Final approach at SFO

May 30, 2023 11:40 PM

Almost had em

You never had him. You never had your plane.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Now somebody open the door

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Love parallel runways.

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

*Danger zone theme plays*

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

It's United Airlines, so the first one is actually 5 hours late

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

MDW is spooky.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Only 750 feet of separation at SFO

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Breakaway breakaway UnitedXXX turn right heading zzz climb to altitude 3000 feet immediately

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Butter

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

In a parallel universe this would be just asking for it.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Fuck this website is so balky. It's like the servers are Orange cats and they're sharing ONE BRAIN CELL.

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Imgur is slowly coming to an end.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

That’s like the cleanest plane window ever!

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

"It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a nautical mile. Winning is winning"

2 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 2

If you’re not first, you’re last

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Me, yelling at the other plane: WHAT'S YOUR NAME!!!!

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I haven't been to a ton of airports, but SFO and Atlanta were my favourites. Boston worst.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Then you've never been to Schiphol.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You're correct!

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Back in July of 2013, I flew into SFO a few days after the crash of Asiana flight 214. When we looked out our windows at the other runway, we saw debris and the crashed plane. Weirdest landing ever.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Meh. SFO looks like Cthulhu from a map's perspective

2 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 4

Thats it's charm. XD

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

2 years ago | Likes 142 Dislikes 1

Never flew into SFO, but the approach looks very similar to the one at NGO (Nagoya Chubu Centrair) Water, ships, and then the reclaimed land.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

And KIX (Osaka).

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I flew into KIX once, but it was at night during a storm so I couldn't see much of the approach.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Give it a little S-turn and rub some paint.

2 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 0

Rubbin's racin'

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Is that a pier off the end of the runway? What's that doing there

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

There's one extending out from each runway, so... navigational assistance lights?

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Yes, runway approach lighting to assist with lining up with the runway in low visibility conditions. With the runways beginning near the waterline the lights have to be built out on the pier.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I should have guessed that

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Are there any planes that like spin up the tires before landing so they are already at the right speed when they touch down? Looks like these skidded a bit as they started spinning.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The wheels aren’t powered, and putting a mechanism on that: 1. Meets seriously designed and proven safe design and construction standards. 2. Is worth the weight and long term fuel cost ( less than the wear on the tires costs) And 3. Buncha other stuff you and I and others haven’t thot of yet. 4. Buncha others HAVE thot of and determined it ain’t worth it…… is why they dont spin tires up.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm no aviator, but i think the idea is to slow the plane down with resistance, not maintain speed? Also if they're spinning, any slight deviation in speed could see veering

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I was thinking less wear on the tires if they were already spun up. I don't think spinning up the tires slows the plane significantly.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

veering tho

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

If it can't slow down the plane than adjusting for minor differences in speed wouldn't matter either.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The pilots were doing that on purpose.

2 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 6

Doubt.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Landing?

2 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 0

Landing exactly at the same time.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

Pilots and ground control on landing:

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

some people like a challenge :-P

2 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 0

Courchevel ?

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

My favourite was the old Hong Kong airport, you had to fly directly at a mountainside and then make a sharp turn at the last minute to land there.

2 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Yeah I've seen some vids of that one too. There's another, I don't recall where...... if you run out of runway on landing, you go down a cliff. Pilots need certified training to use it.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

"Good afternoon passengers this is your captain speaking. We're on our final approach to SFO. If you look to your left you'll see that punk bitch, United flight 240, who thinks he can beat me in a race. I'll show him the meaning of 'fast' approach. Thank you for flying Spirit."

2 years ago | Likes 491 Dislikes 2

I live my life quarter runway at a time

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

"Holy Shit!!" both pilots exclaim, as a Southwest pilot comes in hot and slides that 737-800 Max sideways, overtaking their taxiway position Fast & Furious-style.

2 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

I lol’d at Spirit

2 years ago | Likes 64 Dislikes 0

"As such... In order to increase our approach angle for a faster touchdown I'm requesting the last third of the cabin passengers to move up to the front third of the plane, your timely assistance is appreciated."

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

(Overspeed alarm going nuts)

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You know this is fake because its not garbled as fuck and with the microphone so close to the mouth everything is muffled.

2 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 0

I had flown many times to a fair number of airports before I ever flew into SFO, and on that approach looking out of an airliner's windows, you can't really see forward enough to see there's an airport ahead. Makes it look like you're about to ditch in the water. SMF (Sacramento) is funky too, looks like you're going to land in a farm field. PDX just feels like you're going to taxi the whole way there.

2 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 1

First time I ever flew, we flew into LaGuardia. I thought we were gonna land in the East River.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Iqaluit Nunavut is also like that, you come in over tundra and sea ice or open ice cold arctic waters. its a butt pucker for sure. still better then the gravel runway we land on. long befor i worked here they landed on the lake.... It's a 737. landing on a frozen lake in a 45 year old plane is not how i want to go out

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

We were landing in Gander, Newfoundland and I thought it was a similar situation. Turns out we were way too low way too soon. Pilot had to power up again and we flew a few more minutes before we got to the runway. When we landed in the US, we bounced from side to side so badly the flight attendant gasped in terror and put her hand over her mouth. Bad pilot.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I'm gonna guess the pilot didn't have the cockpit door open when everyone disembarked. We had a bad landing once at Washington National, in a cabin full of frequent fliers. We yaw slid both left and right before they slammed all 3 gear to the ground and hammered the engine, air, and wheel brakes on basically right away. The whole cabin gave a collective groan after that very jostling pair of moves. Cockpit door was shut with 2 attendants standing solidly in front as we disembarked.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I asked the flight attendant, who was in a jump seat very near us, if we were supposed to land like that. I was kidding, but she had a terrified look on her face and shook her head "no." She probably would have been fired if they had known she indicated that. We changed pilots and few into RDU with "heavy turbulence." The landing was as smooth as glass. Everyone clapped.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I was going to say the same thing about my only time to SFO. I was just seeing water as we descended. It was like land appeared at the last second. Definitely spiked my anxiety.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Glad that it wasn’t “Wi Tu Lo”.

2 years ago | Likes 139 Dislikes 10

Sum Ding Wong

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 3

Holy shit that’s a deep cut

2 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 1

Not for people who lived in SFO when it happened.

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Bang Ding Ow

2 years ago | Likes 59 Dislikes 3

Wi Tu Lo

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

- Capt. Sum Ting Wong

2 years ago | Likes 37 Dislikes 0

Ho Lee Fuuk

2 years ago | Likes 32 Dislikes 0

The only thing better than seeing this pop up here was having watched the newscast live and recognizing the prank straight away. Poor Tori Campbell.

2 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 0

Same

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

https://youtu.be/jIE94r8G3xc for the uninitiated.

2 years ago | Likes 24 Dislikes 3

I bought a video card from a guy named "Dik Hung Lo" in the 90's. Oh man I wish that cellphone cameras had existed then.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

That’s awesome 👏 thanks for sharing!

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Top 3 funniest pranks of all time

2 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 5

What made it funny

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

The racism, duh!

2 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Don’t forget the 3 dead and 187 injured.

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Yes! That always makes me laugh!

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I used to fly a lot, and this was always my favorite airport to land at.

2 years ago | Likes 433 Dislikes 2

The worst is Laguna, CA. It's like they already take off straight up because noise ordinances only matter near wealthy neighborhoods. And the landings are terrifying. My favorite landing is Incheon in South Korea. Absolutely beautiful.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Kai Tak was the best.

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

The view of the San Francisco Bay on approach is something else, especially if you take the path over the Golden Gate.

2 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

I met a pilot from Southwest who said they can request the "bay tour" as they call it, from air traffic control. They take off out of Oakland and level off at like 3000 feet and hang a left over the bay and both bridges.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

ahh, that makes sense. I flew out of Oakland every month for 4-5 years and I could never get enough of that sight

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Especially at night. Beautiful

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I went to Hong Kong once when I was younger, back when the old airport was still in use. I still remember practically flying between the buildings on approach.

2 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

I’ve heard of this. You’re talking about Kowloon, right?

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

San Jose Airport to the south of this is like that. The approach path takes you right over downtown, to the runway just outside it.

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

The approach at Kai Tak took you through the buildings. Planes had to actually weave around them to land.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Same here. Except the very first time when it was foggy. It was like: cloud, cloud, cloud, OMG 3 feet from water!

2 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

So true!

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Wait, MOST of the time you landed in SFO it was clear?!?!

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I worked at SFO for about 20 years. Very rare to have fog down on the peninsula. That's a SF city thing.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

No but I know what to expect now. Like the first time flying into San Diego and thinking we were going to clip a parking garage (we weren't really THAT close but still).

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yah I live in SF. This was today. Good old 757 race.

2 years ago | Likes 87 Dislikes 1

Did they finally finish the damn construction on the runways? I was circling for hours 2 months ago

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Have you even flown into Burbank airport? Shortest runway possible so it’s wild!

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I’ve flown into Aberdeen, Scotland where I was the last plane allowed….20 minutes of landing FUCK A SHEEP?! Boom!! “We’re putting all other flights to Edinburgh “

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

They're side-by-side for safety. If one were to have a failure and veer towards the other, they'd wind up behind them.

2 years ago | Likes 295 Dislikes 75

Wrong, there is a very big mirror is what we are see :D

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 3

The funny part is that your comment is getting downvoted for saying something entirely stupid as the original comment, thats got 2++ upvotes.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Your geometry is correct, but your statement is not. We do take safety very seriously, but parallel runways and pure coincidence made this happen.

2 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 0

Corrected. See: /gallery/ROMJBS8/comment/2329434873

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I learned a lot researching my comment (that had only naive justification): https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/stamp/stamp.jsp?arnumber=5935382

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Looks like the FAA has been studying this for a while and might have put instrumentation in to allow parallel landings to increase efficiency. I didn't have time to read all 126 pages though.
https://www.tc.faa.gov/its/worldpac/techrpt/afs420-84-1.pdf

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It depends on the equipment that the airport has. Some allow parallel, and some have a trail requirement. SFO allows parallel, but PHL has a stagger. Regardless, if a navigation failure happens, it gets hairy for all parties involved.

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

That doesn’t explain the drag race “Christmas tree” lights hanging from a balloon over old Candlestick Park. Kids in their hot rides airplanes race out there all the time. It’s a known issue and the CHP refuses to get involved!

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I award you one ha for the effort you put in to this

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Incorrect, you need to follow a special procedure for this.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

"Push a button!"

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Great example of how someone can present bullshit as fact and get praised for it.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I've offered clarification. See: /gallery/ROMJBS8/comment/2329434873

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

This is a prime example of how a comment full of ignorance gets upvotes from people who has not idea about the topic. Then the comment is more visible than others and keep spreeding ignorance.

2 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

Corrected. See: /gallery/ROMJBS8/comment/2329434873

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Welcome to Imgur.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

That sounds like bullsh*t. Also, I'm a pilot. There are definitely separation constraints for simultaneous approach on parallel runways, but the "line up precisely next to each other for safety" thing is not something I've ever heard ATC say.

2 years ago | Likes 201 Dislikes 3

SFO is too close in IMC. You need like Denver far apart for unrestricted simul.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It's so their wing tips can give each other a high five after they land.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Corrected. See: /gallery/ROMJBS8/comment/2329434873

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Very cool! I love how random comments on the internet can lead people to expand their understanding. And the fact that you took this route instead of the easy one says a lot more about you than any comment alone could say. I think you're the kind of person I would get along with. Cheers.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Thank you for the compliment, and have a fine day. :)

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Agree

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

They're in a low altitude funnel gunnell, i've seen it a hundred times in the tower

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

uhhhhh negative tower, we'll go around

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Do you have PRM training?

2 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 3

Yes.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 3

I do, and have done actual prm approaches. And have never heard ATC put 2 planes parallel as a requirement. They can, but don't have to

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

ATC here. They’re more than likely on instrument approaches that have been calculated and mapped out into oblivion allowing for reduced separation minima down final

2 years ago | Likes 83 Dislikes 0

Most likely the visual. They like pairing up the landings on the 28s like that so they can launch departures off the 1s.

2 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

May i ask as a total landlubber, why would they be on instrument approach in clear daylight? I thought instrument was for poor visibility

2 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

I think most landings nowadays are done by autopilot. That may be why

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

Pilot here, no they’re not. Most approaches yes, but landings are manual 98% of the time, ie we disconnect autopilot somewhere on the approach. How early is up to the crew and what mindset the airline has in allowing for “maintaining basic handling skills”. Only when visibility is really bad, making it impossible to land with visual references, do we autoland (ILS Cat III).

2 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Generally yes but at busier airports like this one, this is just more practical for standardized safety. Think of it this way: even on a crystal clear day you want lanes on a highway. Instrumentation removes a layer of human error

2 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 1

Many high traffic airports have "auto" landing systems in place to assist with landing regardless of visibility to boost safety and comfort. The pilots are more of the program setters in those landings.

2 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Hi, also ATC, I'd like to see those flips because I'm curious if the they're kept at different depending angles for 500+ ft vertical separation until they're sub 1k or something along those lines.

2 years ago | Likes 37 Dislikes 1

respectfully :D

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Descending* angles

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Same, I am also ATC (At the club) and can confirm.

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Just checked your profile out and congrats on getting the job and the Air Force is a good way to get your feet wet. I was in from 2012-18, got a couple of deployments, did some contract work and now I’m with the FAA. I hope you love it as much as I have.

2 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 0

I'm having a great time, 98 GPA but canyon radar is kicking my ass.

2 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 0

No it's not. It's a PRM approach

2 years ago | Likes 39 Dislikes 9

What’s PRM mean

2 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 3

Precision runway monitor. Basically high accurate radar, with a tight scan area. Allows planes to be that close, but severely limited in terms of equipment that must be working.

2 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

[deleted]

[deleted]

2 years ago (deleted Jun 4, 2023 12:42 AM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

It's to enable efficient, simultaneous use of close parallel runways. There's no requirement to be abeam on the approach

2 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 4

I've offered refinement on this point. See: /gallery/ROMJBS8/comment/2329434873

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Hey, I watched that video when I flew the regional jet

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Could you explain more on how using the runways in a staggered fashion would make it less efficient?

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I have a hunch its for wake turbulence avoidance on departure. They have to sequence takeoffs and landings by a # of minutes. Having both land and takeoff at the same time is better than spacing and having wave turb drift over the parallel runway. But you'd have to ask an ATC controller.

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

ATC here, if they have clearance to land aircraft on both runways simultaneously within specific guidelines / when criteria is met (approach types etc.) Then no reason to stagger them out. It's already annoying enough to space things for wake turbulence on a single runway. Example - two 737s need 4 miles between them on final, if you then also need to space for the other runway, that would add let's say another 3 miles. So now plane C is 7 miles from landing because of a different runway.

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0