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fletcherhonorama
when a social minority speaks and no one listens, does it make a sound?
Kiore
Both of New Zealand's native minority groups speak out against cultural appropriation but sure.
AtticusSullivan
Doesn’t the first line contradict the following point..?
BarelyLucid
Hold up, isn't this guy speaking up for other people too...
bobziIIa
Speaking up for, and being offended for, are very different. One assumes how they feel, one treats them like people.
chickadeedeedeedee
He’s speaking for everyone from every culture, which is kind of hilarious.
KidKarless
I live in Japan, and let me tell you. If you aren't appropriate in their culture they look down of u
khazaria
In that case, it would be cultural imperialism.
HubCapDiamondStarHalo
Yes. Cousin was Japanese. I miss her. (she passed away) Said they secretly snark everyone so get one & leave it home if I went to Japan
palmo
Assimilation isn't the same concept.
ImHereToExplainTheJoke
Cultural appropriation is not white people wearing a kimono or dreads. It’s wearing a kimono and declaring it their creation/discovery.
SaintMaceToTheFace
I doubt that is very common
ImHereToExplainTheJoke
It is more common than you think. Look up the history of Rock n' Roll. It's only recently the black folks who laid the foundational work-
ImHereToExplainTheJoke
for the music genre are getting proper credit for it. That's just one example.
BalphEubanksLeftNut
When you don't have a victim card of your own, you have to borrow someone else's.
HeightEnvy
Look, it IS douchey to adopt affectations of a culture without showing respect for it. But so many of the accusations are people 1/?
HeightEnvy
telling someone what they can and cannot enjoy based upon their race or background. This is not a solution to racial imbalances. This is 2/
HeightEnvy
transferring the same messed up rules into the hands of different people. You are STILL being told what to do based on your race. Context 3/
HeightEnvy
matters! Vanilla Ice WAS a cheap attempt to cash in on a culture without showing it respect. But Bruno Mars clearly loves the music he 4/
HeightEnvy
makes. And has studied it enough to lovingly recreate the music he loves. That's cultural exchange. And it's a good thing.
TamariaMontgomery
The only people I've ever seen jumping up and down about cultural appropriation are conservatives and people mocking conservatives.
Fratstarchad
Generally cultural appropriation is a big issue with native americans, who do, in fact, care
Gorgrim
I normally hear about CA in relation to Natives, or small tribes having their designs used. Also dreadlocks are not solely Jamaican.
Brocktooon
Why do we take Tumblr rants from high school juniors seriously? Let's stop doing that.
spacesound
Theverant
Is that an old Afro Samurai?
MeatCurtains
Uncle ruckus was a man of his convictions
Taur622
"There are those of you who say I'm wrong for hatin' niggas." - Uncle Ruckus.
iusuallyrespondwithgifsoroffensivecomments
There's powerful niggatry afoot
thezoolityre
"Ya got bad credit, Roberts!!!"
TheGoldRhodiumEagle
I read it in his voice
2Ghoul4School
"Therrs pauerfuwl niggatree afute"
irishPEDOelf
Ravenuser
...isn’t he also talking for them? Isn’t it ironic, don’t you think?
rhcpmuse911
You're doing the same thing just in reverse.
twothousandfourhundredseventytworice
How?
rhcpmuse911
Concerned people are caring too much about cultural appropriation. Tells us cultures don't care at all. It's an extreme position
twothousandfourhundredseventytworice
Oh ok.
pastramionrye
Isnt that a pic of that guy who got caught twice impersonating a doctor?
primalmammal
Cultural appropriation is a little more complex than choosing a style of clothing you like. It's disrespectfully misrepresenting a culture.
Shendorion
Right, but not everyone who accuses people of it gets that. It's often used as a blunt instrument by people spoiling for a fight.
primalmammal
like wearing a "kimono" for Halloween. I think some people are going far by applying the concept to "inspired" clothes for example.
RhorGath
A kimono is literally just clothing. It'd be disrespectful if they claimed to be geisha, though. Japanese peeps don't care otherwise
primalmammal
Exactly. That's why it's disrespectful to call it a costume. Wearing traditional clothes in everyday life because you like it is fine.
ArdentSlacker
Is it? because you can dress up like a firefighter or a stripper or a serial killer. It's fucking halloween. :D
SaintMaceToTheFace
Amen
Loatiwastaken
I wouldnt be offended of someone dressed up as a sevillana bullfighter and Im from Spain. I think its stupid unless you mean harm
SaintMaceToTheFace
This. It’s like if I got offended because people dressed up like a cowboy or something
primalmammal
It's a job, not traditional clothes. Soccer player can also be a costume, you know.
primalmammal
Putting a feather on your head and saying "look! I'm an indian!" is fucking racist and cultural appropriation.
SaintMaceToTheFace
Then wearing anything would be racist. People just need to chill out.
mrsmadhatter122916
Not racist. Not appropriation. They love to teach people about the culture. (I'm Cherokee/Scottish) They are steeped in tradition and love
primalmammal
My Algonquin friend finds it offensive. It's not even part of her culture to wear feathers.
mrsmadhatter122916
to show others about their way of life and don't get offended by it. Being offended for someone else is truly a privelege.
ITalkAboutGoats
Make some formline art if you aren't in those tribes. Go on, I'll wait.
mrsmadhatter122916
And also, you're as bad as the people in the post lol fuckin bully ass children
mrsmadhatter122916
One I didn't say I was a traditional Cherokee artist. Two I sure will after work.
Lifeangel
Unless your culture has been completely cut off from the rest of the world since the beginning of humanity, it is a mishmash of other (1/2)
Lifeangel
cultures anyways. Without cultural appropriation no modern cultures would exist as they are today period. More people need to study history.
mrsmadhatter122916
https://imgur.com/LcVu12I
VoiceofVeganReason
Simply copying another culture =/= cultural appropriation. Cultural appropriation is when you copy parts of a culture without respecting(1)
VoiceofVeganReason
What said things mean.
Sapherno11
Uh....If you go to Japan and just randomly wear Kimono's around, you WILL offend people. They just won't say anything....mostly.
RhorGath
No it won't. They rent kimono, sell kimono, there's even Maiko services open to everyone. Watch street intreviews, they don't care
Sapherno11
My mistake then. Could have sworn Kimono's were supposed to be worn for specific reasons, must have been thinking of something else, my bad.
RhorGath
There are special ceremonial kimono but most are just pretty articles of clothing. Like dresses and jeans, each has their purpose and place
ITalkAboutGoats
Not according to what I've seen
Sapherno11
My mistake then. Could have sworn Kimono's were supposed to be worn for specific reasons, must have been thinking of something else, my bad.
Ltrain5
I’m sick of people becoming offended on behalf of someone else. It’s 2018, everyone has a voice.
rjkonc9
Isnt that the profile picture of that 20 year old in north palm beach that got arrested for pretending to be a doctor?
TheRealDinotron
First thing I thought as well.
SprinklesMckitten
Gynecologist
WhatTheHeII
Malachi Love-Robinson yea and he’s in jail for 3 years
DocMartinL
He was appropriating gynecological culture...
SprinklesMckitten
Yes, a fine avatar for common sense.
BecauseCanadian
So ... “don’t speak for them because this is how they feel.”? Isn’t that also speaking for them?
SharkTurnip
The irony of SJW's crying cultural appropriation is that they're well off white people telling colored people how to feel.
100percentgenuineimitation
Well Off, Guilty white people! I am a not well off white person and I am not offended!
Lifk
I think its reducing the problem to say that its limited to color of skin but yea whatever.
TheAngryMarineBiologist
I think the well off part is more accurate than the white part. There's SJWs of other ethnicities, but they are usually privileged types
CoughCoughBS
Write a book about it.
SharkTurnip
That might be a good idea.
ArdentSlacker
appropriation complainers are literally saying "You can't do that, you're the wrong color."
RedClaws23
The White Man's Burden
ToasterDent
Southern Jewish Women?
HormonalWoman
Yes and no: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDlQ4H0Kdg8
LimeJ
That's a terrible argument that could be disproven by anyone. I'm not white and I'm what you would call a SJW. (1/2)
LimeJ
(2/2) Just because there are bigger problems to deal with/complain about does not mean that cultural appropriation is suddenly okay.
jgregoire1088
Omg, it's a damned non-issue that's turned into one, because you guys need some sort of cause to get behind to feel better about yourselves
RhorGath
You acting like simple hairstyles or clothing is a white supremacist symbol and cry "BIGOTRY" when you're told you're overreacting.
iriskthedownvotesforthetruth
It's usually middle-class college students and academics. Only the bourgeoisie and still living at home 20's can afford regular protesting.
vauhtihirmu
So you're saying that only the well-off have the resources to even voice their opinions in your society?
iriskthedownvotesforthetruth
So you're saying, "so you're saying" because you're hoping I'll slip up? Nice try Cathy Newman.
SharkTurnip
That entire interview was a massive blow to worldwide SJW groupthink.
datphone777365
mollywobbles
- White person who said incredibly offensive thing that has been known to be offensive for decades
cuddlesdotgif
I’m just popping in to say your username is the tits.
SharkTurnip
Did you just assume my race and/or ethnicity? Typical privileged white person of indeterminate gender or sex, smh...
mollywobbles
- person who assumed my race and/or ethnicity
Darkspire
Honestly, it's more idiots not understanding what cultural appropriation is. It's not wearing dreadlocks, it's taking something from another
Skunkymunky
That’s only one part of cultural appropriation. And it’s not the part that people of appropriated cultures usually care a lot about.
HighlySexualLobster
For a bigot its a great way to troll. You make SJW's look heinous, and dismiss their causes by association. You also encourage people 1/2
VoiceofVeganReason
Or y'know, different people can have different opinions on what is cultural appropriation and what is mere copying and not everyone who(1)
VoiceofVeganReason
Holds a different view to you is an idiot.
apolloin
I feel honourbound to tell you that terms are defined for a reason. Not everyone's opinion is equal - some opinions are wrong.
VoiceofVeganReason
Sure, but simply having a different idea on what constitutes cultural appropriation doesn't make someone wrong.
apolloin
The only way having a different opinion to, say, mine isn't wrong is if my idea is wrong. I'm open to that, but there is a right opinion.
OjibwainAlberta
Like a country......just sayin.
HighlySexualLobster
who would otherwise be open to other cultures food fashion and hair styles to stay away out of fear. 2/2
Darkspire
culture, and claiming that YOU originally came up with it.
kaymon
Keep moving those goal posts.
georgecostanzalatexsalesman
Who can say where things “originally” come from, cultures have been burrowing ideas from each other since the beginning of mankind
vauhtihirmu
I think you meant to write borrowing, but burrowing kinda also applies here.
ITalkAboutGoats
More like making money off a cultural art form that isn't yours.
Ltrain5
So your telling me Eminem shouldn’t make money off his music, because historically it’s not music of “His culture”. Seems really dumb.
sdakfsdfkjh
So marvel pillaging and altering nordic mythology, for example? Or did i get that one wrong?
bingbaddaboom2000
And you are an idiot.
MNThaler
Can you give an example of this happening?
MarlenaWatches
White girl 'tribal-inspired' makeup and hair tutorials
zwitterion117
Israelis saying they came up with hummus or falafel
rudejohn
Often when I see SJWs offended about cultural appropration it's something like a sports team's name. The team isn't claiming it's their idea
rudejohn
Or frat boys dressed up like mariachis. Or school children wearing geisha dresses and make-up. None of those are claiming original creation.
amglasgow
Cultural appropriation is a thing that people of color do object to. It's not every time that someone not of a culture likes a thing 1/?
amglasgow
from that culture, like too-woke-for-their-own-good white folks sometimes see it, but it's when they take advantage of people from the 2/?
amglasgow
culture in order to make money, like when white record companies signed predatory contracts with black musicians and then had white 3/?
amglasgow
singers record the songs instead, leading to the creation of Motown records. It's a thing but POC should be the ones to say what it is .4/4
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amglasgow
That's like the original definition.
GGCrono
Thanks for saying this, and I'm sorry that I had to go so far down the line to find somebody saying it.
sunnymangoes
Thank you for actually contributing some nuance to this discussion!
Maraxus
As a German, I'm only offended by foreigners in Lederhosen if they are also drunk. Unless it's October+/-1 month, then that's okay, too.
manulofdoom
As someone who lives in Munich, well, I'm not offended, but annoyed. I mean, try getting to work by ubahn when it's full of such douchebags.
sayfcknwhat
I thought Lederhosen were only worn by leather daddies in gay porn. The gays appropriate everything!
durwildlandfiremans
That was great
Partytor
Are you implying all Germans aren't gay?
AustriaNotAustralia
Why would you be offended? Not even all Germans wear Lederhosen, only the Bavarians. I am Austrian and I couldnt care less
TripleZer0
Not all bavarians wear Lederhosen goddamn it !!!
AustriaNotAustralia
Ich know..
pepsiad
oh i love kangurus and your culture
AustriaNotAustralia
ich auch
Maraxus
Cultural Appropriation!!!! (No, seriously, I'm just kidding)
durwildlandfiremans
Sehr Hammer!
DontWannaCloseMyEyesCauseIMissYouBabyAndIDontWannaMissAThang
Ya seen it here folks, Germans making jokes! What a time to be alive!
Aeriys
Got eeeeem
wichaw
Thanks for this comment! You make my day!
CovfefeTheBloodless
When your culture has been mocked for years and suddenly it's cool and hip, that can be really annoying
Hemelsblauw
Like Dutchmen wearing wooden shoes?
norabora
And why would the whole world need to change just because you are annoyed?
CovfefeTheBloodless
I never said it did.
norabora
Oh ok. Yesterday I saw my favorite pair of socks had a hole in them.
CovfefeTheBloodless
Like when it became popular to be "nerdy" when I had been bullied for the same things for years by the same people who now think it's cool
fearandloathebananas
Stop appropriating my Star Wars, you dick!
notmuchthoughtoreffort
anything can become cool once they figure out there's a market for merchandise!
CovfefeTheBloodless
I can see how people might think the same about their own culture if that's the case.
imnotthecookiemonster
You sound like Kurt cobain... awesome!
CapnMawf
I was/am a nerd too. Instead of being annoyed, just be happy you now have more people to discuss your favorite things with. Past is past
CovfefeTheBloodless
No, they didn't like nerd things, they just wore giant glasses and went around saying "OMG, I'm such a nerd"
CoughCoughBS
Those are just assholes and in every generation you will have them. Don't let them define your life.
Ravenwing14
https://i.redd.it/47k1f02cl3gz.jpg
Sturmgeschutz
That's usually because people realize they can make money off the nerdy people. An example are tit streamers.
Moridin23
I agree with everything except his belief that SJWs are well-meaning. Most of them are the most hateful and hostile people you’ll ever meet
AllHailTechnoViking
feeling the need to play victim.
Moridin23
I love your name, btw
Kiore
I've rarely encountered that offline. Most are young and opinionated but who wasn't? They're generally nice enough if you're nice to them.
SaintMaceToTheFace
This. My problem is that you can agree with some of them 90% but they will try and crucify you over that 10% of difference
Kiore
Again, very few of the ones I've met, and I'm an outspoken guy with many contrary opinions and a tendency to put my foot in it.
VoiceofVeganReason
"SJWs" don't exist. It's a buzzword used by reactionary idiots to generalise.
Andolomar
I know a guy who is a literal Nazi and I prefer his company much more than the company of the SJW in my society.
TheFoxCouncil
So you prefer the company of those who wish to exterminate people based on their race, over people who occasionally get a little worked up?
Andolomar
Yeah 'cause he's an interesting and well spoken man who is generous and self-motivated, whereas the SJW is a rude and lazy human baboon.
TheFoxCouncil
Ok. But he's still a Nazi.
Andolomar
So? I enjoy his company, and he has a rare perspective on social and political issues that he is capable of explaining articulately. The SJW
RhorGath
SJWs have gotten people fired from lies, they've bullied to suicide, they've doxxed and threatened people. They're no better than Nazis
TheFoxCouncil
They are better, because those are examples of extremists, whereas genocide against 'lesser races' is a basic tenet of the Nazi ideology.
RhorGath
Nazis don't exist anymore. All we have now are dumbasses with a base idea of the ideology. Still stupid as fuck, but so are SJWs
Groznek
Y'know, I can't put my finger on why this fellow's friend's perspectives on social and political issues are so rare. I. Just. Can't.
storebrandproductmascot
I feel like several years of daily anti-SJW circle jerks has warped you guys's perspective to the point where you can't even judge that.
Moridin23
Nope. I know some irl and they’re awful people
Secsletariat
The phrase is so over- and misused that it's lost almost all meaning, except for, in some cases, pointing out the users political slant.
giantbat872
Does that trigger you? I can set up a safe space in the corner if you'd like.
Gorgrim
You mean like a theatre? I heard Pence uses them as safe spaces. Would hate for him to be triggered by something so he storms out... ;-)
kargadorbruh
I'm not sure if SJW is a US thing or a 1st World thing coz us living in Asia feel weirded out on some of the issues SJWs are focusing on
ITalkAboutGoats
Where in Asia?
CheetahFart
I've seen a smidge of SJW-like attitude in the UK, and also all that safe space/I'm offended culture
SontaranGaming
I think it's because in America we have a lot of racial tensions in the past, so there are people who focus on insignificant things and (1)
SontaranGaming
See it as a slippery slope to a resurgence of some of the horrible things from the past. It's a fallacy for sure, but I personally think (2)
SontaranGaming
People overreact to some "SJW" things. There are some extreme anti-SJWs who see anything liberal and claim it to be SJW bullshit, which (3)
RhorGath
No, SJWs are hateful bigots. It's why we talk shit about them. They're as bad as the alt right
SaintMaceToTheFace
Well some can be. Some are more in the well meaning side of the spectrum just trying to push back against perceived racism.1/2
SaintMaceToTheFace
It’s dumb but they are at least trying to be helpful. Others are like culture Nazis
MachineInterface
"We blanket hate these people because they're all hateful biggot without exception". Delicious irony.
RhorGath
Except SJWs are as bad as Nazis. Nazis are evil, with few exceptions. SJWs are evil, with few exceptions.
MachineInterface
Nazis certainly thought that about jews.
Hatebear
Being offended is a British thing so ACTUALLY the Americans are culturally appropriating that from us.
BossRoswell
They're also appropriating the very concept of language and clothing. It's like College kids have never heard of cultural exchange.
Cataleast
I'm not sure if it's as much being offended but rather "getting into a bit of a huff while reading the morning paper" ;)
datphone777365
Dumps more tea into the bay.
cheeseguy3412
... but if someone identifies as a cat, does that mean everything belongs to them anyway?
Reinette
Yes, but only if they can knock it off a table.
senaya
I finally realized why keyboards have EN (UK) and EN (US) layouts now. To prevent appropriation.
battery1979
Umm, what's the difference?
usernametakenisthestoryofmylife
I'm offended!
DavosTheOnionKnight
Fuck, I'm sorry. Oh wait, being sorry is a Canadian thing! When will it stop!!!!
TheDuffMeister
Americans can’t ‘stop’ invading lands.. sorry!
AdventureRoomba
Wait. That means America is appropriating mongol culture!
Matthew51376
Fyba
Then please, take the people who are doing this. We don't want them here.
fluffOpAnimal
Ironic, they could save others from death but not themselves.
Ltrain5
Come appropriate with us Irish Folk. A shot of Whiskey all around and yell at the football game like the nasty bunch of cunts we are.
ResearchByJoe
"Appropriate" comes from Late Latin "appropriātus," so really the SJWs are appropriating when they talk about appropriating
WaltherWater
and as usual, we spell it differently
RealScienceMan
It's not really cultural appropriation when they're our parent culture, we were them for a while. Then again the concept is silly anyway.
ILikePugandFrenchiePictures
But confronting the guilty party about how offended you are is very unBritish. French maybe?
thefeckamisigningupwithfacebook
Confirmed Frenchman
ijustwanttoeven
Zivvy1
This must be a southern britsh thing because nobody up north gives a ahit about anything anybody does.
thefeckamisigningupwithfacebook
Except to suggest Lancashire chips can match Yorkshire chips... obviously...
cheesecutter
That's ok, cos we have better tea
thefeckamisigningupwithfacebook
Nowt better than Yorkshire tea.
MossyMoose
Acthhhually
TopCommenter
Our country was founded on being offended at other people and shooing them off what is now our land. You started it.
JonTBirbman
I’m British and I don’t think I’ve ever been offended by anything.
Boom2219
As another brit, I'm offended that you considered yourself a brit without being offended
nicouk
Cutting in front of you in the queue.
Selerox
That's because the only individuals that do that are detestable wretches of the first water.
billingsworthswagamuffin
Have you ever visited the South? Cause sweet tea is delicious but I’ve seen it offend a number of Brits.
billingsworthswagamuffin
Also, I’ve heard people from the North of England eat curry with chips which is just wrong on a whole other level.
thefeckamisigningupwithfacebook
Nowt wrong with curry n'chips.
billingsworthswagamuffin
I’ve had it and not a fan. But to each their own
ChazyChap
Get Out!
billingsworthswagamuffin
Yep, super gross. Long story short I had to try it once cause no one understood my southern drawl and gave me fries instead of rice.
Reinette
I'm a Brit. Was once offered Tetely tea. Very offended.
cheesecutter
Someone once put milk in first - very offended
Garbinator
Hey, I like Tetley! Now I'm offended.. fine
SpaceTurd69
imma start talking to you on the tube then.
JonTBirbman
Go for it
thefeckamisigningupwithfacebook
You are deliberately odd. Please leave. We find you very offensive. Are you sure your not... French?
spudpicker
Except the stereotypical angry Brit is politely scandalized, while the angry American is shouting and flipping tables.
aluriilol
That's why I always bring my camping flipper table in my trunk. Never know when you have to flip a table in a parking lot or a gas station
pookieeatworld
Confirmed. In America, nobody knows if you're serious unless you flip a fucking table over.
fadecomic
Yep. I flipped several before breakfast. I keep tables on a roll like paper towels so I can replace them every time I get angry.
pookieeatworld
That's a good idea...