OMFGWhatHaveWeDONE
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The President is the bully.
He had just a few hours to go before he retired and Trump had him fired then taunted him on Twitter.
He's supposed to be the President of the United States.
There are no official details on why he was fired. Only that it was "recommended" by Office of Professional Responsibility and Office of Inspector General for "lack of candor"
FYI. The OPR and Inspector General both report to directly Sessions:
https://imgur.com/SoPe23v
https://www.justice.gov/opr
BlacksMcNutt
Anyone believe the FBI was/is culpable and biased?? Or just all the other police forces??
dontrike
He kept a lot of info from Trump and now he's going to release it. Trump respects no one and gets no respect in return.
Spheyr
The President didn't have him fired, there were multiple committees involved. The poor multimillionaire dear will get by.
ForbiddenManiac
Regardless if you agree or disagree with Trump you can’t deny that he is the most classless president to date
Nordenfeldt
Get out and vote in the 2018 midterm elections. Half the angry commenters here won’t even vote. MAKE thanks change.
shankill
scout48cav
Elect a clown; expect a circus.
ipheltabubi
Hours from forced early retirement due to corruption revealed by the IG.
MericanNightmare
You mean the IG report that hasn't been released yet?
ipheltabubi
Obviously Sessions has a copy.
MericanNightmare
Trumps pet racist? Yes I know
unclassified
McCabe is unprofessional and political.Even before trump was in office.Trump is bullied by everybody, he fights back - they don't like it.
TheGhostofElizabethShue
So you accept Trump had a hand in it? You know that makes him a criminal, right?
jimvolfan
Sack of shit got what he deserves
newsguycraigevans
Congratulations! You've fallen for the right wing propaganda. You should be ashamed. Go sit in the corner.
jimvolfan
Opinions vary. I think the FBI needs to get their act together.
LeiLahDey
If true, Trump (biggest sack of shit) should get same and then some!!
hagelslag
Suprised at all the MAGAs on Imgur.
goatchuck
We are here, we just usually don't chime in because we don't want to be relegated to the hidden comments or shadow banned.
Angrynortherner
Funny how when Obama proposed a meeting with Kimmy J Fox News was all "Negotiating with terrorists, bad for America!" but when Trump 1/2
Angrynortherner
2/2 does it, they praise him for being forward thinking and sensible. Like what
mindstorm8191
Is this guy getting fired over leaking info about Clinton's emails to media? Why is Trump still making a big deal about this anyway?
neoritter
Lemme clarify something for you people not in the government sphere. You don't lose your pension because the President hates you. 1/2
OlderWiser
Damn, somebody telling the truth get upvoted on one of these hate posts? +1.
OMFGWhatHaveWeDONE
He didn't "lose his pension". He was forced out before his 50th birthday (today?) and gets partial pension.
IAmJacksRagingBileDuct
The IG, an independent office for oversight, said McCabe should be fired. We'll know what was in their full report shortly.
neoritter
You lose it because you did something illegal or borderline illegal.
SpecialGuest
Da, is pravda, comrade.
neoritter
Hell it's really hard to fire a government employee, that's why contractors are so appealing.
NewtGinGrinch
Lack of candor is what they are accusing.
tsatomic
And to be fair, the FBI leadership (which includes this jerk) overly politicized their "lawful duties". Cry me a river, McCabe.
TheInfamousPenguin
As a Swede, the whole firing before your pension thing makes NO SENSE what so ever. How did such a system even come into being...
Callistan
Pensions are very rare in the US nowadays. I was honestly surprised to see that government officials still have them.
TheInfamousPenguin
In Sweden everyone have 3 pensions, The one the state provides, the one you get from your job(All of them your entire life) and your ->
TheInfamousPenguin
private pension that you save up yourself
HolyCringeLordBatman
We kind of that here, although the employer provided one is basically nonexistent now. We have social security from the state and
HolyCringeLordBatman
most people save at least a little bit in a private one
bigusdigus
This post is he has AstroTurf written all over it. Fucking superPACs pushing lies on social media.
MericanNightmare
It's literally what he said. How is that a lie?
bigusdigus
The man was fired for lying under oath. Public evidence suggests its much, much worse than that. But the shills for MSM push this fake shit.
herringtonj47
While Trump exactly handle this situation with tact, this man needed to be fired. He lied and attempted to stab Trump in the back illegally.
MericanNightmare
Source. Source source source????
herringtonj47
https://www.npr.org/2018/03/17/594610589/ex-fbi-agent-on-mccabe-firing-lack-of-candor-is-a-serious-offense
herringtonj47
This is off of a simple Google search. His crimes include illegal disclosure and lack of candor under oath. Response?
NineColonels100
He authorized the disclosure of sensitive information to a reporter and misled investigators, he deserved to be fired.
MericanNightmare
Source?
NineColonels100
The FBI’s Office of Professional Responsibility recommend the firing. Obama politicized the FBI and JD. Many more will fall
crystaltiger101
That's an incredibly ignorant statement.
NineColonels100
Which part?
direwolf55
WRONG. Trump did not fire the deputy director. Atty Gen Sessions did, at the recommendation of career staff in the inspector general’s (1)
direwolf55
office who found he directed his staff to leak information regarding the Clinton email investigation, (2)
direwolf55
and then lied about it to congressional investigators. The FBI needs to be cleaned up; this is a start. (3)
mindstorm8191
Hmm, interesting. But what did he leak? I worry that Trump wants to keep this all hidden so he can continue to bash the Democrats about it
MericanNightmare
Who does the DOJ work for again? Oh yeah.
ROCKETMAN1979
Was it a recommendation from the yet to be release IG report? Please provide a link.
FubarSnafu
Look at all the sheeple, sound a sleep - Last time I checked it is a federal crime to tamper with a federal investigation. Lucky to be fired
ClintBaxley
I can't believe how many conflate idealism with morals.
TheGhostofElizabethShue
You might have had a point but you unironically used the word 'sheeple' so now everyone knows you're a dumbass.
newsguycraigevans
Congratulations! You've fallen for the right wing propaganda. You should be ashamed. Go sit in the corner.
mardukkur
Wingnuts will happily parrot any lie to make themselves feel better.
danlliot
I thought I was the only one that thought this... thank you...
Sumpte
There's always plenty of other stupid people, don't worry.
TheGhostofElizabethShue
Fuckin' burn.
MericanNightmare
Source?
OMFGWhatHaveWeDONE
Full statement: https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2018/03/andrew-mccabe-full-statement-everyone-should-read-it-3
nathanwooly
Definitely a biased site.
toboldlygowherenomanhasgonebefore
Yes it is, so far I'm with you (https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/mother-jones/). But that doesn't mean they falsified his statement, right?
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/read-former-fbi-deputy-director-andrew-mccabe-s-full-statement-n857511
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
So you don't have to link to that far left bigotry site anymore.
LeiLahDey
What? That’s an oxymoron.
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
I take it you assume the far left can do no wrong, then.
LeiLahDey
You know what they say about assuming...
pisdhiuasdhius
What? Far left and bigotry? They're just as bigoted as the far right, only it's okay to be bigoted against whites, men, and heterosexuals.
WhooshBaiterYouWhooshYouLose
And many people who are far leftists belong to those demos.Hence the new phenomenon of identity cannibalism
LuckyLuke193
Ignore the useless article they wrote, and only read the statement then. Read it on another site if you don't want to give them traffic.
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
I linked to a different article in a parallel comment.
Username1010101
I....I just don't know what to say at this point.
benicetoyourparents
Factual evidence has shown this POS knew there was Clinton cover ups, FBI breaches of security, illegal shit, and did nothing to stop it.
dycdc932718
https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/homenews/administration/378901-mccabe-blasts-house-intel-republicans-over-nunes-memo%3famp
dycdc932718
seems like a lot of people forget that this is about Mccabe using a document that he more then likely knew was bunk.
TakWriterOfWorlds
Ha! No.
definitelynotawolf
I have yet to see anyone making this claim back it up with a source. But fuck facts right? You’ve got “alternative facts”!
newsguycraigevans
Congratulations! You've fallen for the right wing propaganda. You should be ashamed. Go sit in the corner.
YeahButIThinkIAteIt
It is amazing how all you posters keep making claims when Sessions' IG Report has not been released to the public.
MericanNightmare
Got a reliable source on that?
CondescendingCunt
Breitbart, I'm guessing. Or Fox News. Or maybe InfoWars... or The Daily Stormer. :^)
MericanNightmare
bregma
Same source as facts on the trade deficit with Canada.
wagnus
Source?
RepostFromLastWeek
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump
theresgarlicinthatnebula
"Just read Breitbart.com or watch Fox News, idk"
cardboardunderwear
To add to this, Trump is sending a message to everyone else too. You won't just lose your job, you will lose your pension.
TraitorousTrump3
And the entire GOP sits by complicit. From fucker Ryan on down.
iWantFunk
Why do you think countless staffers from his administration are resigning? They know this.
yarow12
He's a businessman. This should surprise no one.
CrocodileDunphy
He's not losing his pension. Stop blindly regurgitating everything you see on the internet
Ikeepforgettingmyusername8
Thank you. These fucking idiots. LMFAO
Ikeepforgettingmyusername8
Also crying a little.
cardboardunderwear
My point still stands though. There is more at stake than employment and the administration will be ruthless.
Secular
That's possible collateral bonus, but I honestly think the reason this occurred was so that he could put his current nomination in the post.
Specskankular
Draining the swamp.
CaptainSkyhawk
A swamp is a useful ecological structure. Trump et al. have been draining that stinky but important system and refilling it with toxic waste
Ikeepforgettingmyusername8
Why shouldn't all of these assholes lose their pensions like the rest of working America. Fuck the president and the FBI. No sympathy here.
knifefighterson
I feel you. Just to speak the other side, tho: a lot of gov't jobs aren't so cushy and the pension is the rainbow after the shit road.
cardboardunderwear
I agree with you here regarding pensions in general. They've pretty much disappeared in the private sector but not for govt jobs.
TheCrankyCow
you know a pension dose not vanish if you get fired, you would just get it for less years.
LeiLahDey
Scare tactics. He seems to be a pro.
Thatdudewiththegameblog
tbh, the idea that trump is harmless because he's an idiot isn't based in reality. There's more intention to his actions than he lets on
LeiLahDey
An idiot doesn’t get to be a billionaire.
cardboardunderwear
Dumb like a fox
The701
Trump serves Trump. That's it. Other people are simply resources he can exploit to serve his own ends. When they are no longer useful, they
Thatdudewiththegameblog
part of a plan, esp over Twitter. Everyone is so convinced by the theatre act but his actual actions are very grounded in fascism 2/2
The701
Yup, he's an effective manipulator. Lie when it suits you, especially if there is no real negative consequence to it, if it helps get those
Thatdudewiththegameblog
yeah I agree, I think his motives are simple, but there's more premeditation to his actions than it seems. I think even firing Pompeo was1/2
The701
are discarded.
trumpypumpyinyourrumpy
So he doesn’t get a pension? Why did trump fire him?
FEMAcampsarereal
Because the United States is now dumbfuck's personal plaything, and he doesn't play nice.
AgamemnonsMemes
Because he wasn't doing what trump wanted and trump is making a point that if you don't do what he wants, he can and will hurt you.
walterjb
He was investigated by the FBIs inspector general and FBIs OPM but recommended be be fired for lying.
clownfarts
He was involved in setting up the illegal FISA warrant to try to defame Trump.
khora
Because his wife ran as a democrat.
clownfarts
No because he perjured himself in front of congress and manufactured evidence for a warrant.
khora
Let's hope there is a prosecution then.
neoritter
He did something illegal.
nathanwooly
He didn’t do his job correctly. Withheld info about investigations.
nathanwooly
And he fired him the day before he retired.
TheGhostofCarrieFisher
There's more to it. And imgur isn't a site for political analysis, more like commentary.
MericanNightmare
To discredit the FBI in an effort to dismiss the Mueller investigation. Plus his wife donated to democrats, attacking political opponents
clownfarts
The FBI discredits itself.
MericanNightmare
Keep watching Fox, I'm sure it won't end in tears. /s
clownfarts
I don't own a TV. Good try tho kid. Keep looking for them Nazis behind every bush tho. LAARPing is a fun hobby.
MericanNightmare
You keep imagining those Sjws coming to take your racial slurs or whatever the fuck you think they do.
neoritter
His wife had been fundraising and running with Clinton contributions around when the email investigation that McCabe was apart was occurred.
FireBreathingStockBroker
I see conspiracy theories aren't just for republicans.
MericanNightmare
Just mostly.
MericanNightmare
while in power is apparently back in fashion.
OMFGWhatHaveWeDONE
My theory: Trump will blame/fire Sessions for the act. Then replace Sessions with some patsy that will fire Mueller.
DrKriegersClone
If he still wants sessions out, he'll probably find a more logical reason than blaming him for firing someone Trump wanted fired. Or just 1/
DrKriegersClone
2/ do it without giving a reason, which he can.
MericanNightmare
Ugh, you're probably right on this.
RPCd
But he celebrated it as a great day for democracy. What I don't understand is: how can sessions fire him, after he refused himself.
MericanNightmare
Recused* and that's a good question!
Rogor21
Trump didn’t fire him the DOJ fired him. He was removed from his duties by the FBI for lying to Congress.
ArcaneConjecture
And who controls the DoJ? C'mon, don't play dumb.
clownfarts
Doesn't matter, he still did what he did.
ArcaneConjecture
Did he? Where did he get due process?
clownfarts
Oh I see due process matter now huh? Prosecution is coming, don't worry. FYI, due process is for criminal conduct, not getting fired.
assbanditholocaust
By that logic you can wrongly say Obama pardoned Hillary by having the DOJ not prosecute her for illegally handling classified documents.
Danthefork
I think the difference would be if the, currently private, notes about his dealings end up showing pressure from trump to fire him.
Danthefork
No idea, if they do, but it would be fairly damn in at that point.
TakWriterOfWorlds
To be a dick, and send a message.
captainbigballs
Not true at all. Do some research as to why he was fired, you fucking retard.
TakWriterOfWorlds
That’s exactly why he was fired. He was hours from retirement, it’s a complete dick move.
MericanNightmare
I've done my research. If you're going to make a claim, make it, and provide a source. Maybe without ad hominem this time.
inyourheadunderyourskin
You can't actually fire someone on these grounds
FireBreathingStockBroker
Especially in government
MystiCaliKotta
You absolutely can.
inyourheadunderyourskin
Then its no big deal. Get off your high horse.
MystiCaliKotta
It being legal doesn’t make it ethical. And this was some petty shady shit.
inyourheadunderyourskin
No. Just no.
GiantRobotsRule
No, but the President can and just did. What's going to happen? Are Republicans in Congress going to hold him accountable? ha
inyourheadunderyourskin
If it's legal then what's the problem?
ThisIsNotANameItsASandwich
What a terrifying sentence to think about.
Tomadzo
He gets a greatly@reduced pension because he didn’t make it to his 50th birthday which is March 18th
seentoomuchdeath
Looks like a good court case for him.
neoritter
He could lose it all if he goes to court and Inspector General shows the judge what they have.
seentoomuchdeath
I understand he was to be fired but the President, typically, didn't allow that to happen, didn't focus on 1 error, but the man's career.
neoritter
Ignoring the veracity of any claims, if you were Trump, would you do that for a guy you think is in the pocket of the poor sport who lost?
KartFnocker
funny thing is he'll probably end up with more, since Trump is making the court case for him on twitter (plus hype for a giant book deal)
TheGhostofElizabethShue
If it were just to take his money it's a shitty move, it's about discrediting him as a witness and calling for an end to the investigation.
KartFnocker
Very good point
jforce
The FBI's own OPR ( Office of Professional Responsibility) recommended McCabe be fired.
imgurkinya
Exactly. This was not a Trump decision.
Patilistan
Then why did he go out of his way to mock the guy he ordered to be fired?
imgurkinya
Did you go "out of your way" to make this comment?
imgurkinya
And what did Trump supposedly do to mock him?
PlantainSuperNova
Because a DOJ run by Jeff Sessions is a highly reputable judge of character.
OMFGWhatHaveWeDONE
https://imgur.com/SoPe23v <- The OPR REPORTS to Sessions. Go read: https://www.justice.gov/opr
IProvideEncouragement
What next? Whataboutism? Or some other 'look at what Obama did!' -- Dude, this president is a a unprofessional fuckwit either way.
IProvideEncouragement
Ah, good old 'well ackshuley' where it doesn't belong. We're talking about Trump's bullying/threatening his enemies here.
YeahButIThinkIAteIt
Based on a report from Sessions' DOJ. And a rushed process where they singled McCabe out with Trump screaming on Twitter every week about it
questionableanswers
It's about killing his pension, not about due process. McFlynn is still getting his pension. A general turned into foreign agent.
questionableanswers
But he betrayed the american people, not Trump, so he is a good boy in Donnys book.
DukePhelan
You should rest your arms. That water you're carrying looks heavy.
YeahButIThinkIAteIt
It must also just be a massive coincidence that every single person that was a witness of Comey has been targeted with a smear campaign.
clownfarts
Really? But you are ok with a 2 year long smear campaign against anyone who ever set eyes on Trump?
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TraitorousTrump3
Clownfarts can’t handle facts.
TraitorousTrump3
Working with Russians will do that.
clownfarts
Still waiting for proof of that, but follow your dreams.
TraitorousTrump3
Guess what Papadopolous plead guilty to. Fucking moron. Sorry to confuse you with facts.
YeahButIThinkIAteIt
Hyperbole much? Those who met with Russians and then lied about those meetings repeatedly to the public were not 'smeared.' Those who 1/2
clownfarts
That is more than debatable, but for the sake of argument lets say you are right. That still leaves easily hundreds of others smeared.
YeahButIThinkIAteIt
That still leaves lots of hyperbole until you can come anywhere close to proving a two year campaign to smear hundreds of people. Prove it.
YeahButIThinkIAteIt
were acting as foreign agents and worked on Trump's campaign or in his administration were not smeared.
clownfarts
SO EVERYONE who got smeared were Russian agents? Give me a fucking break.
enybi
There's already evidence that the investigation was interfered with and pressured by Sessions, so any conclusion they reached is dubious.
PacoAlaTaco
Would still like some sauce. Not calling you out, just can't find any references to what you're talking about
PacoAlaTaco
sauce?
PlanataryFashitis
He's fired on the recommendation of the IG (FBI ethics) for things including pressuring agents to falsify sworn depositions. Hes a criminal.
PlanataryFashitis
Another thing- what is it with the FBI worship? They historically have a very bad track record and a long history of ethics scandals and 1
PlanataryFashitis
abuses of their power. Just because Comey has beef with Trump does not make them good guys, or heroes. A lot changed as I moved from 2
PlanataryFashitis
liberal to conservative, but I have never liked FBI or CIA, both are widely perceived as dedicated geniuses and are actually rather hapless.
Zipbang
"Lack of candor" isn't a crime as far as I know. Do you know of something else he did?
PlanataryFashitis
It's very serious when you're under oath at the time. Lies of omission count when you're giving sworn testimony.
Zipbang
Yes but, was it "sworn testimony"? Was it a lie of omission?
PlanataryFashitis
You know, I'm old enough to remember when liberals were deeply concerned about the culture of lies and dereliction in USG. You know-2007?
Zipbang
lies = / = lack of candor
PlanataryFashitis
"made an unauthorized disclosure to the news media and lacked candor, including under oath, on multiple occasions, according to Sessions."
Zipbang
" according to Sessions." I'll hold my judgment for the full report or a more credible source.
PlanataryFashitis
https://www.npr.org/2018/03/17/594610589/ex-fbi-agent-on-mccabe-firing-lack-of-candor-is-a-serious-offense
Zipbang
Notice how it doesn't say fireable office. I agree it may be serious but, the full report has yet to be released I believe.
PlanataryFashitis
The CNN analyst on NPR criticizing trumps tweets thinks this firing was plenty justified and not at all a concern. What do you want?
PlanataryFashitis
done by the AG based on the report of an Obama appointed IG, for a serious charge. This isn't political, this is a shithead getting got
MericanNightmare
This is from an incomplete report that he denies and is being corroborated by many others in and outside of the agency. Nice try though.
PlanataryFashitis
LOL, he was fired on the recommendation of IG Horowitz, who appointed to the position in 2012 by Obama and easily confirmed by the senate.
PlanataryFashitis
But he's one of those Obama era trump lackeys though, right? Oh, and Horowitz does have access to the full report. No research done. SAD!
MericanNightmare
I've heard the "recommendation" game from this administration before. Funny how Sessions initially said he did it for Trump, then retracted.
PlanataryFashitis
You expect the official report, when released, vindicates McCabe and demonstrates that the AG's official statement was completely falsified?
MericanNightmare
Probably. Yes. Knowing this administration, I wouldn't put it past them by a long shot.
HeyOP
You're trying to sell a high ranking member of the FBI as a bullying victim? OPR recommended he be fired for misleading investigators.
newsguycraigevans
Congratulations! You've fallen for the right wing propaganda. You should be ashamed. Go sit in the corner.
HeyOP
a) This post is literally propaganda. b) My initial source was wikipedia, which cites slate.com and CNN.
HeyOP
c) Congratulations! You've just dismissed a comment without bothering to evaluate it critically or do any research! You should be ashamed.
LitchLitch
Victims of bullying often are not "perfect", some of us were weird assholes who would piss off teachers and worse, we were still bullied.
chardlz
But if he wasn't doing his job well he should be fired. You can say the ridicule was "bullying" but to be fair, he's a grown man not a child
chardlz
Having his feelings hurt is secondary to doing his job if that's the claim against him
TakWriterOfWorlds
That’s not the claim though, the firing was because he supposedly talked to the press, even though it was his job to talk to the press.
LeiLahDey
If they would’ve let him retire on 3/18/18 as planned so he didn’t lose his 20 yrs of retirement planning resource. Not to mention Tweets.
HeyOP
1) The post is about him being bullied because he was criticized publicly, and specifically mentions him being fired without offering
HeyOP
2) the context that his termination was at the recommendation of the people whose responsibility it is to make sure the FBI doesn't behave
HeyOP
3) the way it has in the past. I can't say if I agree with their recommendation, but I can say using their recommendations to cry bullying
HeyOP
4) isn't exactly in the best interest of the population. He was a deputy director of the FBI. He'll land on his feet either way.
LeiLahDey
1. See your #1 to answer your #3&4. They can take recommendation and offer a different solution that wouldn’t be so damaging.
HeyOP
1) That doesn't address my 3 and 4 even slightly. "They could have gone lighter on him." Yeah, they could. And often, they have on others.
LeiLahDey
2. And public shaming to go with it??? Nothing to do with taking recommendation. Not to mention - landing on feet today doesn’t mean
OMFGWhatHaveWeDONE
Go read his full statement instead of listening to Fox's Commentary Infotainment.
HeyOP
1) I got that info about OPR from wikipedia's sources on it. The man was a deputy director of an internationally active law enforcement and
HeyOP
2) intelligence agency. He doesn't need you to stand up to "bullies" on his behalf, and if he's got a wrongful termination case he damn sure
HeyOP
3) should have the information and connections to follow through with it without any rabble rousing being necessary.
FlyingInABlueDream
I just wish Trump supporters would hold him to the same moral standard they apply to everyone else.
HeyOP
If that's directed at me, a) I'm not a Trump supporter, b) there's an investigation going on, if they get enough I'm sure they'll impeach.
LeiLahDey
Jobs where someone has dedicated 20 years they want to end relationship usually allow one to voluntarily retire (especially 1:?
HeyOP
This is a high ranking official in the FBI, not a manager of some retail store.
LeiLahDey
it is three days away). This was a power move and message. He could’ve been given a choice. My understanding is he had to wait until 2:?
OMFGWhatHaveWeDONE
Full statement: https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2018/03/andrew-mccabe-full-statement-everyone-should-read-it-3
HeyOP
You just accused me of solely listening to "fox infotainment" but then link mother jones?
KartFnocker
The statement is his exact words, just ignore the commentary...
HeyOP
And my statement was exactly how the man got fired. I'm pointing out the OP's hypocrisy, not saying he's falsely quoted.
LeiLahDey
So find your own source for his direct quote if that one offends you. Geez!
HeyOP
Not. The. Point. Try reading the whole thread critically.
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
They do that. They don't tend to grok what they're doing, too focused on assuming you're the "other side" to see it.
LeiLahDey
So funny how you are generalizing in your argument about Libs generalizing. Hypocrite much?
KartFnocker
lol at accusing someone of being too focused on "the 'other side'" while lumping everyone together with "they" this and "they" that
UncleVinny
We don't do anything about school bullies, why should we do something about the national bully?
SpaceballsTheComment
Just because you don't do anything about bullies doesn't mean you shouldn't.
rookiefdb
exactly, and he used bullying tactics to become president so how surprising is this really?
Feanor94
"Dont go to the white house tomorrow" "obama: thanks fam"
wonder89
Good point
BackInTheBox
It's a pyramid. The corruption starts from the top down.
UncleVinny
But you don't start building pyramids from the top first...
RaynWisp
I don't know what you're getting at... but I am certain you don't know how pyramids work...
Alvatore
It is, however, the way that pyramid schemes work. Which is what he was referring to.
Doomgriever
LeiLahDey
How about taking a step toward not bullying by leading by example? Simplest and effective way to help. Do you get it now??
UncleVinny
I understand the concept. It would be nice if our POTUS could comprehend it...
LeiLahDey
Agreed!!!!
Alvatore
It would be nice if Mr. Trump could comprehend a lot of things, but unfortunately reality doesn't seem to work that way.
maniacalmacaroni
Thankfully Melania is changing all that.
itsybitsyspider
"Dont' do" more like "can't really do." Trump has parents who deny he does anything wrong.
LitchLitch
So, you completely missed all the anti bullying laws, specials, and assemblies?
UncleVinny
I've also seen the "Don't do drugs" and the "Don't shoot people" ones too, yet kids continue to do these things in school. Do they work?
guacamolecereal
And the Anti-bully Picnic/Fundraiser?
guacamolecereal
/Awareness
OGsatan
100% of the time those do nothing
LitchLitch
Not true. Its far from perfectly effective but that doesnt mean the schools arent trying.
nattfilm
It doesn't matter if you don't enforce it though.
LitchLitch
There are a lot of detention slips that argue they are enforced
kythri
All a detention does is delay a bully.
UncleVinny
But does it stop those individuals from bulling again?
cyanideslushie
What do you want the schools to do, execute them? Conventional punishments aren’t effective and expulsion should be a last resort.
wagnus
We do take action against bullies though.
UncleVinny
Yea, by removing the kids who get bullied and sending them to a different school. Because it's totally their fault they get bullied...
whattasteslikepurple
No, not really. If they do anything, they send them to ISS which just makes them worse to the victim when they come back.
chyzburger
What universe do you live in? Do we also poop rainbows?
MericanNightmare
Just not the ones in power, apparently.
cheesenipper
You tell a teacher, they tell you to tell the principal. You tell they principal, they say they'll handle it. Spoiler alert: They don't.
derpderpmcderpinson
Maybe .00001% of the population does. Maybe.
LuffyFett
Unpopular opinion: plus with all the school shootings, the bullies have to really be careful on how far they go with the bullying.
Krakencrotch
lol
natmor
In what country? Certainly not the US or I wouldn't have thought about killing myself everyday for almost three years
AmateurCaulkRingEnthusiast
sorry to hear that. I hope things are better
KcKilla
Yep, we suspend and arrest kids for defending themselves.
wagnus
This assumption that everyone lets bullies do whatever is not a smart one. And I didn't say in the majority, but people do... Jesus
allegedlynerdy
Maybe if "defending themselves" is physically attacking someone who was only a verbal bully? You do that in real life and you get arrested
AmateurCaulkRingEnthusiast
lol thats not even close to the situation.
KcKilla
No, in American schools right now, if your kid is getting beat up and they hit back once, they are treated the same as their 1/2
KcKilla
attacker/bully, given the same school suspension, and now getting arrested due to draconian zero tolerance policies. 2/2
CoBr2
“Thoughts and prayers” is not taking action...
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CoBr2
I know, I was being sarcastic because I think in general we don’t do nearly enough until it’s way too late.