like the allied atheist alliance? I like it cuz it's all As
ThePastmaster
I was thinking more of the Nazi dude that rejected Relativity because "Aryan Physics do not need to be tainted by Jewish Physics."
DrunkenMarineBiologist
I shall crush your skull like a clam on my tummy
fractalsphere
Not sure why a clinic wouldn't simply choose not to perform a procedure on someone who clearly thinks it's a bad thing.
freckledkink
They're there to perform medical procedures, not confirm a belief system. There are private medical institutions that will turn people away
freckledkink
For various reasons, but most are for the public and won't turn any away who need the medical intervention they specialize in. I mean, look
freckledkink
At hospitals the past 2 years. They've been overflowing with Covidiots who've said covid is a hoax and and say the vaccination is (random
freckledkink
Conspiracy) with their dying breath. There's literally no telling how many thousands have died because triage dictates these are in more
freckledkink
Serious medical need than those who have heart attacks, cancer, etc, and they can't be turned away just because they're stupid and evil.
eggmuffin
Because they're not awful people...
DarthFutuza
If they provided their consent and agreed to the procedure then they clear think it's a good think, despite their doublethink.
DarthFutuza
I'm having a stroke halp.
whhy
Much unlike the Church, the clinic is there to help all people. I guarantee there's a Jewish doctor that has had to save a NeoNatsee
bishopolis
Medical staff have a particular privilege in a war-zone, but also particular responsibilities. If only the kids with the boom-sticks knew
bishopolis
... or the border soldiers taking pot-shots at the highly-visible green-smocked doctors and killing them daily.
bishopolis
As if the UN was their bitch not just once but forever.
Huor
That's not how it works. Nor should it.
MathieuGaydos
That's not how it works....
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Beleg7
Yes, it would be unreasonable.
fractalsphere
I can't disagree with providing medical care. But if someone truly believes abortions are bad, and is berating staff, they can choose to not
fractalsphere
..to take care of that customer. Why would any customer at any store who is being abusive not get kicked out without service?
Huor
You can't start empowering medical people to deny treatment to people based on their personal beliefs. You just can't.
Kennleth
1/ You actually can, the moment they become abusive. Doctors, nurses, and clinic staff are people as well and shouldn’t be abused, the only
Huor
"Abusive" isn't the same as "personal beliefs."
Kennleth
2/ real power they have is to withhold services, much like a retailer.
extrasad
My best friend as a child, a pastor's daughter, was vehemently anti-abortion. As an adult she contacted me because she needed a ride to get>
extrasad
an abortion. I helped her out, but she's still anti-abortion, and no one in her life knows that she had one.
ImAnActionBirb
Time to let it “slip”
Gayforbae
Out anti-aboution abortion-havers, out the Antigay politicians getting their ass railed in the back of the drag bar, out them all.
EpicEggnog
What you do with this information will test- Trust, Loyalty, and your morality
extrasad
This happened like 10+ years ago, I have no intention of doing anything
EpicEggnog
You sound like a true friend!
TheDoctorCrankenstein
Sounds like a coward that helps perpetuate the movement to rollback of women's right.
juxtjCandyBaroness
Really time to see the true numbers- there must of been a reason I could not get an appointment the same day I called and had to wait
MorrighanWolf
Out her.
imyourrealdad
Yet......
Welliguessillgogetpants
Time to out her. The reason this crap continues, is people like you stay silent. Time to put that bitch on blast.
urboyevan2
Yep
erne1
Why the fuck does this comment get upvoted... this is a disgusting thing to say. Fuck you.
JustSomePersonThere
あなたは嫌です
urboyevan2
No one is really getting outed chief so relax. And if anyone is shaming others for getting an abortion yet they also did then fuck em out em
Superflash4
Did you misunderstand the comment?
Nalianna
So, you're pro-hypocrite?
DiningKruger
Because the world is tired of virtue signaling hippocritical scum. Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.
Welliguessillgogetpants
Lmao the reason this comment gets upvoted is because of hypocrites like you. Fuck me? Go jump head first into a frozen lake.
erne1
FUCK, I totally missed the point and mixed some names up
DiningKruger
Maybe put her on blast next time she makes a public post.
nanoman273
Yes
texasfoodman
Won’t help unless (s)(t)he(y) has proof
DiningKruger
"Shut up Barb, you know full well you had an abortion you hippocritical see you next Tues.
texasfoodman
Bla bla bla I didn’t neener neener bla bla
freckledkink
No. Even though she's a hypocrite, it is something personal. Even women who are pro-abortion would be mortified if they were put on blast
TheDoctorCrankenstein
Don't give a shit. It's also personal for the people they try to deny access to the same rights. Hypocrites need to be called out.
DiningKruger
Women who are pro abortion aren't the hypocrites. She's taking it from personal to public by ostracizing others. Fuck her.
Welliguessillgogetpants
As opposed to all the women who need help and are put on blast by those "God loving people" the same ones who harass abortion clinics ?
freckledkink
For having had one that no one knew about. Like any other medical procedure. It makes us (the supporters) look bad for stooping to their
freckledkink
Nasty tactics. Now, if a rumor were to start and no one knew where it came from...
iDrinkDrano
Has the last few years taught anyone that these folks don't give five fucks about our optics and actively use it as leverage against us?