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First, here's a basic reading order guide I made for the series.
The series being Terry Pratchett's incredible Discworld, a 41-book series (and a few short stories and novellas) set in a remarkable fantasy universe. This guide Includes corrections for mistakes on the official guide, as well as further detail not available on other (very nicely done) unofficial guides.
Good for those who want to theme their reads by subseries, and those who just want to read chronologically.
PM me if you want a lossless high-res version. (I accidentally deleted the last one, my bad.)
What sets Discworld apart?
Besides the fact that this is the author?
The series takes place on a flat world perched on the back of four elephants, with stand on the back of the world turtle, Great A'tuin. As a whole series, it tells the story of a magical universe coming to terms with the dawning of the age of industry and technology.
More importantly, this is a series that will make you laugh out loud with joy and marvel at the author's lightning wit and wordplay...and then send an emotional or philosophical uppercut to the jaw when you're not expecting it.
Some of the best characterization in all of fantasy lives in these books. They're nothing like your Tolkiens or Martins...but the world is complex and alive.
How do I read these books? And what about these 'young adult' novels in the series?
You can read from the beginning (follow the chronological ring in this guide), although you should be aware that the tone of the series changes markedly as it progresses. Pratchett himself suggests not reading from the first book but starting elsewhere.
There are also a number of wonderful standalones, such as the above book. New readers to Pratchett often question whether the young adult novels in the series, the Tiffany Aching books and the above Amazing Maurice, are worth reading.
Discworld readers will generally tell you that they're some of the best in the series, and in fact they often go to darker, more disturbing places than you might expect. (Shameless insert of my crappy amateur art for this book, sorry).
So how about some quotes?
"'All right,' said Susan. 'I'm not stupid. You're saying humans need... fantasies to make life bearable.'
REALLY? AS IF IT WAS SOME KIND OF PINK PILL? NO. HUMANS NEED FANTASY TO BE HUMAN. TO BE THE PLACE WHERE THE FALLING ANGEL MEETS THE RISING APE.
'Tooth fairies? Hogfathers? Little—'
YES. AS PRACTICE. YOU HAVE TO START OUT LEARNING TO BELIEVE THE LITTLE LIES.
'So we can believe the big ones?'
YES. JUSTICE. MERCY. DUTY. THAT SORT OF THING.
'They're not the same at all!'
YOU THINK SO? THEN TAKE THE UNIVERSE AND GRIND IT DOWN TO THE FINEST POWDER AND SIEVE IT THROUGH THE FINEST SIEVE AND THEN SHOW ME ONE ATOM OF JUSTICE, ONE MOLECULE OF MERCY. AND YET—Death waved a hand. AND YET YOU ACT AS IF THERE IS SOME IDEAL ORDER IN THE WORLD, AS IF THERE IS SOME...SOME RIGHTNESS IN THE UNIVERSE BY WHICH IT MAY BE JUDGED.
'Yes, but people have got to believe that, or what's the point—'
MY POINT EXACTLY.'"
(Terry Pratchett, Hogfather; art credit: the fantastic Stephen Player. Check him out at: http://www.playergallery.com/)
"'I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are the good people and the bad people,' said the man.
'You’re wrong, of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides.'
He waved his thin hand toward the city and walked over to the window.
'A great rolling sea of evil,' he said, almost proprietorially. 'Shallower in some places, of course, but deeper, oh, so much deeper in others. But people like you put together little rafts of rules and vaguely good intentions and say, this is the opposite, this will triumph in the end. Amazing!' He slapped Vimes good-naturedly on the back.
'Down there,' he said, 'are people who will follow any dragon, worship any god, ignore any iniquity. All out of a kind of humdrum, everyday badness. Not the really high, creative loathesomeness of the great sinners, but a sort of mass-produced darkness of the soul. Sin, you might say, without a trace of originality. They accept evil not because they say yes, but because they don’t say no. I’m sorry if this offends you,' he added, patting the captain’s shoulder, 'but you fellows really need us.'
'Yes, sir?' said Vimes quietly.
'Oh, yes. We’re the only ones who know how to make things work. You see, the only thing the good people are good at is overthrowing the bad people. And you’re good at that, I’ll grant you. But the trouble is that it’s the only thing you’re good at. One day it’s the ringing of the bells and the casting down of the evil tyrant, and the next it’s everyone sitting around complaining that ever since the tyrant was overthrown no one’s been taking out the trash. Because the bad people know how to plan. It’s part of the specification, you might say. Every evil tyrant has a plan to rule the world. The good people don’t seem to have the knack.'"
(Terry Pratchett, Guards! Guards!; art credit: Stephen Player. http://www.playergallery.com/)
And now for a change of pace...
More at http://adidraws.tumblr.com/post/105778023917/how-i-made-its-a-sword-theyre-not-meant-to-be.
"It had started with The Goode Childe’s Booke of Faerie Tales...
Actually, it had probably started with a lot of things, but the stories most of all.
Her mother had read them to her when she was little, and then she’d read them to herself. And all the stories had, somewhere, the witch. The wicked old witch.
And Tiffany had thought, Where’s the evidence?
The stories never said why she was wicked. It was enough to be an old woman, enough to be all alone, enough to look strange because you had no teeth. It was enough to be called a witch.
If it came to that, the book never gave you the evidence of anything. It talked about 'a handsome prince'…was he really, or was it just because he was a prince that people called him handsome? As for 'a girl who was as beautiful as the day was long'…well, which day? In midwinter it hardly ever got light! The stories didn’t want you to think, they just wanted you to believe what you were told.'"
(Terry Pratchett, The Wee Free Men; art credit: Stephen Player. http://www.playergallery.com/)
"IT'S THE EXPRESSION ON THEIR LITTLE FACES I LIKE, said the Hogfather.
'You mean the sort of fear and awe and not knowing whether to laugh or cry or wet their pants?'
YES. NOW THAT IS WHAT I CALL BELIEF."
(Terry Pratchett, Hogfather; art credit: Stephen Player. http://www.playergallery.com/)
"FOR IF WE DO NOT CARE, WE DO NOT EXIST...
IF WE DO NOT EXIST, THEN THERE IS NOTHING BUT BLIND OBLIVION. AND EVEN OBLIVION MUST END SOMEDAY. LORD, WILL YOU GRANT ME JUST A LITTLE TIME? FOR THE PROPER BALANCE OF THINGS. TO RETURN WHAT WAS GIVEN. FOR THE SAKE OF PRISONERS AND THE FLIGHT OF BIRDS.
Death took a step backwards.
It was impossible to read expression in Azrael's features.
Death glanced sideways at the servants.
LORD, WHAT CAN THE HARVEST HOPE FOR, IF NOT FOR THE CARE OF THE REAPER MAN?”
(Terry Pratchett, Reaper Man; art credit: Stephen Player. http://www.playergallery.com/)
"'There is a very interesting debate raging at the moment about the nature of sin, for example,' said Oats.
'And what do they think? Against it, are they?' said Granny Weatherwax.
'It’s not as simple as that. It’s not a black and white issue. There are so many shades of gray.'
'Nope.'
'Pardon?'
'There’s no grays, only white that’s got grubby. I’m surprised you don’t know that. And sin, young man, is when you treat people as things. Including yourself. That’s what sin is.'
'It’s a lot more complicated than that—'
'No. It ain’t. When people say things are a lot more complicated than that, they means they’re getting worried that they won’t like the truth. People as things, that’s where it starts.'
'Oh, I’m sure there are worse crimes—'
'But they starts with thinking about people as things…'
(Terry Pratchett, Carpe Jugulum; art credit: Stephen Player. http://www.playergallery.com/)
"The city beyond was dark again, with only the occasional chink of light from a shuttered window...
By comparison, the streets of the Republic were ablaze.
In a few hours, the shops out there were expecting deliveries, and they weren’t going to arrive. A city like Ankh-Morpork was only two meals away from chaos at the best of times.
Every day maybe a hundred cows died for Ankh-Morpork. So did a flock of sheep and a herd of pigs, and the gods alone knew how many ducks, chickens, and geese. Flour? He’d heard it was eighty tons, and about the same amount of potatoes, and maybe twenty tons of herring. He didn’t particularly want to know this kind of thing, but once you started having to sort out the everlasting traffic problem, these were the kind of facts that got handed to you.
Every day, forty thousand eggs were laid for the city. Every day, hundreds, thousands of carts and boats and barges converged on the city with fish and honey and oysters and olives and eels and lobsters. And then think of the horses dragging this stuff, and the windmills … and the wool coming in, too, every day, the cloth, the tobacco, the spices, the ore, the timber, the cheese, the coal, the fat, the tallow, the hay EVERY DAMN DAY …
Against the dark screen of night, Vimes had a vision of Ankh-Morpork. It wasn’t a city, it was a process, a weight on the world that distorted the land for hundreds of miles around. People who’d never see it in their whole life nevertheless spent that life working for it. Thousands and thousands of green acres were part of it, forests were part of it. It drew in and consumed and gave back the dung from its pens, and the soot from its chimneys, and steel, and saucepans, and all the tools by which food was made. And also clothes, and fashions, and ideas, and interesting vices, songs, and knowledge, and something which, if looked at in the right light, was called civilization. That was what civilization meant. It meant the city.
A lot of the stuff came in through the Onion Gate and the Shambling Gate, both now Republican and solidly locked. There’d be a military picket on them, surely. Right now, there were carts on the way that’d find those gates closed to them. Yet, no matter what the politics, eggs hatch, and milk sours, and herds of driven animals need penning and watering, and where was all that going to happen? Would the military sort it out? Well, would they? While the carts rumbled up, and then were hemmed in by the carts behind, and the pigs escaped, and the cattle herds wandered off?
Was anyone important thinking about this?"
(Terry Pratchett, Night Watch)
"'I have told this to few people, gentlemen, and I suspect I never will again,...
...but one day when I was a young boy on holiday in Uberwald I was walking along the bank of a stream when I saw a mother otter with her cubs. A very endearing sight, I'm sure you will agree, and even as I watched, the mother otter dived into the water and came up with a plump salmon, which she subdued and dragged onto a half-submerged log. As she ate it, while of course it was still alive, the body split and I remember to its day the sweet pinkness of its roes as they spilled out, much to the delight of the baby otters who scrambled over themselves to feed on the delicacy. One of nature's wonders, gentlemen: mother and children dining upon mother and children. And that's when I first learned about evil. It is built in to the very nature of the universe. Every world spins in pain. If there is any kind of supreme being, I told myself, it is up to all of us to become his moral superior.'"
(Terry Pratchett, Unseen Academicals; art credit: Stephen Player. http://www.playergallery.com/)
Give these books a read! Or check them out in audiobook form: they're absolutely top-notch.
OuchYoureonmyhair
I can't wait to start!
bagosocks
My only regret is I have but one upvote to give. Sam Vimes is one of if not my favorite fictional character. Wonderfully flawed.
tomzombie
GNU Terry Pratchett
KennySantos101
"DON'T THINK OF IT AS DYING. IT'S MORE LIKE LEAVING EARLY TO AVOID THE RUSH." -Death
ThePirateCatsRule
Sam Vimes is my favourite fictional character ever. Except Jesus.. ......... Just kidding. Including Jesus.
SaltatSobrius
To truly understand your enemy, you should walk a mile in his shoes. Then if he is still your enemy he will be a mile away... without shoes
butwhyisthenamegone
GNU Terry Pratchett
ConstableIgor
Always good to see Terry Pratchett mentioned here.
damethelog
This is going to be controversial but I miss him most of all the people we've lost over recent years. GNU Sir Terry
myusernamebringsalltheboystotheyardandtheyrelikeitstoodamnlong
I'm so glad you included the unseen academicals quote. So fucking good
Isalan88
All days are holy, or none of them are.
datcord
Night Watch is on of my favorite books. I average a couple rereads a year.
Nevsaidso
Me too! 3 times so far since christmas
Geracht
That picture...of Bill Door, and Death, and Miss Flitworth. Please, do you have a source? It's beautiful. Utterly beautiful.
Tesseract09
GNU Terry Pratchett
Cigold
You forgot the one we should all live by: An apple a day keeps anyone away if you throw it hard enough. -Granny Weatherwax
osskil
Which one is this from? I love it.
Cigold
Carpe Jugulum I believe (don't log in often other than scrolling randomly on mobile, dont get notifications often :P )
foundatthepark
“Students, eh? Love 'em or hate 'em, you can't hit them with a shovel!” - Making Money
LordYsengrin
I grew up with these books. My now wife became my friend over them in the 6th grade.
JellyJigger
I keep all my Terry Pratchett books in a lit up display case. Even though they are beat up from reading and re-reading.
datcord
THOSE ARE THE BEST KIND TO DISPLAY. Seriously. I want to see the books you've LOVED, dammit. Not the ones you thought would look fanciest.
rockfireman
The Witches were always my favorites. I will say I cried while reading the final book (Shepherds Crown) it really gets to you.
ThePirateCatsRule
Buggerit. Millennium hand and shrimp.
Yakeshinu
*couch cough cough*
imnotthatblonde
For the Pratchett fans who wound up here and didn't know this exists- /a/BHfgN
damethelog
Thanks @imnotthatblonde that looks amazing. Straight to the bucket list
StandardDeviant
Going Postal is my absolute favorite, followed closely by Thud!
ioanave
the problem with starting with thud! is that you miss a lot of character development and resolution to a lot of key discrimination issues
StandardDeviant
That's absolutely right. Start with Men At Arms, for the Night Watch series. Going Postal, however, needs no introduction.
TheBlackWindHowls
All hail Carrot Ironfoundersson.
briham
Shhh! You trying to get yourself pinned to a pillar? He's a Captain, not a king. Wink wink.
StandardDeviant
Carrot of House Ironfoundersson, First of his Name
StandardDeviant
King of the Trolls and the Deep-Dwarves, Arrester of Dragons, Breaker of Gonnes, Golem-Fighter, and Smelter of the Truth
shhep
Never read the last one, probably never will. Shepherd's crown is just sitting at my shelf untouched. Can't read PTerry book knowing nothing
kanybal
Have you read Dodger, Nation, the Carpet People (and obviously Good Omens)? I've started rereading the Discworld rather than finishing it
shhep
else is down the line :(
osskil
Have you read the short stories? They're not much but they're something. And there's the one novella about the witches.
amberingo
I tried Color of Magic and just didn't like it :[ What would anyone recommend first for a basic newcomer?
zoysiate
Yeah, Color of Magic isn't a great one to start on... I really like Small Gods, Mort, and Going Postal as places to start
datcord
I'm just going to chime in and echo the Guards! Guards! suggestion. It's a very good place to start a Discworld journey.
rockfireman
I started with it too, didn't care for it but I prefer the witches. Start with Wyrd Sisters and continue on.
ioanave
either "guards! guards!" as a lot of people already said or if you want an individual story i recommend "small gods" - it's an amazing book
SquigBreath
i started with Guards! Guards! and always tell people to do the same.
Yakeshinu
Reaper man and Soul music are two of my favorites. I like the way he writes Death.
owen556
I started with The Amazing Maurice, The WeeFree Men, and Going Postal but Rincewind's series grew to be my all time favorite
osskil
Same! Pratchett himself says not to do that. Going Postal, the Wee Free Men, Guards! Guards!, Mort, Wyrd Sisters...all good choices.
JoeSpectre
Guards! Guards! the 1st City Watch book. Color of Magic & light fantastic were parody of fantasy tropes. Later books are great social satire
uponstrangeshores
The only good order is the order they were written in. Dont you want to see the series grow & change in the same order Sir Terry created it?
BeesechurgerProductions
I mean, Pratchett himself said not to read it in that order, so maybe they shouldn't
osskil
Which is why I included the written order. :) Also, I'd never have gotten into them if I'd read them in order; Pratchett advises against it.
MedicusSenpai
How should I read in then if not chronologically? Like what should you start with and then continue with? Thinking of gettin into the books
osskil
The chart has options for starter books--depends on what interests you. Guards! Guards! (city watch); Going Postal (reformed con-man) (1/3)
osskil
Wyrd Sisters (witches), Tiffany Aching (secondary witches series). Another good option is the standalone Small Gods, which is often... (2/3)
osskil
Considered the best of them.
AwesomeKazu
There are also some good Pratchett movies.
Yakeshinu
Teatime was so bloody well cast/acted.
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ioanave
The hogfather follows th book to the point. That's why it's a bit slow at times. But it's exactly what you get when you take the book 1/2
ioanave
And without any alteration make it a script. So it's weird that people criticized you for liking it. Color of magoc sucks though 2/2
ioanave
3/2 didn't think it through . Color of magic sucks (for me at least) as a book as well so maybe i'm a bit biased. Also twoflower was chinese
JamieSmyth
I think because Twoflower was a racist Chinese stereotype, they thought it would be less offensive to make the tourist American
SlyeFox
The only problem I have with the Colour of Magic is that unlike the other films, they compressed 2 books into 2 parts. So much was left out.
JamieSmyth
I love all the movie adaptations. I think Going Postal is my favourite. Fantastically cast.
AwesomeKazu
I love the book. But what made it so beautiful for me sadly didn't get captured in the movies.
13599
Yes! I thought the Patrician was super perfect.
JamieSmyth
Jeremy Irons with that little dog might be my favourite thing. I also really liked the chap delivering the letter at the very end...
Batorules
Tiffany Aching is possibly the best character ever written, IMHO
rockfireman
I love all the witches. Tiffany is good, but I think Granny and Nanny are the best.
Batorules
I haven't read the books before tiffany, but they sure are interesting characters
tcharmeleon
Sam Vimes may well win it for me.
Scusername
As a research Scientist I really love the dialogue between the wizards of Unseen University.
Yakeshinu
Hello, fellow scientist. After spending so many years in academia, I totally agree. I'm still most partial to Death, tho. (& Death of Rats)
Scusername
Me too, they're easily my favourite characters.
geonerd
I especially like The Librarian's dialog.
Scusername
I especially like when he said "oooook".
geonerd
Hah - yeah, that was a great comeback!
ThatsJustMyFace
I've read all of them. There's a lot of truth in those stories. Especially with Granny and Vimes.
afriendinneedsafriendindeedafriendwithmemesisbetter
"All he had was nothing, but that was something, and now it had been taken away." - T.P.
HugoArtemisRune
Vimes and granny are my favourite characters ever. As are nearly every other discworld character. LUGGAGE!
geonerd
I've read them all too, Sir Terry is a genius.
kanybal
I can't believe there hasn't been a Witches book since the last century. Makes me so sad that I've read them all
DoubleNubbin
I'd argue Tiffany Aching counts as a Witch...
osskil
Also, have you read The Sea and Little Fishes? I always mention it because it's a Granny story and people miss it!
kanybal
As a matter of fact, I haven't! I'll look it up
osskil
Well, the Tiffany books are sort of an extension of the Witches! We work with what we got, I guess...
kanybal
You're right of course! I forget about these because I couldn't read the Wee Free Men for the longest time, because of the Scottish slang
kanybal
(Because I'm French and my English wasn't good enough). So I think I've only read this one so far