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ShieldAnvil1
We can't ban guns it won't sop gun deaths!!!.......... Proceeds to ban abortions.
dragonraven13
America is so weird.
bigk001
Republicans would trade their kids for guns if they could.
Gibleteousjack
Can't get a text at the school my kid goes to because all devices go into magnetically sealed bags all day. Checkmate, Atheists? /S
EllisHobbs
kerms
"automatic rifle"
UsertubeBandwagon
being scared to have children is not a reason to not have children. We are a species that learns from our own history. When folks like you who see the truth in the world dont wanna have kids, it leaves the blinded ones raising our next gen.
AllHailYourOneTrueOverlord
This is why republicans are trying to force people to have children... they know so many people see the state of America and have nopped the fuck right out of the child idea a long time ago.
zakisback
Lonely future...
IrrelevantIrrelevant
Until Healthcare, childcare, and gun control are all properly addressed and filed away like a proper first world country, the simple fact of the matter is that America doesn't want children, they want slaves. And I steadfastly refuse to participate in slavery.
keillrandor
*Children or wives. Or anyone who isn't white. Or 'Christian-ist'. Or isn't rich.
friendsofsandwiches
problem is, haven't the repubs taken over the upside down american flag meme?
funkybrewster
It means this vessel is in danger. The problem is they mean it in the “a black actually became president” and “trans people exist” sense.
sleeperkid
They can try to adopt it all they want, but it still means what it means...regardless of that shit.
Our country (and the children who live in it) are in extreme danger.
nclu
Unironically, when we do it it's good and when they do it it's bad. It's a sign of distress and we're worried about the safety of children and when they do it it's because they want to peek in those kids' pants. Fuck 'em
giraffpappa
I would recommend moving to the free world if you want to have kids.
algavinn
That was ways my thought: I want kids but I don't want them to have to live here.
gluttonygreedpridewrathslothlustenvy
I recommend moving to the free world regardless of your personal desire to have kids or not. It's great here either way.
scoutMoonDiver
abortedfetusnecropheliac
Land of the owned, home of the owners
koops
Burke616
Hey, is this some of that "grooming" y'all are worried about?
Ekibwurm
this is so fucked up.... he's at the age he should be learning how to ride a bike not drop bodies...
rezexelon
As a parent I agree. But at the same time, it was not an automatic rifle. This matters because if you're going to try to make the case to the people that are looking for any excuse to NOT make changes, you don't want to give them that out that you can't talk with the right terms.
malbec
100% agreed. You MUST speak the same language or it’s assumed you don’t know what you’re talking about on ANY point.
Burke616
When the law is on your side, you pound on the law. When the facts are on your side, you pound on the facts. When neither is on your side, you pounce on the opposition's tiny technical errors.
(I know, I know, the law is unfortunately on their side.)
Scar1203
The focus on "assault rifles" needs to be shifted to semi automatic rifles with detachable magazines. An AR-15 isn't going to be any more lethal than a mini-14. Featureless is a joke as a means of gun control. No flash hider, collapsible stock, or pistol grip, that’s it. Roll the technology back 100 years, make people use en bloc clips like an m1 Garand for semi automatic rifles. Assholes won't feel so confident going on a mass shooting if they have 8 shots and their rifle pings when it's empty.
Badprenup
Agreed. There should be a total of like... 5 gun actions available. Pump, break, lever, bolt, and single action revolvers. And a limit to what they can hold: 6 rounds. Shit, get rid of magazines/clips entirely other than a tubular magazine attached to a rifle/shotgun.
If you need any more than that for hunting or self defense, you are not capable enough to be allowed a firearm.
rezexelon
I mean, to be honest there was the time that 4 armed dudes were thinking about breaking into my apartment, where I appreciated having more than 6 rounds available, because statistics say that under stress I'm not going to be as accurate as I am at a range on paper. Also, not ever perp goes down with one shot. My point is that my personal experience does have a case for more than 6 rounds being available.
TheOtherGuy1
Its also a nonstarter position to anyone who actually knows anything about guns and uses them. It's almost parallel to a 6-week ban on abortion and only for rape incest and the life of mother.
Scar1203
I'm fine with clips, just not magazines. Clips hold a lot less and take a lot more skill and practice with to reload quickly under pressure. Tube magazines don't work with most rifle cartridges, the pointed tip can strike the primer of the cartridge in front of it and set it off. Exceptions are rifle cartridges like the .45-70 which were designed with tube magazines in mind.
Badprenup
Fair point. But either way, low ammo count works for me
allenvasher3000
Well automatic rifles are already illegal
colesutra
Your pedantry is noted.
thetinymonarch
Actually no, fully automatic is but not semi automatic perfectly legal and you can buy fully automatic firearms. They just need to be a trade model
Heavenissize17socks
Not anymore. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68419279
Glasma
While not truly automatic, they are functionally automatic. They are also very inaccurate. The danger bump stocks pose to schools is honestly kinda low. A semi-auto SBR with high capacity magazines are far more dangerous as well as handguns. Bumps stocks are very dangerous when used on large crowds. Like when that guy used them to hose down the crowds at Las Vegas from his hotel window.
Heavenissize17socks
Or like a school classroom?
ActionJohnnie
Legal but regulated. You can get a license.
allenvasher3000
True
viila
The availability of civilian legal automatic firearms in the US is extremely limited. There are very few such guns that are in circulation. Most people would not be able to source one, or afford it if they can manage to find one that is actually for sale.
stevencloser
Good thing bump stocks are legal again then, right?
allenvasher3000
Good point, it is like an full automatic but harder to aim
notacobra
"AAAKKCHUALLY, the A in AR stands for Armalite, not automatic"
- somebody who doesn't care about children being gunned down by semiautomatic military grade "hunting" weapons, provided you use the right terminology
Ask yourself, does it make a meaningful difference in the context of yet another school shooting whether somebody uses automatic instead of semiautomatic?
Stop being pedantic.
kerms
Yes because it's more fear mongering and dishonesty.
Tomcat1982
I know it's pedantic, but when we refer to semi-automatic weapons as automatic weapons, we look like idiots. Take it from an ex-Republican. When we confuse these terms, Republicans use it to laugh at us and hand-wave us away as uninformed and unfit to hold any opinion on gun control, and it works. Think of how dumb Repubs look when they confuse weather with climate, sex with gender, free speech with the 1st Amendment. Stop helping them and just learn the damn terms. It's not that fucking hard.
viila
It does, because an automatic weapon would be illegally sourced (since most of them are not legal in civilian ownership), while a semiautomatic would most likely be legally sourced. What you need to do to fix the problem is very different. First requires better policing of existing gun control, while the second requires implementing new gun control.
PaleChapter
You sound like an anti-vaxxer. You're not just totally ignorant of what you're trying to weigh in on, but you're actively proud of it. I mean, I don't expect any better from a liberal who wants all the guns in the hands of the cops, but it's still disappointing.
GoodBrotherGrimm
erroniousmaximus
I want guns in the hands of everyone. And not just any kind of guns, I was tech-9s in every school desk in America. I want pedestrians packing pistols to shoot at drivers who honk their horns, and bus drivers with mossbergs to handle road ragers.
I believe every single individual should be forced to carry a gun after 6 years of age. That way there is no longer an excuse that it only takes a good guy with a gun. Because when everyone has guns, then all everywhere becomes perfectly safe.
LordAndSaviourBirdJesus
Liberals famously really like cops, of course they'd want them and only them to have guns... That's why defund the police became a thing, to give cops more guns. Jesus, what an idiot. Pull that gun out of your ass next time you try to sidestep the topic "dead children" based on incorrect rifle terminology.
PaleChapter
You will never defund the police. You will sign off on bill after bill that systematically strips the right to self-defense from one vulnerable population after another, but somehow always leaves a loophole for bloated police budgets and unstable white teenagers.
notacobra
Man that's a slice of irony coming from the midwit.
"Hey, stop wasting time making dumb, pedantic arguments when actual children are dying because of 'muh rights' idiots"
"Aaaaaaahhh covid!!"
The right is so fucking broken, you have no fucking idea where you even stand anymore.
PaleChapter
"The right." Yeah, real chud hours here--because everyone knows the only two sides are dead-eyed centrism and psychotic fascism. You're definitely the progressive one here--I can tell because you want to leave vulnerable populations helpless in the face of omnipresent state and private violence.
LordAndSaviourBirdJesus
Some gun nuts will jizz for hours over specs and nitpick in the most useless way possible. Their main argument seems to be that if you don't understand guns at the same level that they do, you have no right weighing in on the matter. Is that really how the world works? I don't need to know every intrinsic detail of a gun to say it's dangerous. Can't we say fire is dangerous without studying it for years? Cars? Chainsaws? Things carry various levels of risk that need to be properly regulated.
mischiev
If that was really how the world worked then only women would get to weigh in on women's health. But, alas, it works in whatever way they've decided gives them the advantage. It's like trying to play Chess with someone who is making up the rules as they go, and screaming to drown out your voice when you try to explain.
viila
Concentrating on banning AR pattern rifles is fucking stupid because there are 100 other rifles that are just as deadly. Banning specific features of rifles is stupid, because those are not what kills people. That is ass backwards gun control. You need to control access to guns regardless of type, regardless of features, from people who shouldn't have guns, period. That is the only thing that actually does anything. Because a loon will kill with a Scar or a Ruger just the same as with an AR.