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Nephus
Japan may be a work-a-holic state, but their CEOs actually make sense. They only do well when the company does well.
Like20Ninjas
Technically in Japan it didn't flop, but everywhere else in the world it did.
Midgarmerc
RIP Iwata
MenaceToSobriety
Bash it all you want, I love the Wii U.
Twichy
Could I get some RIP's in the chat for Iwata?
pravetz
Satoru Iwata. He got his start programming games for the Commodore VIC-20. An actual game developer.
techfreak243
RIP Iwata. You were a true legend in the gaming community. You will definitely be missed. :(
lifefeed
"Millennials are killing Nintendo"
totallyruinedyourday
RIP Iwata-san
PapaTimDankopus
Iwata was a fantastic man. Put his fucking name in the post dude.
soconn722
This man showed class and honor! If we would all show such responsibility!
ThisJoe
When our company struggled our CEO who earns 8m a year cut jobs to keep his salary the same.
TheAccursedHamster
Rest in peace Iwata, things may not have gone smoothly but you tried your damndest, and cared, more than we can say about most.
LordHosk
Most common response from people when asked about the wii U a year after launch. "I like my Wii, I don't want any new accessories for it"
0void00
He committed sudoku?
TrustedAdvisor
When Trump got elected he cut his salary 100% instead of blaming US voters.
laughswhentickled11
I love my wii u
igniteice
http://www.businessinsider.com/nintendos-ceo-will-halve-his-pay-after-profits-drop-2014-1
igniteice
Jan 29, 2014: The head of Nintendo said Wednesday he would slash his salary in half after announcing a 30 percent dive in nine-month profit
motherofgoddd
My kid loves his Wii U console!!!
Soujaofmisfortune
Most people who played it love it. Just not many people bought it to begin with. It was more a marketing failure than anything else.
Tchukkelz
Can we take the humility of Japan, the work ethic of Mexico, the innovation of Germany, and the money of the US and make a supercountry pls?
DarkUranium
So you're saying you have a final solution to the workplace problem?
MattDude
RIP Iwata-San
BerwynBrewyn
By workers you mean people who assemble them in a factory? Why would he blame them? Never heard of a CEO ever doing that.
gmdave
True, it's badly worded. More often, we're not sure who the CEO blames but clearly it's not themself because they give themselves bonuses.
Counterfit
Probably the designers and engineers.
Soujaofmisfortune
Workers means everyone who worked below him: designers, developers, engineers, marketers, sales, accountants, R&D, HR, managers, admin, etc.
ChefGavinB
That's the opposite of amerikan policy.. we have laws against that heresy
japh
Which laws? I'm unfamiliar with any like that.
StillNotYouTube
When the going gets tough, the bottom gets a pay cut and the top gets a 20% increase. At least that's how it works at my company.
DownwiththeSun
And then they tell you how lucky you are to still have a job at all
Darkspire
No vacations! He says, arriving from his two week vacation in Italy.
ChefGavinB
It was a business trip it@#@£
aboxacaraflatafan
Italy, while everyone else is just hoping they won't be penalized in two ways when they use theirs to visit their crappy in-laws.
Darkspire
Yup. I've seen them flip out about black out dates when a co worker was trying to visit an extremely sick relative. Absolute cunts.
HighestHorse
Why do they never name him? It's always just 'Nintendo CEO'. His name was Satoru Iwata and he passed away a few years back. RIP Mr. Iwata.
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gigaiDX
What's sad to me is that I was at a Nintendo play area trying new games on the weekend that Iwata died. He is a true inspiration to many.
unclestankstank
Japanese Mario Guy.
DoofyPoofy
Asian Italian Man
TZO2k15
Thanks for the info, you just earned the OP's up-vote!
OneNeoEon
I am not sure, maybe has something to do with that high profile "feminist" tweeting she was glad he is dead...
HighestHorse
What? You're telling me that the guy who made this image was influenced by a feminist who tweeted she was glad he died? Complete nonsense...
HighFunctioningAlcoholic
Nintendo CEO is easier to remember
darkladyvanstar
You do not realize mainstream would not remember the name?
jb32647
I still have the golden Iwata mii on my 3ds.
urustai
I still have the Iwata Mii on my 2ds.
lulose
I still have the Iwata Mii sticker on my 1ds.
deadknightdistrict8
Thank u.. R.I.P Satoru Iwata
ashmenon
http://pre07.deviantart.net/462f/th/pre/i/2015/193/3/8/thank_you_by_ruiberry-d912fde.jpg
autobottf10111
Damn, this hit me
Benmaks
Donkey Kong has no pants
Benmaks
mavruda
That is part of the Japanese culture. Single person does not matter. The whole thing is of importance. The company, not single man.
DukeDarkwood
And yet this single man took a huge pay cut for the sake of that company.
mavruda
That's part of the Japanese culture too. Responsibility lays on the shoulders of the leaders. He did what he had to. Not heroism in Japan.
aweff
He died because of Wii U?
sup3rk1r8y
It was mostly health problems, actually.
dokpsy
He did tend to pull long hours and neglect himself in favor of his work....
jhanked
Not really. Yes, he worked his ass off, but he missed an E3 due to illness a year before his death. No indication he put work over health.
dokpsy
I was under the impression that it was multiple factors partly due to his work habits that finally did him in
oglehole
Because the point of the story here is a ceo did something thoughtful and human
Ansatsunin
So, the old maxim of "give credit where it's due" means nothing to you, eh?
gmdave
Even more of a reason to mention his name.
HighestHorse
So either the sentence should say 'The CEO of Nintendo' or 'Nintendo CEO, Satoru Iwata'. Just saying 'Nintendo CEO' is nonsense.
sciencebasedlifeform
I already took my GMAT. I don't need to lurn this stuff no more....
ICheckUsernameAndSuch
Lol, you misspelled lern.
TwoPumpTrump
*lernt
stabstone
Calm down Tasty.
lysani
The newest season annoyed me so much. All that crap over an accident that they caused.
stabstone
Jerojero
I'm only a few episodes in and I'm already bored :( sucks because I reallllly liked this show
Jerojero
I'm only a few episodes in and I'm already bored :( sucks because I reallllly liked this show
pixelsnader
Because most people don't know who he is.
ICheckUsernameAndSuch
Super easy to say 'Nintendo CEO Satoru Iwata' though, and it would actually make the sentence flow better in this case.
pixelsnader
Oh as such. That's better, yes. I thought you meant 'When the wiiu bombed, Satoru Iwata cut his pay', which people wouldn't understand.
HighestHorse
"They didn't say his name because people dont know his name" So tell me again why his name shouldn't be in this image? Beyond stupid.
MeatTornado
His name was Robert Paulson... His name was Robert Paulson! HIS NAME WAS ROBERT PAULSON!!!
BlueDsc
His name was Satoru Iwata, and he was a Gamer.
gunnexx
Directly to our hearts
KoRplussomeletters
http://imgur.com/jB1tCoo
NinjaCongo
His name was Satoru Iwata.
Rockageddon
fucking metal
tiduszecht
thank you soooo much for that
SnorlaxTheFlash
;-;7
yelkcubnwahs
Yes
Goronhead
A lot of CEOs could try to say the same thing, and have it come off as fake. With Iwata, I actually believe it.
OhhhDrZaius
I'll never not look forward to taking off my suit after a day of trying to be professional. Booting up steam and smoking a bowl until sleep
BlueDsc
That's what happens when someone is as genuine as Iwata.
dokpsy
His history and track record definitely shows that he truly was a gamer at heart and his passion showed in his work
IhopeyougetstageIIIcoloncancer
In death, a CEO of Nintendo has a name. His name, was Satoru Iwata.
DoctorBambu
He was only 56? Fuck man, my dad is almost 56. Pls no
BlueDsc
Life can be cruel.
Muffyns
he died of cancer :c
SonOfABitchStoleMyLine
His name was Satoru Iwata
FUNR702
His name is Satoru Iwata
odraencoded
kare no na wa
Cyphereous
His name was Satoru Iwata!
psychologicaltrap
His name was Satarou Iwata
grootybooty
His name was Satarou Iwata
DostoevskyDisciple
so fricking awesome :,)
Masticause
The tribute to him in BOTW is amazing find, and when you understand it, it hits you in the feels
Eichimaru
Explain?
AsianScully
ah, never mind. Zelda :)
AsianScully
BOTW?
Masticause
Yes, Breath of the Wild
Cruxador
Oh, I read it as Ballad of the Whales, but that doesn't make sense without lasers.
JockstrapJones
Breath of the Wild?
jhanked
BOTW.
mzxrules
Bottom of the Well, the dungeon from Ocarina of Time
DystopianSurvivor
Where is it,I must know.
Masticause
https://youtu.be/Wl-kUa-ebGU
sup3rk1r8y
.
Muffyns
that beast is rather creepy
PhiIIipJFry
Very princess mononokey
MidiArbite
I can't make his spirit animal thing spawn, I saw it once, but had to do something else and it's never come back.
OfficialTerrorist
You'll see it glow up when it's there. Then just go to the shrine every now and then. Or campfire it up and wait a bunch.
Cerebralbore101
That was one of the best moments in the game. I didn't even know it was a tribute until later. God of the forest indeed.
ddrfr33k
Iwata was a great man. It's a shame he died so young...
iamalreadyaghost
Pulling shit like this showing other CEO's up. Probably associated
Matty3D
I think the word you're looking for is assassinated
iamalreadyaghost
Haha ha, oops
GTimgur
Under his leadership, Nintendo stopped making games for gamers and became an out of touch gimmick factory carried only and barely by >
GTimgur
raw creative energy, which was too often wasted. Hopefully it's coming around now. No offense to the man himself.
dietderpsy
Seppeku?
ladymondegreen
Cancer is too cruel a fate for too many wonderful souls.
Mulackokrieger
The good die young, but the best never die
villified
The real shame is that he didn't live long enough to see the amazing success of the Switch, which I'm sure he would be immensely proud
ATClouse
He was alive during the early stages of its development, but I bet he knew that it would be very successful.
Rockageddon
Patrick here: What's good about the switch? I don't keep up with things and live under a rock..
WoefulWombat
The controller design is pretty clever I think.
dokpsy
He would have been very pleased to say the least. This launch was on par with the Wii and game boy imo
Valkor
Honestly just picking a better name would've fixed everything.
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Valkor
gjm147
Iwata is difficult to remember.
PiGiSpi
I doubt that considering the NEW 3DS does just fine despite its infinitely more stupid name. Not to mention Xbox One. It was more than that
oglehole
And better marketing
DrMichaelMcQueeferton
I know. Who names their kid Nintendo CEO?
TheGlow
No, damn thing cant even play 1st party games at 30fps.
HighestHorse
New! From Nintendo! It's the Nintendo Swap! Is it a new console or just a revamped version of the Switch? Yes is it! Confused? Buy it!
IllCaesar
Not everything, no, but it absolutely would've helped.
CptKite
I think launching with core franchises like zelda pokemon smash n mario kart would be a better marketing move
RaddRadda
So... basically what they're doing on the Switch? Guess they learned well enough. Even if the Mario Kart is a port. Not many woulda played.
BlumpkinPie69
Did they run that name by focus groups or anything? As soon as I heard the name Wii U I knew it would bomb.
Nightcaste
Every time I hear "Wii U" I picture the one-boob chick from Kung Pow: Enter the Fist.
DukeDarkwood
Every time I hear "Wii U" I hear it as a siren. Wii-U-Wii-U-Wii-U-Wii-U!
Retsam19
Ehh, the WiiU's design was kinda awful. Trying to quickly switch between a screen in your hands and one across the room was awkward. (1/4)
DukeDarkwood
And yet, it would have been the perfect vehicle for a DS/3DS "player" (like the Super GameBoy for SNES, or the GBA Player for the 'Cube).
DukeDarkwood
It has the big screen, it has the tablet screen - and the tablet screen has a touch interface. BOOM. WHY DID THEY NOT DO THIS!?
Retsam19
And since there's only one tablet, any game with local (symmetrical) multiplayer can't rely on the tablet features. (2/4)
Retsam19
Motion controls are as gimmicky as ever and encouraged some bad control designs, even for classic games (e.g. Pikmin, Star Fox) (3/4)
Retsam19
And ultimately that there just weren't that many good games for the WiiU, a tiny fraction of what the other consoles got (4/4)
blazebot4200
I only played it for Mario kart, smash, and Mario party. It's the only party console IMO. But that's not enough to get good sales.
Ssssssssssss
Stopping with the goddamn gimmick consoles would be great, to be honest.
6675636b796f75
I agree. Probably never gonna get a switch given its price. I want a GameCube 2
PedestrianElectrobastard
Hear hear. Imagine if they did launch a GameCube 2 - I think the name alone would turn heads, though it would have some big shoes to fill.
MisterSausage
Nintendo would destroy Sony and MS if they made a traditional console like a GC2.
RaddRadda
The GameCube sold worse than the Xbox or PS2. No, a traditional console would not cause them to destroy Sony or MS.
DukeDarkwood
There is merit in tradition, but so to is there merit in trying new things. And, I think Nintendo doesn't want to be seen as a "follower" -
DukeDarkwood
doing things traditionally just because their competitors do.
10tacles
PSone was supposed to be a Nintendo console but Nintendo turned their backs to Sony and joined Phillips so Nintendo got the CD-i games
maaaaadness
I still have no idea what it was in relation to the Wii
padman531
It did use Wii remotes with the Wii U game pad...
KeeleonOhms
The U.
AlmightyDylon
Nothing. That was a big part of the problem. Many didn't buy it cause they thought it was a Wii upgrade. Bad marketing
leejaem1
or the customers are very superficial
AlmightyDylon
Not really. I consider myself a big gamer and I didn't know until well after release that it wasn't the same. Alot didn't.
ImSorryFriend
I just learned that from your comment. I thought it was a Sega-32X style thing. Not that that's what stopped me from buying it; I had a Wii.
ParanoidWithGoodCause
Nintedo's past poor behavior with third party developers and reliance on gimmicks lowers the number of games available for all their system
wyatt8740
Make the NES/SNES great again
Valkor
Yuuuup.
IronicUsername
Yeah but if those are the only issues, why did the original Wii do so well?
ParanoidWithGoodCause
because for once their gimmick was popular and worked fairly well. the best selling game being Wii sports a glorified tech demo
Ivain
from what I understood, they're REALLY loosening up for the Switch, meaning there'll be a crapload more third-party content available.
corvandus
But they have a stable of beloved IPs that perform extremely well, and they design their systems around those games.
ParanoidWithGoodCause
which essentially means the price of a nintendo game is $360
BlueDsc
TotallySaneScientist
This is missing the point, it's not that you need to buy a console, it's that you need to buy a proprietary console 1/#
XanderCorsaj
From NES through GameCube? Magic. Love(d) em all (Virtual Boy excepted!) They've gone down a different path, sadly
ImSorryFriend
I love you for knowing which of accepted/excepted goes in that phrase, you goddamn grammatical unicorn.
XanderCorsaj
Seems like some peeps don't share your love of wordy accuracy, chum. So have a +1 on me ;-)
laststrawberryrage
Wii U bombed....?!?!?!
shimmernshine
In quite a few ways. The biggest catastrophe was the last minute abandonment of the project by Tivo, but that doesn't get talked about.
Geodew
Not the first thing that bombed in Japan. Heyooooo
Cambino
Hard. Nobody knew what it was. Most people thought it was just the game pad that connected to the Wii instead of it being a new system.
SharkyMcSnarkface
Really? It seemed really obvious it was a new system to most of everyone I knew.
everettscott
The 'average consumer' is a moron.
OlanDyurai
The average consumer needs Darwinism.
MxWhiteKnight
Worst console release since the Saturn. Which was in the Ps1 times. Makes you think. At it's core it was WiiHD, most just got it for smash.
TobiOfTheAkatsuki
Smash and Splatoon. Splatoon was fantastic, and I'm so glad it's getting a sequel next month.
MxWhiteKnight
Splatoon was part of the weak launch it had. And most people where still skeptical. Smash 4 was what sold the console.
WhiteCollarOfficeJobs
Uhh, guy? Splatoon was released in 2015, three years after the Wii U first launched.
Ihavewaytoomanyfavoritestosort
13 million copies is pathetic by today's standards.
XanderCorsaj
Just ask Trump's last ejaculation
namiasdf
Well, he had to take a pay cut, to account for the loss in net revenue. Loss is loss.
PauLogic
All Nintendo fans accept that it bombed but we keep our faith I. Nintendo nevertheless because they deliver
ChickensAreGoodPets
Yeah the only people you see bringing it up all the time are Xbros and Pstrolls
DukeDarkwood
Because Nintendo doesn't shy away after a failure, retreating to "safe" measures. They get up, brush off the skinned knees, and try again.
Zyrin
Yep cant really think of a game that was bad on day one.
Groose
All consoles have a bad day 1 game. *points to knack* that does not make it a bad console
WhiteCollarOfficeJobs
KNACK IS BACK BAYBEE, KNACK IS BACK. IT'S A MASTAHPIECE.
Zyrin
Oh whoops ment from Nintendo. My Mistake
hurtar
Knack 2! Babbe
minabear
I have a WiiU and I love it.... just saying
OccamsShavingCream
There are dozens of us! Dozens!
VerticalInfinity
It reaches my bathroom. It's the greatest console I own.
TormentedPenguin
great system.. poor selection of games killed it. I use mine for streaming mostly
mialynneb
Yep, me too. I do love Yoshi's Wooly World though.
TheScarfyDoctor
Most people who own it do from what I hear. Just sold so badly...
ShadowForever
To be honest, me too. I might get a switch soon just because they stopped making games for the WiiU but I love the console all the same.
minabear
My SO and I talked about it for sure.
davisboy42
Hands down my favorite all time console
samb0ne
Yeah, me too Atari, Nintendo, then a Sega Genesis now that one was a kick in the nuts. I blinked and they stopped making games. x Box n Wii
Winterous
Honestly a fantastic console. The controllers especially are the best I've ever used.
ReallyWittyName
Same.
LenneSamunai
ive played over 1000hours on xenoblade chronicle x.... and more games. Wii U is awesome.. i love it too.
Kodaxmax
Wel thats good and all but you are a minority and for many good reasons
SolidusPliskin
Yeah I'll loving both of the available Wii u games as well
ContainsCaffine
Me too
lokitoki81
Same, its great, still have it, still use it. Zelda on Switch is the next level though... Holy shit its so good
peridotstar
I love mine too--use it every day and to watch youtube videos before I go to bed :3
CptKite
I love it but man did they bomb dropping games on it quickly
TerritorialRotbart
So do I!
Frankiejoneston
Yeah.. It's great at running Netflix. Sometimes.
LastParade
Same, but it's really just a dedicated Smash and Mario 64 machine
WhiteCollarOfficeJobs
More like a dedicated Zelda machine, actually. Nearly every Zelda title besides the DS games is available on it in some form or another.
Evococa
Which will receive no complaints from me, at least. :3
kantackistan
I think the DS games ARE on there, to be honest
WhiteCollarOfficeJobs
Holy shit you're right. I had no idea.
Ynigmatik
Well when you think about it WiiU is a Giant DS
Pabloblibli
HD video, great games, a shame that they didn't market it well.
Kodaxmax
Even now it doesnt have many great games, especially compared o its competitors
FireSt0rm9
Great games came mostly later, launch didn't have much.
PlantyThePlant
Guessing the Switch is gonna be the same story, although from what I've heard it has been doing better than the WiiU did.
Hiromagi
Switch so far has had 3 major games in 3 months. With more on the way this year. So I guess that's not really a problem.
Hiromagi
Granted, 2 of those are also on WiiU.
Pawnderlust
Games playable without a tv. Kids could watch YouTube or Netflix in it
meganownsu
What great games are you talking about? I only have two, Zelda and Mario kart. I've never found another game that looked fun on the Wii u
amyrose
Smash Brothers, even if it was a reboot of Brawl
EarthDragon2189
Mario 3D World, DK Tropical Freeze, Smash Bros, Bayonetta 2, ZombiU. Fully backwards compatible and a great retro library.
Djehuty
Not to mention with easy modding you can play every game from NES and up for free, save for N64 which is limited to virtual console titles.
armeggedonCounselor
It's not bad, and as an additional console alongside another one, it's a good option, but the third party library on it kind of sucks. Also,
armeggedonCounselor
they did a terrible job marketing it. I blame the name - Wii U sounds like it's a peripheral or something for the Wii, not a new console.
bobtheaxolotl
The marketing did suck. But, Nintendo hasn't had real third party support since the days of the SNES. First party is where they shine.
6675636b796f75
I blame the controller too. It really raised the price for the console, and was totally gimmicky.
bobtheaxolotl
The controller works fine. The Switch is just a logical extension, making it properly mobile, and gives more control options.
armeggedonCounselor
It was gimmicky, but gimmicky isn't the same as bad. Motion controls were "gimmicky" when they were new, and when they're done well, they're
armeggedonCounselor
great. The Wii U Gamepad is similar - a dual screen concept is a great idea - look at the success of the DS. But a lot of games didn't use
netman12
This is popular among Japanese CEOs bc of Japan work ethic happens all the time. Still wish America would learn a lesson tho
Mangomancer
in America the CEO blames the workers, fires a few and then takes a bonus.
Anatoos
"America learning a lesson" is an antithesis.
thenoblitt
Nah you think they would cut there 50 million dollar a year salary?
FartedWhileMakingUpName
If something like this were to fail here they'd fire the CEO and give him a $30mil severence.
DianNaoChong
Their country is hurting for their work ethic atm. I dont want a work culture that expects us to sleep under our cubicles and get no credit.
DianNaoChong
There's a reason old game credits have pseudonyms instead of peoples names. Corp's did that to stop cherry picking of their workers.
humaneffigy
Work ethic is for poor people.
Mooki
American. Work. Ethics. Pick two.
KeeleonOhms
The CEOs pay should be a literal reflection of the companys success.
TheFastpaws
Konami and a few others would like a word with you....
newsguycraigevans
The philosophy in the US is usually "Fuck you, I got mine"
LikeTotallyNotTheNSA
or "fuck you, pay me"
BDBones
Is this true? Would it be intelligent for hard workers to go there for financial stability?
ASecondChance
yup https://blogs.wsj.com/japanrealtime/2012/06/27/sonys-welcome-for-new-ceo-forget-your-bonus-heres-a-pay-cut/
imnotinprisonhidingaphoneinmybutt
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ASecondChance
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/sony-ceo-to-take-up-to-a-50-percent-pay-cut/1100-6419595/
Hybris51129
Sadly actual work ethic is too often ridiculed by society and abused by companies. That said at least we aren't as bad as most of Europe.
rgzdev
How's Europe's?
maku1407
europe is zero care whatsoever for employees, demanding overtime all the time and only paying you a third of what you are contractually owed
rgzdev
FUCK DAMN! Is this true? No wonder the EU is dying.
maku1407
Yeah I have worked at 3 different large companies in the past yeah and a half, had this problem a each one.
Rivalyn
I've seen a number of things that flat out accuse America of having the worst work environment AND the worst work ethic because of it.
proxibomb
I'd kill to have a crazy work life over a work life that's more or less like a game of King of The Hill on TF2. Squeakers included.
rgzdev
You talking shit of TF2? Fite me bro, Eyeduct 24/7
AntiquesDragon
Makes sense. Hard to be motivated when going above and beyond will cause your work load to double and pay to remain the same.
NihonJinLover
All goes back to greed (by the company), does it?
TylerTheAnarchist
Actually happens a lot in america too but most larger companies have bylaws that stop the CEO from ever doing this. (eg CEO of Intel)
sumowoman
"Me first, fuck everyone else" wouldn't work in Japan. And the Japanese way wouldn't work in US. Such is life.
WhoReadsPeoplesUsernamesAnyway
very true and wise
Wyndynwyre
Its not "either or". There are practices and ideals we can admire and share on both sides without dismantling whole systems
monochrony
"I just farted." Such is life.
sumowoman
Or even sharted. It happens.
NihonJinLover
Hard to have sympathy for a company like say ford who has to shut down a plant yet the CEO is making $18mil
EADimgur
I mean to be fair a lot of the manufacturing in the states is being shipped abroad because its astronomically cheaper (and nobody unionizes)
DaisukeAramaki
That kinda makes it sound like we just don't want to unionize. It's difficult in the extreme these days in many states.
EADimgur
Well that's because now (definitely wasn't always though) a majority of Unions are horribly corrupt, often forcing companies out of the area
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
Wait why would those up top accepting they fucked up not work in the usa?
SharkyMcSnarkface
Because: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXDwIo5_AMo
LawnPygmy
+1 for Tom and Jerry Movie.
DostoevskyDisciple
+1 for the perfectly summoning it up
DownwiththeSun
Because it is easier (and culturally normal) to throw everyone underneath you under the bus instead. "Shit rolls downhill" as they say
The701
Company does good: "It's my excellent leadership." Company does bad: "Damn lazy workers."
EndersGameofThrones
Also, law suits. In the US anyone can sue anyone else. Admitting wrong doing weakens the corporation's stance in court.
blimpmode
On the other hand, working life in Japan is absolutely miserable compared to America
Radix865
But at least in Japan, everyone is miserable.
Soujaofmisfortune
We're doing our damnedest to catch up.
warriorofdiscord
Wonder if that has anything to do with the first point made. (Hint: it does)
the1whoknocksssssss
explain?
lilchan16
they have a higher standard of work ethics and Americans are not used to having that concept incorporated in main society to work harder
warriorofdiscord
You sound like you're a spectator making commentary as if you've participated. You don't know much about work here in America, it seems.
warriorofdiscord
Japanese society places extreme emphasis on having a strong work ethic, so many males work themselves to literal death. It's kind of sad tbh
AluminumMuffin
They even have a word for suicide by overwork, can't remember what it was though
ShisuiEE
People work themselves to death. Some end their lives at by their own accord because of how work is. You are born to work, then to die.
rgzdev
Also their hourly productivity is not that great. Their work ethic is admirable, but bad.
Tunisia
Working life in America is absolutely miserable compared to Western Europe.
AzgarOgly
Working life in Western Europe is kinda crap compared to Northern Europe.
TheGenuineArticle
Working in Northern Europe is kinda crap compared to Eastern Europe.
ArdentSlacker
I feel like this is building towards finding the one person with a nice job who isn't also an asshole.
AzgarOgly
Well, here I would disagree. Being myself in a North-East of EU :)
MericanNightmare
Is it? Why do we have less vacation time than even them? That's my question buckaroo.
CallMeRif
Im actually wanted to work there, can you elaborate?
NihonJinLover
There may be no perfect system but Japanese company is like parent, worker is like child. Worker doesn't get fired unless they seriously 1
sakurawell
Same. My work is like family. I've made some huge mistakes that my VP took the fall for. It makes you wanna show up and give 200% for them.
NihonJinLover
Not all Japanese bosses are like that. My husband has had some shitty bosses working as a Japanese business man in the US. Everyone has a 1
NihonJinLover
Diff personality I guess. But I would hope that if you're dedicating your life to a company that they would help protect you
NihonJinLover
Fuck up. Company dedicated to worker, worker dedicated to company. Family life comes second. Source-I am American female w Japanese hubby
EndersGameofThrones
Username checks out.
RiniKitty
I guess I'm really lucky..been living in Japan for 10 years and my job is awesome. But there definately are bad companies everywhere really
spaddo
What do you do out of curiosity? I was considering English teaching over there in the future.
RiniKitty
I am actually a English teacher! I work in a different atmosphere than typical foreign teachers though.
SephiRothIRA
*Out of curiosity, what do you do? I was considering teaching English there in the future.
spaddo
Can't argue with that. Cuff me, boys.
AzgarOgly
Still better than average Japaneese English, though.
EndersGameofThrones
Really? All of my Japanese friends say Americans work too much and too hard, like Japan used to before they burned out on it.
ComfortMisha
I've been living in Japan for a long time and that couldn't be further from the truth. Everyone here works too hard and they hate it.
ComfortMisha
Overtime in many companies (including a previous company of mine) is both required and unpaid. The government introduced laws limiting
ComfortMisha
Overtime work to 60 hours a month, yet people still work over 100. Why only last season I had a late train because of a suicide on that line