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This author gave out some eARCs (ebook advanced readers copies) of a book and then about a month later posted this on her instagram stories.
Btw it does not cost any money to send an eARC. I send them out all the time. DM me and I’ll send you one now. Theft is assuming they were going to buy it if they didn’t get a free one, which, no.
For the record, this is not at all how you handle this situation and it is overall a Dick Move
People protested after seeing this that they never even received their eARCs or that it had only been a month and they hadn’t gotten around to reading it yet, they were not given a hard deadline of any kind. A lot of them left passive aggressive bad reviews in revenge
You reap what you sow lady
Lesson to take away: If you’re ever an author, don’t do this.
I personally love random drama from obscure subcommunities so hopefully you do too! There’s tons of it. Here’s more:
Emily Duncan wrote a fantasy novel full of Jewish stereotypes where the Jewish coded people used blood magic and were evil. She made a public apology but in it she specifically said she did it on purpose and tried to be sensitive about the subject material. So that didn’t go over well. The community was so outraged that a book box (owlcrate) that did her books had to issue refunds
Even better one: author JM Buckler started whining about haters and bullies when people told her that her books (autocorrected to boobs at first lol) didn’t have good representation. She protested that she only had 20k followers so it’s not her responsibility to speak out on anything. She then blamed woke culture for her recent bad reviews and started blasting the reviewers on her page. And then she went off the deep end and started posting a whole bunch of conservative shit and pro trump shit on her author account. She did a big dramatic video about why she was leaving social media forever and was gone for like a month then came back and started a group called “free readers and writers” from the “tyranny of wokeness” ie having people of color represented properly in your book and/or not queer coding your villains. Many parody accounts followed. She’s now a laughingstock.
Another one: an artist who paints bookish scenes (I forget her name, she blocked me immediately) (edit: sweetsequels) made a post in like 2017 saying “why are all of you so worried about black people being killed by the police when thousands and thousands more children of every color are murdered by abortion every year” and then blocked everyone who disagreed and continued to spew bullshit on her business page. Which. Not a smart business move.
Another one: Alex aster, author of lightlark, went viral on TikTok about her book and got a publishing deal from it, rave reviews, recommendations from famous authors, even a movie deal before it was even published. But when regular people actually got the books, one star reviews came flooding in. Turns out the chick is an heiress who was already published and her sister is the ceo of a marketing firm. So not quite the Cinderella story people envisioned. She’s now like one of the most hated authors out there.
There’s lots more, but it’s really only entertaining when the author is at fault and not when they’re forced to reveal deeply personal info/trauma because of it (Lindsay Ellis and Becky Albertalli for example). Tbh I’d find it delightful if I weren’t scared it would happen to me.
Puppy and baby tax
Edit: wow! I never expected this to blow up so much! Thanks everyone for your interest in my work! https://www.amazon.com/dp/1987670639 is the link to my first series and I have another about Aztec vampires and will happily give eARCs to all of you. No strings attached!
Twinklepot
https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/61372914-the-curvy-girl-and-the-quarterback - an example
AllHailTheMoose
How to get review bombed 101
NowDoThatVoodooThatYouDo
Never name a main character after yourself, they almost always end up as Mary-Sues…and it can reveal you to be self-involved prick as above.
xizar
I'm reporting ever imgurian who doesn't upvote this in the next 36 hours. If you wanted legal trouble, what's wrong with you?
LadyCrickett
"like nothing every happened" oof. Not even editing her own threats
skylardarkfox
So supposing I post an ARC of one of my short stories here... do I get to sue you all?
kirbyvictorious
Good fucking luck lol we’re all poor
ballsoutflyer
Reminds me of that female streamer that yelled at her patrons and audience to give her five dollars each.
yifin
What happened to Ellis sucked. I prolly should actually read her stuff, it's somewhere in my read pile.
kirbyvictorious
I should buy her book just to support her tbh
PrincessNakedMoleRat
They're both pretty great, honestly.
youreathing
Blue cheese has mold in it.
StarryLyn
Indy author here - How dumb can you fucking get? ARCs are a percentage game. The real worth is word of mouth in online book groups.
kirbyvictorious
Oooo do you know any good groups
StarryLyn
The depends on what you like to read.
Finduses
Also I'm pretty sure giving shit if they review is against the terms of service an Amazon
tzahtman
Author Review Copy?
kirbyvictorious
Advanced review copy. Did I say author?
tzahtman
It was a simple question as to what ARC meant. What a bizarrely hostile response to an inquiry.
kirbyvictorious
Oh sorry I didn’t mean for it to sound that way. I just genuinely thought I may have gotten it wrong
Hiddenauthor
Wow...let this be a lesson to any new author. Please dont treat your readers like this. I have six published books in scifi...im shocked...
robingal1
These stories make me miss Lindsey Ellis YouTube
kirbyvictorious
Poor Lindsay that was brutal
mobiusstriptease
I’ve seen her on YouTube but don’t know the book story… whad she do?
kirbyvictorious
She said raya and the last dragon was an ATLA ripoff (true) and a bunch of white people called her racist and dug up everything she’s ever
kirbyvictorious
Done “wrong” and she had to reveal a whole lot of past trauma and quit YouTube
PrincessNakedMoleRat
Yeah that video was rough. I felt dirty for having watched it. Fuck people, right? I did buy and enjoy both of her books, so maybe good.
JPtheArrogant
I feel my boobs are also severely under-represented in media. As a guy, my feelings are hurt. :)
Margrave9000
How does it feel to make fun of underrepresented, oppressed, erased minorities? This is about people, show some respect.
JPtheArrogant
No, this is about a writer getting wrecked online by being a jerk. Lighten up, and learn to laugh. Dingleberry.
putcleverusernamehere
BRB, gonna 1 star Yelp your boobs
DudePersonManHuman
Shit like this is what I go to r/hobbydrama for. Definitely recommend it if you want crazy stories like this from obscure communities.
kirbyvictorious
Omg I must check it out
jherazob
You have months of reading ahead of you, that's one deep rabbit hole
kirbyvictorious
Yesssssss
bizzybanana
cracking up at the “legal action”. Please, try to sue me and see what any lawyer or court says.
kirbyvictorious
I know right????
Einbrecher
"I charge $250+ an hour, and you'll get maybe $15 (or whatever the book retails for) back from the reviewer."
Einbrecher
Attorneys fees are only awarded in exceptional cases, so this comes up fairly often, actually.
mcrump929000
Fun fact: Charles Dickens took criticism on his books like when he wrote a Jewish coded side character but it was mostly stereotypical/
mcrump929000
And his real life Jewish friend pointed it out so he changed it. That why his books have various editions
mcrump929000
https://youtu.be/ofiD-cD4LH8
Imapseudonym
Question: Is the Aztec vampire one about vampires in Aztec times? Or are they Aztecan vampires in a more modern era.
theoddprincess
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kirbyvictorious
Aztec times! It’s not actually called the Aztec empire because I made some changes but it’s pretty close
ICollectReactionGifs
those in glass houses..
diesel01
When I accept an ARC of a book I understand the author or publisher expects a review. If I don’t do that I feel bad. But to suggest there is
diesel01
legal recourse if I don’t is ludicrous, and as others pointed out self-defeating.
rshini
and against TOS of many review sites
IPoisonedDorcasMutton
Man, what happened to Lindsay Ellis was such bullshit. It's a damn shame she got bullied off the internet, her videos were excellent.
kirbyvictorious
It really is. Xiran jay zhao has a whole video about how right she was too.
CleverGroom
Anything but unconditional ARCs violates TOS (https://kdp.amazon.com/en_US/help/topic/G202101910). Report em
PalaverQuader
this makes way more sense XD
Poifire
came here to say this. She's totally violating Amazon's TOS.
CaptainHedgeHog
How can we report this author? She needs to permanently banned from Amazon at minimum.
Margrave9000
They should be charged with something and they should never be allowed near art&entertainment.
Vesane
#4 This one doesn't even seem vengeful, but an honest attempt at a fair review, albeit rushed. Good on her
RevRagnarok
Obscure niche drama is what you want? Say no more! https://old.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/
DudePersonManHuman
Hey, we both thought of the same thing! You were just a minute faster, it seems.
NotmyUsername2000
It's also stupid to think that they wouldnt be sharing it or talking about it with family and friends. Which isn't a review on Amazon either
NotmyUsername2000
The thought of legal action for not leaving a review is kind of horrifying also.
Pilchard123
Isn't that also extortion? I can't remember if that needs to be explicitly for money, but "do X or I will make false reports of theft" /1
Pilchard123
smells extortion-y. There was no prior agreement to review by any deadline, and in any case she'd have had no right to report theft for it /
Pilchard123
So it's it even like it's enforcing a contract or settling (where "do X or I do Y" is allowed) /3
rowm
I’n also pretty sure it would just get thrown out, or be an easy win
kirbyvictorious
It’s such a bitch move even if it WERE possible
Makemycommuteinteresting
It cracks me up that the author didn't realise she was gonna get a load of bad reviews by threatening people ?
HoneyBadgersAreBadAsses
She is entitled…
DooksandPooks
Lmfao!!!
FarkasMacTavish
Classic narcissistic personality trait.
wingweaver415
Considering the reviews of her characters she doesnt think too far for alot of things
arandomfish
Not to mention it may well have been the reviewer elected not to review b/c "if you don't have anything nice to say..."
mippijRunner
This is me. I don’t leave reviews unless I have a good one to give. Rarely do I leave a bad one but sometimes it’s necessary.
Kittynomnoms
I mean in fairness... Now it's here with 31,000 views. That's a lot more people who know it even exists now.
vinny8boberano
Fuck around...?
Shadowkrieger
She isn't smart
clonedeeznuts
The beatings will continue until morale improves
OnionCutter
AeonQuasars
Maybe she just want publicity. Or maybe just stupid. Hard to tell.
Lyzard
Por que no los dos?
SerialChickenLover
“Any publicity is good publicity” is a gamble that assumes publicity is widespread. If it only touches people in your niche, you’re not /
SerialChickenLover
/going to get a new audience, but only piss off the only people who would have engaged with your work.seems that happened here.
WooNeat
Yeah that saying of any publicity is good publicity or whatever it is
lncorrectGrammerNazi
I'm curious enough to have mildly considered reading the first chapter or so, but I'd have just pirated it after seeing the author's antics
kirbyvictorious
It’s honestly kind of true. But those bad reviews are hard to bounce back from
kirbyvictorious
A genuine idiot
ShamshielDF
As the wife of an indie author, that's not allowed by Amazon. They can remove people from their arc list, but that's all. Requiring a 1/?
ShamshielDF
Review is a form of compensation, which is prohibited and could get the author banned from Amazon. Will get more deets shortly 2/?
ShamshielDF
Per Amazon community guidelines: Authors and publishers can continue to give readers free or discounted copies of their books 3/?
ShamshielDF
if they don't require a review in exchange or try to influence the review.
Elbowdeepinabeepbeepsheep
Also sounds like the Emily in the book is a self-insert.
Flowerlady0
Write what you know
kirbyvictorious
Which is a shame because it’s apparently lowkey fatphobic. I’d at least make my self insert three dimensional.
Elbowdeepinabeepbeepsheep
As a 290lb man this makes me drier than a freeze-dried slice of cake.
kirbyvictorious
I do not know how to interpret that
Skuggen
If the book comes with obligations, it isn't free.
LadyMoto
Lostcause103
You are correct. Under contract law this would be an agreement. There was an offer (read book but post review), consideration (free book
PalaverQuader
what? if there is nothing in the "contract" about a fee to pay for not made reviews then she is just talking out of her ass...
Lostcause103
Not true, if man A at a market offers to give an apple to man B if B will get him some water and B accepts then there is a contract even if
Lostcause103
There is no stipulation that B owes A if he doesn't get the water. The law would then say B did not perform and owes A a reasonable
Lostcause103
Compensation for the apple. Just as in this case the author offered to give a good (the book) in return for a service(writing a review).
Lostcause103
From the offer and a review from the consumer), and acceptance (we don't see it but it can be presumed since they got a copy.) That is a
Lostcause103
Contract. Nonetheless, the author is an ass. And of the contract did not have a time limit the court would automatically add the term and it
Lostcause103
Likely would be along the lines of "leave the review within a reasonable time." "Reasonable time" would be hard to pin down and u'd want to
Lostcause103
Look at local caseload to get a rough idea.
PalaverQuader
looky here, this makes some sense at least: https://kdp.amazon.com/en_US/help/topic/G202101910
Lostcause103
The link gives me a 404 error.
BeetBoxer
@op what is your pen name and what do you write?
kirbyvictorious
CRR Hillin and I write fantasy! There’s a whole post about one of my books and I have another about Aztec vampires and another about autism!
BeetBoxer
Oh fantasy is my jam. Checking out your bibliography now!
kirbyvictorious
Yay!!! I’m serious about sending eARCs, DM me if you’d like one!
kirbyvictorious
No strings attached lol
colopctech
before I accept your offer to ask for something, may I know what you create?
WhichIsIt
Open your mouth and close your eyes and you will get a big surprise
AgentKGB
Full-package futanari elf romance novels.
bobbycottle
Can I pay for it?
sleepinggreenidea
My guess is drama on obscure sub-communities
kirbyvictorious
I don’t try to but I have before lol (not to this level)
JustLikeSoManyCups
Exactly what we want then
sleepinggreenidea
Lemme see if I can help then @BotDrawA drama from obscure sub-communities in the style of scalding-hot spilled tea
BotDrawA
@sleepinggreenidea Here's your (experimental extra) drawing of a "Charcoal sketch of drama from obscure s
BotDrawA
@sleepinggreenidea Here's your drawing of a "drama from obscure sub-communities in the style of scalding-
chaosundivided
it's been two hours with no answer, OP seems offline for the moment. I too wanted to know and looked into it - here's the amazon summary for
kirbyvictorious
Thanks so much! I’ve been really fortunate! Yes that one is my baby and I have another about Aztec vampires!
chaosundivided
hm, one of my favorite books deals with Mayan vampires - maybe I should check that out. Bloodthirst, right? I can't find it for sale though.
kirbyvictorious
My agent is still trying to sell it! But I am allowed to give out advanced copies! What is the title of the Mayan book???
chaosundivided
if you don't mind that it might take a while to write a review, I'd love to read it. and it's Changes by Jim Butcher, book 12 of the Dresden
chaosundivided
(I know Maya and Aztec is not the same, but closely related enough to count for me)
chaosundivided
the first book in OP's two part series that's available there:
chaosundivided
it also seems very well received
colopctech
Thank you
kirbyvictorious
Fantasy! I have like a game of thrones/assassins creed one and one about Aztec vampires
AimForTheLittleToe
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BigDaddysMeatWagon
Oh shit that actually sounds pretty cool.
kirbyvictorious
It is. Dm me your email and I’ll send!
likescheeseandcrackers
I would love a copy of your GoT/Assassin's Creed book. I'll even leave a review because the synopsis reads epic.
kirbyvictorious
Dm me your email and I’ll send!!!
ReNiX333
That sounds awesome
kirbyvictorious
Thank you! Dm me your email and I’ll send it!
HollywoodHells
I so wanna DM you so I can read these but it's apparently fucking broken. My luck continues.
cornzilla
They posted a link to one in the edit just in case you didn't see.
LithicSpiral
Apparently the link is also broken 😿