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Nov 16, 2017 7:20 PM
DarnNiceGuy
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Somethingsomthingdarkseid
10/10. can relate
fajitaladofficial
Oh my lawd, yes. I work as a phone surveyor, and I absolutely hate this.
ScubaDiver17
SAME
t0wni3
If you master this.......should go on ur resume. Just saying
karimonsterbitches
OMFG YES.
NWeasley21
YES!!
Jenngirl
Yes!!!!
MidnightTheDragon
Took me way longer than it should have for me to notice...
swagglerage
YES
Ephemeraleloquence
It took me 2 years at a desk job to figure out why I could never dial the damn phone right the first time!!!
kieron0
Used to work as telephone operator. Our computers had special keyboards with the numberpad laid out like a phone. hard to get used to.
Fwatair
I feel this fucking every day. Uugghhh
LucidBunny
I have tried to explain this pain to my coworkers and they say they don't notice...was starting to feel crazy.
losCHUNK
I had this working for a bloody bank !, I only realised when I sent money to a wrong account.
Supermarketsuperman
Yeah, I hate Nortel Meridian phones too...
MaggieB12
I know-this kills me!
isthisnametskentoo
So true! At least once a day I dial a number wrong because of this.
aehrtl
Juddftw
I'm normally on autopilot at work and wonder how I've rung the wrong number
MovingToTheCountryGonnaEatAlotOfPeaches
Somehow manage to use both all day long without even thinking about the differences.
vampyrita
My work has one of those verifone credit card machines, which is set up like a phone. And we use a regular keyboard all the time too. Nbd.
Okebel
I only get mixed up when i look at the keys. If i don't i almost never make a mistake. That's what the little bump on the 5 is for.
Danrulz98
Feature 630 for a good time
Troldann
I’m fine until I actually go to DIAL a phone number in Skype or something on my PC.
ellavator
Same. I can type numbers on both without looking. I type too much
PJVeddersGirl
Yeap, me too. Autopilot for both.
PainfullyAvg
If I stop to think about it i have to basically take a quick break to forget then restart.
peanutbutterpopcorn
Clear cache, try again
TheThirteenthDoctor
"Did you turn it off and back on again?"
valen00
Do you work in IT? Have the elders given you permission to use the sacred phrase?
garulfos
Exactly!! Thank you!! None of my co-workers get this.
DICKNIPPLESGALORE
I also hate my Norstar phone
dijital101
As does everyone that's ever used a Meridian.
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
I don’t think I had noticed this. I hate you
DarnNiceGuy
SnorkeldinkCameltoe
I mostly do calculations and data entry with the occasional phone call. I now realize why I always dial phone numbers wrong.
Falos
This. Dials are infrequent, especially as more integrate contact lists.
Happyrexmanningday
Yes! I pause and look like an idiot because i dial phone numbers so slow. 10-key all the way the rest of the day!
Ascvsach
As an accountant I empathize with you, @DarnNiceGuy
mysteryperson
Omg me too
JengaLee
Does the paper say “WXYZ” since your phone has the “Z” on the wrong number?
Mikesjca
That's a Nortel phone, most likely an M Series 0QZ... completely normal. Nothing to see here.
DarnNiceGuy
Yes. My phone is weird.
MustBeThatDutchDude
Maybe it's a French phone. You know, a francophone.
SeeMyVests
That was franco-foul.
brassinpocket
As a francophone... hon hon hon.
squallau
Q and Z being on zero is a decades-old telephony standard. Putting PQRS and WXYZ on 7 and 9 came with SMS AFAIK.
Pahqman
I thought they were on 1?
clnoy
2) I always remember that when I type in chinese, 'cause it's also predictive (it has to be). It's so fun. Ok, I'm a nerd... but it is fun!
clnoy
Do you remember what was it like to use predictive text? Typing a whole message by just pressing the numbers? That was lit, yo.
InTheDistanceAPlaintiveEnglishHorn
T9 was fucking amazing. Especially for languages with long words.
Cheomesh
T9
ILikeCharmanderOk
I do that every day. I don't care for 'smart' phones personally.
clnoy
How smart of you.
Sinjai
T9, good stuff.
hostforghosts
Totally agree with this. I've never understood why this is but it pisses me off daily.
holymoleyidontknowwhattotype
The calculator layout was too fast for just invented touch tone systems. This slowed people down.
HRinappropriate
This is the ACTUAL reason. Thank you I would've posted myself but you beat me to it.
graygrif
When they designed the phone layout, most people didn't have much experience with calculators. Also, AT&T did a lot of testing with the 1/2
graygrif
public and the phone layout was the most widely praised. Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCSzjExvbTQ 2/2
pandro
sensible for laymen. adding machines use 789 because starting number digits are more likely to be lower. Benford's Law.
Cutwail
My car gps is set to alphabetical order, i hate it so much...
xerofall
The worst is when I try to pinch the screen to shrink the image
60n1w
that's the worst :(
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DarnNiceGuy
8, 6, 7, 5, 3, 0, 9
f10yd
Well played.
nefets
why?
Cutwail
Because everything is in qwerty/azerty order ?
nefets
im afraid i still dont understand
YouMayFindThisMildlyInteresting
He's saying the onscreen keyboard is ABC... not qwerty.
IMayOrMayNotHaveTroubleFindingAndOrChoosingAUsername
If you're used to QWERTY, using ABCDE is a total bitch.
nefets
that makes sense
usersubbordercontrol
I am the kind of person that has taken apart keyboards and phones to make the layout match
zagibu
I am the kind of person that doesn't use the numpad at all and instead uses the number row below the F-keys.
doubledoubleanimalstyle
I'm guessing you don't punch in lots of numbers at one time throughout the day on a keyboard... it's so much faster.
TheBlackVan
Teach me!
usersubbordercontrol
Solder a new keypad. Don't look pretty, but it works, like me
TheBlackVan
hungitalianohwaitthisisntgrindr
how do you reprogram the buttons?
toonwolflink418
You can reprogram the keyboard buttons by messing around in the registry, or using third party software.
n0rs
E.g., RandyRants SharpKeys: https://github.com/randyrants/sharpkeys
usersubbordercontrol
Solder. Never said it's pretty
hungitalianohwaitthisisntgrindr
ah. in that case it seems a bit much. honestly it never bothered me at all so i can’t imagine doing that much work to change it.
usersubbordercontrol
Well, either I solder it, or create a simple board like the one normally there, and resolder it, if it's one of those plastic sheets type
DildoSwagg1ns
I was thinking the same thing this afternoon!! What cruel bastard thought this up!?
FightMeYouLongAssBitch
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2019/why-do-telephone-keypads-count-from-the-top-down-while-calculators-count-from-the-bottom-up
spammer206
I took a picture of the same thing today but didn't send it to anyone cause I thought noone would get it
bitemark
More importantly, who was right?
giitsok
https://imgur.com/fMYOsp4.gif
giitsok
I was thinking this when I was at my previous job. I had to make a lot of calls and input a lot of numbers. Drove me nuts
SolomonCane
When phones were still dial tone based, data entry personnel were dialing faster than the tone recognition could process the information.
pandro
The reason from the ACCOUNTING side is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benford's_law. Most 2-digit data will start in the low numbers.
DarnNiceGuy
There's actually a really interesting video on YouTube that explains it. Doesn't make it any less frustrating though. I'll post it later.
CoderWithoutCaffeine
I can help you. You can reprogram the keyboard keypad with autohotkey if you want to have both the same lol.
ItsNotASchoonerItsASailboat
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leecherx
That's how I got my debit card pin wrong, used one that looks like #2 and yeah, not fun when you have loads of groceries waiting to be paid.
theHitchenator
What psychopath put that design on a chip and pin reader?
SourPatchMan94
Dude that fucked me up me one time! I remember standing there like an idiot thinking "why can't I remember my pin?!"
nefets
TL;DW old calculators moved the cogs as many times as the number implied, old telephones worked with pulses and the 0 meant ten pulses
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nefets
explains why they are different, its the baggage we get from legacy hardware
SomeOneHasBeenLookingForYou
Similar baggage defined railroad track width TL;DR: based on the ruts/width of a two-horse chariot.
i336
We don't have rotary dials on PC keyboards though. You haven't explained the orientation difference between keyboards and keypads
TheMrGUnit
Numberphile has one about the phone layout: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCSzjExvbTQ
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bugseducer
Thanks! Was fun to watch.
InTheDistanceAPlaintiveEnglishHorn
I used to have a rotary phone in my apartment. That was like in 2012.
GtiScorch
doot. Thank you
DarnNiceGuy
Thanks!
aka184mommie
Doesn't explain why calculators and computers have it the opposite way
kepler20c
Early calculators (adding machines) were mechanical, so values were probably arranged close together, thus the keys had to be close together
ILikeCharmanderOk
The fuck does that have to do with making the layout a mirror image??
TheMrGUnit
I know, I thought I knew the video he was referring to, but that's all I could remember. It's kind of neat in its own right, though.
KlassWizardDotExe
Almost certain she says in video that the adding machine layout was slower than the telephone layout, which could be part of explanation
DarnNiceGuy
It was EXACTLY the video I was referring to !