Bye bye bad bosses.

Nov 3, 2019 12:26 PM

bellabug

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Back story time! I’ve been at a law firm as an associate for about two and a half years. Was approached by a solo practitioner to take over his practice as he retires. It was a tough decision (and a huge move for me), but working in a very toxic environment pushed me to take it. My bosses tried to get me to stay by promising me all these things - I’ll be partner one day and I could run my own office and blah blah blah. Turns out I don’t want to continue to answer to these assholes and continue to practice under their policies that I disagree with while they reap all the benefits. Being my own boss sounds great. So I turned them down, gave them a month’s notice and in response was told: “I can’t imagine having a family and trying to do what you’re doing. You’ll have to end up being a stay at home mom.” “I have put years into you and the only reason you’re confident enough to make this move is because of me.” “Why are millennials so untrustworthy? You try and try but they just turn their backs on you.” “What have you even been doing for the past 2 years? Your job was basically non-existent.” I was sad for a couple of days, but after some wine and then some more wine, I’m more confident in my decision than ever. It all just proved why I needed to get out anyways. On to the next adventure!

Good luck to you,. And them, they can fuck off.

6 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 1

My first boss told me I’d never be any good as an engineer. 2 years later I’m lead designer at my new company.

6 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Law firms in general seem to be really toxic environments

6 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Good luck and don't look back!

6 years ago | Likes 42 Dislikes 0

They would have fired you without a hesitation.

6 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Why would you be loyal to toxicity?

6 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 1

Millennials switch jobs less frequently than boomers did at the same age

6 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 4

T. Boone Pickens and other corporate raiders destroyed the maternal employer/employee relationships that had existed for lifetimes.

6 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Loyalty ... would they get rid of you with a months notice if you weren't making them a profit?

6 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Good lord that seems like the kind of talk a manipulative abusive significant other would say...

6 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Blind loyalty to a company that will never care about you... Don't get more Boomer then that

6 years ago | Likes 32 Dislikes 4

Very proud of your decision!!! I broke solo 7 years ago and haven't looked back. You got this! If you need any help or need to someone to

6 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 0

bounce questions off of, dont hesitate to reach out :)

6 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Thank you!! I may take you up on that. I’ll be figuring it out as I go but definitely ready to make it work!

6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

So, they didn’t have a problem with your performance until you decided not to work there? Sounds like a solid move for you.

6 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

They hate you if you leave, they abuse you if you stay. I’ve been freelance since 2015. Being my own boss is the best thing I’ve done.

6 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

The days of companies being loyal to employees are long gone. There is absolutely NO guarantee they would have done any of what they claim

6 years ago | Likes 58 Dislikes 0

they would have done if you’d only “hung in there” or whatever. You had an opportunity right in front of you, a REAL tangible opportunity

6 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

Always take that over verbal promises from a boss, especially a toxic one. You did the right thing, and I’m sure you’ll kill it, congrats!

6 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

Yup. All the great benefits that the baby boomers grew up with are gone, the same benefits that brought loyalty.

6 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Yep. You want loyalty? Offering pensions will buy that

6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Train your employees so theyre rdy to leave. Treat them good so they wont. Something like that. They shoulda listened

6 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 0

OK boomer

6 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 3

Translation" You were a useful pawn that i took for granted and now i'm mad cus you're leaving and it's my fault" If he really wanted 1/2

6 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

you to as partner he'd negotiate, not attack you and try to manipulate you with guilt. Fuck that loser, you made the right move.Go kick ass!

6 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

I work for money. If you want loyalty, get a dog. Pretty sure that's a meme somewhere.

6 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 0

If you weren't a great employee they wouldn't be saying any of that. If they were good bosses you wouldn't leave. Their loss. Good luck!

6 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I jumped ship from big law firm life a decade ago. Best thing I ever did. Don’t take their BS seriously.

6 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

What did you go into?

6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Little bit of this a little bit of that. Eventually found a career I find far more rewarding, albeit for quite a pay cut

6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Glad to hear it. I’m in it right now & considering my options. Trying to not get too comfortable in the golden handcuffs.

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Their response is all you needed to know about them. Good luck OP

6 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Lawyers are scumbags. Shocker. In other news, water is wet. . .

6 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 3

Thank you

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Loyalty is for friends and family. Fuck everything else.

6 years ago | Likes 366 Dislikes 8

I’ll tell you is NOT loyal... these hoes

6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

A good leader or team of coworkers might earn personal loyalty, but institutional loyalty to the business is inadvisable.

6 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Nope, loyalty is for the people that earn it; friends and, granted, sometimes some members of your family do earn your loyalty!

6 years ago | Likes 70 Dislikes 1

Sometimes family doesn’t deserve loyalty

6 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Isn't that what I wrote here just two hours ago?

6 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Whoops, replied to the wrong comment ?

6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Ah! That woild explain my confusion!

6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Damn millenials with wanting to make a life for themselves and feel like they arent being used by a company! Ruining everything

6 years ago | Likes 40 Dislikes 2

I know right? Always whining about "I want to be paid a living wage" this and "I don't wanna work unpaid overtime" that.

6 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

"My kid is being born I need off".... "i want paid vacations"...."I want medical benefits"

6 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Damn millennials ruining *shuffles cards*...this law firm!

6 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

Killing this law firm! Just like they killed applebees and the diamond industry!

6 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Shit, after 8 seconds of reading this story I'm confident in your decision. If I understand correctly, you're supposed to say "ok, boomer."

6 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 2

Good for you. Left my last job that was deadly toxic. The boss asked what the new place offered. I told him higher pay and vacation. He >

6 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 1

< said "I can give you those things." I was so over it, I just looked at him and said "then why the fuck didn't you?"

6 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 1

Because if they gave them to you to start out, they couldn't use them as bargaining chips later.

6 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

True, but the whole time I worked there we never got raises or anything because he said it wasn't in the budget. Then when I put in my >

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That’s the stock boomer response when you stop letting them milk you for all you’re worth. Fuck them, good luck!

6 years ago | Likes 1728 Dislikes 20

But a company will let you go without notice if they need to save some money.

6 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 0

It's ageist to label a whole generation by the actions of individual assholes. Some of the kindest supervisors I've had were boomers.

6 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 14

Bro this is imgur. All boomers are rich white men who voted for Trump.

6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 7

I'm sorry I enticed you in to this downvotopia. It seems the generation that wants acceptance for every nitnoid detail are not accepting.

6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 3

Couldn't be that they are shitty lawyers...no it has to do with the generation they grew up in

6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

People who judge people based on their generation are dumb

6 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

As a millennial, I don’t let boomers milk me, I milk them! I leave to get a better job nearly every year. Quadrupled my income in 4 years

6 years ago | Likes 191 Dislikes 1

Good as a millenial we start low, so even if we quadruple, we top out at best near boomer-time wages.

6 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Bruh,, I literally have had 15+ jobs because every new job has been a lateral move I thought it was just me being a typical millennial

6 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

Yes, 400% increase! 35k -> 140k

6 years ago | Likes 71 Dislikes 1

That's a 300% increase.

6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

The only time in my 30 years I've made over 18k was literally in a combat zone. Fuck Futter

6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Jeez. Doing what?

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Went from biotech to IT in my first 6 months of working

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

My guess is IT

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You were correct sir or madam

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

How do you do that?

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I have gone ftom 62 to 102 in 6 months

6 years ago | Likes 43 Dislikes 3

I just went from 40 to 65. It felt great. Was terrified to stay at the same job, but jumped ship and I haven't looked back.

6 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Congrats young buck, keep going, dont stop for anything.

6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Not long ago I read a story about guy who earned 150k in overtime and wanted promotion. they denied and told manager "to fire millennial"

6 years ago | Likes 218 Dislikes 6

And they wonder why there is no stock left in loyalty

6 years ago | Likes 36 Dislikes 1

Sounds like discrimination due to age to me?

6 years ago | Likes 144 Dislikes 2

Sounds like a couple of labor crimes. Unpaid work. Age discrimination.

6 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 1

No no. You cant legally discriminate against young adult workers. Only boomers and older. I'm being serious. That's how our laws work

6 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

Because look at the age range of the people making the laws.

6 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

In the US, there are no protections for those under 40. The ADEA only protects workers over 40 from age discrimination.

6 years ago | Likes 31 Dislikes 0

Oh. Well, carry on exploiting the youth, my good sir.

6 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

Not discrimination. Extortion. They think that you will bust your ass for empty promises and boss handshake.

6 years ago | Likes 82 Dislikes 3

Yeah, my last employer was like that. And they wonder why their turnover rate is so damn bad.

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Well, 150k in overtime sounds nice...unless that's not USD?

6 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

USD. But they wouldn't need to pay him if it was his fault for firing him. Hence his manager was ordered to find reason.

6 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 2

That sounds extremely questionable, how would they avoid paying him if he already did the work? IANAL tho.

6 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

You give productivity they give you pay. At the end of the day neither owes the other anything. “Loyalty” is meaningless rhetoric.

6 years ago | Likes 920 Dislikes 18

This attitude is the reason why work places suck so much now. Because both sides adopt this mentality. If you find a place that treats you

6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Right, with respect and value, then they are deserving of loyalty. Investment of trust is part of a successful business.

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

In a certain context maybe. In my career I have a manager that has given me the opportunity to jump the line by years, paid me well, and 1/2

6 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Kept me working throughout projects. I'm extremely loyal to him, to the point I wont work for anyone else, because I know he's got my back.

6 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

You have to be loyal, but they could lay you off due to "cuts" in no time. Hows that for loyality?... it works both ways! Good luck @OP!

6 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

It's a buzzword to try and get you to not spend PTO and sick time to undermine your own well being so the company can make a few extra cents

6 years ago | Likes 28 Dislikes 1

Loyalty is the thing greedy people talk about when they want something for free.

6 years ago | Likes 278 Dislikes 11

The tell is when it's always expected and never given.

6 years ago | Likes 44 Dislikes 0

Definitely

6 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 4

Either that, or 'exposure'.

6 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

But Dutch had a GOD DAM PLAN!

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Are you trying to say that the Dutch have good dam planning? -because I think that would make more sense... (if, maybe, not in this context)

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Dutch Van der linde. Red dead 2

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Loyalty needs to be mutual in order for it to be meaningful.

6 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

I agree w OP, but to play devil’s advocate, 1st + 2nd year associates at law firms take a ton of training to be any use, so I can (1/2)

6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

understand why firms dislike ppl leaving after benefitting from training. BUT that’s no excuse for the firm to be shitty to employees. (2/2)

6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

(also in the end, doing what’s best for you in the job market should always take precedence, so good on ya, OP!)

6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

They would also fire you in a heartbeat if it was of benefit to them.

6 years ago | Likes 24 Dislikes 0

No, loyalty is important, but used as they did, it's just a coverword for 'control.'

6 years ago | Likes 52 Dislikes 1

Yeah, it has to go both ways.

6 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Yeah, there's lots of cynical people on here. Loyalty can be a healthy thing, in Al walks of life.

6 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

Ask yourself how loyal you would be if your employer stopped paying you or how loyal they would be if you couldn't be productive.

6 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I said it can be, not that it is outright healthy. I thought it was obvious that blind loyalty can be dangerous too.

6 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

In a workplace setting it's just meaningless rhetoric. It's the sort of thing an employer expects without earning it.

6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Loyalty is something you owe someone if given something extraordinary like a friend who helped you through bad times but never pay/work

6 years ago | Likes 78 Dislikes 1

This. Loyalty is what you give to someone who gave you something and expected nothing.

6 years ago | Likes 29 Dislikes 1

Yes

6 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

What if a company did this? Like what if you decide you want to start your own business and the company is so invested in its employees >>

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

they actually help you do it!

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

If they aren't trying to force you into a deal where you service them at a disadvantage to you, then they've earned a measure of loyalty.

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0