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JayDeeDubs
That's what Gish builds are for! Dnd's bladesingers, Pathfinder's magus class, fun multiclass builds. Beat them up...with magic!
parabolic000
MUSCLE WIZARD CASTS FIST
Somegone
Gandalf was not affraid to slap orcs with his staff
murderhobbit
My 20STR Orc wizard agrees (but it's Pathfinder so his to-hit rolls still SUCK ASS but it's OK cuz he's the smartest AND strongest character in the group. Only the 19yo Half-elf Cleric girl can match his strength. The Paladin has an 18STR and can SUCK IIIITT)
Billis75
You don't need staff combat when you have UNLIMITED MAGIC!
KalypsoKirin
The DM wonders why my wizard has such high physical stats until I cast "bonk" at level 5 and knock a dudes head off.
CitrusyGarlic
I have a theory that Gandalf is maxed out on Wisdom, but has far more points in Strength than Intelligence. That's why he's so limited in what he can do magically (low mana pool) but can fight a Balrog all up and down a mountain
Freestila
SO in the German / European DnD like game DSA (Das Schwarze Auge) every mage has automatically some experience in staff fight. And he needs it, since you start with only enough Mana to kill one guy (if you don't fail and waste half of your mana) and it takes days of sleep to recover (sry mana potions are waay to expensive for normale people / player). Soo.. yeah. My black bage build is also a verry decent sword fighter.
OldSchoolNewRules
Grimmrog
Did that in shadows over river and star trail, it was always dope having your wizard hitting hard.
AgainstMethod
Gandalf throws down when he needs to, too.
spiceass9000
Wizards should carry short swords or at the very least daggers. They do in some lore. Make it more common
Baelnorn
I've got poison spray and shocking grasp if anything gets close. I only dipped fighter for heavy armor proficiency.
nixra073
GANDALF!
SomeDetroitGuy
At even 5th level - why use a stick that's +2 to hit, 1d8-1 damage when I can use my shocking grasp spell and slap you in the face with electricity at +7 to hit with advantage and does 2d8 + debuffs my enemy?
Kavrae
I really wish that Sentinel and Warcaster worked together to abuse that spell. It wouldn't be brokenly powerful and would make for a fun melee wizard playstyle.
nccomputermechanics4
Look up the spell transformation from 3.5 and pathfinder. It's what you do when all other spell slots are spent.
Rapt0rman
RyanH42
bril350
Whats the context? Knight walks in on princess having kinky affair with buff wizard?
Chopayleuh
You can't expect a mana invested character to spend skill points in useless melee skills when they have no stamina. What happens to a warrior when he runs out of stamina? That's right: he dies. He's not gonna conjure a fucking atronach and nobody tells him he should have taken up spellcasting. So DON'T tell my wizard he should learn melee combat. Why am I triggered right now???
archwaykitten
It depends on the DM. Most DMs balance their campaign around their players like "*phew* your party arrived just in time to save the day even though the Wizard took 20 minutes to climb the wall earlier". But it's easy to imagine campaigns in which physically inept wizards just never show up on time for anything.
bril350
Hence “a wizard is never late nor early he arrives precisely when he means too “ is a saying
Nismu
FireSolvesProblems
I need the sauce.
glamdring1
Mahou senshi louie, aka rune soldier. It was fun.
KazVonHoppel
what is this from?
Citrakite
My wizard tended to cast shocking grasp then throw hands. Mostly because Taser staff was out of charges. Wasn't about damage but making them lose their reaction so others could duck and weave him.
Skuggen
This was a point in the Discworld books (for a notable few of the wizards, mind, not as a norm).
Skuggen
His reasoning was that if some interdimensional horror couldn't be taken down with a few solid whacks from a 7-foot oak staff, it was probably immune to magic as well.
arkthan
but not immune to a half brick in a sock.
Illosernati
It's popularly called "wandless magic" but I call it "catching these hands".
TheBobbyLlama
FajitaPrinceofAllMexicans
Modern wizards are so boring and frail, throw your magic like you're from Avatar: The Last Airbender.
bril350
That just being a monk though
InTheBeginningWasTheNerd
Cultivator (aka magical Chinese wizard): "Frail"? *downs a bathtub of pills and punches reality in half, looks at you smugly from a trillion kilometres away* Are you sure?
YuffieK
madjo
The sentence “nun-chucks are just sticks with erectile stickfunction” lives rent free in my head.
OliverClothesoff70
I love stick. Stick is good.
ChrisYourself
I miss some of this guys content but he's really goober off the deep end now
Linkboy9
Don't make a habit of missing people who out themselves as nutters, but it is regrettable that he got big enough to be consulted on book four of the Stormlight Archive before he revealed how much of a prick he was.
LaronX
I only know a few of his videos, what happened?
SoupCanMan
Everything I don't like is woke. Woke kicked my puppy. Woke ruined my hollywood. Woke ruined kids these days. He has a second channel where him and his buddies recreate being Rupert Murdock personalities.
anjeer
I know I dropped him a few years ago when he tried to argue that Briene of Tarth was unrealistic because the average woman wouldn't be able to stand up against the strongest man.
At that point, I knew he was being unserious and was no longer worth my time.
Beardedgeek72
I actually dumped him without digging too deep into it after he decided to post review videos Marvel complaining about wokeness.
LaronX
well yeah yeah that would do it for me too.
LustrousShadow
A lot of people recommend Skallagrim as a more progressive content creator-- and that's fair, Skallagrim's content is good from what I remember. Personally, I'd like to recommend Lindybeige.
Beardedgeek72
Schola Gladiatora seems okay too.
SlyMrFox
He's been working on that comic, so his content flow on YouTube is slow. But I love his stuff. I recommend the Metatron.
madjo
I loved the Metatron's takedown of that Netflix thing about Cleopatra.
coreydeangibson6
Todd's workshop is good as well.
madjo
Living Anachronism is pretty good too
VioletCatastrophe
I'm not sure if Lindy got better... but he did make an entire climate change denialism video a while back. Which is weird because his content was otherwise fine. Skallagrim is great though.
LustrousShadow
I suppose I haven't seen that one. That is a bit concerning, yes.
hodormodor
He hasn't touched the subject since that cringey video. Mostly sticks to fun historical nuggets now.
SendMePicturesOfCheese
God, I hate this guy so much
KingXizor
glamdring1
So basically flex from doom patrol.
Corrodias
I would, but spending XP on class features is a zero-sum game. Every bit of training done for melee is a bit of training that cannot be done for more fireballs.
GundamHeavyarms
2e battle wizard was OP. IIRC you fighter up to 8 then switch to wizard up to 6 then multiclass them together.
emanymtonsisiht
WhyDontYouMakeMe
No wonder wisdom is a druid's dump stat, we have the presence of mind to magically transform into something that is good in combat in case we run out of spell slots
textilelover
...Druids are wisdom casters in every D&D edition I've played since 1982.
paintingagency
Gamey. IRL, if you train for a day now and then with a staff, you should be decent with it. But wizards study magic for literal decades. They can't spare a day now and then?
Daarst
If we want to keep the comparison to IRL, a wizard is better at fighting with a staff than a random villager but no where near what a trained fighter can do. It's all relative.
jsexton
It's not just training with the staff, it's the physical training to be strong/dextrous enough to wield it effectively. That takes a lot of time, and feels reasonably equivalent to taking a one level dip in fighter.
crypresthesia
A wizard is already going to have quite good dexterity in the hands and it doesn't take a lot of effort to stab or whack some hard with a glorified stick
paintingagency
Yes, a better argument is like this... that wizards aren't reasonably able to train for a warrior's strength.
Corrodias
Mhm. Sadly, game systems tend not to work that way. d20, for example, treats character level and class levels as semi-independent; at each character level, you can choose to add a level of a class, but you don't get to spend only as much XP as needed to have a 1-level gain in that class and use the rest for whatever else you want to; you must use all of it. Getting the Fighter class to level 1 costs as much as taking your Wizard from level 19 to level 20.
Wolvenlight
And this is why if you're going to multiclass, choose a powerful one. Like Blunt Force Wizard. The Arcane Winds are nice on their own, but nothing beats a wind resistant monster over the head better than an arcane tornado filled to the brim with several dozen oak staves.
Rystefn
Depends on the game system, though. Not all systems suck as bad as 3.x
Kavrae
A few other systems help this a bit. Exalted, for instances, breaks it down by purchased ability/stat/resource and costs more "experience" for higher tier stuff. So for the price of a single ultra powerful ability, you could get a half dozen things to "good enough". Of course, it has its own problems so it's not a perfect replacement by any means.
archwaykitten
It's on the DM to solve this, if they want to. Most DMs balance their campaign around their players like "*phew* you arrived just in time to save the day even though the wizard took 20 minutes to climb that wall earlier". But it's easy to imagine campaigns in which physically inept wizards never show up on time for anything. Like, yes, your min/max build would be OP as hell at level 20, but here at level 4 you need to be able to run a mile without taking a long rest after.
paintingagency
Climbing walls is why wizards learn a fly spell. But yeah. Related: I once tried to play Fallout 2 as a power-slut - basically seduce and screw my way through the game. Turns out the low-level monsters don't care how sexy you are and just kill you.
sadurdaynight
old-school D&D Black Master set had weapon masteries. You could become proficient, expert, master, grand master. So, you'd go from 1d6 staff damage to 1d8, 2d6, etc I think. But, it made it clear jumping through masteries was a major thing. Took weeks of training. Wizard going "gee I can be come proficient in my staff... or study the Wish spell.. hmm.. tough choice."
paintingagency
Mighty warrior stomps towards the party. Wizard: "I WISH you had taste buds in your arsehole." *runs*
JustFeedMePieDammit
The Harry Dresden school of wizard combat
smashpro1
There's a new video game coming out called "Wizard With a Gun". Sucks that it's a survival/crafting game.
Splosions
Harry having an entire hand ringed with force bands so he can punch a motherfucker with the force of an aircraft carrier full of screaming babies will never not be awesome.
SupernaturalReactions
Then he did the same thing with his Blasting Rod he made on Demonreach. Carved the rod with the runes over and over till it was like a freight train. Real Caveman Ugh feels....
Ultratoxic
Hannah Asher is spending an eternity in Heck for finding out the hard way about that new enchantment.
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IMPxScythe
Use the cantrip "I have a gun"
Ultratoxic
Every wizard has a plan till they get punched in the mouth.
amdkenobi
This reminds me of the when the dementors went after the wrong Harry video on villain helpdesk.
Smayds
Oh jeez I remember that, and Voldemort gets pissed because so many dementors died so Avada Kedavra's Dresden, who says "gesundheit" and just drives away 😂
DidgeryDrew
Came here to write this, Hoss...
Ultratoxic
There once was a writing prompt on Reddit that began "Hogwarts students, please welcome your newest Defense Against The Dark Arts instructor: Harry Blackstone Dresden!". But everyone pretty much agreed he'd have the Voldemort situation sorted by the end of book one when Dumbledore has to pull Harry off Quirrel as he yanks his turban off and just beats seven shades of shit out of him on the quad.
SupernaturalReactions
He did teach a class of young wizards in training in the short story "AAAA Wizardry" in "Brief Cases".
AutoFox
Smith & Wesson's Bolt of Greater Yeeting.
Aeonika
Dresden was like watching Bruce Willis get steadily more beat up in the die hard movies. Might have to reread.
SupernaturalReactions
Literally the end of every book: "and then I spent several weeks in the hospital/Charity's Sewing Room/Father Forthill's rectory healing and/or being mostly dead....
vwyx
And then my author stopped giving me that time off.
SupernaturalReactions
Mab ain't the only ice cold bitch....
Ultratoxic
Spent an entire book being mostly dead and STILL wasn't well rested at the end of it. My man gets no breaks.
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lucasmacdonald81101
Love how the fae are like, "Oh, you got shot by an assassin to try to get out of our deal? Well, it ain't gonna be that easy, my friend." I fucking love how the fae are drove in the Dresden series.
Ultratoxic
Mab was like "oh that was clever! No one has managed that level of defiance in centuries! I knew I made a good choice! I'm going to torture, I mean train you, up to be the best winner knight EVER!"
Ultratoxic
I really want someone to describe what they see when they are on the receiving end of Harry's soul gaze. It's getting to the point that it counts as a psychic attack and has undone several potential enemies just from them looking upon Harry's soul and being like "oh fuck no, not dealing with that shit". Denton said something about Hell? Wtf is going on in there?
SupernaturalReactions
The man doesn't have issues, he has volumes. He's a fulcrum, capable of great good or evil. The pawn of fate who has taken out both kings and queens, gods and demons. He is what comes after you've f_cked around and right before you find out.
EatsBees
he has reversed gravity itself with an earth spell he created in that moment. honestly, "Changes" did a great job of showing just how POWERFUL he is compared to the beginning of the series. he is the worst case scenario of a monster "finding out"
Ultratoxic
I went back and re-read (listened, whatever) to Storm Front and there are some interesting bits from the demon that offered info on his mom. Apparently she was very involved with the dark Lord himself but was redeemed in the end? Could Harry be part demon or at least have some sort of lenansidhe deal with the devil himself made on his behalf? I think Jim is going to have to do an adventure in Hell to help clarify what is going on in the down-below.
Ultratoxic
Case in point: the only reason Harry did what he did in changes was because of a whisper from maybe Satan himself, but because of that he "danced about in the shadows of death", and now has abilities and knowledge he could not have gained any other way. WHAT IF heaven and hell are actually working together on Harry to make him into.... Something. Something he's probably not going to enjoy, but what else is new?
Eridianne
A .44 magnum is a magic all its own
SlyMrFox
His advice on listening live rent free in my head.
DickVergaman
Well?
SlyMrFox
"Listening is a trick I'd picked up when I was a kid. Not many people have worked out the trick of it, blocking out all other sound in order to better hear one sound in particular—such as distant voices. It isn't as much about magic, I think, as it is focus and discipline. But the magic helps."
jayman0123
Gun mage
BlackfoxBane
He's up to a Smith and Wesson .50 cal revolver now! Thing is a beast!
Jerkfacedjerk
Ala-ka-BLAM!
NCPBullet
He's up to s&w 500mag now. But yes. Guns are good against more monsters than monsters know
Eridianne
Like Buffy with the RPG. Nothing beats Massive Damage rules
NCPBullet
An excellent example
RyanMcFlyin
Necromancers never expect a gut full of lead.
Narwhilian
Turns out one of the best spells all along was fun. Loved that the caliber of his gun increased throughout the series as the big bads got bigger
Beardedgeek72
"BOLSHEVIK MUPPET!!!"
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SupernaturalReactions
Kincaid with multiple shotguns, firing dragon's breath rounds....
RyanMcFlyin
A seriously scary dude.
NCPBullet
Just plain, vanilla, mortal......
DidgeryDrew
Double barrels in a golf bag! Genius!!!
SupernaturalReactions
Harry when his sass-o-meter is low:
Omnimorph2112
Also why Harry Potter wizards are lame. I wanna see some brutal 2 handed blunt damage! Can't do that with a friggin chopstick
rockuhard
But I can poke your eye out!
Imademyselfsquirtle
I played the game. Harrys school is shit. Another school you learn, do not even use wands. They just use their hands. Wtf. Why can I not learn that, this stupid ass running around like a fairy flicking my wrist with a wand is dumb. I want to flick my wrist without a wand all proper like a true fairy.
MadKraken
ComcastLover
They have brooms
VCJunky
how about a gun
breadedfishstrip
Wizards did it all the way in '77: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvEOEod1FUg
wadatahmydamie
Harry Potter and the Average American Tuesday
dmendez199
Parry this you filthy casual
NM156
What are the rules for HP magic? Pronounce the spell correctly?
solrev
Because they’re sorcerers. Benefit cumberbuttons was the wizard.
TheLesserOfTwoWeevils
No, they're Wizards (and Witches). Why? Because D&D definitions don't apply to things that aren't D&D.
StaggerRhythms
Not even witches or wizards. Witches meet a familiar who was sent by the devil to teach you magic
LaronX
Hogwarts is literally called Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry. It's okay to misremember, just stop being a dick and check before acting you can't be wrong
InTheBeginningWasTheNerd
Thank you! It annoys me when people latch onto a specific piece of fiction and treat every other fiction as if it's supposed to follow the "true rules". I've seen people complain that "real dragons don't work like that" (usually about some book or game that didn't have the same dragons as GoT, because obviously everything in GoT was 100% real; this was especially common since GoT was a lot of people's first - or only - fantasy knowledge).
JaceTiger
If you mean Dr Stephen Strange, he's the SORCERER Supreme
TheBestSpiderQueen
Yeah but he’s actually a wizard
grandfalloon
He doesn't wear a hat!
Tinkarsk
In historical folklore and literature, wizards are those who inherit their powers whilst sorcerers are those who gain their powers through occult arts and faustian bargains. E.g. the wizard Merlin is magical because he is the son of a devil, whereas sorcerers like Circe or Prospero have to use spells, enchantments, ingredients e.t.c. to produce their magical effects. It is really only DnD and DnD derivatives which set wizards = power by learning, sorcerers = power by blood
bril350
But that ignores the celtic origins of Merlin meaning he was in fact a druid not a wizard either.
AxelTenveils
Also you are literally making up conventions that did not necessarily exist. How was Circe a sorcerer in a language that doesn't have the words for Sorcerer and Wizard? There's like 3 words to translate mage in Greek, or even ancient Greek and none directly fit Wizard and Sorcerer. Μάγος, γητευτής, μαγγανευτής.
AxelTenveils
Yeah, nah on Circe. She's the daughter of Helios and Perse. She got plenty of in-born power.
JaceTiger
You realize those are generally interchangeable, right? Britannica, Meriam-Webster, and Dictionary(dot)com have them as synonyms
TheBestSpiderQueen
Dont take talk of wizardry so seriously dude