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By now many have probably seen the latest temper tantrum from 50 year old frat boy and 4Chan thread come to life, Elon Musk. After first suggesting Ukraine could end the war by simply surrendering large portions of their country to Russia (we all remember how effective that was in 1939), our guy Musk has now claimed he's taking his toys and going home, and will no longer provide Ukraine with free access to Starlink.
The only problem with that is that Ukraine has never had free access to Starlink.
From the beginning, the US (and probably other governments as well) has been paying Elorc for Starlink access in Ukraine (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/08/us-quietly-paying-millions-send-starlink-terminals-ukraine-contrary-spacexs-claims). But based on this thread, it seems that many Ukrainians have also been paying *out of their own pockets* for access to Starlink.
Starlink is immeasurably important to the Ukrainian military because much of the war is being fought in areas where radio and cell phone communications are unworkable. Starlink plugs that gap by providing a line of communication where it would otherwise be impossible.
Side note, I have not looked into this charity at all. No one should give money to any charity, anywhere, without first doing some digging to determine their legitimacy and their moneyhandling policies. But I'm including the tweet for the sake of completeness since it's part of the thread. Bottom line is this is not an endorsement.
https://mobile.twitter.com/dim0kq/status/1580827171903635456
Muck has never given away access to Starlink. Not once from Day 1. And creating noise about it now may cause communication blackouts and result in actual lives being lost.
It's time to end the myth that Ol Rusky is here to help anyone.
Kukabuksilaks
HonestCommentFarmer
I don't often traffic in conspiracy theories, but he has allegedly met with Putin recently. One has to wonder what they discussed.
HowCurious
I’m so fucking sick of Elon musk
TheobromineAddict
And there's this rumor going around:
Sentay
every accusation is a confession, just like with all other trash.
Crowlands
Providing aid to an enemy of America (Russia)? Sounds like a traitor to me.
MadCat221
06cpayne
To the top!
IToldYouSo1
1lastaccount
Musk cut a deal with Russia. Russian airspace is a nice payment to cut service.
TheDandyMan0
That Elon musk is an asshole and half
slinkiisu
It was never free to begin with what the fuck is he on
itsjustplaid
I wish people would stop idolizing this asshole and giving him money.
MioTaalas
Why private companies should NOT be providing anyone a communication infrastructure. It's too important to be left on profit seeking entity.
TheMentallyillist
Perhaps it’s time to begin a short selling campaign?
anlkeynz
He’s put the satellites into orbit so his sunk cost is already there and has nothing to do with Ukraine. The useage would have small 1/
anlkeynz
Variable cost; which is what he is being paid for, and making profits from.. he’s full of shit
Sm9yCg
THE SOLUTION IS SIMPLE: NATIONALIZE STARLINK. FFS.
iknowhowmuchkumquatscost
Elon is cunt, so…
timbit1000
The US should just nationalize SpaceX and cut him out. it'd be pretty clear cut on national security grounds
Taltos111
There are times when nationalizing something and giving the ol novichok to a tech billionaire is justified imo
imeanYUUUGE
BeetBoxer
No change needed from original text.
imeanYUUUGE
True, i could’ve just added his face.
TheMentallyillist
What a small, insecure, and petty man.
PrinceOfWhales
Musk is the new Dick Cheney. Fight me.
Caldersson
Gen X version of Trump was the best thing I heard.
billstranger
Honestly, i think Musk is way worse, or at least has the potential to be way worse all told.
whatsisname
How do you figure? They both are awful but they were both awful in pretty different ways.
PrinceOfWhales
War profiteering is never a good look.
cyberspork
Musk is a pos. Also nice at 0 indexing his thread
glovelyday
Musk is a dick. Nothing more.
peterteiderneimann3
Add pro putin in the charges
ChickenROAR
Can we still add more to this list? Reprehensible lying sociopathic fart nugget.
DostoevskyDiscipleDude
making specific insults for famous people should be your job. Cuz that was perfect.
FuzzyWolfy329
Amazing, really. Just by opening his mouth, he went from internet golden boy to low hanging fruit by letting the world know he’s a pos.
glovelyday
Tesla? I thought "Cool". SpaceX had success I thought "Cool". Orbit a car? "Cool". Hyperloop? Maybe he knows something I don't. Now? POS
FuzzyWolfy329
Literally all projects I could get behind, all of them promising sustainability. Turns out, just a rich guy making his own toys.
glovelyday
Hyperloop is a pipe dream and has been since the first demonstation system was built by Ely Beach in 1870. Pure hucksterism.
FuzzyWolfy329
No surprises there, the logistics for it were insane even at the smallest possible scale, and he was proposing it for international travel.
Ilikestyx
USAID paid $1,500 per uplink and $800,000 for transportation.... but Elon is a capitalist... so he's not into giving anything for free.
GerbilHereReportingLiveFromRichardGeresAss
Then why did he say he was giving it away for free and doing them a favor? When it was just operating like anywhere else that's paid for?
AwesomeName
Given Musk's net worth, even paying for everything would not even put a dent in his wealth.
dalaiyoda
Just pretending he was.
dudedude09
Moscow Musk
Cutwail
Elon Moskva
CarlBaker99
Ruski Muski
Zimyoumoron
Yes, it's called warprofiteering. Happens all the time. Tesla, Boeing, Raytheon, Lockheed are making billions, paid for by the taxpayers. Oh
atomfixes101
I am praying Biden will show musk that little trick where he is allowed to force any company in the country to do wtv for defense
FallingStar7669
I think they prefer the term "motivated transactions".
Ultratoxic
Yeah, but Boeing can't turn off their jet when the military is already using it.
Merky600
Uh Little Orphan Annie. Remember the rich guy? Daddie Warbucks? How do you think he made his $$$ The name was comment WWI profiteers.
Zimyoumoron
also: https://www.businessinsider.com/congress-war-profiteers-stock-lockheed-martin-raytheon-investment-2022-3?international=true&r=US&IR=T
AirshipNavigator
Prolly should find a better source than BI tho. They're basically tabloid trash dressed up.
BeetBoxer
Definitely seems like a bold new twist to take money, claim you're operating for free, and then yank the service you were paid for.
vonHoopla
When noone is going to lynch him for being evil, he has no reason not to be as evil as possible.
mikekearn
I mean basic moral decency seems like a good reason. Shit like this just proves he has none.
override367
war profiteers usually keep their mouths shut about being victims, my guess? starlink will announce how deep shit it is in financially soon
override367
musk will blame ukraine despite the entire business model being at fault
FuzzyWolfy329
Ding, ding, ding!
neverpostsoriginalcontent
Why is it always assholes who control resources?
SpaceSphere
Because assholes are the ones who gobble up the resources to start with
azarza
think it goes beyond war-profiteering.. this is 'i turned your gun off because of my whims'
RednapxpandeR
Russia has class 1 Nickle to make batteries. Am I the only one who smells some shenanigans going on!?
Mmbear
My thought is more on the shortage of oil and natural gas are causing people to look for green solutions causing more demand on materials>
Mmbear
To produce batteries. Meaning it will cut into his bottom line.
RednapxpandeR
Exactly. Follow the money.
Treblaine
I'm pretty sure that relatively little nickel is used in modern lightweight batteries.
RednapxpandeR
And what if Nickle goes up almost 30% because of what’s going on in Ukraine? And Russia has a lot of it.
RednapxpandeR
And bro you are wrong, per car battery is required…. A typical electric car battery has: 25 pounds of lithium 60 pounds of nickel 44 pounds
Treblaine
Not entirely wrong, SOME batteries use Nickel, others don't use any Nickel at all. Nickel gives higher capacity at inherently high cost.
RednapxpandeR
of manganese 30 pounds cobalt 200 pounds of copper 400 pounds of aluminum, steel, and plastic. - A quick search
Nunyajonesinc
Aw, did da whittle man get his feewings hurt?
n3cr0fag0
whittle man with warge ego
jrntn
How the fuck is this part flying this much under the radar?
jrntn
This is literally Elon Musk openly admitting to be personally responsible for the deaths of Ukrainians out of sheer fucking spite
jrntn
How is this not enough for a war crimes tribunal?
mistermixelpix
Musk called a guy a pedophile for rescuing children without Tesla equipment. Never forget that.
onepinksheep
The way I see it, your oft-repeated go-to insult says more about you than the other person. Ergo, Musk is probably a pedophile.
mazelt0vc0ckt4il
I remember that was the start of his downfall. because before that he was super cool after that everyone went WTF?
mazelt0vc0ckt4il
& once he didn't apologise & doubled down people started REALLY looking at him & it became pretty clear he was a douche w/ a captial bag.
justravenhere10
Musk also is stating to end the war in Ukraine, that Ukraine should pretty much give Russia what it wants
dffksh
Waiting for Elongated Muskrat to blurt out "Dimko means Pedo in Ukranian" or something like that.
IhopeyougetstageIIIcoloncancer
Not even equipment, without his half-cocked, back-of-the napkin idea that wasn't built and wouldn't work even if it was.
Forobviousreasons
Also hired a private investigator to dig up dirt on the guy, but found nothing.
Ohyesireallydidthat
What, really? Source?
PullThePinAndCountToWhat
Don't know why people are down voting this, they asked for a source because it was new information to them, that's good critical thinking.
cadesama
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/06/unsworth-vs-musk-pedo-guy-defamation-trial-verdict.html
ydwyrd
That was the exact moment many of us realized what he really was. I used to stick up for the guy, but after that? Musk can die in a ditch.
Gnoll
Ah yes but you see calling someone a pedo was a common insult, so that makes it OK. I would /s but that was his actual argument.
dposton70
Yeah. I'm embarrassed that my lust for cool tech clouded my realization that Musk sucked until that moment.
Alavar
Well now you all learned that regardless of what a person is doing, if they're getting filthy rich off of it, they're a pos.
TheOvy
The bullshittyness of hyperloop was the first sign, but the Thai Cave fiasco sealed the deal. Anyone reading an article at the time would
TheOvy
know how some of the corners were so tight that an adult man with a sucba tank could barely squeeze through. Which is to say, a 10' rigid
TheOvy
submersible is utterly useless. Musk interjected himself into that crisis, and in a clear display of lacking knowledge, "gave" them
TheOvy
something that anyone with even cursory knowledge of the scenario would know is useless. Then he flew himself to Thailand, uninvited, to
TheOvy
tweet photos of himself just outside the rescue operation. They had to ask him to leave! Calling someone actually responsible for the rescue
KaptainObveeus
his supporting evidence for that was that he lives in Thailand and is single. If I recall correctly.
DivisionIsTheRootOfEvil
I'm going to be honest; I usually make the same assumption about white male expats in Thailand, because child prostitution is a huge 1/3
Sprinx
Related SNL commercial https://youtu.be/ctDjnG8J9cY
KaptainObveeus
lol jesus christ. thanks for that i guess.
DivisionIsTheRootOfEvil
Oh, wow, I had never seen that. I think I might've just sprained something simultaneously laughing and cringing.
DivisionIsTheRootOfEvil
industry there and that's why Rush Limbaugh types go there. Generally it's pedos that prefer boys, the ones that prefer girls will 2/3
DivisionIsTheRootOfEvil
go to Bolivia instead. Or at least that's what my friend who had an NGO job investigating child prostitution told me. No personal knowledge
KiwiGameDev
Well thats horrifying knowledge I know posses and will have to actively repress since if I randomly blurt it out and someone asks how I know
KaptainObveeus
Huge respect to those that work to fight child prostitution. I think that job would psychologically destroy me.
WaveMotionGum
expats move to places like Thailand or vietnam because it's cheap AF and they can actually retire on money that wouldn't last them a year.
3wattbulb
And attract a compliant wife
WaveMotionGum
Are there countries where you can retire on 100k US where you feel that isn't true?
KaptainObveeus
that's fair, I didn't know that. But you can't go out and accuse someone just because of that.
WaveMotionGum
I'm saying living in those countries is cheap, not prostitution specifically. I don't think it's as big a draw for oldsters as people think
FourScoreAndSevenBeersAgo
If you own a Tesla and aren't a simp, time to trade it in.
JTheGiant
Mine is a pretty decent car. The world is boiling. Elon sucks.
Caldersson
I was going to get a Tesla 3, musk made me want to wait until bmw makes a 3 series electric car or i4.
Filanwizard
no real point in dumping a car once its bought unless its a lemon, Its just bad financial sense. but if looking new you have choices now.
Filanwizard
Especially in Europe where fast charging infrastructure has to use a universal connector by law.
BeetBoxer
From what I've seen, it looks like they're crap cars with awful service policies besides. There are other electric cars out there.
Kottok
He no longer has a monopoly in the mass produced electric car market. Thankfully.
TheMadOnion
I used to want a Tesla, but that was basically when they were the only viable electric car. I hear they're built like shit anyway.
SquirtleSquad420
They are very good cars, but the factories built to make them are shit, so many come off the production line needing to be fixed.
englishmaninnm
They were good, but successive botched updates have made mine an absolute pile of shit. Can't wait until the lease is up in May.
n0n53n53
"If you own a Tesla and aren't a simp" is this possible?
magnificentfurmaster
Aye, that's me. I really enjoy the car. Muskie, Tesla the company, not so much. Does it help that I debadged my car?
jiynxed
My brother and sister in law. They divested their Tesla stock as soon as musk started getting shitty(so, years ago).
jiynxed
They haven't sold the car yet but they're shopping around for options.
n0n53n53
"They divested their Tesla stock as soon as musk started getting shitty" impossible bcs the IPO was in 2010 and Musk was shitty b4 that
jiynxed
Visibly shitty to them. I've only got so many characters to use here.
quzar
Yes. There are plenty of iPhone users too like 'I don't know, I went to the store and asked for a new phone, this is what I got'
n0n53n53
so people go to a car store and just leave with a Tesla? I think it takes a bit more targeted shopping than a phone
quzar
"I heard it was good and electric". They aren't so niche that they require being a member of the cult to hear about them or find them.
WhoStoleMySweetroll
Check out Polestar. The Swedes - soon to be NATO members, hot women, and meatballs. Who needs Elon?
zenandtheartofmadness
The Swedes are soon to be meatballs?!
Ariltongadottir
Yeah, kinda. Around 20% voted for the just-recently-nazis party. A party who was founded by Nazis, and was protesting with Nazi flags in 90s
billstranger
So 15-ish% less than the americans who voted for the nazi party. Still sounds like a win.
Circosys
I thought Polestar was Chinese. Anyway, if I had the cash. I'd get a Lucid.
WhoStoleMySweetroll
They're made in China but Polestar is a Volvo brand.
Circosys
Ahh ok. Learned something new.
TuckerCarlsonWarnedYouTheredBeGirlsLikeMe
A Chinese investment company bought Volvo years ago.
OneInThePinkTwoInTheStink
Yes but Volvo is owned by Geely, which is Chinese.
WhoStoleMySweetroll
TIL!
ScootyPuffSr
I wouldn’t buy a new Tesla, hell no. But if you’d already bought one, Ggetting rid of it doesn’t hurt Russkiy Musky.
TuckerCarlsonWarnedYouTheredBeGirlsLikeMe
Cars need to be serviced regularly. Best to pay such costs to someone else.
FourScoreAndSevenBeersAgo
Less teslas on the road means less public acceptance of them and less advertising for musky
Choiced
This. They're so normalized here that cops don't even pull them over for the missing front plate any more(illegal in my state).
Findrek
I am guessing most tesla owners can't afford to throw the thing in the compactor so it'll just be on the road with its new owner.
FourScoreAndSevenBeersAgo
Right, but that means the buyer buys at a reduced price, which screws musk and now there's only 1 Tesla on the road instead of 2 ;)
Findrek
That assumes a lot. If used isn't available second guy mightve bought a rivian instead.
japh
The car doesn't disappear just because you sold it. People drive used cars.
FourScoreAndSevenBeersAgo
And they get the car for a reduced price instead of buying a new one. How is that not a good thing in screwing musky?
FourScoreAndSevenBeersAgo
And now there's only 1 Tesla driving around instead of 2. Totally understand your thought process though.