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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Padian
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SaganIsMyLordAndSavior
ReallyGoodBee
Real beats CGI every time. LotR:![]()
ollie2020
notquitebilbobaggins
Did Kevin Padian really work on Jurassic Park? I looked it up on wikipedia and the credited Paleontologist was Jack Horner.
DrSharkbite
Cravanicus
https://youtu.be/QWy_zcmopoQ
FishSausages
I blame Phil
Odmanra
That is epic. He replied!
bigmee
I tried clicking this like an idiot...
kittyclawz
Why was it more dangerous for the power to turn OFF with the guy inside the TRex??
SchrodingersDictator
Everything relaxes. Hydraulics were holding up the head and such. Turn that off and everything goes back to resting. With so much weight...
kittyclawz
Ahhh I see. Thank you.
DoughnutJimmy
"Uh, they're flocking this way"........that was CGI, and fucking top stuff it was too.
OrionRed
Also, the computer did the CGI that WAS in the movie ended up doing South Park. Matt and Trey bought it.
Ziyousansz
The velociraptor size discrepancy has a lot to do with knowledge from the original book's publication date - at that time, the name 1/
Ziyousansz
Velociraptor was also used for velociraptor antirrhopus, which is better known now as deinonychus.
KaminoNeko
Nnnot quite. Deinonychus antirrhopus was named in the 60s. Some paleontologists, including the one Crichton consulted, considered it a/
KaminoNeko
species of Velociraptor, but that was by no means the consensus.
Ziyousansz
Ah, gotcha.
PeccableTiming
He means 2 meter not 2ft
Frogapus
Practical effects are the best effects. Compare the visuals on Hellboy 2 to Avatar and see which one looks better after 10 years.
Mercenarity
Both of those movies look decent to me, but I'm a sucker for fantastical landscapes.
Frogapus
True, but I think one of them has aged a lot better.
Mercenarity
I derive as much enjoyment from watching Captain Kirk fistfight a lizardman, so I guess "holding up" isn't a huge priority of mine.
Frogapus
That's a totally respectable way to be. Rock on, you. ^_^
goodguyC
I think Avatar holds up really well tbh... But it was also the first and last movie that really nailed 3D!!
Breezier
@ the last bit, The JP raptors are actually Deinonychus, Velociraptors were only about half a meter tall at the hip.
Stevemandudeguy
Fun fact if you're a Tool fan: their guitarist Adam Jones worked on the JP SFX team.
Cravanicus
Helluva baseball player too!
Bambi577
Saying “most if not all” were practical is a huge exaggeration. The gallimimus were 100% CG as well as the Rex and raptors at most points.
Bambi577
Not to mention LITERALLY every dinosaur they see in that herd when they first get to the park.
ProphetTenebrae
The velociraptors were GUYS IN FUCKING SUITS?! My whole life is a lie - excuse me while I go get permanently brain drunk to handle this.
madbydesign
Not really. They hand life-sized puppets, and they had velociraptor legs that puppeteers wore on their feet.
Pokegeologist
The red sneakers make them look like the most realistic Yoshi cosplay I've ever seen. Just mount a red saddle.
BojanglesTheFlyingCar
Not all of them. You can tell when they're cg and when they're fully present in the scene
Corrodias
The ones jumping around and being killed by the t-rex at the end probably aren't guys in suits, I'm guessing.
manveti
At least that explains how they can open doors
Roserapaine
One thing not mentioned is that the scene where the Trex broke through the Jeep wasn't supposed to happen.their screams of terror were real.
madbydesign
Oversimplification of the effects. There was a LOT of groundbreaking CGI in that film: it was originally supposed to be stop-motion models…
MostlyJeffGoldblum
Didn't ILM spawn as a result of jursassic park?
madbydesign
No. Lucas started ILM back in the 70s to do the VFX for Star Wars.
triscuit3000
yeah that comment about "most if not all" being practical. no don't get it twisted, there was CG in that movie too. it was just done right.
Meloncov
There was absolutely groundbreaking CGI, but not a lot of it. Less than four minutes of footage.
madbydesign
Practical Dino’s only appeared in ~14 minutes.
Fanible
I do think traditional effects are the way to go, but the CGI is probably the most dumbfounding that it was done back in 1993.
madbydesign
… of little puppets animated one frame at a time. Computers killed it when ILM did a 10 second pre-viz of a T-Rex waking in a field.
madbydesign
The producers were gobsmacked at the smoothness and realism achieved. They even created the DID- the dinosaur input device (later called…
madbydesign
The direct input device: it was a metal skeleton armature that allowed stop-motion animators keyframe movements directly into the PC…
madbydesign
Without needing to learn computer animation. The results speak for themselves.
SpreadyUnsettling
A lot of it also had to do with the compositing of the CG. For example, they made little plops in the water for when the CG T-Rex was
LikeTotallyNotTheNSA
Weren't the skin textures sculpted by hand and then scanned for other scenes.
chefsoda
Spielberg wanted, and got, 2 meter raptors, not 2 foot. He said the smaller ones wouldn’t be frightening enough.
CelestialDancerChick
I have 14 dinosaurs. The two largest are my quaker parrot t-rexes. But my favorite is my green cheek conure velicoraptor.
shutupjennifer
My dinosaur is the sun conuresaurus. I never knew I could love something so much before her.
Rifneno
Nice. I only have one dino, an umbrella 'too, but she makes the noise of a dozen. I planned to get a greenwing macaw, but I was window
CelestialDancerChick
It's been years since I've been in a pet store. Can't stand it. All my babies are rescues w/special needs.
Rifneno
shopping at a pet store and this 'too picked me. Seriously. I can't go window shopping at pet stores anymore. =/
CelestialDancerChick
If you're set on the macaw, start exploring the interwebs for reputable breeders. You may have to drive a far distance, to pick up 1/2
CelestialDancerChick
your new baby. But it'll be worth it. Reputable breeders are the best way to go.
thedissident
They also embellished the Dilophosaurus, it was never confirmed to split venom.
Fileas
I don't think they spit venom. Maybe stomach acid? Maybe they had a saliva like the Komodo dragon have.
GCRust
Yeah but it was never confirmed to NOT spit venom. Eh? EH?
Dagordae
Yes it was. There are tells on the bone structure for venom sacs and the necessary musculature for venom spitting. Dilos don't have them.
minant
I think that was in the original novel, though.
chilachinchila
Yeah, it was there too.
wraithsonwings
If you look it up Spielberg did this on purpose. I wanted something that resembled a cobra.
Dagordae
It was also 6 meters long and didn't have the big frill. They were not interested in making accurate dinosaurs, merely interesting ones.
DrKriegerIsMySpiritAnimal
The original was Sci-Fi horror, and the new ones just didn't capture that. They followed the new formula for films, and I hate them.
RElGNMAN
I started and received my AS in Biotechnology because of this movie, yeah I wanted to make an actual Dinosaur.
VizenFatale
And an example of CGI that stands the test of time is Robert Patrick melting through the bars of the mental hospital in T2: Judgement Day.
DarkBadTheShameless
Fuck yeah. STILL looks great :)
brickkpunchley
2001: A Space Odyssey was filmed in 1968 I think, and there are movies today that don't look as good (okay, except the gorillas).
boatymcboatfaceplant
For me there were 3 groundbreaking movies as far as effects go....JP, T2 and the Matrix.
dancfontaine
The Mask lol
ExcuseMe2
WETA digital literally revolutionized computer graphics, for LOTR.
VictusVonGuyver
Star Wars franchise, Tron, Blade Runner, Young Sherlock Holmes, and Matrix are all movies that changed the visual media with special effects
ExcuseMe2
I honestly think that ILM and Weta have the largest impact.
TheGriffin
Starship Troopers
LupusLilium
Only one comment about Starship Troopers, I'm disappointed in people. ST IMO holds up much better in terms of effects.
TheGriffin
Seriously the arachnids are still are amazing effects. It's hard to tell when it goes from VFX to practical and it ages so well
TacoRising
To be fair, the majority of the T Rex scenes, like the chase and visitor center stuff, were indeed CGI, and it's pretty obvious too.
TacoRising
Regardless, JP is still one of my favorite movies of all time.
TheThingsTheyCarried
Yep. The bits that were done with CG have not aged well. Amazing through the end of the 90s, but nothing compared to quality CG since 2000.
babybirdhome
I dunno why you were downvoted. Those scenes were incredible back then, but today they're "ewww!" CG has gotten a WHOLE lot better!
Rifneno
The only part that HAS aged well is Rexy - in the rain - in the dark. LOTS of obscuring to hide flaws.
EpicPancakes
A lot of the CG actually does hold up pretty well. It looks more like it's from 2003 than 1993 though.
TheThingsTheyCarried
Don't believe me? Compare the brachiosaurus to the nazgul from LOTR.
TacoRising
They could probably do a rerelease with updated special effects for the modern age but honestly I think the movie is perfect how it is.
ExcuseMe2
LOTR is the only trilogy of films that to me, has held up incredibly well when compared to anything else from the time...early 2000s.
KarlHeinrichUlrichs
Look up Phil Tippett, who was one of the big VFX guys on Jurassic Park. He has had an amazing career.
TheGriffin
He pissed off the palentologists. Phil wanted to give the raptors snake tongues
IamAlduinTheWorldEaterAndThisIsMyFavouriteShopInMundus
He also did a lot of the design work on Draco (Dragonheart).
TheDapperDilo
Love that movie
notthedevilipromise
GODDAMIT PHIL WE HAD RAPTORS IN THE KITCHEN
ChampagneThursday
Oh, we know all about Mr. Tippett’s failure...
Retrobution
God damn Phil Tippett, the dinosaur Wrangler. Dinosaurs got all up in the park Phil! People died!
DelightfullyOdd
YOU HAD ONE JOB!
MaladaptedMedic
He's one of the greatest SFX guys to have ever worked in film. Robocop, Indiana Jones, Star Wars, Starship Troopers are all SFX masterworks
AndKnowingIsHalfTheBattle
People died, Phil....
youhavetobeoddtobenumberone
Didn't do such a great job supervising though... Raptors in the kitchen, Phil. In the goddamned kitchen.
5yroldadvisor
You had one job, Phil! ONE JOB
Mechwarrior719
Dear Mr. Tippet: don't bother coming into work Monday. Sincerely John Hammond P.S. honestly, Phil, raptors... In the frikken kitchen.
TheMortiestMortyfromC137
LateNightBunnyParty
Fun tidbit: Adam Jones from the band Tool was also on the FX team!
Thewayofthebear
I was about to comment that. You can see him working in the background of the making of feature.
TheDapperDilo
And Terminator
LateNightBunnyParty
And Ghostbusters II.
LateNightBunnyParty
And Predator 2, and Batman Returns, and Edward Scissorhands...
alexjonesisagayfrog
Just stop the misinformation that is in here they weren’t utahraptors they were deinonychus
MycolTheFunguy
Also they used crichtons descriptions of dilophosaurus not archaeologists best representation. Real dilo could reach 23 feet long. 1/2
MycolTheFunguy
and had no frill around their neck either. Also no evidence they were poinsonous and the filmakers took liberties as chrichton describes 2/3
MycolTheFunguy
The "venom" as a psychoactive substance meant to pacify its victims for capture not blind them 3/3.
MycolTheFunguy
Crichton also describes some of the dinos as chameleon like which makes them even scarier if you ask me, but didnt show uo until world.
bbirbb
You're right and wrong at the same time. When they were first discovered, all of the dronaeosaurs were generally reffered to as 1/
bbirbb
Velociraptor, and even now, it's technically not wrong to call Deinonychus Velociraptor (Velociraptor antirrhopus). I believe this was 2/
bbirbb
specifically addressed in the first book (foreword possibly) though it's been a while since I read it. Also, I misspelled dromaeosaur.
OneUglyMuthaFukka
Deinonychus was smaller than the Raptors used in the film. Spielberg wanted bigger Raptors, and during production the Utahraptor was (1)
OneUglyMuthaFukka
discovered, basically legitimizing Spielberg's desire for larger Raptors.
Dagordae
They weren't anything. They were invented for the books because Crichton was far more interested in a story than realism. Most of his dinos
Dagordae
were massively unrealistic. The deinonychus claim was fans trying to make it more realistic than it actually was.
TheDudeSkywalker
Utahraptors were discovered during the production that matched closer to the screen used dinos. I watched an interview with Jim Kirkland 1/2
TheDudeSkywalker
That explains the discoveries.
UnemployedInGreenland
Yep. And before being officially named Utahraptor, the guys who found the remains nicknamed it “Spielberg’s Raptor.”
JugOfVoodoo
Which inspired the novel "Raptor Red" by Robert T. Bakker. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raptor_Red
Mercenarity
Whoah, I remember that book. I have the paperback with the hologram cover stored somewhere.
DcynQuez
I’ve got one with the same cover. Reread it last year. Loved the book as a kid (mostly for the cover & art) and it’s still a great read now.
AlmostCertainlyNotPickles
I just learned a lot
buttshredder
This is all at best half-truths. It's tumblr, they embellish everything to hype each other up.
StonesTwice
Me too
ItIsILiterallyTheLeastQualifiedPersonToHelp
Me three
NotTheMamaNotTheMama
Me four?
amorgan1
Raptors wearing tennis shoes is my new favorite thing.
RElGNMAN
ThePedro8161
I love the bird in the background.
Pabloinkassoh
You just got learnt.
lovestohate
Theres a great book called Raptor Red. It's about "Spielberg's giant raptors" called Utahraptors that were found in a dig after the movie
JYpictures
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4J9TBlFxAg
kojenk
still find it physically repulsive that such MIND BLOWING practical effects were created for The Thing prequel but they went with shitty CGI
Sommelo
The Thing is the most disgusting film I've seen. Then I saw clips of the prequel and never felt like even trying to watch it.
kojenk
It could have been horrifying repulsive had they gone with the practical effects initially made. Pulsating nodules, etc. the works.
kojenk
Instead we got something The Mummy looked better than despite being years older
qwijybo
TapToRetry
I learned and pooped a lot
Strongharbour432
Yep
clubfootjohnnyjohnson54
And some of it may be true!
spacedrgn
I learned two lots
Rin007
There was also a video of chickens with taped on plungers or something like that to stimulate the long tails of dinosaurs. Surprisingly eery
Squaroar
How dare you tease us and not link the video.
jrntn
A lot of it is a lie though. They had a lot of animatronics, yes, but most of their dinosaurs were really just CG.
AlmostCertainlyNotPickles
The true truth is that they used actual dinosaurs
Killertomato84
I was that kid who loved JP way too much, and had every action figure and toy t they ever released. I could build Jurassic Park 100%
CamelWides6
Same..
BahamutBBob
So, your parents spared no expense?
Killertomato84
RoseTheSpecialEdTeacher
Not gonna lie. I practiced for hours to be able to roar like the T-rex through a sustained gutteral groan thing. Idk how indid it, but I did
hyaenidae
I collected everything, then watched the film and was so scared by it, parents had to take it all away. 6 year old me was a pussy.
RobertNAdams
You may enjoy Parkasaurus when it comes out.
CountessVonFingerbang
As kids, we made ID tags and made like... innate backstories for our characters (I was the niece of Alan Grant) with full academic credits
CountessVonFingerbang
We played this game for LITERALLY YEARS. With each friend playing their own character when they came around.
CountessVonFingerbang
There were rules about who could and couldn't go into which section of the "park" or access different terminals in an emergency.
CountessVonFingerbang
Just, uh. We also really liked JP.
FluentPenguin
THIS IS HOW IT STARTS
BatmansUnderPantsAreSoSoft
I got the dude on the motorcycle that could explode into pieces and the jeep with the side net that had "damage" pieces that could come off.
mugglemoron
My fiancé was the same way!
27yoUGLYvirgin
I was that kid that never got any of these popular toys.
vegemitesandwich
Did you have the Dino compound with the fence that attached with the big gate at the end? My favorite toy, had the little jeep and explorer
Threns
Nope couple of friends did though and I provided a chunk of wildlife for them, 2 raptors, 2 flavors of t-rex and a dilophosaur.
Threns
Oh, and 3 compies.
Killertomato84
That I did!
hopethisoneworks
If you haven't read the book yet do it. Make sure to read ian malcom with goldblum voice
CountessVonFingerbang
Book Ian Malcolm was my first literary crush.
MidnightShouldNotBeSoLovely
MINE TOO
Killertomato84
I have. My dad got me the book after I made him sit through the movie around a thousand times
hopethisoneworks
I randomly pulled it off the shelf in 8th grade (it had a big dinosaur on it why not try) One of those books that got me into reading more
ProphetTenebrae
I hear there's a game that lets you do just that.
Kehy
two games actually
LastElf
And it's actually really good. Like you don't know it's a movie tie in game good
causality
Does it have a mod yet that changes the color scheme to jurassic park instead of that hideous jurassic world blue/silver?
LivingThing
Have you tried operation Genesis? It came before Jurassic world evolution and imo it's quite better
causality
Not sure if I should emulate the PS2 version or try to get the windows version running.
CorvusSolus
Name?
Svartlebee
Jurassic Park Operation Genesis. It's better than evolution.
cardboardwhales
Jurassic world evolution
Danishlmgurian
I have to say, I was disappointed with the size of the last island. Biggest on the map, except for that mountain they didn't mention.
straikychan
Was that elaborate sarcasm or is it actually worth a buy?
ProphetTenebrae
I've honestly not played it but the general opinion seems positive.
LastElf
My comment was genuine. Same devs that made Planet Coaster