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CardsStl314
I won custody of my daughter and I’m a father. But it took me 2 1/2 years and over $30,000 in lawyer fees.
HighFunctioningAlcoholic
Judge Judy is definitely not judging parental rights cases.
imgurianitarian
Metrophage
Judy was a family courts judge before reality tv.
pedanticallyspeaking
Thanks for that
ZT369
Organoleptic
TIL filming your TV screen with a potato gets you to the frontpage, OC still does not
TheAnswerIsTheMoops
NeuroticNailBiter
Except in Texas
sirprize
As a Texan. I can say Texas is fucked up in a lot of ways. Great tacos though.
Chewthestitches
Judge Judy, tellin' it like it is. Dads need love too!
NachoPete
But they had love. That's how they became dads.
goingtochipotlewitharistotle
I’m a feminist and believe women and men can be equally good (or bad) caretakers and parents. Favoritism of moms in these cases = sexist.
AJ2071
feminists are often just as guilty of the very thing they claim to be fighting against
ccyanide0
There seems to be a chip on your shoulder where your head should be
LordDebuchan
Sauce. Because it took 3 seconds to Google it and provide more frames. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tpy8NMonHE0
NoThisIsPatrick4
Good guy LordDebuchan here
szai
Thank you! My eyes are always too slow to read the subtitles in gifs.
thecolonels
'Dads have no rights' = win partial custody like half the time they actually try to get it.
Unverified
and still have to pay child support
DrSparken
More like win total custody if they actually try fight it. The bias is actually in favour of men in court, but the statistics don't 1/
DrSparken
appear to show that because they're always *all* divorces, including out-of-court settlements. Which make up more than 80% and have the 2/
DrSparken
opposite bias, *because men don't bother to fight for it* in settlements. 3/3
Mithelen
Do you think when dad’s fight for it they win because they only fight for it when they know they’ll win?
DrSparken
An interesting theory but not supported by analysis of cases - mothers will be scrutinised far more closely, and a *perfect* mother has 1/
thecolonels
If you are a stay at home dad there is such a good chance to get custody. But you dont want that.
TheLandlord123
This is feminism. Is not just to make things better for women but also to make things better for men that lived oppressed for other men
towelsareweak350
If it's not for just women but for both the sexes than why not just be egalitarian? That's not modern feminism anyway.
ccyanide0
Because egalitarianism already means something else and covers separate issues.
towelsareweak350
Um... what? Egalitarianism is believing everyone is equal and society should be fair to everyone. What are you smoking mate?
towelsareweak350
If you're going to be fighting for equality for both men and women then what's the point? At that point it's egalitarianism under
towelsareweak350
a different name.
Sooooooooooooooooooo
Oooooh such a powerful messaggeeeee. (Fake scripted courtroom.)
wdasm42
It's imgur circlejerk time!! I'll get the lube boys brb
towelsareweak350
>being upset about an inequality in society is circlejerk but quoting and using fake/wrong stats isn't.
kamratjoel
”Equality. Dad’s(sic) have no rights!!!” - shows gif of dad that has rights and a judge illustrating that point.
IFavoritePetsAndLadies
Not dissing her message, but for those not in the know shows like hers are "arbitration" and not a part of the American court system.
IFavoritePetsAndLadies
Though she was previously a judge in the courts.
Fuckweasel
She was. She was a judge in the Manhattan Family Court, a prosecutor in the same before that, and a corporate lawyer before that.
Sooooooooooooooooooo
THANKYOU.gif
Unverified
This should be a confession bear, but whatever. I'm giving up my rights to my child just to finally be done with this
Unverified
It's been 4 months since I requested a CS modification and nothing, 2 months I was unemployed unable to pay
Unverified
$1,300 for 1 child, yet when I request to see my child more than 2 hours a month it's a "civil" matter but god forbid if I can't pay
joeyjojosharknado
It's intolerable that children should be kept from their fathers because of the flaws in a broken legal system.
BlandNotBoring
Yes, the legal system can be slow and messed up. But your answer is to just give them away? WOW.
Equinox13
Well, if his choice is between crippling, excessive debt that he can't pay sending him to prison, which would likely enable the mother to 1/
Equinox13
prevent him having any access or rights to the child at all, or just giving up his rights to the child...it's not much of a choice. 2/2
Noob3rts
Judge Judy made a fuck ton of money.
0utrider
She's a smart woman with a kick-ass, no-holds-barred attitude, remarkably fair in most cases. Breath of fresh air.
moon2A
Like $900,000 per day...son of a bitch
highevolutionary
Fuck. You made me think of my imaginary kids with my imaginary ex. :( still very unfair and sad.
Icommentandpostmypets
While I like her, her show is such a sham. Had two friends go on there. Best friends irl. Terrible on screen.
tachikaze316
I remember reading that the producers don't care if your case is fake, so long as it's entertaining and you can keep the act going, 1/2
tachikaze316
you get the trip to LA, the nice hotel room, the appearance fee and whatever payment comes at the end of the case. 2/2
titaniumspine
The producers might not care if it's fake, but JJ will still sniff it out and make them look stupid if their story makes no sense.
Beezlebubble
My two friends went on Maury with some girl. Entire thing was a set up. Hilarious to watch.
Silverforte
We all kind of "know" these shows are bullshit but it's nice to hear proof. I know someone who was paid to be on Maury, script and all.
ssjalhazred
1 TV judges aren't actual judges anymore, either (they're working as third party binding arbitration) but people still think the set is an
HeyOP
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0437706/ http">0437706/">http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0437706/ http://www.providenceri.gov/municipal-court/contact-us/
ssjalhazred
2 actual courtroom.
glovelyday
That's "reality TV". Pretty much reality free.
Amythyst
There's a trend of blatant lies in advertising these days. "reality" TV. "Fair and balanced" news.
somanywonders987
The dispute is settled before the show. The show is literally just for effect.
BarfingMonkey
Awww man... I thought it was real. I really like her.
somanywonders987
She's a fine lady.
BarfingMonkey
So they got paid to be mean to each other?
disappointedunicorn
Shocking right?
Joelrassic
Where do I sign up?
DadddyWarlord
If I remember correctly. They paid those people who are against each other. Like there tickets. Plus Judy wasn't s real judge.
wormfood
She's an arbitrator, which is part of a legally binding alternative to court. The fakest part is the show pays all the penalties.
improbablypooping
No way. It’s a reality TV show that’s a sham?
SgtThunderfistMD
WithPride
Wouldn't anyone get mad in court?
Icommentandpostmypets
they acted like enemies, when they were just talking a week before how excited they were to be on the show....to each other.
Hustle4Lucifer
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noxmeter
What's the episode
Icommentandpostmypets
According to her, jj s21e87. She used to have a youtube link but it went down. I'll try looking.
Icommentandpostmypets
Oh! Found a court case pic! http://ultraimg.com/images/2016/12/28/V0UH.jpg
ArchPigeon
I second this question
flyingmonkeystick
I third it.
eion85
It's a TV show, not a courtroom.
K3lladoor
Is it me or is this conversation just going around in circles?
CyborgScribe
Jerking in circles really.
siler7
I'm setting up a Kickstarter to buy this poor gif a second frame. Who's with me?
overboard
this loops nicely into a very long lecture.
Kopar
I guess you could call it a circular argument
BlueSpaceLizard
That's not what iv'e been told
Prolyxe
…once-mighty wings, now dewy and fragile and new, as again the silken threads encased its...
SanchoLibre
*endless
SmartHasTheBrainsButStupidHasTheBalls
We don't know that yet. More research is needed. It has only been 8 hours.
RydWolf
♪ Never-ending leeecture, ah ah ah ahh ahh ahh ah ah ahhh ♪
TheDudzzly
And THAT will be stuck in my head for today, thankyouverymuch...
CausticSoda
It was already stuck in mine, after hearing it in the restaurant at dinner tonight. Why was it playing? Don't ask me!
PunjabiMacgyver
im still watching it and i find it more and more fascinating.
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
And some people still won't get it.
helicotrema
Yes it goes on and on my friend
Muhfynmann2
Charliehooooooooorse!!!!
Entartika
It helps that Judy Sheindlin isn’t a feminist.
0utrider
I would buy you a beer if I could.
BrockEffingSamson
"I don't know what feminism is, but here's my opinion anyway." -This Guy apparently
istealthepixelsfromreposts
Fact: Facts just slow you down
Sloppydrunkcatlady
Feminism is equality, and this is equality between the genders is it not? I mean not according to third wave Tumblr feminists, but w/e
jpparkenbone
Feminism isn't about equality. Feminists don't give a fuck about men.
JamieSmyth
I'm a feminist and I give a fuck about men
Sloppydrunkcatlady
Someone sounds a little bitter. And yes, the literal definition of feminism is about equality based on gender. I'm sorry if you've met
Sloppydrunkcatlady
2. shitty people who claim to be feminists. They're definitely out there.
Sloppydrunkcatlady
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/feminism
jpparkenbone
What it is and what it claims to be are not the same.
Sloppydrunkcatlady
People who claim to be feminists and people who actually are are not the same.
WithPride
Nothing is going to top this so to the front page it goes, it deserves it
Theactualvimple
It's been on fp tons of times, I'd argue the ones that aren't a pixely mess top this
Sooooooooooooooooooo
You do realize that this entire thing is scripted and there is nothing genuine or authentic about this exchange?
brookers
True, but really none of this matters and we're all going to die alone so why not find joy in something scripted?
omeradesyo0
I fucking hate what they did to ocelot in the new game! I mean in the third one he was this Badass but sometimes loser and funny but now he
brookers
Whaaat? Were we playin the same game? Ocelot was delightful mgsv. Somewhat underdeveloped but hey that's the 1/3 of a game we paid for!
omeradesyo0
Personally i didn't like all the good guy attitude he got. Anyhow the story itself and the cutscenes were near to none
brookers
When Kojima spent 95% of an "infinite" budget on a flaming whale that was onscreen for 10 seconds...yeah we didn't get much game.
omeradesyo0
is just snakes best freind and nothing els and thats total bullshit!
WithPride
I like what they did to him, people always wanted them to fight on the same side but he should have had more action.
KyloyRenkins
You play as venom snake, a clone of big boss. It makes perfect sense they're friends. Imo he's still awesome
Caldar
Also Ocelot is your buddy because he's spying on you for Big Boss. He even used some self hypnosis nonsense to believe you're the real deal.
KyloyRenkins
Haha damn, MGS lore is... entertaining to say the least.
Caldar
Not a clone but Big Boss' best soldier surgically altered to look like Big Boss and hypnotized to think they are Big Boss.
KyloyRenkins
Well yeah, that :p
DontReadMyBio
connorcat
You're pretty good!
zzztgot
KFBR392
DontReadMyBio
RideTheStimutacs
"Dads have no rights" (posts example of a dad having rights)
aesthesia1
When you are too dumb to properly post mra propaganda on your throwaway
towelsareweak350
tfw being upset about an inequality in society is MRA propaganda, but the quoting fake stats and posting shit infographs isn't
aesthesia1
Na friend. Propaganda is anything distributed with the active purpose of getting you to think a specific way regardless of reality. /1
aesthesia1
Doesnt have to be an infograph. Can be a catchphrase repeated over and over ("end white genocide") or the bombardment of/2
aesthesia1
Select images/content in media to distort your world view (what mra/mgtow/rp does on imgur), or changing words to represent a topic/3
stevema
i mean, at the end of the day what parental choice does a father get to make, that will be backed by the courts if the mother disagrees?
aesthesia1
Ah shit. When i said "legally none" i meant thats the amount of legal rights 1 parent has over the other based on sex
stevema
okay, so after conception(with consent and all that, and *even then* not for men) abortion, adoption, abandonment, and child support 1/2
stevema
all things mothers can decide to do pretty much freely(sans paperwork) but at each of those steps the guy has no say.
aesthesia1
Legally none. The states legally adhere to sex-blind "best interest" policies. BUT sunconscious prejudice has yet to catch up/1
aesthesia1
With legal progress. Courts actually used to legally favor the mothers. But typically, parents decide out of court anyway. And it still/2
aesthesia1
Happens that fathers generally dont seek more custody. 3/3
towelsareweak350
...in a fake court. Good one buddy.
resonantD
Well, what do the statistics have to say on the subject? You didn't even look, did you?
sorosfieldops
The statistics show that dads get custody if they want but sadly in many cases they don't want it so it all falls on the woman.
Lostchild12
My oldest fought for full custody. His ex GF; alcoholic, drug addict, rarely had a job. She got full custody, we got 3 days each week.
sorosfieldops
Yes not not all cases are gonna end up the way we want, life sucks :(
Hobbsrox
Doesnt change the fact that the man is treated more as bank account than a father in 75% of divorce cases
MmmmmmDonuts
Amen brother!
picklesandshit
Amen brother sing it
zerofivetwo
I pay 500 a month in support, mother blocks all communication with me, doesn't allow access and moves her across country. Nothing I can do.
myapologiesforsayingthat
Wish I could up vote this a few thousand times
Fuckoffgoogle
Aswell as only 20% of parental leave is taken by fathers in avarage. Many things have to change. Incl the view on gender norms.
saucesum
All my dad had to do was ask and the courts granted him full phys. Custody against my moms wishes and let him move 1000 miles away.
z0920108
Fiances crackhead aunt won custody of her child basically because she had ovaries. Possession, DWIs, arrests, didn't matter to the judge.
jayharrisbb6
I have custody of my son, people are shocked. Courts still won't go after his mother for child support. 8 years now
Nearlyburly
I have custody of my son, in a recent divorce. So far I've gotten two small checks, all that she has to pay. I hope they continue.
jayharrisbb6
I've never seen a dime, but I don't see her, so it equals out. Grats on your custody!
Nearlyburly
Thanks. You too.
Bernifal
Ironic isn’t it, feminism exists as a drive to make women more independent, yet men who oppose the concept often are first to complain that
treadwords
Yes it is ironic how feminists supposedly detest gender roles but insist the father should always pay alimony.
BreadyStinellis
They dont. 1. Alimony isn't child support. 2. Whoever earns more pays alimony, that's often men but is changing more and more.
Bernifal
Women aren’t independent enough.
matamor
No one fights for this, weomens want to be independent but still keep all these rights, haven't seen anyone complaing about this.
BreadyStinellis
That's because there are 2 sides to this argument and imgur only has one represented. Go to ansite that's majority 30-40yr old females.
BreadyStinellis
You'll hear the shit they put up with too.
malbec
Wouldn’t it be great if alimony recipients were required to show receipts for what funds were spent on?
Shohanna
Alimony isn't child support so you don't need receipts.
Shohanna
And I did show receipts it didn't matter I still had to pay for both the girls braces at 10k K? He paid nothing. And he made 110k yr
WittyCleverUsername
Alimony and child support are two different things
malbec
I meant to include child support as well xD
Unverified
Alimony shouldn't even be a thing
WilliamShatinher
It's bizarre.
CyborgScribe
I guess this is a place where California is doing better than average. Having seen a few divorces here its generally whoever makes more...
CyborgScribe
...male or female, who ends up paying. I don't know if this is a recent development or not, however.
BreadyStinellis
It's not. It's just a recent development that many women make more than their spouses.
stevenwonder
bcuz feminism
Shohanna
No because asshat MEN who control the court believe women should be in home taking care of the kids and making them a SANDWICH! We cant' win
tegfdd77
Bcuz the peoples be sexing foolishly. They never learn, it seems.
imdonewithpickingusernames
Because inequality. Feminism advocates for the equal treatment of both parties. Feminazis are a different case entirely.
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
Except that women are systemically more powerful than men by a large margin, and only non-feminists seem to care about that.
BreadyStinellis
Ha! Find me sauce on that claim please. And no, an MRA website won't cut it. They're just the male equivalent of "feminazis".
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_States
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
It's the same data, or is data misogynistic now?
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/03/28/look-how-women-outnumber-men-college-campuses-nationwide/YROqwfCPSlKPtSMAzpWloK/story.html
star1022
Hahaha except my dad never paid shit and mom worked two jobs. Fuck all y'all and deadbeat fathers crying a river that they have to pay.
Alexaididntsayyourfknname
Is your name Jamal?
GoodDadJokes
Somebody has daddy issues
Frejanna
I think they could use a good dad joke or two
GoodDadJokes
Wanna hear a joke about shovels? It's gonna be ground breaking
bubbasparxx
I don't think it's having to pay that's the issue, it's then still being treated like a second class citizen meaning there's never equality
ClassyReposts
They are talking about deadbeat mothers not having to cry a river because they don't have to pay because injustice.
JupitersWitch
Not being ordered to pay child support doesn't make them deadbeat mothers and I think women know a thing or two about injustice.
ClassyReposts
You didn't read that right. "Deadbeat mothers who don't have to pay", not "mothers who don't have to pay are deadbeats".
JupitersWitch
Deadbeat is a person who doesn't pay child support that is ordered. If they don't pay, they can be taken to court.
Butane9000
And the marriage rate is dropping because of it.
BreadyStinellis
Marriage rate is dropping for many reasons. One of them being equality. I was hoping equality would raise us all up, in reality it just seem
BreadyStinellis
To have brought white men down a bit instead. Still equality, just not quite in the right direction.
warlockaflocka
Kek
GoodDadJokes
That's where I'm at. $650 a month in child support and $150 a month for insurance. And I only get her 1st, 3rd, and 5th weekends...
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sakkehattu
Saw your username and expected something funny, but instead I just got hit with feels. Just hang in there mate!
ZeusStrasburg
So man up and petition to have the kids half the time. You pay more because you aren’t pulling your weight custody-wise.
DaddyDanny
My girlfriends uncle has to pay child support for both of his kids with 2 women and he has them 50% of the time. He has to pay for them (1)
DaddyDanny
when he has them at his house, and he has to pay for them when they're at their mothers' houses. Makes absolutely no sense to me. (2)
BewareOfTheDropBear
If he earns more than she does then it does make sense. He is giving money to pay for things for the children.
Pahqman
- says someone who clearly isn't in a similar situation
DrSparken
That's ... how it's supposed to work. You're paying to support the kid. You would pay less if you see them more. It's not a payment to 1/
DrSparken
get to see them, it's a payment *for them*. 2/2
MyLittleBorg
Yeah that's absolute garbage. My Dad pays child support for my half sisters. He gets them 50% of the time. My Step Mom? She pays nothing
MyLittleBorg
She's also a nurse who makes more than him. So please tell me more about how it's supposed to work that way
Pahqman
Pay more and you get NO say I how much you see your child... super fair deal there...
DrSparken
It's for the child. Not you.
TippLite
My state strives for 50/50 unless there is clear signs of abuse. Custody case, dad made 75-100 flase CPS claims, made statements proven 1/?
TippLite
to be false, didn't follow the temporary order, all during a 3 year custody battle. Everyone involved said most likely outcome is 50/50 2/?
TippLite
Guy abused the mother while they were together, convicted, police reports, multiple felon. In the end we got 70/30 on the mother's side 3/?
TippLite
He pays $50/month in child support and complains about it every chance he gets. 4/4
TostiBuilder
I feel very sorry for fathers who have to go trough this, a father figure is very important for a child they are not walking wallets.
VanessaNelson
Fuuuuuck you, from the one getting screwed in the divorce that has a vagina.
damien309
It did say 75% of cases.
DrSparken
More than 80% are settled out of court. The father doesn't fight.
VanessaNelson
p.s. My dad got custody of his 3 girls in 1981, so times have been changing, stereotypes sure do linger though, don't they?
Flyndaran
My GF's father had to pay her mom child support even though she lived with him. The state then refunded each check minus processing fee.
VanessaNelson
The United States Army, when my daughter's father joined, called to ask "If he starts paying now, how about we forget the 10 grand he owes?"
KlingonsAreSexyLLAP
Right there with ya.
VanessaNelson
I don't want him to die, but I want something bad to happen that sounds preposterous, Whats your go to? Wishing syphilis on him got boring
KlingonsAreSexyLLAP
I got to watch him do it to himself. The truth came out. Took awhile. He's jobless, living w/his parents&a drunk. Patience&karma
VanessaNelson
I don't know if I want to bring karma into this.....heh
TheLemic98
Sooo does anybody have a link to any data on this? just wondering what the real percentage is
lethaldoobie
ive been getting the feeling things are turning around in last few years...prolly will take anotherdecade for equality but we will get there
ssolomonhu
No it's gotten worse. Whole sjw and Marxist left is getting stronger. Lenin is jumping in his grave
lethaldoobie
nah...theyve been eating themselves over the last two years
PatticusMaximus
As a divorce attorney in Washington... depends on the judge and progress is minuscule. Horribly sad really.
HowImetyourmumma
Who is this Anotherdecade you speak of? And where can we find him?
TrueNorthernLights
They are, thank goodness
DelumStudios
Amen.
HateMeFuckYou
Ranger that.
STGxDante
Still depends on the one doing the sentencing and they can be a young hip millennial or a crotchety old man who believes in every stereotype
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
I'm equally scared of the young hip millennial who believes in the newer stereotypes that are based on counter-intuitive idealism.
STGxDante
True that
dzortizi
Modern feminism wont allow. In canada, theyve ostensibly created debters prison (for fathers and divorcees) again with their divorce law.
CreateYourOwnNormality
See, i don't get this. North America is the most conservative, Christian values, traditional area in the world. Young people do not vote [1]
CreateYourOwnNormality
old people vote in droves. Your left wing is centrist, and your right wing is evangelical, batshit crazy right-wing, to international [2]
CreateYourOwnNormality
Have a look at US elections, 20% of rep's are female. Even if ALL of them are raving men-haters, they have zero control, no? [4]
CreateYourOwnNormality
State isn't helping, blame Feminism or some shit, they'll lap it up. Now, go spend 100k on a statue or something' [6]
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
In before the "real feminists don't want that, they want men to have equal parental rights" bullshit.
lordofthedice
And by saying things like this, you give feminists who don't want equality more legitimacy and completely ignore the fact that there are >
lordofthedice
feminists who do want equality.
CreateYourOwnNormality
do with paying for your kid. So it looks and says 'He's got 40k, she's got 20k - he pays more'. ... But 50% custody? ... Fuck you, the [6]
CreateYourOwnNormality
Here's what i think. Costs about 220k to raise a kid to 18 in US. Either Dad or Mom pays, or the State does. The State wants fuck all to [5]
CreateYourOwnNormality
standards. So, how do you square that with 'Anti-Men Feminists have all got elected and changed the laws to discriminate against men? [3]
pleaseconsiderthatImightbejoking
It's two different generations of judges who are are in agreement theat men shouldn't raise children.
CreateYourOwnNormality
2/3rds US Judges are men. Now, stats on giving custody to women aren't simple, because so many cases are uncontested by fathers, but if the
Shohanna
Exactly, it's not the "feminists" doing this, it's the sexist men in charge who think the woman needs to take care of the kids.
BreadyStinellis
CreateYourOwnNormality
They're also very keen to ensure that only the parents pay for anything, whoever has the $. Hell, even adoption is a for-profit business.
d0o0o0d
One of my hopes is that gay marriage will force judges to address custody situations with two parents who are the same gender.
nowaythisnameisavailable
Good point. What if the parental gender was concealed. Testimony could be done IN DARKNESS! No pronouns. Judge purely on the statements.
lethaldoobie
thatd be pretty awesome actually
nowaythisnameisavailable
Right? No other adversarial process pits the genders against each other like child custody does. Gender biases are inherent and unavoidable.
cscottdostuff
My friend was treated more like a bank acct than dad in his divorce... not by the judge. By his ex. Fucking cunt. He makes 5k more per year-
cscottdostuff
than her working twice as much and she's taking 8k from him per year. He gets the kids 10 days a month.
ZeusStrasburg
If he stepped up and took the kid half the time, he’d pay a lot less.
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ZeusStrasburg
Just someone speaking from experience in the matter.
DrSparken
Kids cost a lot more than 3k a year. Not at all apparent that this would be unfair.
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
But he has the kids 1/3rd of the time, and she works, too.
DrSparken
So he has the kids less and therefore is paying for less of the things they need ... As said, still not apparent that it's unfair. The 1/
milofrank2
I fought very hard to keep my daughter. She is loved and happy.
RideTheStimutacs
Custody lawyer friend of mine says dads often don't document incidents/behavior as meticulously, and more commonly lose temper over custody.
RideTheStimutacs
So if you want custody, document everything in a divorce situation, and be extremely patient.
xirbitzy
And holy hell the social stigma if a man is the recipient of child support is ridiculous.
LoudBirb
This idea that men have to be providers and can't be good caretakers is a big part of what feminists call "toxic masculinity". It's...
LoudBirb
Called "toxic masculinity" because it's a set of masculine stereotype that men are socially expected to adhere to that hurt both men and...
LoudBirb
Women. Certain societal expectations of behavior already blow, but they blow more when judges (the legal system) systemically enforce them.
warlockaflocka
Hey you just said man bad. Man not bad. Man good. Sjw bad.
sluglie
it is amazing, i post something reflecting this opinion and get downvoted to hell
sluglie
lol, see
atimewizard
Not always. My parents divorced in 2002 and in order to have custody of me, my mother had to take on all of their debt and declarebankruptcy
atimewizard
I wanted to live with my mom 'full time' and my dad had my brother. My mom suffered a lot financially just because I wanted to be with her.
DrSparken
This is actually the more usual case. If the father fights he is far more likely to get majority or total custody, and the mother is 1/
DrSparken
usually screwed over by conditions. It's only "usually" the mother in out of court settlements, which are the majority. 2/2
Pahqman
If a father fights he's more likely to get full custody? What have you been smoking?
Trielumphant
Likewise in at least 75% of marriages
Alpacalypsenow
Took a long legal battle, but my brother in law got full custody of my nephew when he and his wife split.
Irishda
75% of divorce cases are settled. The father doesn't want them
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
Option 1: Devote 1/2 your life and finances to seeing your kids 1/15th of their lives. Option 2: Have a life and try to start again.
BreadyStinellis
Option 1 isn't correct. Most men who fight get at least 50/50.
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
Source.
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
But what would I know, I got full custody, so I must be a biased bigot or something.
WhatIsUpMyFriends
so are you option 1 or 2
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
I was presented with those options and wrote my own case. Not many people have that option. The courts as biased as fuck...
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
And as I said, I have full custody.
sakkehattu
When your options are: mother gets full custody or you get to see the kid once every blue moon, you're not left with much of a choice.
DrSparken
If the father fights he is more likely to get total custody than the mother is to get majority, even if he's clearly unfit due to abuse.
warlockaflocka
Idk why you are getting down voted. There is plenty of data to back up what you are saying
DrSparken
Imgur doesn't like these facts.
JupitersWitch
Men are providers and women carry babies. It's not like society hasn't made that abundantly clear for centuries. You want that to change? 1/
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
Careful, there are certain people who consider what you just said to be hate speech, and they have a whole lot more legal power than you.
JupitersWitch
2/ Then society has to change how it perceives male and female roles.
Zyrixion
We've done a pretty good job of getting along down that road in the last couple decades, you know.
JupitersWitch
And why stop at that? Men are still teased for being nurses. Women still aren't fully in Infantry platoons. We have a long way to go.
MrGoodCat5
I agree. We can't expect gender roles to be different in a custody battle than they are before the divorce. Most families, women are the
MrGoodCat5
Primary caregiver. This needs to change and until it does custody battles will still result in most moms getting custody.
DeDeMegaDoDo
Question and not being funny. In today's transgender world, in a woman to woman(trans to trans) marriage who gets the child if each had one?
nonameshapeschwifter
Foster parents. Not being a troll. I feel that’s what the courts would do.
Shohanna
I agree with @nonameshapeschwifter, the courts don't recognize T, they are "crazy" and I wouldn't be surprised to see CFS take them away.
venserpw
i'm no scientist but i'm pretty sure we can't give a trans woman a uterus to give birth with. we can barely make passable vaginas
EnderMoth
Dec 2017. Child developed in transplanted uterus. Did need C-section though, but that's common even for natural uteruses.
BreadyStinellis
I think you're either using the word trans wrong or youre asking about one marriagr in particular as there can't be many trans women married
BreadyStinellis
To eachother. Do you mean lesbians?
DeDeMegaDoDo
I could be using trans wrong. Honestly dont know what to call it. Lesbian or 2 women trying to be men.
BreadyStinellis
Well biological women who are transitioning to becoming men are trans. 2 women in a relationship are lesbians, neither 1 is a man at all.
DoYouEvenCareAboutPeople
Women regarded as better caregivers is sexism too.
Sooooooooooooooooooo
It's a part of patriarchy actually. Most feminists agree with this point, patriarchal culture hurts men as well as women in devaluing care.
LP1988
Which is another way patriarchy theory sounds like BS.
treadwords
That's strange - I don't see many feminists bemoaning how men are the ones who financially suffer from a divorce.
ccyanide0
Probably because that isn't true. Women often walk away from divorce at a loss of money and standard of living. Hence why they can be 1/2
ccyanide0
Reluctant to leave abusive or toxic relationships.
treadwords
You have it completely ass backwards, sweetheart.
towelsareweak350
And do we live in a patriarchy?
DoYouEvenCareAboutPeople
Feminist here, can substantiate that claim.
LetsGetMochs
What was the verdict?
leabelle
They consulted Solomon and split the baby in half.
CulturalAppropriator
Judgment for the plaintiff. Clack clack clack clackity clack clack clack clack clack clackity clack clack clack clackity clackity clack.
Imthedude91
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c3/Bologna_lunch_meat_style_sausage.JPG/220px-Bologna_lunch_meat_style_sausage.JPG
CreateYourOwnNormality
This bit was nothing to do with custody. 'Taking the baby' was about him picking baby up and them both moving away from an argument.
Individualsocksinthewashingmachine
Death
JTechnopotheosis
now i want to see judge judy in the judge dredd universe
nouseforaheart
hence the expression "judge judy and executioner"
Individualsocksinthewashingmachine
campariIsNotOnlyADrink
Cake. But cake was out, so it went death anyway.
Sooooooooooooooooooo
I don't know, check the TV ratings. It's a scripted show, not a really instance of the legal process.
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Sooooooooooooooooooo
That's the verdict, were people watching.
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Sooooooooooooooooooo
You are the one who can't take a joke. Calm down seriously. This conversation is as real as the TV show it refers to,