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Oct 21, 2015 3:51 PM
IPegOnTheFirstDate
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SuharuStormrage
There would still be too many politicians.
GhostbusterGuy
Glad to see Hermione is doing well at the Ministry of Magic.
IAmHarrisonFord
Were all just going to ignore emma watson being a country
JimTheIconDaher
Wingardium Leviovaries.
Isorikk
I guess Emma Watson is a politician now?
balthcat
Activists are also commonly engaged in world politics. (Everything is political.)
IPegOnTheFirstDate
http://www.unwomen.org/en/partnerships/goodwill-ambassadors/emma-watson
Touchyhorse
Is this legit?
OktoberSunset
So, apart from Hilary being a man, the message here is that women aren't pulling their weight. Lazy bitches.
NakoSunao
Why hasn't the hivemind destroyed you yet?
OktoberSunset
Lulz > politics
azazyel
Should have used this picture
Applepotamus
we can't all be smooth like biden
SneaksieManfool
TIL you can be female Hitler, but your biggest sin will still be being old and not attractive.
HypoMix
Didn't Iran have more women in politics than most Western countries? Maybe Egypt... Damn forgot.
RainieCog
I expected Michael Cera
funkjacket
*John Cena
funkjacket
*dickbutt
losviking
You can't expect a Michael Cera post on a Michael Cera post. It just doesn't work that way.
LionHeart31337
Micheal Cera. The new bickbutt
funkjacket
*Captain Jack
Stadix
I am disappointed he isnt there
GeorgeMotherfuckingWashington
the Spanish Inquisition*
eatened
Tomorrow, you'll see. :D
layzboy
Or http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/9-13-2015/28JfPx.gif
BlueEyeMickey
so this post both boo-hoos about the precieved inequalities and says that hillary is not wome enough. fuck you
pizzaparty
I am not a Hillary supporter, but I get angry as fuck every time I hear someone call her "Cankles". She suffers from misogyny as do we all.
DarthDragon7
You are too young to remember Janet Reno
chaoguy2006
The UK one is actually a comparison of how many MPs go to work usually, and how many turned up when the expenses scandal happened.
idownvoteplottwist
KariMil
That turned feminist to sexist pretty quickly.
LockedKeye
Everything is a legitimate source of humor. Yes, that includes your gender. If you can't take it...too bad. I have no reason to care.
IsaacAhhhhhhh
It is strange how often that happens
ingelri
T R I G G E R E D
Disembowleeh
Hilarious, but unexpectedly potent imagery o.o
alpacasaurusrex
*Hilaryous. I feel you missed a good opportunity for a good punny.
BobCratchet
I hate to be that guy. But there are actually 191 female MPs in the House of Commons.
Disembowleeh
No, by all means be that guy. I have no clue how many female MPs exist, but even still, some of the other parliaments seem vacant otherwise
BobCratchet
Absolutely. I can't work out if the photo is real. Even before the last election there were 147.
Woofbloodywoof
My MP for my area is a woman, And she's actually pretty ok, I intend to write to her at some point about legality of weaponry.
ILivUndrUrBed
Cool, how many men?
Ophelis
459. Totally no imbalance at all.
Ihazcheeseburger
And what percent of men enter politics as a career and stay in it versus women?
ILivUndrUrBed
That's terrible! What the hell?! I'm supposed to be living in the god damn future! I'm moving to Norway
Ihazcheeseburger
It's not necessarily terrible. It is if it's because of sexism. But what if women are simply less likely to pursue a career in politics?
Ophelis
Probably isn't helped by the fact our only female prime minister (Thatcher) is and was in the 80s hated by the large majority...
baldandbearded
Norways partyleader debate in 2011:
Lightsye
You go, Norway!
terrorista31
We need equality in Norway, look at all that womens taking our jobs! :P
ensvensktiger
damn swedes come take our jubs!
togetheragain
Government of Norway in 1986: http://ndla.no/sites/default/files/images/Brundtlands%20kvinneregjering%201986.jpg
TheGingerBeardedBiologist
The fashion is real.
Yamaroni
Wow. That's perfect 50/50.
MysteriousFangedRutabaga
Hillary Clinton is a strong, powerful WOMAN, asshole
LockedKeye
Objectively, yes. For the sake of the joke, no. As everything is a legitimate source of humor...
Musicphile67
I upvoted you 'cause I thought you were calling Hillary an asshole.
LargeCanine
Hillary is a crook and a liar.
ingelri
Would you say that this post triggered you?
cakeandjake
Dude, stop.
Jarmander08
http://imgur.com/Vemklse
KharnApproves
I always upvote that goddamn gif. It's hilarious.
kukbert
Swedish foreign minister Anna Lindh had her kid with her at a UN meeting once and the kid asked her if all the girls were coming later :/
KariMil
That breaks my heart
evin21
All the women were in the kitchen where they belong.
alicetullyhall
Anna Lindh had only male ofspring. Are you revealing that one of her children is transsexual?
thefurredreich
weirdo
VikingLlama
I dont think you read that right
Casswigirl11
Or the kid was a boy... His mother was the politician he knew best.
kukbert
She was murdered in 2003 by a mad man without a real motive, other than that he'd seen her on billboards :(
fileiddiz
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Lindh#Murder
ifmusicbethefoodofloveplayon
After reading the wikipedia entry, it seems her widower died in 2010, rendering her two sons orphans. :(
kukbert
Yes, and that's a tragic story in itself. He couldn't cope with her death and pretty much drank and took pills for years until he died :(
keyblader1985
Good God; I was hoping this was some kind of sick joke.
alicetullyhall
Anna Lindh had only male ofspring. Are you revealing that one of her children is transsexual?
thegirlfromtheplaceyouknow
Did you really ask this question twice?
StaleGale
What...? Boys can't ask where all the girls are...?
tiuhti1
You are revealing yourself to be an idiot.
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kukbert
Wwe don't know if it was simliar to the murder of Olof Palme, because that's never been resolved.
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kukbert
Well, he was some sort of maniac, claimed he heard voices etc. And it's very much confirmed that he did kill her. With Palme, nobody knows.
MrRgrs
I was just about to ask about that. I heard about Palme in the Millenium Series(The Girl with the Dragon Tatoo).
kukbert
There's alot of theories about the murder who all seem likely, but non are even close to being confirmed. It's a very weird case.
whiskeyvillage
I giggled.
AnaesthetizedCephalopod
bbruok
Me too.
ThatSmirkingHorseFromHighgarden
PrincessNakedMoleRat
I exhaled rather loudly several times consecutively.
Glowstickpowder
Oi! U 'avin a giggle there m8?
ShelobTheGreat
Am I missing a reference? Why was she removed??
Corporate29
Cause.
TheSparkySparkyBoomMan
It seems most aren't getting the joke that Hilary would have nothing to do with politics if not for her husband, ex-prez Bill
iRecommendBooks
As a joke, hinging on some conception of what it means to be feminine and some perception that Hillary doesn't fit that idea.
ShelobTheGreat
Hmm, I looked into it and people also see her as a robot of sorts. So it's like she's not human and doesn't think for herself!
alreadyfamous
Just making a guess but maybe because everyone thinks it's her husband doing all her work?
TheBlackShakes
Very few people seem to think that, and it actually seems rather unlikely
jab30
Because Republicans and other assholes think being a woman in a position of power automatically makes her a guy. Or something.
ImDisappointedInMyFavorites
Or she's just a shitty person.
ShelobTheGreat
Hmm, I looked into it and people also see her as a robot of sorts. So it's like she's not human and doesn't think for herself!
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Kaleopolitus
I literally don't know who she is :/
acarnivalmantra
Hey there non-American.
Kaleopolitus
Glad to see we're still being recognized as existing ;) At times I worry the US might forget about us all except the oil states.
Mitchz95
Hillary Clinton.
Kaleopolitus
Ah. Cheers.
AFancyGentleman
So illustrative, and so depressing.
KUURTLURNN
not at all
AFancyGentleman
Oh? Do go on.
KUURTLURNN
I'm all for women in these positions as long as they're the most quantified...if that is what you were referring
ingelri
Not really. Who do you think votes for all of these men? Women are ~50% of the population, after all.
flight815down
I'm pretty sure that makes it even more depressing. Women are often sexist against women
ingelri
That's pretty insulting and infantilising. Why would you assume that women aren't capable of making their own conscious choices?
flight815down
What? That's not remotely what I'm saying. Being a woman doesn't excuse your sexism nor does it exclude you from it.
ingelri
that women, thankfully, do not vote based on gender, but on policy.
ingelri
Yes, but why is a woman sexist for not voting for women, when women aren't even running for politics? If anything, that would indicate...
Bloodandpheromones
There was a study demonstrating that when women were 30% of a crowd scene, they were perceive to be 50% of the crowd
StofoSho
Sausage fest
TigerToothTools
Why is this a thing?
Onlyupvotesanimals
You do realize that equating an accomplished woman to a man is one of the barriers that prevent women from joining politics...
ATimeTravellingRobotFromTheFuture
You do realise there are no barriers stopping women from getting into politics except most women aren't interested in that job...
ingelri
A lot of precious feeling running rampant here. You're right obviously, women are being incentivised up the wazzoo, they just won't do it.
TheGrapeGatsby
Came down here to say that.
implodingrat
i dont understand that argument. Male politicians get plenty of flak aswell
FwdReRe
Sorry, but that makes a bad politician. If you plan a career in politics, expect that at least half of the population will hate you anyway.
poochyena
If images on imgur stop you from joining politics, then I really doubt you'll be a good politician.
schmoo38
So ironic.
terribleinternetpunsfirstborn
I.... don't understand. Could you elaborate?
Onlyupvotesanimals
I should preface this by saying that many girls look up to H.C. If we want to incentivize women to join politics, (1/?)
Onlyupvotesanimals
HC is as competent and as politically savvy as any accomplished politician, but it does not make her any less of a woman.(3/?)
Onlyupvotesanimals
we should not then shame or condemn them when they become successful by labelling them as men.(2/?)
Onlyupvotesanimals
Let us not pretend that there is no sexist subtext here, either, which is inherent in many Hillary-bashing posts on imgur and reddit...(4/?)
terribleinternetpunsfirstborn
Oh, OK, I completely misunderstood you. I thought you were referring to the shopping men out of the pictures, not the Clinton joke
robbybox
Yeah, I'm also not understanding this... do you mean comparisons like "she's so capable it's almost as though she's a guy"?
LindaClaudine
From underrepresentation of women in power to just another slam on Mrs. Clinton. Powerful women scare some - easier to just denigrate.
LargeCanine
Women in politics do not scare anyone.
DoctorWatchamacallit
no, some of us just hate her because she's broken the law and proven herself both incompetent and a liar on multiple occasions
44no44
Imgur is mostly in support of Bernie and considers Hillary to be a slimy politician. She isn't opposed for being "powerful".
rarebix
No, she's mocked for being a powerful woman. It makes some sad little people uncomfortable.
humbledham
Pretty sure everyone here doesn't even know what she's done in the last five apart from heresay and general sentiment.
LindaClaudine
Give me Bernie or Hillary over any of the GOP's field. What outrageous lies has she told?
44no44
She doesn't really lie, but she changes her stance to whatever the public starts to show interest in, so some question her true platform.
poligrafpoligrafovich
Everyone wait for the imgurian complaining about the matriarchy and woman dominated government chopping off our penises.
andydicktracymorganfairchild
Rawr rawr rawr, like anyone can understand your bear talk.
poligrafpoligrafovich
Oh honey, just because you're having a hard time doesn't mean everyone is.
andydicktracymorganfairchild
My intention was to satirize my own hetero-patriarchal perceptions. Sorry if I offended you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jz9sX_yk2UU
NorfolkBoy
Please, they don't chop off Penii, they just "nip the tip". http://imgur.com/ajSaaDj Yes, You found the guy complaining about sexist laws.
NorfolkBoy
Of course, it's not a gender issue, plenty of men denny the male infants of the world body autonomy and plenty of women don't want to cut.
ingelri
Looks like you triggered a lot of legbeards
NorfolkBoy
Meh, I actually understand &sympathises with men who get defensive about circumcision. When it's been done to you, criticising it is hard.
dullgenericusername
In my view that isn't a sexist thing, it's a human rights thing.You'd need a damn good reason to mutilate a childs genitals for it to be ok
dullgenericusername
In my view that isn't a sexist thing, it's a human rights thing.You'd need a damn good reason to mutilate a childs genitals for it to be ok
NorfolkBoy
Unless you think there's a good reasons to allow male cutting over female cutting, then it's a sexist issue. Only one is met with outrage.
WowSoSparkly
Do not compare the two if you want to be taken seriously. The equivalent of female mutilation is basically like chopping a dick off.
WowSoSparkly
Downvotes?Ok, fem mut : cutting outer+inner labia, removal of the clitoris (some here might need to google what it is), sewing the rest up.
ihavealteredmyusernameagainprayidontalteritanyfurther
The Matriarchy is out of control the woman dominated power structure is going to castrate us all, MEN UNITE!!!!!
ihavealteredmyusernameagainprayidontalteritanyfurther
not really I just didn't want you to be disappointed.
ILivUndrUrBed
That was nice of you
Smenj
Think people should be elected because they are good at politics and their gender should not even be a factor
JordanRapp
Exactly 1+
KUURTLURNN
You understand how the world should work, thank you!
cheezysockets
Well yeah nobody is saying differently but thanks anyway. Question is why such an imbalance.
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Keydan
Also hormones are a factor..;
ijustwannafavoriteshit
Do we know that emma Watson isn't a politician?!
iTouchYourCatAtNight
Jezus christ this guy got told
MrBananaBeak
Did you know that the entire purpose of this is a joke, not a political statement? So accuracy isn't exactly relevant?
IDidntKnowWhattoMakeMyUsernameSoIMadeThis
If not for the joke, it is a rather powerful political statement anyway
MrBananaBeak
If it were an actual statement, I'd have a real problem with the cherrypicking.
ordohereticusinquisitor
The UN uses celebrities as ambassadors. I read an article where some Guerrillas wouldn't stand down unless they George Cloony met with them.
visualvendetta
Makes you wonder what Angelina Jolie had to do !
WrongUn
am i the only one that thought the thumbnail was sarah michelle gellar?
Treblaine
If Deez Nuts counts as a politician...
bakezzz
It took me a solid minute to figure out the first and second pic were different...
farwall
Nobody said politicians, just politics. She was acting in a political capacity.
QUALITYCONTR0L
neither is the Queen
t9rice
She's also still not a man. Re-read the title. This is only removing men.
Teetseremoonia
She's da reggae ambassador
FaceDownButtUp
"we" hngh stop with the hivemind
chloramphenicolderivative
The queen however, is by law not a politician.
jsktrogdor
Also that there are three other women in that photograph.
ilovemyboobs
I'm glad im not the only person that noted that.
Kiore
Hey, that's an interesting observation, you're right!
jsktrogdor
I almost always am.
OminousNomNom
Did you know she's a UN Women Goodwill Ambassador?
chooseday
The UN, haha. Funny joke.
SpecimenSpiff
Now I do!
Theertzuinianer
Well Anita Sarkeesian and Zoey Quinn recently spoke before the UN as well, so that's not really a seal of quality anymore.
TheTwoRaptorsYouDidntEvenKnowWereThere
Why does Goodwill need an Ambassador, I thought they just sold stuff to homeless people and Macklemore
OminousNomNom
Ha ha ha <------my reply
AceOfShovels
Thanks for clarifying
HappinessIsaColdPint
What what, what what? What what, what what?
BlueElephant92
an UN ambassador is surely a high duty, but its not a classical politician like the persons in the other pictures so he has a point
amnotamoose
Not a UN ambassador. UN Women is independent, and her title does not grant her political power.
visualvendetta
No, it's a purely ceremonial position usually occupied by elfin or doe-eyed actresses as a PR exercise to melt liberal hearts. Nobody cares.
SpyMonkey3D
Does somebody care about the UN, and this particular branch ? Also, why select an actress, couldn't they get Malala ?
visualvendetta
No, Malala was busy ordering Harvard to automatically enroll her. They told her to eff off and takes some SATs, then we'll see. True story,
DirtyA
Did you know she's an actress with no idea what she's talking about?
Rengii
Why do you assume that? The fact she went to an Ivy League school means she's smarter than most people.
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IamRickySpanish
You're
visualvendetta
Ah-ha-ha-ha-haaaaaa! Try telling, Gates, Allen, Zuckerberg and company that.
chinablue
W Bush went to an Ivy league , books smarts, street smarts and common sense are different levels of knowing what your talking about.
Rengii
So how does one attain this 'knowledge of what they're talking about' that qualifies them to be UN Goodwill Ambassador?
IamRickySpanish
You're
ScoreQuest
*richer
xuvial
She's a what now? Is a Goodwill Ambassador similar to Super Kame Guru?
IPegOnTheFirstDate
http://www.unwomen.org/en/partnerships/goodwill-ambassadors/emma-watson
DoctorJungyBrongen
haha I bet they paid more to take that picture than I paid for my car.
RealScienceMan
I find it funny that the URL is unwomen, and sounds like it might be an anti women hate group.
Crimslers
Too bad its a joke. Zoey Quinn, Anita Sarkeesian and the rest of the Injustice League assemble to try and coin 'Cyber Violence' as assault.
SpecimenSpiff
Huh!
TheUnapologeticCanadian
Props to her aside, that is the most smoldering bio picture ever.
fileiddiz
Blue steel!
jsktrogdor
1/2 I used to think it was an exaggeration that women arent represented equally in TV & film. Then I made up a game where I count the number
jackbos
TV? Seriously? About half the shows on TV are targeted toward women and are completely dominated by female castmembers.
jsktrogdor
I thought so too. But go do the count. I've never seen it even close to equal. My TV specific queue is 82 men, 31 women and 1 Pikachu.
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WhatTheKatDraggedIn
As a woman who watches many female focused shows (Mindy Project, Greys Anatomy etc), my count was 74 men and 33 women.
WhatTheKatDraggedIn
Upon trying this, I noticed that even shows that are supposed to focus women there were always just as many if not more men in the thumbnail
dirtcreature
There is no such thing as equality. Human equations do not balance on genetalia
ilovemyboobs
I balance on my feet.
ItsARepostFiveOutOfSevenTimes
2/2 of dicks in my mouth. One time I had to start counting with my toes.
ingelri
kek
veronicamarsdestroyerofworlds
Bechdel test changed my life
ilovemyboobs
Bechdel test helped me get into better television and movies.
andydicktracymorganfairchild
Today my cats helped me get into my pants.
DamnRightItsBetterThanYours
Like the Bechdel test (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bechdel_test). Changed the way I look at TV & film when I started to think about it.
MMQuiteContrary
Damnit I was just gonna write this and saw you beat me to it. It really is frustrating once you start noticing it.
DamnRightItsBetterThanYours
It's horrifying. How many movies have men as main characters and women as background/accessory but the opposite is rarely true.
AgentFoo
It's really interesting. Funny thing: The movie The Pact actually fails in the inverted Bechdel test & I didn't notice until almost over!
Leithoa
Art imitating life. No real mystery or malice here.
jsktrogdor
I think you could argue they should try to hire more women *creators* to make art that imitates *their* life though.
ingelri
If there were as many competitive and talented female creators as there are men, and an equal demand for their work, they probably would.
Leithoa
2)I'm simply saying we shouldn't be surprised that more women aren't in certain roles when it reflects the real world.
Leithoa
Sure, I'm not saying they shouldn't. But if a show is trying to be realistic they shouldn't have every nurse be male & every cop be a woman.
WayneTheSnake
Have you heard of the Bechdel Test? I find myself thinking about it from time to time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bechdel_test
Corason
The Bechdel test was a joke in the first place.
Lyse89
The Bechdel test is made up by a comic writer that made fun of these "problems" that some take it serious is worrying.
DavidBrooker
The issue is when people use it as an actual test instead of an observation about culture.
GnomeAnn
I learned that from Cracked.
RideTheStimutacs
My only gripe with it is that it's binary and ignores context. Pacific Rim was very female-positive and race-positive, but fails the test.
EarlMoray
It's not intended to look at context. It's simply a metric that measures the number of women of import. The point isn't a specific film 1/
RideTheStimutacs
Oh I know the purpose, unfortunately most people don't use it that way.
EarlMoray
It's that the vast majority of films fail Bechdel but almost nothing fails reverse Bechdel. 2/2
TheFlyingScottsman
Gravity fails the test
PlutoIsSoAPlanet
The movie has two characters. Lots of films will fail the test for good reasons, but so many fail for bad reasons.
KayDigs
Well it's not meant as a binary pass/fail for individual movies, just as a way to look at trends.
Chocolateinvestigator
Npr did an article recently about how in film at least, that is changing
EarlMoray
Uhh, what's NPR smoking? The numbers for women in the film industry haven't changed in decades....
tresfab333
They've been saying that for decades. But I've read articles recently too about how things haven't changed practically at all these past [1]
tresfab333
20 years. Every now and then you have films starring women seem more visible, but the reality is women usually make up just 28% of the [2]
tresfab333
characters in family films, 30% of all speaking characters in the Top 100 grossing movies, and, crucially, just 15% of protagonists (tho [3]
tresfab333
they're over half the population and half the moviegoing audience). The numbers for women BEHIND the camera - directors and writers, [4]
jsktrogdor
Honestly, I dont think it's a huge deal. It's something that will naturally evolve as society does.
tresfab333
I have no idea why significantly unequal representation wouldn't be a big deal to you (unless you're a hetero white man). [1]
jsktrogdor
Because they're only movies.
tresfab333
But there's real social/cultural reasons FOR that disparity. It's not RANDOM that hetero white men are disproportionately overrepresented[1]
tresfab333
They've been saying it's changing for decades, but it never comes close to parity, and we keep having 30% of the population dramatically [2]
tresfab333
overrepresented in our media and particularly in the halls of power.[3]
jsktrogdor
2/2 of men & women in the thumbnails of my Netflix suggestion category. Try it yourself. My current count: 43 men, 24 women & two penguins.
insertreallyfunnyusername
Does it really matter though, can you only enjoy a film if it's 50% men 50% woman?
SweetZombiJesus
Films about older eras are more likely to have men, as women had less power then. The real test would be with films set in modern times.
azurepenguin
+1 for penguin representation
Justapartofyourimagination
I was suggested a lot of anime on Netflix... so I don't think it would count but the women there WAY out number dudes.
Purkkaleiri
+1 for counting penguins as a gender.
SanicDaHejog
Penguins are underrepresented in media! #YesAllPenguins
WhoDidYouExpect
So what do we get from this? Penguins are being discriminated against. Step up your game, Civil Rights Activists.
Mr107
Doing that for tv shows maybe a fun drinking game
KnucleheadFlow
What did it for me was counting how often two women characters talk to each other when it's not about a man (not often usually)
pixelsnader
"netflix suggestion category“ - could be biased on your tastes. Chick flicks vs action shooters.
mcdude21
That might explain why my feed is 99/100 hot, naked chicks in a van or on a sofa.
jsktrogdor
It works for "popular right now" and "recently added" and new accounts too -- without preferences. The game almost always ends up the same.
kuemmel
Would be interesting how much of this would be history/war themed. I'm not saying this isn't the case (just have a look at action movies..).
kuemmel
2 fantasy is a whole different thing, and there should be more females in current and future settings(Sicario might be an ironic example).
kuemmel
To clarify: ("So there were no women in history?") wwii movies tend to have few females. Same goes for (historic) politics, adventure,..
pajamasalldaylong
War movies in the 1910s were balanced, if not more about women. Civil war girl spies, cross-dressed soldiers, etc.
kuemmel
But are these supposed to be "historic" movies? Movies like Master and Commander, Saving Private Ryan? If so: Any suggestions?
BaconLatte
What gender were the penguins though?
YosoyIamJesuisIosonoIchbin
Yes
qussow
They were gay penguins. Parks and Rec, yo.
madddawggg
If Madagascar, they're all male...
Flyndaran
I believe you'd have to ask them to know for sure. Ha, gender identity joke.
Kefikens
Honey, you can't just ask that.
jsktrogdor
Uh, excuse me?! Dont try to force your cis-scum-shitlord pronouns down their non-gender-conformist vegan throats.
rancidasscookies
OH SWEET YOU PC TOO BRO?
andyskeels
But... but.... but they eat fish.
CanOpenersOnTheirFaces
I would appreciate more movies with leading women that wasn't all about her love life.
klitosaurushex
So there are studies that show that if men see a population of equal no. of men and women, they'll say there are more women than men.
Mohead12
We just look past the guys and look at the women to see if they're attractive. It's instinctive.
klitosaurushex
So men are driven by instinct only? That probably makes them terrible at leading a country through sound, rational thought.
jsktrogdor
That's not what they said....
jsktrogdor
Those are what inspired my game. If I remember right, it's true of women as well. Our eyes think that like 7 men and 3 women is equal.
klitosaurushex
It doesn't even out until there are about 2/3 men and 1/3 women within a group that men will say that there are an equal number.
mechanimated
It's the same for speaking time. In studies where men and boys were asked to rate how much speaking time their colleagues and classmates /1
mechanimated
got, boys and men would say the women and girls got more time if the speaking time was even, and got even time if it was about 70% male. /2
stinkytulips
There are plenty of studies that say women are "bat shit crazy." Those are the ones I trust.
ITalkAboutGoats
And I trust the ones that say men are "pigs" so...
4forReagan
Sauce? I'd love to read this.
klitosaurushex
http://inthesetimes.com/article/16157/our_feminized_society
Flyndaran
To most cultures, the default human is a man. That's what man originally meant, with woman meaning female human.
ingelri
That's pretty much entirely incorrect.
OSCgal
Not true. "Man" was gender-neutral. Male human was "wereman". (So when did gender-neutral "man" start to mean "male" specifically?)
TheThingsTheyCarried
If memory serves me right, women ALSO see it that way.
EarlMoray
Yeah. It's not a men thing, it's a society thing. We're all socialised to do it
joeyfield
Have you tried watching anime?
andydicktracymorganfairchild
Have you disabled the external inertial dampener?
jsktrogdor
There were three animes in that tally.
shiquo
❹ anime after anime, the female characters are just there to literally sit around crying and jiggle their junk.
shiquo
❶ Yeah, it's challenge to find animes where the female characters don't fall into one of 4 categories: 1) Side-character eye-candy,
shiquo
❸ ⁽ʷʰᶦᶜʰ ᶦˢ ʲᵘˢᵗ ᵃˢ ʷʳᵒᶰᵍ⁾ 4) Water-balloon-boobs. I mean, it gets pretty old after a while when
shiquo
❷ 2) Fan service, 3) Over-emotional/tear-sprinklers/needing-to-be-protected to give the man protagonist a reason to stand up and "be a man",
walterpeck
This is why Black Lagoon and GITS: SAC are two of my favorites.
smogswallowssuns
Black Lagoon. One of my all-time favorite shows.
Waidonut
Even when we get a few cool women in movies, they also rarely get merch too compared to male characters *looking at you Marvel*
TheBoozehoundBitch
a company just got in deep for editing a Star Wars shirt so the picture from the movie had Luke in what should have been Leia's place
littlemirrorsatourfeet
Yes! Black Widow is hardly pictured on anything! My nieces want BW and Gamorra toys and they're nearly impossible to find :/
Waidonut
I couldn't even find BW toys alone, she's always thrown in as an extra with the guy merch. It's rediculous!
faithealer
My son wanted GotG pajamas and when we go them home, he asks "Where's Gomarrah?" Not there. I told him she was driving the ship. Annoying.
Stabbadabbadoo
I have read comics all my life and have Angela, Captain Marvel and Gamora as my favorite characters, I have to make my own damn merch :(
Waidonut
I know right! I couldn't even find Black Widow by herself on the Disney Infinity line, everyone else got their own merch but not her.
Stabbadabbadoo
I especially don't understand it considering how many new female-focused comics they are pushing out. It is making it seem like they don't -
Stabbadabbadoo
- Think that these comics and characters REALLY count. Doesn't feel good as a fan to be snubbed that way :/
parentingandvice
What do we want? A Black Widow movie! When do we want it? NOW!
JimWest
Well, I mean, most of us really started wanting it a few years ago.
Waidonut
They can't even give us decent friggen action figures! Half the Avengers movie merch they just take BW out too. LET ME GIVE YOU MONEY MARVEL
RideTheStimutacs
Yet it's amazing how many hoops MRAs will jump through to tell you that's not the case and that women have no barriers in any profession.
jsktrogdor
Just like how many hoops feminists will jump through to tell you that everything wrong with their lives is society's fault.
ingelri
You mean the mysterious, unproven, unprovable workplace gender barrier nonsense peddled by the same people behind the pay gap myth?
Nobodyn0se
Found the MRA.
ingelri
I forgot, evidence is a tool of the patriarchy.
Nobodyn0se
It's really amazing to me how many replies you have proving your point without a hint of irony.
Ihmhi
They generally don't. There's an excellent documentary on this from a few years ago on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiJVJ5QRRUE
poochyena
Can men be a majority in ANYTHING without claims that they are only majority because sexism?
RideTheStimutacs
Sorry we live in a white-dominated patriarchal society?
rexzeer
Yes: any dangerous or demeaning job.
intooblv
Prostate and testicular cancer?
nichijoudan
Most Feminists ignore the most prevalent barrier: the woman herself. There'd be so many more women in STEM if not for her lack of interest.
hencethequeef
I'd argue that it's a socially constructed lack of interest. As a girl, I was told repeatedly that women were better at arts than math.
nichijoudan
As a boy, I was constantly told not to be a computer programmer. Somehow I knew what I wanted to do and did it despite "conditioning".
Randomcomma
(2) Also, there's the difference between discouragement by family and society in general and discouragement by only one of them.
Randomcomma
Maybe examining the life of a single individual doesn't tell us much about the trends that affect whole populations.
jeffreybaratheon
Okay, I get the joke, but this is also pretty jarring to realize just how uneven the representation is.
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Darkslayerryuu2
Its not like women cant join politics. Everyone acts like they just ban women from doing it. Its simple a lot if women just dont want to (1)
Darkslayerryuu2
(2) be politicians. Thats all. Theres no more barriers than men have getting into politics.
amadteaparty81
There are more women than men voting. Regardless of the politicians sex these people have been chosen by women (and men) to represent them.
IzhuTupid
Wish I could stand Iceland, where women are rockin' a solid 40% rep in government!
implodingrat
i know right? i wish more women would run for office!
cinemaislifeandviceversa
But this imbalance will continue to be eroded with our generation and our childrens' generations.
StooperDave
Its not a male conspiracy. Its lack of will to run. You never see very many women on the ballot for big stuff. Simple numbers game.
jeffreybaratheon
I'm not saying it's a conspiracy, I'm saying culturally we discourage women from going into politics. Why do you think so few run? Biology?
StooperDave
Calling bullshit on that. When they run a fair percentage get elected. If women think they cant run because they are women, thats their prob
jeffreybaratheon
So what do you give as your explanation for why women don't run?
terithian
It's nice that things are changing, though. Of the four MP candidates on my ballot in the recent Canadian election, 2 were women.
BobCratchet
The point still stands in general, but there are 191 women in the House of Commons. That picture is not representative.
jeffreybaratheon
Fair enough, but that's still roughly 1/3 vs 1/5.
BobCratchet
I count around 32 (?) women in that photo. There are 650 members of parliament. I'm just saying that's a well chosen photo for this point.
Flyndaran
What if women politicians actually attend more works days on average? American senators skip more days than they attend.
jeffreybaratheon
Oops, that should say 1/2, not 1/5.
ImAnSJW
It's funny because this type of "joke" is a big reason why the representation is so uneven.
ingelri
So, men aren't fit to represent women in politics? Who do you think votes for all of these dudes? ~50% of the pop is female, after all.
ATimeTravellingRobotFromTheFuture
Not to mention people have been making jokes about male politicians since the dawn of politics.
DoctorWatchamacallit
yep. Look at ancient Roman political jokes.
ATimeTravellingRobotFromTheFuture
No it isn't. Women not going into politics and women not voting for women in politics is why it's uneven.
ingelri
You triggered someone, that's for sure.
ATimeTravellingRobotFromTheFuture
Yeah, seems that way. Funny how it's all downvotes and no reasonable response.
kuemmel
That's why there's some sense in the "Frauenquote" (women's quota)which says that a certain percentage of politics or firmreps must be women
Strandforce
I've always hated forced quotas. Sorry, you can't have this job even though you meet the qualifications. We have enough penises.
Kongur
Do you have enough truck drivers? Being women can be seen as a quality like any other. Even so, it should be still be used with caution.
kuemmel
Yeah, that's my problem as well. Especially with firms and science. It shouldn't be about private parts. But! ->
kuemmel
This quota, as I understand it, is there to be just for a short time, get people to get used to fewer penises and then strike it.
ArianSanders
Oh so you only fuck over more qualified men until some committee decides now that people are used to women it can be even again?
StooperDave
No sense in quotas of any type. The best candidate should win, fair and square.
kuemmel
Of course! I wasn't implying my full agreement with "there's some sense in there". But things are not black and white.
LockedKeye
Can you A, prove that representation is an objective good, B, prove that it's lack is an objective evil, and C, indicate what level of
LockedKeye
representation satisfies the requirements of the objective good? If you cannot, your position is insufficiently developed.
kuemmel
Read what I wrote, I was talking about "some sense". It's an idea to talk about. I don't support it, quite the opposite. ->
kuemmel
But talking about "good","evil" and "objective" doesn't work. Also if you could prove "equal representation" as "good", the lack of it ->
kuemmel
Would already imply the absence of good. Which might be called evil by stretching the definition of it. And don't get me started on your C.
Leithoa
Is it A) Someone keeping women out of politics by design, B) Women (in general) don't enjoy politics or C) Some third option
ingelri
Obviously, the answer is A) the conspiracy theory. And the solution is, naturally, more incentives and gender quotas.
YouWillJustDownVoteMeAnyway
100% unequivocally undeniably B
LockedKeye
Well, given that in the US women have been a majority of the voting population for years...
Kroesus
Only 250 out of 799 candidates were women at the Danish 2015 general election. 26% of the 250 women were elected, 20% of the men were.
Darkslayerryuu2
Its B . Theres no one saying they cant enter politics. Posts like this try to get you to believe that which is bullshit.
seoulfoundation
Maybe you should learn what implicit biases are.
Darkslayerryuu2
So you are telling me people just draw a red line in industries and say "no women can work here!". Bullshit thats also illegal
seoulfoundation
No, that's absolutely not what I'm telling you. Again, I'm talking about IMPLICIT biases.
Darkslayerryuu2
Maybe you should work in a stem field and see for yourself. Its more people trying to make it into a SJW issue when it isnt lol
MantisTobagganMD
A little of column A, little of column B. A little of column C, too.
Leithoa
Choice A is illegal in the western world & needs to be prosecuted if that's the case.
ArianSanders
No A is the whole men held women back so long that even when things are even they are still in the men's favor argument.
ingelri
Right. I take it this is hard science, and not just a conspiracy theory or a hunch.
Leithoa
1)That's not what choice A) is at all. 2)Your argument is absurd and insulting to women. "Women have been so mistreated they aren't equals"
AuntieMeat
I wouldn't say it that we don't enjoy politics, we just don't enjoy/get burned out on continually fighting against the ideas others (1/2)
poochyena
If you don't enjoy fighting ideas, then what would you be doing as a politician?
Ultrabutts
If you don't want to fight then why would I vote for you?
AuntieMeat
(2/2) we'd work with have regarding our worth/abilities. I've had similar feelings myself as a woman in a tech field. I've legit had (2/3?)
AuntieMeat
(3/3) people ask for a man to do a job that I've spent 10 years doing, based on my gender alone.
Imosa
I'd be careful about speaking for an entire gender there.
zhukoz
I am female and a complete political junkie but would run for the hills @ the suggestion to go into politics Politicians are born not made &
bedsound
Women have only recently begun winning elections at a comparable rate to men. Some sexism in nomination, some in the general public
ingelri
Who do you think votes for all of these men? Women are ~50% of the population, after all. Thankfully, most women don't vote by gender.
Leithoa
Forget how many are winning for a sec, how many are running? If 80% of the candidates are men, why would you expect +20% female politicians
Smackagepackage
And yet more women vote than men
bedsound
That's the sexism in nomination I was talking about. Or a society that just does not value what a woman has to say so she never runs.
Leithoa
2)That last one is gonna be hard to prove.
Leithoa
You're flat wrong here. http://content.gallup.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/b5u6hoss10avdhdfdaep3g.png
Leithoa
Not sure where you're at but in the US most offices are direct election, where you don't get nominated to run. You just file paperwork.
ingelri
Right, but there's not really any basis for that argument. There could be many reasons for it, doesn't have to be a conspiracy.
DoctorWatchamacallit
this is a REALLY good point. If women just aren't interested, then why should we care about uneven distribution? Who are we to force 1)
DoctorWatchamacallit
2) people into jobs they don't want to do just so we can say "the seats are evenly filled"?
Leithoa
There's some other stuff in there too. If women aren't interested: Why not? Is this something we can do better? Women in the west attend and
Leithoa
3)don't like the bureaucratic & competitive atmosphere in academia. That doesn't mean we have to keep it this way.
Leithoa
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/women-earning-greater-share-stem-degrees-doctorates-remain-gender-skewed/
Leithoa
2)complete Universities at higher rates than men, but men make up the majority of PhDs & tenure faculty. A couple studies suggest that women
DoctorWatchamacallit
there's also studies that suggest women just tend to think differently than men and have different life goals
DoctorWatchamacallit
5) social work?
DoctorWatchamacallit
4) if that is a result of women not WANTING to go that route, than how is that any different than the fact that there are far less men in
DoctorWatchamacallit
2) Not that I don't support going outside the norm, but I don't think we should be trying to push groups of people into something
DoctorWatchamacallit
3) they have no interest in. That's Not equality. That's authoritarian. So what if women gain more College degrees but men get more PhDs?
Cuntard
Do you think men are incapable of representing women? Do you feel the same way about women representing men?
jeffreybaratheon
I don't mean representing as in representing their gender, I mean representing as in their presence as a percentage of the whole.
jeffreybaratheon
Women are underrepresented in the sense that if they make up 50% of the population, why aren't they roughly 50% of politicians?
hypocriticalhuman
You represent yourself at all times.
Cuntard
Because women choose to run for office less.
Wrkncacnter
They could be if women voted for other women.
ATimeTravellingRobotFromTheFuture
Because women don't go for the jobs and women don't vote for women when they do go for the jobs. Your vote is no less powerful than mine.
BobCratchet
Well said. Unless you genuinely think women are inferior to men, why the fuck would it matter anyway.
applesforjuice
I think anyone can be a politician... You just go get elected. So either women trust men more or less women run.
applesforjuice
Or less women vote.
jeffreybaratheon
For everyone saying women don't run - why do you think that is? Really doubt it's just intrinsic in their biology. Cultural factors at play.
Leithoa
Why should we expect them to be?
jrntn
If you roll a die a thousand times, it's gonna land on each side a roughly equal amount of times, unless something is out of balance.
Leithoa
That's exactly my question. Why should we expect the factors to be equally distributed?
ATimeTravellingRobotFromTheFuture
This analogy is stupid. People CHOOSE to go into politics and then the public VOTE them in. There's nothing random about it.
Cuntard
This might start resembling a valid argument if equal numbers of men and women chose to run for office. And if each individual politician 1/
Cuntard
Wasn't a different person. Unless you are naive enough to claim that the ONLY measurable difference between politicians is biological sex?
Cuntard
Are white people underrepresented in the nba? They make up over 70% over the U.S. Population and only 17% of NBA players
Baconmac1234
Comparing a sport to World Politics is stupid.
Cuntard
No, it's actually a very good comparison. Because all people are equal, unless there is some -ism preventing it, every group of people 1/
Cuntard
Or, you have only memorized the same shite talking points and just simply can't come up with a logical rebuttal. Either way, think about 4
Cuntard
should completely match the demographics of the whole population. that's what you said in your die metaphor. My guess is that you realize 2
Cuntard
what I said and really ask yourself which makes more sense... 5
Cuntard
that I'm right and you are too entrenched in your ideology to question it, so instead you'll just write off my argument as 'stupid' 3
sk8tergater
I think the current "war on women" if you will, proves blatantly that old white dudes do NOT represent women capably. At least not in the US
Cuntard
What war on women? They have more rights than men. Also, women make up the majority of voters, so they're electing these old white dudes
sk8tergater
What rights do I have as a woman that a man doesn't have? Please, tell me. I have not heard that more women vote. Sources would be nice.
Cuntard
More women voters: https://www.census.gov/hhes/www/socdemo/voting/publications/p20/2012/Table04b.xls
Cuntard
going to prison. You have the right to bodily autonomy/genital integrity. Family court laws favor you in any divorce/custody dispute. 2/
Cuntard
Even though men are just as likely to be victims of demotic violence as women, the Duluth model and the Violence Against Women Act legally 3
Cuntard
Assuming you live in US, you aren't required to register for selective services under penalty of loss of financial aid and potentially 1/
Cuntard
women from being held to that same standard 8
Cuntard
to be rapists. In the same vein, Title IX laws require colleges to deny men due process of law when accused of sexual assault and excludes 7
Cuntard
Thousands of female only scholarships they pay each year (even though the majority of college students are already female). And let's not 5
Cuntard
protect female abusers by defining men as default abusers. It is legal for the federal government to discriminate in favor of women in the 4
Cuntard
forget that rape is legally defined as the penetration of the vagina by a penis, so females are legally protected from being considered 6