The stupid thing about lamination is that social security claims lamination breaks the security features of the card, but I'm pretty sure I have never once in my life had to actually show my social security card to anyone, usually they just ask you for the number.
Laminated mine back in the late 70's. Nobody ever cared or said a word. There's no way it would have survived decades in a wallet without laminating. Now it's just stored in a firebox along with other ancient documents.
I put mine in a trading card sleeve. Went to the dmv and handed it to them and they didnt think twice about the oversized plastic on it. And proceeded to put it into their scanner and it jammed it. Got a crumpled card now...
What do you guys need these for in the US? Only thing similar I can think of in Australia is my tax file number which is only used when setting up a bank account and other financial stuff.
Basically the same. You'll also need it, clearly, when filing taxes as well as needing to provide the number (but not, usually showing the card) to a new employer so that they can report your income. It was an optional method of secondary ID when I had to get a replacement birth certificate printed.
They're recommending VK? Oh, wow. I hadn't even used it in decades. When did ICQ get bought by Russia?
Just looked it up; 2010. Most of the major movers of the purchase, including Alisher Usmanov, appear to still be around and have been sanctioned since the 2022 invasion.
Who says it can't be laminated? Also, fwiw, my SS card has "For social security and tax purposes - Not for identification" printed on it under the signature line. Why doesn't this one? At the time SS was enacted, average U.S. citizens did not like the idea of a national ID as they tended to be hallmarks of authoritarian nations, so it was legislated that SS wouldn't be used for that purpose.
There's a larger document that you separate the card from with instructions. Mine from 1971 doesn't mention laminating, and says "Carry it [the card] in your purse or wallet." The modern document says "DO NOT CARRY THIS CARD WITH YOU." and "Do not laminate."
Why can I not laminate it? I've never needed the actual card and couldn't even tell you where mine is. Are the lamination cops gonna show up and give me a beat down?
some places require the physical card for verification, stuff like, getting a passport issued or w/e. if its laminated it could be a forgery using the lamination to hide the watermarks or w/e.
You can laminate it if you want but laminating it makes it invalid as a form of ID, same for birth certificates or any other gov documents really. If you try to use a laminated SS card, birth certificate, etc, as ID the office is supposed to turn you away. My
I have never had to present the actual card to an employer. And I am an oldz.
I may have had to dig it out to show to the DMV for my new super duper driver’s license that actually lets me get on a plane and whatnot, but even then, I think the birth certificate was enough.
You need one thing stating your birthday, one thing stating you are a citizen and one thing with your social and one thing with your address. Min. Of 2 documents.
Passport proves citizenship. Birth certificate can as well, provide you were born in the country.
The reason you’re not supposed to laminate it is so that if you lose it, it will be easily destroyed by the elements (assuming that where you lost it was outside and it wasn’t inside some sort of container).
When it was designed, people didn't care about keeping the number secret. It only became a problem when the banking industry started using the SSN for authentication instead of simple identification.
Fun fact: if you walk in to a large bank and give them your social security number they can pull up a list of every legit and illegit account they have under your social.
Got my National Insurance card (UK) is embossed plastic like a credit card. The real question is, where did I put it the last time I used it 30 odd years ago.
There's a larger document that you separate the card from with instructions. Mine from 1971 doesn't mention laminating, and says "Carry it [the card] in your purse or wallet." The modern document says "DO NOT CARRY THIS CARD WITH YOU." and "Do not laminate."
I've had mine reprinted once and I've been told I don't get anymore in my own lifetime by the social security office every time I try to get a new one reprinted after a house fire. It's really hard to get an ID without one turns out
The number is your taxpayer id. The card is a reference. You shouldn't carry the card on you because it legally can't be used as an ID because it lacks a photo or any other PII besides the number itself. Your DL is an ID because of the photo, address, et cetera.
No it's not. My driver's license is my taxpayer ID. You can tell the social security card isn't ID because it literally says. NOT ID. Again, you can just ask the office to print you a new one, I got like, 6 of them. They just give them to you, the card is pretty much useless unless you can't remember your number.
Or want to use it as a List C document (Documents that Establish Employment Authorization) for your I-9 form. All employers must complete and retain Form I-9, Employment Eligibility Verification, for every person they hire for employment after Nov. 6, 1986, in the U.S. as long as the person works for pay or other type of payment.
Mine does, it's on the paper you shouldn't have removed the card from. It also says to sign it and put it in a safe place and to not carry it with you.
Ive gotten a job, and it was at a pharmaceutical company as an intern to sort their files, literally all i had to do was fill out a firm will all my info and my SSN and piss in a cup and i got the job, never was asked for some glorified piece of paper that means nothing
I went my entire life without having to show it. After having been retired for 10 years I needed to use it to get a RealID drivers license. The state wouldn't accept it because it didn't have my full Name on it. Had to get a new one with the name changed.
SuckMyFatOne
Do they seriously still make them out of paper?
Metalsmith21
Those magic card sleeves work pretty good to keep it safe.
Crazywelderguy
Here's a secret. Laminate it anyway, they can't do shit
shuttlecockinakumquat
Accidentally left mine in a pocket and it went through the wash :|
moonglum
I laminated mine.
samanthadlcruz
and we'll make it expensive and incredibly inconvenient to replace it
Onlyhereforthelaughs
It's so if you lose it outside it'll break down. You don't want someone finding it.
andy1max11
I laminated mine some 50 years ago. I have used it several times and no one said a word.
DinoNuggetButtPlug
Mines been through the wash twice. It’s pretty ratty but didn’t ball up
cbale2000
The stupid thing about lamination is that social security claims lamination breaks the security features of the card, but I'm pretty sure I have never once in my life had to actually show my social security card to anyone, usually they just ask you for the number.
arfysdad
Laminated mine back in the late 70's. Nobody ever cared or said a word. There's no way it would have survived decades in a wallet without laminating. Now it's just stored in a firebox along with other ancient documents.
Escapist83
ariania
cyclone0619
I used a Yu-Gi-Oh card protector for mine.
lucivjov
Lmao @op gunna be like
jackpkmn
I didn't buy a sleeve for it, i just put it in a pokemon card sleeve with a fire energy to add stiffening.
AHornyRhino
god damn genius
woogigooie
I put mine in a trading card sleeve. Went to the dmv and handed it to them and they didnt think twice about the oversized plastic on it. And proceeded to put it into their scanner and it jammed it. Got a crumpled card now...
woogigooie
I didnt think they needed to scan it or id have taken it out
DreamPhreak
Great idea, going to do this now
DreamPhreak
update: oops i think i lost it lol
Escapist83
LouBashery
Yes, because that paper and ink they used 30 years ago cannot possibly be replicated by forgers.
NickRivieraMD
I dunno if the FBI is breaking down the doors of social security card laminators.
purgruv
Alan Davies - ‘Laminate, laminate, just in case you spill. Laminate, laminate, on your grandad’s will’
pkfyre
Lost one a while back, easiest thing to replace, had a new one in 10 days. Not a big deal.
hatsuseno
Ah yes the "it's not an ID, honestly" card.
breakingxwheel
Just a heads up, it’s annoying but not super difficult to order a new one.
Homosexualsaregay
What do you guys need these for in the US? Only thing similar I can think of in Australia is my tax file number which is only used when setting up a bank account and other financial stuff.
quzar
Basically the same. You'll also need it, clearly, when filing taxes as well as needing to provide the number (but not, usually showing the card) to a new employer so that they can report your income. It was an optional method of secondary ID when I had to get a replacement birth certificate printed.
insecure400lbman
I gave mine to a guy I met on AOL chat. He has a really good memory and if I ever forget it, I can just ICQ him.
Papabaer
Oh no - Hurry up. ICQ will be shut down in June. https://icq.com/
mikeatike
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insecure400lbman
That is only one ICQ window, you can open more than one at a time.
schlami
Meltemi
They're recommending VK? Oh, wow. I hadn't even used it in decades. When did ICQ get bought by Russia?
Just looked it up; 2010. Most of the major movers of the purchase, including Alisher Usmanov, appear to still be around and have been sanctioned since the 2022 invasion.
quzar
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Like2Fox
This is not a form of id, do not carry this with you
UserNameCorrupted
It can be used as a second form of ID. You can use it in the military with a drivers license to get a CAC issued or replaced.
leodavinci1
Who says it can't be laminated? Also, fwiw, my SS card has "For social security and tax purposes - Not for identification" printed on it under the signature line. Why doesn't this one? At the time SS was enacted, average U.S. citizens did not like the idea of a national ID as they tended to be hallmarks of authoritarian nations, so it was legislated that SS wouldn't be used for that purpose.
trigonman3
There's a larger document that you separate the card from with instructions. Mine from 1971 doesn't mention laminating, and says "Carry it [the card] in your purse or wallet." The modern document says "DO NOT CARRY THIS CARD WITH YOU." and "Do not laminate."
SomeDetroitGuy
The Social Security Administration says not to laminate it: https://faq.ssa.gov/en-us/Topic/article/KA-02202
funkystay
You're not suppose to carry your card with you at all times.
OMGamIImguringCorrectly
Why can I not laminate it? I've never needed the actual card and couldn't even tell you where mine is. Are the lamination cops gonna show up and give me a beat down?
totaleclipseofdescartes
That all depends. Do the lamination cops have qualified immunity?
PicassoCT
No laminations allowed when it comes to us social security id.
muwah
I laminated mine. I’m still a free woman.
Nitrobakter
Coz the cops can't identify you anymore?
Seggs
some places require the physical card for verification, stuff like, getting a passport issued or w/e. if its laminated it could be a forgery using the lamination to hide the watermarks or w/e.
mikeatike
"I'm going to get my testicle laminated!" -George Carlin
Trunkmonkay
You can laminate it if you want but laminating it makes it invalid as a form of ID, same for birth certificates or any other gov documents really. If you try to use a laminated SS card, birth certificate, etc, as ID the office is supposed to turn you away. My
ocdboy777
Mine had been laminated for 25+ years. I've not had anyone give me a big deal about it yet.
BeerIsProofThatGodLovesUsAndWantsUsToBeHappy
SomeDetroitGuy
You can't laminate it because it is illegal to. You need it every time you get a new job unless you have a passport or your birth certificate.
hogeyegrex
I have never had to present the actual card to an employer. And I am an oldz.
I may have had to dig it out to show to the DMV for my new super duper driver’s license that actually lets me get on a plane and whatnot, but even then, I think the birth certificate was enough.
itsallaboutthecones
The trick is working jobs without a paper trail.
RawSugarPackage
You need one thing stating your birthday, one thing stating you are a citizen and one thing with your social and one thing with your address. Min. Of 2 documents.
Passport proves citizenship. Birth certificate can as well, provide you were born in the country.
morningxafter
The reason you’re not supposed to laminate it is so that if you lose it, it will be easily destroyed by the elements (assuming that where you lost it was outside and it wasn’t inside some sort of container).
MrSnuffleupagus172
The reason is because it has security features to prevent duplication, and laminating it could interfere with checking those features https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/649145/can-you-laminate-your-social-security-card
DreamPhreak
Huh, I always thought it was just so when its scanned, it might reflect the light, causing imperfect scans
morningxafter
Interesting, I’ve never heard that one, just that it was designed to easily be destroyed by water in case it was lost outside.
bottledham
When it was designed, people didn't care about keeping the number secret. It only became a problem when the banking industry started using the SSN for authentication instead of simple identification.
distraingotnobrakes
Fun fact: if you walk in to a large bank and give them your social security number they can pull up a list of every legit and illegit account they have under your social.
JustTryingToLiveLife
Its 2024, i dont think anyone asks for this anymore, unless you cant remember the number, then sure you need it then
CatShadowleaf
I've had a couple security and medical related jobs that needed it.
Equinox13
I needed it to get my last driver's license a couple years ago.
dashers
Got my National Insurance card (UK) is embossed plastic like a credit card. The real question is, where did I put it the last time I used it 30 odd years ago.
ChloeRed
They were phased out in 2011, all you get now is a letter telling you your NI number.
kickmyballsrealhard
I laminated mine. No one told me not to
SomeDetroitGuy
The Social Security Administration explicitly told you not tol
trigonman3
There's a larger document that you separate the card from with instructions. Mine from 1971 doesn't mention laminating, and says "Carry it [the card] in your purse or wallet." The modern document says "DO NOT CARRY THIS CARD WITH YOU." and "Do not laminate."
Whatevyou
I haven't but I've heard that you can't. Why the hell can't we laminate them in the first place?
SomeDetroitGuy
https://faq.ssa.gov/en-us/Topic/article/KA-02202
MrSnuffleupagus172
It not a law; just not recommended due to security features…
mooseablethenok
fancy this, you can just, put it in a file cabinet. Also, you can get a reprint of it, it's literally not ID.
thadickenz
Also, there is a limit to how mamy times you can have it reprinted. I think you get some bullshit number like 3 per lifetime?
TalleyZorah
It's 3 per calendar year, 10 per lifetime.
thadickenz
Ah. That's a little better. There also seems to be some allowances that don't count towards your limits. Many thanks for the correction.
DracoSicarius
I think if your last name changes it doesn't count to the limit.
drezrale
I've had mine reprinted once and I've been told I don't get anymore in my own lifetime by the social security office every time I try to get a new one reprinted after a house fire. It's really hard to get an ID without one turns out
animatronicChristmasChickens
It is literally your tax payer id
mooseablethenok
https://www.ssa.gov/number-card/replace-card easy peasy lemon squeezy.
justadudeemp
The number is your taxpayer id. The card is a reference. You shouldn't carry the card on you because it legally can't be used as an ID because it lacks a photo or any other PII besides the number itself. Your DL is an ID because of the photo, address, et cetera.
mooseablethenok
No it's not. My driver's license is my taxpayer ID. You can tell the social security card isn't ID because it literally says. NOT ID. Again, you can just ask the office to print you a new one, I got like, 6 of them. They just give them to you, the card is pretty much useless unless you can't remember your number.
BeckyLookAtHerButt
Or want to use it as a List C document (Documents that Establish Employment Authorization) for your I-9 form. All employers must complete and retain Form I-9, Employment Eligibility Verification, for every person they hire for employment after Nov. 6, 1986, in the U.S. as long as the person works for pay or other type of payment.
mooseablethenok
You just need the number.
BeckyLookAtHerButt
Or... just the tip? https://www.uscis.gov/i-9-central/completing-form-i-9
InboxMeYourHDGIFs
I don't know about yours, but mine doesn't say "Not ID" or any form of that anywhere.
MenloPart
Mine doesn't say anything of the sort, either.
mooseablethenok
Mine does, it's on the paper you shouldn't have removed the card from. It also says to sign it and put it in a safe place and to not carry it with you.
cosinewave
I have never been asked to show my SS card.
VDarksteel
Lucky
StillNotYouTube
I've been required to present it for every job I've had. There are probably other documents I could use, but that one was the easiest.
SomeDetroitGuy
Have you never gotten a job?
JustTryingToLiveLife
Ive gotten a job, and it was at a pharmaceutical company as an intern to sort their files, literally all i had to do was fill out a firm will all my info and my SSN and piss in a cup and i got the job, never was asked for some glorified piece of paper that means nothing
IDontCareAtAllButIShould
I went my entire life without having to show it. After having been retired for 10 years I needed to use it to get a RealID drivers license. The state wouldn't accept it because it didn't have my full Name on it. Had to get a new one with the name changed.
PineappleLoopsBroether
I would have totally snapped
JustTryingToLiveLife
Weird, i got real ID on my license and was never asked to show this piece of paper
Like2Fox
You should have done that when you had your name change
IDontCareAtAllButIShould
I never changed my name. My card didn't have my middle name on it. It came that way. The guy at the SS office said that happens sometimes.