He was, without question, convicted 34 times by a jury of his peers of making corrupt payments to silence (essentially bribe) a porn star so as to influence a Presidential election, that he subsequently won. How the hell was he not instantly and forever completely banned from running for President after those convictions. It was legally proved in court that he corruptly influenced the 2016 US elections...no ifs, no buts. The US justice system is a complete and utter joke!
I wonder how that's going for him. Has he wasted more of the court's time trying to appeal a case where he's obviously guilty, or is he just pretending that never happened and threatening to fire anyone who brings it up?
They actually sat there and said "I think we should allow Trump to ask for his sentencing to be delayed. Sure we should do it immediately but what's the harm in waiting until after Election day? It's not like the Supreme Court will have enough time to decide if a President is immune to sentencing....."
So someone explained this to me like this: they found him guilty of the crimes. Had they given him a sentence, he would be able to appeal and that risks overturning the finding in the first court to “not guilty”. Now, since there was no punishment/sentence, they have nothing appeal (as there is no “adverse decision” to appeal), so he will forever be the president who was also a criminal. Still sucks, but yeh
I feel the thought process was "If we give him consequences he might do something bad, so lets give him no consequences because surely he has learned his lesson this time."
No in this case, they knew they would pardon himself, rendering any sentence void. (I don’t know if a pardon also cancels the charges, but it at least cancels the sentence). This way, the charges stay and there is non sentence to pardon.
How is that better though? And they had time before the election so him pardoning himself wasn't a certainty. But just saying "you're gonna not obey the punishment so we won't punish you but you'll still be technically guilty" is such a weird stance.
madvin
And Justice denied to apply it!!
FishieStardust
Yeah, I remember. Now it's just depressing. But here's some nostalgia to maybe get those endorphins going
Poppypoppoppop
Another reminder #bunkerbitch
tanebot
Rule of law, you say...?
CrispyNougat
And America was sentenced for his crimes
VelvetWarhol
rudiboy2000
How can 1 man and his dog cause so much hate, pain and suffering in such a short space of time?
Glimmar42
He was, without question, convicted 34 times by a jury of his peers of making corrupt payments to silence (essentially bribe) a porn star so as to influence a Presidential election, that he subsequently won. How the hell was he not instantly and forever completely banned from running for President after those convictions. It was legally proved in court that he corruptly influenced the 2016 US elections...no ifs, no buts. The US justice system is a complete and utter joke!
killergrooves85
He’s apparently terrified of Iran assassinating him. Plus half the country wishes he got his dome popped, so… That’s got to wear down your psyche.
iquestionthepinappleeveryday
Great, so we might get new recording technology?
labtob
doesn't seem to matter, though.
DemonDarakna
A woman of colour cannot be president. But a convict can be whatever he wants, even a president.
JustAbledus
Although people are welcome to attempt, it isn't.
DrKonrad
This should have been the end of it. They should have made him ineligible, to the very least. IMO they should have put him in jail for good measure
p7hk9
Teflon Don. Nothing sticks to him.
Shaodyn
And of course he plans to appeal. He always does whenever the court system doesn't give him what he wants.
Shaodyn
I wonder how that's going for him. Has he wasted more of the court's time trying to appeal a case where he's obviously guilty, or is he just pretending that never happened and threatening to fire anyone who brings it up?
howieCosmosJumper
75 million Americans still voted for this criminal, what does that say about Americans?
BobaFettApproves
That Covid wasn’t nearly deadly enough
RaxianTheta
that the gops war on education paid off huge for them.
cowgoesmoo1
and yet? Instead of being punished/imprisoned as he should have been, he's rewarded.
There's a whole different criminal justice system for the rich.
RichardNunez
andreik
Ol’ fart-sniffin’ NYT: check out the gravity of this headline!!! Now continue to watch us whitewash and downplay every batshit thing he’ll ever say.
crossingdynasty
It’s really easy to remember that Trump is a rapist when you see Macron having to literally pry Trumps orange claw off his knee.
gingerlady
He is chosen so the USA has to deal with aN old man with one foot in the grave.
ThatShiftyMonkey
And yet.... it made zero difference.
None at all.
Fuck this timeline.
ConstantBitRate
and a reminder of what a lot of us expected to follow the conviction:
cancelmorningsforever
I thought he got away with it and got his old job back
popaduke
ANYONE CAN BECOME PRESIDENT
dataengineer
Funny he wore blue ties each time so as to implicitly make people angrier at dems.
sparky2212
They stole the 2024 election.
Glimmar42
They also stole the 2016 election...but US joke 'justice' system.
darkomen203
And the cowards refused to punish him
SuperGeniusPS
doodlydoofus
They actually sat there and said "I think we should allow Trump to ask for his sentencing to be delayed. Sure we should do it immediately but what's the harm in waiting until after Election day? It's not like the Supreme Court will have enough time to decide if a President is immune to sentencing....."
misterCT
Exactly. It means nothing if there are no consequences.
aRootinaTootin
Yeah.
I wonder why he thinks he’s an untouchable king who gets away with whatever he wants…
sigmatis
Doesn't just think it.... SCOTUS made sure it IS so.
aRootinaTootin
Zeffner
So someone explained this to me like this: they found him guilty of the crimes. Had they given him a sentence, he would be able to appeal and that risks overturning the finding in the first court to “not guilty”. Now, since there was no punishment/sentence, they have nothing appeal (as there is no “adverse decision” to appeal), so he will forever be the president who was also a criminal. Still sucks, but yeh
DMSledge
I feel the thought process was "If we give him consequences he might do something bad, so lets give him no consequences because surely he has learned his lesson this time."
pork4brains
Which is stupid. Just more evidence of how broken & corrupt the US judicial system is
Ninjainslippers
So we just don't punish people if we think they might appeal? I'm no fancy big city lawyer, but that seems like insane logic to me.
kuglaq
Punish him
Zeffner
No in this case, they knew they would pardon himself, rendering any sentence void. (I don’t know if a pardon also cancels the charges, but it at least cancels the sentence). This way, the charges stay and there is non sentence to pardon.
Zeffner
They knew he*
Ninjainslippers
How is that better though? And they had time before the election so him pardoning himself wasn't a certainty. But just saying "you're gonna not obey the punishment so we won't punish you but you'll still be technically guilty" is such a weird stance.