Feb 14, 2018 6:03 PM
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SunAnvil
Make sure you know when, where and if you are registered https://www.usa.gov/register-to-vote
QuackDodgers
It's so hard to want to be a part of any of it when everything political ends up like all these comments, insanely discouraging.
EyesOnICE
Sad that election days are not national holidays. The people that need to vote can't vote because they are trying to pay the bills.
ArugulaZ
No matter what happens, Michigan's Rick Snyder will be forced to leave due to term limits. He deserves far worse for what he did to Flint.
bokwyCorgiLifter
Here, here!
lizardsbehere
So basically replace every single seat, both Democrat and Republican. Sounds good to me
Koravel34
Very little of this will matter if gerrymandering isn't fixed. And the GOP is trying to impeach judges who are trying to force them to do so
PullShporttel
Here's a handy list of people to vote out of office: https://www.google.com/search?q=congresspeople+who+supported+Net+Neutrality+Repeal
o4kill
If you're in a "red state" or "blue state" get registered in the dominant party and vote in the PRIMARIES. Primaries are where it's at.
txtmylife
This is a serious chance to let Congress know that no matter who is stacking their coffers, the people decide who stays and who goes.
Zarf42
The amount of people in the US that don't vote is alarming.
Shohanna
Those are the smart ones, they learned early on, that they don't control the vote.
guardianofhonor
Remember remember the 6th of November....2018. Please vote America
lostwalllet
https://gizmodo.com/taxpayers-covered-trump-cabinet-members-122k-family-va-1823004920
SheDevilinaSnuggie
MAKE SURE YOU'RE REGISTERED! Even if you've voted recently, check. They sometimes purge voter names.
flavivsaetivs
Vote for Nuclear Energy! Clean, efficient, safe, and superior to all other sources!
MonsterGood
If all it take to get into office is being a liar and a jerk my ex should run
Beleg7
Vote to protect the country: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/03/boycott-the-gop/550907/?utm_source=twb
BQZip
Also...this happens every 2 years (approximately)
Seedster5
Vote democrat
joesmith369
'cause none of them lie :D
Cheomesh
If they warrant my vote, sure.
CyanideSprite
Yep. Share links like this. https://np.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/6pc5qu/democrats_propose_rules_to_break_up_broadband/dkon8t4/
shackslam
Glad to see more people sharing that link.
thrain5
This statement has been going around for 20 years. Still no change.
UglyHorribleGrouchyOldMan
This statement has been around for centuries. People despise Congress, however, those same people like their representatives.
Mitch McConnell, and Rand Paul can go suck a dick for all I care, I want them OUT!
Hyper-partisan politics is what's caused the situation in the first place. Your stance and suggestion would just be a continuance.
MrFnortner
The problem is that you can't vote out someone from another district. People LIKE their own elected official but dislike the others.
VioletMoonRising
Someone needs to put up a website that simply shows which politicians are bought by who and how they voted on big button issues.
https://reddit.com/r/technology/comments/6pc5qu/democrats_propose_rules_to_break_up_broadband/dkon8t4
Sekolah
Easy to propose shit when you have no chance of making it work, kinda like the repubs saying they will fix healthcare and then won't
TargaryenLoyalist
Like anyone would read it? It’s not even that hard right now to find out that info, but the public just doesn’t care enough to do anything.
RabidEjaculator
Bingo
DerTintenfisch
I always thought about making something like this in college. Put in your zip and see who's up and who's got the most skeletons
Like... http://www.ontheissues.org ?
Bizarkly
So: like ">s.org">opensecrets.org or fec.gov? Well, *that* took 30 seconds of Googling...
candiduscorvus
Get rid of all incumbents.
Well, the guy running for congress against the incumbent isn't demonstrably an improvement.
Not always, no. Vote for the individual but damn the people who think their champion incumbent is awesome who elect a monster every time...
MyLabrum
Make sure you are registered to be able to vote and check sooner than later. Some states are sneaky with that.
theBannedBandit
They make it so we can't.
ProjectSatan
are you going to vote to try to make a difference or complain that you are powerless and not even try?
I probably quit voting before you were even allowed to. You'll learn.
so youre complaining youre powerless and not even trying. you are not a good example of a person i would want to be.
Vote extra hard just for me!
whats great about voting is your opinion doesnt matter to me what so ever, and i actually get a chance to help get what i want.
you quit voting over a decade ago?
Yes.
awesome. glad to see that you are doing nothing to help the problem. thank you for all your efforts and giving up. america appreciates it.
poorwhitetrash
As a liar and a jerk, I approve this message.
GreenYawgmoth
Or do you?
ifcrepescouldcry
Sweet my birthday
Herbaria
Ditto!
NotSinceYourAccident
Yo, mine too
Mybrainfartwaswet
That would mean dissolving Congress....not the worst idea.
michealabouyea365
You do understand how the checks and balances work right?
BalphEubanksLeftNut
There's an executive branch that would be all to happy to pick up the slack...
TuggSpeedmann
“For a safe and secure society”
Tyrinus
Mass vote out just to make a point.
Cheeseyfunkymonkey
There is such a thing as Congressional Disolusion. If Congress can't do their job, they are out and must run again.
Not in the US. Australia has it in there constitution. US can't even do term limits
2shy4you
Afraid there ISNT such a thing and since it isnt in the constitution, it never will be. As congress, senate, and states would have to ratify
CasadePapel
what part of the constitution is that in?
Arcian
Fuck it, I'd literally dissolve Congress in a vat of hydrofluoric acid if I could.
override367
Can we aim for the lesser goal of getting the maliciously evil and/or nazis out of office? Because I'll take the 90s status quo any day
You're obviously young.
InfamousGerbil
You don’t have to be young to be misinformed
4Endymion
Primaries are far more important in many areas.
Geo80
Primaries and parties should be outlawed.
On one hand, freedom of association. On the other, fuck political parties.
DVSBSTrD
No.
Outlawed in the sense of "not given any official recognition by the process"? Sure thing. #nebraskarocks #openprimary
Lookatmyemailaddress
Yeah we need more government intervention to fix whats wrong in the government. Problem solved
Nibbets
I'm gonna run. I'm 27 with no experience in politics but I promise to listen to my Imgur community! Vote 4 Nibbets
ForceAwakenWasLame
Will you legalize prostitution? Count me in bub.
Primaries are far more important.
VladimirsKacs
I hate to be going against trend here, but primaries are actually more important.
No shit. If people took primaries seriously, Bernie would've won. But instead we have bunch of entitled millennials making excuses.
Bullshit, that shit was rotten from the start. He was robbed. It was RIGGED. People DID come out and vote and it was stolen, in the open.
Yeeeeeaaaaaah no. It wasn't. You're thinking of the caucuses.
NewtGinGrinch
Demand term limits.
LCDJosh
Let the "that won't work" comments begin. For some reason it works for the president but won't work for congress.
ShaZam1269
Getting the money out of politics would be better. Otherwise we're throwing out the baby with the bath water.
It's a double edge sword
I do not want term limits.
EffeminateGuysTurnMeOn
Yass, Queen!
Don't listen to the people who say it's not a good idea. The old guard is entrenched with lobbyists and they have much more long lasting
relationships. It's more costly for lobbyists to influence new people and there's less psychological debt in play.
rapture145
Term limits might not be the answer to our problems. It’ll probably make things worse ceteris paribus.
Is that you Mitch ?
shh, you’re gonna blow my cover!
Flyndaran
The problem with re-electing shitheads has obviously nothing to do with those voting, only term limits.
CharlieWhiskey3
We already have term limits.. They are called elections
passerby157
Don't know about term limits. But certainly remove money from politics. Wolf-PAC
jrntn
Term limits means no more Bernie.
Halfbreed90
All are talking like term limits would be like the 2 term presidency. We can set the limits. 5 terms is still 10years in Congress.
ReitnesTenought
Not like they'll vote themselves out of a job.
ThatOneGuyFromKYinND
A few will, but you're right, not enough.
As a united people we need to come together and demand it or it wont happen.
jpparkenbone
Yeah, remind me how that worked out for net neutrality despite the fact that more than 90% of people were against repeal.
They claimed that people sullied the vote and discredited that 90% .. but ya know they say Russian meddling doesnt matter so why would that?
thefrompleman
just have a fucking revolution and get over yourselves
Beelsebooob
Term limits wouldn't help fix US politics, in fact, they'd probably make it worse - it's much better to have career politicians than to 1/
have new lobbyists come in, not caring about what they fuck up, as long as they get their agenda though. What WOULD make a difference 2/
[deleted]
Of course they can - they just become "not a lobbyist" once in office.
is demanding a constitutional amendment to overturn Citizens United, and make bribery illegal, rather than explicitly legal. 3/3
The founding fathers were against the entire concept of career politicians. They muddy the waters for everyone coming into the pool.
Sure - and I disagree with the founding fathers on this aspect - career politicians are a good thing as far as I'm concerned. A continual1/
KartFnocker
not actually a good idea. Results in a wave of newbies every term that are even MORE reliant on lobbyists to tell them what to do
TheGhostofElizabethShue
Also bad for independents and great for the big parties who have a deep bench of sycophants they can sub in each term.
good point, hadn't thought of that aspect
Weed through them. They get found out by how they vote and what actions they take. We get to the independents/newbies. We raise em up.
CycloneSP
then that means you implemented it wrong. if you set it up right, then you'll be able to maintain a proper ratio of new/vetarin members
nero4ty2
i can see both sides of the fence, i agree with your point but there should be some upper limit, 12 yrs maybe, definitely not 1 or 2 terms
yea i'd be cool with that, or age limits. The age thing would be even harder to sell, though
And is really hard to have a test for, some people are fine mentally into their 90s, others start crapping out in their 60d
I know, it'd be impossible. Meanwhile this guy might be 3rd in line for the presidency after Orrin Hatch retires
the problem with a mentally fit 80 yo is the fact that usually their world views are dated and they are inflexible on a lot of points.
ThisOneTimeInZelda
Yes instead we should let 80 year olds that can't operate a computer stay in.
Sure, I mentioned age limits 3 comments up
There's a lot of comments here man, I'm just here to smoke weed and hate the government.
I'm down
CaffeineManic
Also vote out the hypocrites, sexual predators, corporate tools and bribe takers. And try to vote in good honest independent thinkers.
ProfessorDumbass
So get rid of everyone?
aleister94
Don't forget the holocaust deniers
jayharrisbb6
So there goes about 99% of sitting politicians
Datsinginguy
There will be no one left in Washington DC!
Zyrixion
I wish that we could, but you don't get on a ballot by being a good, honest, independent thinker in this political culture.
RelativeVelocity
But no one will show up to work
CthuluIsMyHomie
Can you find me one that isn’t a corporate tool?
I'm liable to think good, honest, independent thinkers go on to become activists more often than politicians.
firefighter26
So... like 95% of the politicians then?
Vote for whoever actually had you back last time (regardless of their merits as a person,) and if it's no one- vote them out (even if nice.)
If you mean voting only for your self interest with no regard for what's good for society, I don't think I could agree with you.
Only "self interest" in the sense of "advancing whats interesting to you". Politics is a job, and we've turned it into a popularity contest
LincLoud
So vote out all, cool but that leaves no one to vote in
Unfortunately, there will always be the lesser of two evils. I really think every position should also have a none of the above choice.
I feel that removing many from office may work to some degree, we need to remove money, in some way so that anyone can run
Angrierthanthatguy
So, Justice Democrats?
it's sad that bribes are legal over there, literally out in the open not even trying to hide it
Well, we do call them corporate campaign contributions, so we've got that going for us.
mmurrbles
It's like marijuana just because you make it illegal doesn't stop people from doing it. So why should it be illegal?
JsonAson
Unlike marijuana it's making a complete mess of the country, threatening the foundations of democracy.
marijuana was made illegal because of bribes
RenaissanceFaireMan
So drain the swamp and fill it with myths, wishful thinking & legends?
DRAIN THE SWAMP RIGHT INTO MY EYES.
DevinNatTyv
That would be an improvement on thoughts and prayers at least.
Gandhididnothingwrong
Still better than what we have
I'm sad that you think honesty and integrity are myths and legends.
It's sad you think a Shrek joke is serious.
requit
They are in people with power.
RiverRoyal
The idea of the vote in democracies is that YOU choose your representatives. Apathy and cynicism amongst the electorate is the problem here.
They're in power because people keep voting for the lesser of two evils.
Turns out power corrupts people pretty consistently, and has through all of human history.
That's the only choices the Powers give you. Not the voter's fault. Unless you want to start a revolution.... LOL
SleeperXib
I wish you were wrong.
SunAnvil
Make sure you know when, where and if you are registered https://www.usa.gov/register-to-vote
QuackDodgers
It's so hard to want to be a part of any of it when everything political ends up like all these comments, insanely discouraging.
EyesOnICE
Sad that election days are not national holidays. The people that need to vote can't vote because they are trying to pay the bills.
ArugulaZ
No matter what happens, Michigan's Rick Snyder will be forced to leave due to term limits. He deserves far worse for what he did to Flint.
bokwyCorgiLifter
Here, here!
lizardsbehere
So basically replace every single seat, both Democrat and Republican. Sounds good to me
Koravel34
Very little of this will matter if gerrymandering isn't fixed. And the GOP is trying to impeach judges who are trying to force them to do so
PullShporttel
Here's a handy list of people to vote out of office: https://www.google.com/search?q=congresspeople+who+supported+Net+Neutrality+Repeal
o4kill
If you're in a "red state" or "blue state" get registered in the dominant party and vote in the PRIMARIES. Primaries are where it's at.
txtmylife
This is a serious chance to let Congress know that no matter who is stacking their coffers, the people decide who stays and who goes.
Zarf42
The amount of people in the US that don't vote is alarming.
Shohanna
Those are the smart ones, they learned early on, that they don't control the vote.
guardianofhonor
Remember remember the 6th of November....2018. Please vote America
lostwalllet
https://gizmodo.com/taxpayers-covered-trump-cabinet-members-122k-family-va-1823004920
SheDevilinaSnuggie
MAKE SURE YOU'RE REGISTERED! Even if you've voted recently, check. They sometimes purge voter names.
flavivsaetivs
Vote for Nuclear Energy! Clean, efficient, safe, and superior to all other sources!
MonsterGood
If all it take to get into office is being a liar and a jerk my ex should run
Beleg7
Vote to protect the country: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/03/boycott-the-gop/550907/?utm_source=twb
BQZip
Also...this happens every 2 years (approximately)
Seedster5
Vote democrat
joesmith369
'cause none of them lie :D
Cheomesh
If they warrant my vote, sure.
CyanideSprite
Yep. Share links like this. https://np.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/6pc5qu/democrats_propose_rules_to_break_up_broadband/dkon8t4/
shackslam
Glad to see more people sharing that link.
thrain5
This statement has been going around for 20 years. Still no change.
UglyHorribleGrouchyOldMan
This statement has been around for centuries. People despise Congress, however, those same people like their representatives.
Shohanna
Mitch McConnell, and Rand Paul can go suck a dick for all I care, I want them OUT!
UglyHorribleGrouchyOldMan
Hyper-partisan politics is what's caused the situation in the first place. Your stance and suggestion would just be a continuance.
MrFnortner
The problem is that you can't vote out someone from another district. People LIKE their own elected official but dislike the others.
VioletMoonRising
Someone needs to put up a website that simply shows which politicians are bought by who and how they voted on big button issues.
shackslam
https://reddit.com/r/technology/comments/6pc5qu/democrats_propose_rules_to_break_up_broadband/dkon8t4
Sekolah
Easy to propose shit when you have no chance of making it work, kinda like the repubs saying they will fix healthcare and then won't
TargaryenLoyalist
Like anyone would read it? It’s not even that hard right now to find out that info, but the public just doesn’t care enough to do anything.
RabidEjaculator
Bingo
DerTintenfisch
I always thought about making something like this in college. Put in your zip and see who's up and who's got the most skeletons
Cheomesh
Like... http://www.ontheissues.org ?
Bizarkly
So: like ">s.org">opensecrets.org or fec.gov? Well, *that* took 30 seconds of Googling...
candiduscorvus
Get rid of all incumbents.
Cheomesh
Well, the guy running for congress against the incumbent isn't demonstrably an improvement.
candiduscorvus
Not always, no. Vote for the individual but damn the people who think their champion incumbent is awesome who elect a monster every time...
MyLabrum
Make sure you are registered to be able to vote and check sooner than later. Some states are sneaky with that.
theBannedBandit
They make it so we can't.
ProjectSatan
are you going to vote to try to make a difference or complain that you are powerless and not even try?
theBannedBandit
I probably quit voting before you were even allowed to. You'll learn.
ProjectSatan
so youre complaining youre powerless and not even trying. you are not a good example of a person i would want to be.
theBannedBandit
Vote extra hard just for me!
ProjectSatan
whats great about voting is your opinion doesnt matter to me what so ever, and i actually get a chance to help get what i want.
ProjectSatan
you quit voting over a decade ago?
theBannedBandit
Yes.
ProjectSatan
awesome. glad to see that you are doing nothing to help the problem. thank you for all your efforts and giving up. america appreciates it.
poorwhitetrash
As a liar and a jerk, I approve this message.
GreenYawgmoth
Or do you?
ifcrepescouldcry
Sweet my birthday
Herbaria
Ditto!
NotSinceYourAccident
Yo, mine too
Mybrainfartwaswet
That would mean dissolving Congress....not the worst idea.
michealabouyea365
You do understand how the checks and balances work right?
BalphEubanksLeftNut
There's an executive branch that would be all to happy to pick up the slack...
TuggSpeedmann
“For a safe and secure society”
Tyrinus
Mass vote out just to make a point.
Cheeseyfunkymonkey
There is such a thing as Congressional Disolusion. If Congress can't do their job, they are out and must run again.
Cheeseyfunkymonkey
Not in the US. Australia has it in there constitution. US can't even do term limits
2shy4you
Afraid there ISNT such a thing and since it isnt in the constitution, it never will be. As congress, senate, and states would have to ratify
CasadePapel
what part of the constitution is that in?
Arcian
Fuck it, I'd literally dissolve Congress in a vat of hydrofluoric acid if I could.
override367
Can we aim for the lesser goal of getting the maliciously evil and/or nazis out of office? Because I'll take the 90s status quo any day
Mybrainfartwaswet
You're obviously young.
InfamousGerbil
You don’t have to be young to be misinformed
4Endymion
Primaries are far more important in many areas.
Geo80
Primaries and parties should be outlawed.
Cheomesh
On one hand, freedom of association. On the other, fuck political parties.
DVSBSTrD
No.
o4kill
Outlawed in the sense of "not given any official recognition by the process"? Sure thing. #nebraskarocks #openprimary
Lookatmyemailaddress
Yeah we need more government intervention to fix whats wrong in the government. Problem solved
Nibbets
I'm gonna run. I'm 27 with no experience in politics but I promise to listen to my Imgur community! Vote 4 Nibbets
ForceAwakenWasLame
Will you legalize prostitution? Count me in bub.
DVSBSTrD
Primaries are far more important.
VladimirsKacs
I hate to be going against trend here, but primaries are actually more important.
DVSBSTrD
No shit. If people took primaries seriously, Bernie would've won. But instead we have bunch of entitled millennials making excuses.
Shohanna
Bullshit, that shit was rotten from the start. He was robbed. It was RIGGED. People DID come out and vote and it was stolen, in the open.
DVSBSTrD
Yeeeeeaaaaaah no. It wasn't. You're thinking of the caucuses.
NewtGinGrinch
Demand term limits.
LCDJosh
Let the "that won't work" comments begin. For some reason it works for the president but won't work for congress.
ShaZam1269
Getting the money out of politics would be better. Otherwise we're throwing out the baby with the bath water.
Lookatmyemailaddress
It's a double edge sword
Cheomesh
I do not want term limits.
EffeminateGuysTurnMeOn
Yass, Queen!
CyanideSprite
Don't listen to the people who say it's not a good idea. The old guard is entrenched with lobbyists and they have much more long lasting
CyanideSprite
relationships. It's more costly for lobbyists to influence new people and there's less psychological debt in play.
rapture145
Term limits might not be the answer to our problems. It’ll probably make things worse ceteris paribus.
NewtGinGrinch
Is that you Mitch ?
rapture145
Flyndaran
The problem with re-electing shitheads has obviously nothing to do with those voting, only term limits.
CharlieWhiskey3
We already have term limits.. They are called elections
passerby157
Don't know about term limits. But certainly remove money from politics. Wolf-PAC
jrntn
Term limits means no more Bernie.
Halfbreed90
All are talking like term limits would be like the 2 term presidency. We can set the limits. 5 terms is still 10years in Congress.
ReitnesTenought
Not like they'll vote themselves out of a job.
ThatOneGuyFromKYinND
A few will, but you're right, not enough.
NewtGinGrinch
As a united people we need to come together and demand it or it wont happen.
jpparkenbone
Yeah, remind me how that worked out for net neutrality despite the fact that more than 90% of people were against repeal.
NewtGinGrinch
They claimed that people sullied the vote and discredited that 90% .. but ya know they say Russian meddling doesnt matter so why would that?
thefrompleman
just have a fucking revolution and get over yourselves
Beelsebooob
Term limits wouldn't help fix US politics, in fact, they'd probably make it worse - it's much better to have career politicians than to 1/
Beelsebooob
have new lobbyists come in, not caring about what they fuck up, as long as they get their agenda though. What WOULD make a difference 2/
[deleted]
[deleted]
Beelsebooob
Of course they can - they just become "not a lobbyist" once in office.
[deleted]
[deleted]
Beelsebooob
is demanding a constitutional amendment to overturn Citizens United, and make bribery illegal, rather than explicitly legal. 3/3
NewtGinGrinch
The founding fathers were against the entire concept of career politicians. They muddy the waters for everyone coming into the pool.
Beelsebooob
Sure - and I disagree with the founding fathers on this aspect - career politicians are a good thing as far as I'm concerned. A continual1/
KartFnocker
not actually a good idea. Results in a wave of newbies every term that are even MORE reliant on lobbyists to tell them what to do
TheGhostofElizabethShue
Also bad for independents and great for the big parties who have a deep bench of sycophants they can sub in each term.
KartFnocker
good point, hadn't thought of that aspect
NewtGinGrinch
Weed through them. They get found out by how they vote and what actions they take. We get to the independents/newbies. We raise em up.
CycloneSP
then that means you implemented it wrong. if you set it up right, then you'll be able to maintain a proper ratio of new/vetarin members
nero4ty2
i can see both sides of the fence, i agree with your point but there should be some upper limit, 12 yrs maybe, definitely not 1 or 2 terms
KartFnocker
yea i'd be cool with that, or age limits. The age thing would be even harder to sell, though
nero4ty2
And is really hard to have a test for, some people are fine mentally into their 90s, others start crapping out in their 60d
KartFnocker
I know, it'd be impossible. Meanwhile this guy might be 3rd in line for the presidency after Orrin Hatch retires
CycloneSP
the problem with a mentally fit 80 yo is the fact that usually their world views are dated and they are inflexible on a lot of points.
ThisOneTimeInZelda
Yes instead we should let 80 year olds that can't operate a computer stay in.
KartFnocker
Sure, I mentioned age limits 3 comments up
ThisOneTimeInZelda
There's a lot of comments here man, I'm just here to smoke weed and hate the government.
KartFnocker
I'm down
CaffeineManic
Also vote out the hypocrites, sexual predators, corporate tools and bribe takers. And try to vote in good honest independent thinkers.
ProfessorDumbass
So get rid of everyone?
aleister94
Don't forget the holocaust deniers
jayharrisbb6
So there goes about 99% of sitting politicians
Datsinginguy
There will be no one left in Washington DC!
Zyrixion
I wish that we could, but you don't get on a ballot by being a good, honest, independent thinker in this political culture.
RelativeVelocity
But no one will show up to work
CthuluIsMyHomie
Can you find me one that isn’t a corporate tool?
Cheomesh
I'm liable to think good, honest, independent thinkers go on to become activists more often than politicians.
firefighter26
So... like 95% of the politicians then?
VladimirsKacs
Vote for whoever actually had you back last time (regardless of their merits as a person,) and if it's no one- vote them out (even if nice.)
CaffeineManic
If you mean voting only for your self interest with no regard for what's good for society, I don't think I could agree with you.
VladimirsKacs
Only "self interest" in the sense of "advancing whats interesting to you". Politics is a job, and we've turned it into a popularity contest
LincLoud
So vote out all, cool but that leaves no one to vote in
CaffeineManic
Unfortunately, there will always be the lesser of two evils. I really think every position should also have a none of the above choice.
LincLoud
I feel that removing many from office may work to some degree, we need to remove money, in some way so that anyone can run
Angrierthanthatguy
So, Justice Democrats?
thefrompleman
it's sad that bribes are legal over there, literally out in the open not even trying to hide it
CaffeineManic
Well, we do call them corporate campaign contributions, so we've got that going for us.
mmurrbles
It's like marijuana just because you make it illegal doesn't stop people from doing it. So why should it be illegal?
JsonAson
Unlike marijuana it's making a complete mess of the country, threatening the foundations of democracy.
thefrompleman
marijuana was made illegal because of bribes
RenaissanceFaireMan
So drain the swamp and fill it with myths, wishful thinking & legends?
Cheomesh
DRAIN THE SWAMP RIGHT INTO MY EYES.
DevinNatTyv
That would be an improvement on thoughts and prayers at least.
Gandhididnothingwrong
Still better than what we have
CaffeineManic
I'm sad that you think honesty and integrity are myths and legends.
RenaissanceFaireMan
It's sad you think a Shrek joke is serious.
requit
They are in people with power.
RiverRoyal
The idea of the vote in democracies is that YOU choose your representatives. Apathy and cynicism amongst the electorate is the problem here.
CaffeineManic
They're in power because people keep voting for the lesser of two evils.
requit
Turns out power corrupts people pretty consistently, and has through all of human history.
Shohanna
That's the only choices the Powers give you. Not the voter's fault. Unless you want to start a revolution.... LOL
SleeperXib
I wish you were wrong.