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At this point in time, we know enough about vaccines to know that they do not, in fact, cause autism or any other sort of condition. Mandatory vaccines could save lives like the boy described in the facebook post. There is no reason NOT to.
This is why I detest antivax sources like Infowars. Children like the one in the picture have died due to parents listening to sourcs like this.
I really do hope this facebook post isn't serious. Stuff like this breaks my heart.
Aranyszin
I'm torn. On the one hand, how terrible that children died due to such ignorance. On the other, these people should not reproduce.
Sevulturus
Betcha these are a troll
Furryboots
I really think that not getting children immunised should actually be a criminal offence.
DeepFriedTamales
Only thing my state Mississippi is first in that I'm truly proud, 99% vaccination rate because its mandatory for school.
FFFFFFFANNNY
I am pretty sure that the Catholic schools and Ontario, Canada it is also mandatory.
RatchetTheWusky
Vax doesn't hurt people. It puts a dead virus into the body and allows the body to experiment on it and such. Know your enemy. Not harmful.
yesiamaphysicist
That's an interesting way of describing the immune system...
enderite
She can't change her mind now. Then she would have to admit to herself that she had a hand in her son's death.
KeeleonOhms
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choice-supportive_bias
ArdentSlacker
I'd be fine with locking her in a room with nothing but reminders that she killed her child by refusing to learn basic science. Therapy 1+
ArdentSlacker
2/2 cannot begin without her admitting this. Or she'll just try to kill again.
suicideclintonbullets
Not saying the vaccines are 100%, but would you rather die from some bs while young, or would you rather die later? I'll take the ladder.
frosty147
I'm well aware that vaccination is the correct (and only) choice, but just to play devil's advocate, there must be some cases where it 1/
frosty147
causes some severe adverse reactions, right? We should be honest about that or you're just confirming the paranoia. 2/2
yesiamaphysicist
Some people have allergies or medical issues that prevent them from being vaccinated. No one is calling for them to be vaccinated.
stewartm0205
Just allow the anti-vaxxers to thin their herd. These will be the same people that will keeps us from stopping the asteroid.
yesiamaphysicist
Children shouldn't suffer and die because their parents are idiots/assholes. Sort of the reason we have child protective services.
WhyCanINotHaveBeatlesHairMom
Long live natural selection.
SalmonSushee
It's be fine if there wasn't an innocent child killed in the process.
JamesAlegria
Just like the post I saw about vegan parents giving their 6 week old a vegan diet and the boy died weighing like 3-4 pounds. It's upsetting.
0100000101001101
What is a vegan diet for a 6 week old? They should be on breast milk or formula until 6 months!
sexconker
It's a troll post.
a55mu11e7
my first reaction was to check the messages...also don't stick your dick in crazy
MountainsGandalf
You can't vaccinate an infant for whooping. Vaccines can and do cause permanent damage to some immune systems. But yes she is stupid.
Kijips
I mean it's good to bring up issues like this but this Facebook post is clearly fake.
AnnaKareninanananananaBatman
Not that I like to give anti-vaxxers any break at all, but her baby was too young for the pertussis vaccine. She prob didn't get hers tho.
SoDamEvil
I read this as whoopee cushion.. was really confused for a second.
theoneprevouslyknownas
I feel like this isn't a real post, but who knows. Stupidity knows no bounds!
Buglessdr013
This particular post could be fake - but sadly I know people way too many that have taken an anti-Vaxxer stance
fullsheet
I read about parents like these all the time.
randomsonglyric
You must live in a nice area where you don't have to encounter people that are actually that stupid. I am jealous
theoneprevouslyknownas
Haha, it's true. Haven't run into any anti-vaxers (or even many extremely religious/culty) people here in NS.
abetteridiot
My sister, otherwise intelligent, is even convinced that vaccinated kids are the ones spreading the illnesses. She "did her research". Yeah.
Pawnderlust
MCClapYourHandz
It's real. It's on the Anti Vaccination Australia Facebook page.
theoneprevouslyknownas
That level of ignorance should be criminal.
DeimosBarret
I'm with you. This has to be satire.
LloydMadel
Yup, "Edit:" gives it away.
MichaelDello
Scientist active on social media here. I see shit like this all the time. I've been told to die for promoting science (truth).
Kodaxmax
Dude we have people in first world countries working for "god"
Sumpte
I'm sure people like this exist. But this specific post is obviously fake, people don't word things to make such obvious own-goals.
fullsheet
Just as bad are parents who want to rely on prayer/faith healers. Un fucking believable.
SaintLuciferVonAllah
We currently have a measles outbreak due to lowering in vaccination rate.Hundreds of cases+a few deaths.That1may be fake.The crises is real
Truntelunte
Couldn't believe it either. Checked out just 1 anti vaccine group on Facebook and am chocked to say, that they're beyond ignorant & crazy!
fairlyinappropriateresponse
have a look at the forums online, it's fun in that way that makes your teeth fall out
kiwiflavored
I'm not saying that they aren't this crazy (they are), but groups like that are often infiltrated by trolls who poke satirical fun at them
KeeleonOhms
Keep in mind its at LEAST half trolls when you read that stuff.
CoolSnackChris
chocked
discardedusername
There are vegan parents that tried feeding their baby apple juice and soy milk instead of formula or.... breast milk, the most natural fuck
discardedusername
-ing choice, but no, they thought apple juice and soy milk was better...... they are happily in jail, the baby however.....
discardedusername
So yes, people are that ignorant. And i agree with willful ignorance, real research would show that if that was their stupid choice to
discardedusername
Raise a baby vegan then they would HAVE to breast feed, and so the baby had all the nutrition they needed the mom would have to also take vi
discardedusername
Vitamins and all kinds of crap, but the baby would need breast milk, period. Unless there's a vegan formula now...... idiots
IndigoWendigo
"I prefer to watch my son die breaking his lungs from coughing so hard, to admitting I might be wrong!"
Riese89
I can only hope he divorced his stupid ass wife and or at least stopped breeding with her.
RealBlitzComet
Hopefully both
TheMonsterWithinYou
She should be charged with fucking murder because her stupidity got her kid killed
Gayforbae
Involuntary manslaughter, but still
MicrowaveSafe
Involuntary my ass.
Gayforbae
It's involuntary in that there was no direct intent to kill.
CandyVanMan
This is fake, the fb account that posted this had 1 friend and was just a few hours old.
AVoiceOfReason
Source?
Shitposter2017
I reallt hope so.
Shitposter2017
*really
AreWeNotDoingPhrasingNow
Honestly, I'm just sad for everyone here
ChampyPants
You can't vaccinate a 1 month old, they're too young.
MermaidMonkey
You can't, which is why moms are encouraged to update their TDAP shot in the 3rd trimester; it covers the baby until they are old enough.
ChampyPants
Ah ok. I was going to say this makes no sense. But thank you, I'm not a parent so I don't know how this works!
JaelTentpeg
https://www.cdc.gov/features/tdap-in-pregnancy/index.html Sending a link bc I found it fascinating :)
ChampyPants
Thanks!
melveys
Mom's dtap only gives some antibodies for a short time. Baby can still catch pertussis from public areas or unvaccinated carriers.
plainoldfool
Not just moms. And one who will handle the baby. I'm a dad and had two TDAP vaccinations.
MermaidMonkey
Dad getting a TDAP does not inoculate the baby, that's why I brought up mom getting poked. Everyone around babies should update their TDAP.
plainoldfool
Dad getting TDAP doesn't inoculate baby but helps prevent dad of being a carrier for the Pertussis virus.
MermaidMonkey
Yes, I know that. I'm a mom ;) my point was, if the lady in the story had a updated TDAP shot 3rd trimester baby would have had a chance.
JonathanSwiftProbablyInventedBabybackRibs
Even so, Mom getting a booster doesn't guarantee that enough immunity will cover the baby for those first few months.
melveys
Babies aren't inoculated by mom. They just get some short term antibodies.
ChampyPants
Everyone should get a booster every ten years. Whooping cough sucks. I was vaccinated but I still got it and it was awful.
BlueKarat
But vaccines eradicate sickness /s
ChampyPants
I was in an area that had an ongoing outbreak because of people who wouldn't vaccinate.
CelticmoonKate
I may have had it (dr never figured out if it was pneumonia or WC. or both, because that is apparently a thing) and it was awful. (1/)
CelticmoonKate
Plus I had a fear I had given it to my cousins, who were vaccinated (I was too) but I was still their primary carer that summer. (2/)
MisterOp
Are there antivaxx movements outside of the Americas? Is there a similar thing in Europe, or are we just all stupid?
NeonSkylite
I remember reading from an Italian there's a community there, but much smaller than the freedomlanders' community.
ArandomDane
We have some in Denmark. Mostly among the Somalian community, but education is ensuring that it is not hereditary.
MechaNinja
http://www.howdovaccinescauseautism.com
SilusCrow
Though I was expecting what that page had to say, I still found it amusing. +1
MechaNinja
I definitely click through every time I post it as a comment.
LookingOutAtTheDoomedEarthSheBreathedaSighAsEverythingHadBecome
This really should try to explore where the misconception came from, why its wrong, and discuss real environmental causes of disease.
LookingOutAtTheDoomedEarthSheBreathedaSighAsEverythingHadBecome
That is if the page has to exist at all. https://www.cdc.gov/biomonitoring/Mercury_FactSheet.html Pay attention to organic vs non-organic
MechaNinja
I mean, it shouldn't have to exist, but I daresay it does.
LookingOutAtTheDoomedEarthSheBreathedaSighAsEverythingHadBecome
I also say it exists... But relative to the myth it hopes to dismisses, its only doing half the work it should. Feel me?
MechaNinja
Does need to. And it has a link to a relevant website. Not sure what all you want from the guy.
haveanothergif
About that beer I owed ya
Sweetcandykitten
The thing is that a 1 month old can't be vaccinated, they are protected by the herd immunity until about 6 months old I believe.
uhhhm4zing
There are 2 and 4 month vaccinations...but thank you for bringing up herd immunity. Too often it's pushed to the way side...(1/2)
uhhhm4zing
(2/2) "why are you worried, your kid is vaccinated!" ...vaccination does not necessarily guarantee 100% immunity.
Sweetcandykitten
I have a kid myself, he's 8 so I couldn't remember when he got his first vax but I know that herd immunity is what helps keep my kid healthy
Sweetcandykitten
So, yeah. It's a thing but because of asshats like these women, my kid could get whooping cough even though he's vaccinated. makes me mad.
thdudedude
I get that antivaxers are wrong, but mocking them isnt going to change their minds.
thdudedude
Or turning it into a witch hunt.
yesiamaphysicist
The ridicule isn't meant to change their minds, it's meant to keep others from joining them.
naytorin
Neither does actual science. These people are Inquisition level hard-headed.
thdudedude
Yeah, this doesn't help either. Its like you don't want them to change. Or is it just easier making the problem worse.
hearthstoneaccount3
If you make their lives worse to the point they cannot live their lives without complying then the problem is solved is it not?
naytorin
People better than I have tried. The only thing that actually seems to change their minds is when their children get sick. And not always.
Shitposter2017
I'm not mocking them. I'm calling out antivax news sources, but not individual people.
ArandomDane
(1/2) Please do so with the right facts. The risk of this vaccine is major brain damage 1:300000. A risk worth taking but a risk. Ignoring
thdudedude
I wouldnt call Facebook a news source
Shitposter2017
I mentioned Infowars in the description.
ArandomDane
(2/2) the risks makes antivaxxer out of people that learn of them first, at first hand.
ExiledCanuck
As an RN these types of attitudes baffle me. So much ignorance.
Misfire5150
Recently had to get CPS involved with a family that was allowing their son to die because they didn't understand how a mediport works. 1/2
Misfire5150
They refused the procedure multiple times even though the doc said "it's this or death". I just don't get it...
ExiledCanuck
I believe in people's right to choose or refuse care. Such as transfusions. But a mediport? That's just dumb.
Misfire5150
As an adult, yes. Refuse away, idc. Let yourself die if that's what you want. But this kid was toddler age. Can't exactly ask the kid.
AnnaKareninanananananaBatman
Can I get your opinion on other RNs that are against vaccination? That has always baffled me.
ExiledCanuck
I don't know too many who are against vaccines tbh. Some won't get flu shots, but that's about it.
Flyndaran
Lots of doctors are morbidly obese chain smokers. Many are addicted to drugs. Knowledge and even skill don't vaccinate against idiocy. ;)
MagicalScientist
There's also "do as I say not as I do" where they might be fully aware they shouldn't do some of that shit.
Flyndaran
It's easier to see fault in others than ourselves.
DoakMD
Yeah it would have made him worse. You're right. Worse than being dead. Yeah.
Bot17629A98001
It's just funny how people like this will embrace certain types of science but not vaccines. Odd.
PartiallyShavedSasquatch
In his belly you will find a new definition of pain and suffering as you are slowly digested for 1,000 years
Kazew
Well he could have been expelled
TheRealPurpleDrink
Expelled!
TimurKl
She probably meant vax would make him die faster. She is stupid either way tho
DarrowJ
It's such bullshit too. "Vaccines for deadly diseases cause autism!" So in you're messed up head, living with autism is worse than DEATH.
DarrowJ
And yeah, I messed up my your's and you're's.
Strongharbour432
He'd have to live with her as a mother
w1n5t0ns
There are absolutely some medical conditions that i think are worse than death, autism doesn't seem like one of them though.
tg2222222
Some would argue being alive is being worse than death. I doubt these kids would agree.
IronicUsername
She's obviously wrong, of course, but she likely means it would have hastened his death or made his condition worse while alive.
RandoWis
Children who have been vaccinated suffer the horrifying death of old age
laddercrash
You never know, what if his immortal soul became autistic?
connorcat
She's right: being raised by her. Sometimes death is better.
pretendthisisaclevername
Are you Dr. Doak? I'm sorry for all the times I shot you or didn't protect you
ITalkAboutGoats
To be fair, he would have died regardless, you don't get that shot until 2 months old, and requires 5 for total immunity.
UpvoteTotem
Well, if the older sister did hers on time that probably would have helped him out don't you think?
QuentinD
I would assume the mother hadn't received her 3rd trimester vaccination, which would have provided a degree of protection for the infant.
SigynRose
Even if vaccines caused autism, how is autism worse than death?
Kodaxmax
That is a very legthy debate. Essentially life of extreme hardships or a chance at a different existence/non existance.
AlissaStuart
Praise this reply!
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CirclejerqueDuSoleil
Except some people actually can't get vaccines due to other conditions or even allergies, and they're put in danger by low herd immunity.
telibani
Because I don't want my friend who was born a preemie who has immune system problems because of it to die 'cause of these fuckers. Asshole.
bradleylibralesso11
Not only that. These virus and bacteria have more of a chance to mutate and affect vaccinated people if not everyone is vaccinated
HEXADECIMAL
Didnt know that, sry Ill delete.
SlickerThanNick
have you tried living? its not always sunshine and rainbows. at least with death, there's certainty.
Kodaxmax
Have you tried dying
arbsbuhpuh
Not necessarily, though. There are tons of opinions on what happens after death, but it's by no means certain.
BearForceTwo
to be fair he would have had to live with a bitch like her so it would have, arguably, been worse than death.
bigsisbeast
The kid's dead, dude.
Kodaxmax
Because a bitch refused him proper medical care.
SwaghettiYologneseWithMemeballs
Got any other sharp observations for us?
BearForceTwo
and some of us deal with tragedy with dark humor so we don't blow our own brains out. like that kid would have done if he had lived with her
bigsisbeast
I get it, and humor is a great tool for diffusing pain, but that doesn't mean joking about dead kids isn't fucked up.
Eli93
That's pretty much the definition of dark humor... i mean we make jokes about 9/11 and the holocaust - it's better to laugh than to forget
BarryDeKokiner
You're my kind of person.
applesforjuice
Yeah I never knew I dealt with it that way until I was watching someone die on the street and made a joke
TwoBitFortuneTeller
A theory goes that humans evolved humour as a way of dealing with negative emotions and situations.
TimeKeepsOnMoving
Worse than death? Double-death?
ISayFuckAllTheTime
Married.
PartiallyShavedSasquatch
Actually you're thinking of super death. He rides a Harley and carries a jar of marmalade that makes you commit suicide.
spankatorium
Being an anti-vaxxer.
ButIamvoiceless
A fate WORSE than a fate worse than death? That's pretty bad.
definitelynotaseagull
Megadeath.
Yosseriandruid
\m/
Mistruths
That *is* worse.
Orzbek
I dunno... they DID do the theme to Duke Nuke 'em...
Mistruths
That's megadeth, not megadeath
TheGreatYellowKing
MegaDeth*
BrockfuckingSamson
Death squared
crucifiedpotato
Which is life!
AngryFoodTerror
Death cubed
Grenther
sqrt(-1) Death, I mean can you imagine that?
dickable
Two double deaths. Death squared.
boxesoftacos
Death²
TemporalOnline
Exiled.
abeu
extra-concentrated death
ilikebigbuttsandcannotlie123
Parents who refuse vaccines should be introduced to all of the diseases to know what it feels like.
PokoOnoandtheJamJams
Possibly even triple death.
GnomeTalmbout
Willful ignorance is an amazing thing. They should be charged with child neglect.
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Kairamek
Manslaughter. Neglectful homicide. Depends on your state.
CirB
Luckily some places are starting to do exactly this.
Blango27
This.. whole situation is fucked
Swunt
actually she should be charged with murder.
shermanmernmeyer
I'd bet when he got sick she tried to use holistic bullshit (0.0001% dilution of regular bullshit!) rather than use a real doc & medicine.
thecallcamefrominsidethehouse
Another term for it is "cultivated ignorance".
kadaeux
Not child neglect. Manslaughter minimum.
veritas1980
involuntary manslaughter would be better.
Justapartofyourimagination
Our world is ran on willful ignorance....
TouchThaFishyyy
And to a large extent cognitive dissonance.
Reviire
That's probably a bit light, considering the kid is dead.
ChickenFingersYT
https://news.vice.com/article/these-anti-vaccination-parents-are-on-trial-for-their-sons-death
BoredZeroG
No. Murder. 1st Degree.
ISayFuckAllTheTime
Negligent homicide
JonnyBLions
At the very least manslaughter.
CaptainHanderpants
I would think negligent homicide would be warranted.
SayStuff
Same thing with childhood obesity.
bwh5369
I wouldn't take it that far, you're basically making it mandatory at that point.
AccountCreatedToUpdogVotes
Bingo. It should be.
Jonahthewhale
Dude what?
Fuzzlebutt
Thats like saying denying a construction worker his hard hat on a site isn't neglect. Sure the hard hat may potentially not prevent 1/
Fuzzlebutt
1/ 100% of the damage, or he may have a neck condition that makes the hard hat not work properly. But they still would greatly reduce 2/
Fuzzlebutt
2/ the risk of a caved in fucking skull.
jaminjimmyjames
If the US provided universal healthcare, then I would absolutely agree.
MrJane12
There are some people that have. It's beginning to turn around, which is good.
PmMeLeonaPorn
That's a tough one, because you can also argue that the diet you feed your child can determine their health, should that be monitored too?
Tshern
In cases where the child is morbidly obese, YES.
PmMeLeonaPorn
and in the 99% of cases that it's not?
Gehirnspaghetti
Then it should not. It's not as much of a difference how you eat exactly as long as it's within parameters. Also: WTF Dat username
PmMeLeonaPorn
it wasn't taken and it's impossible to identify me with it?
AquaCrusher
She should be murdered.
AquaCrusher
AND I TOOK MY PILLS TODAY FK YOUR @COUCH
Whwat
IF it werent a fake post to get imgur points.
RoboCoonie
So you don't believe that the idiocy exists?
Kamuflars
Our kindergarten does not allow kids thst are not vaxinated.. which is a result og neglect lile this.
theoneprevouslyknownas
Did they need to see the doctors records? I wish places here are were strict, because they just let the parents fill out dates on a sheet. 1
theoneprevouslyknownas
That was preschool; the actual school didn't even ask!
Kamuflars
Over here.. we have vaxination cards distributed from the healthcare system. All have them, kids and adults.
Koshunae
None of my schools would let anyone admit unless they had vax and shot records. The problem mainly lies in home schooled.
Koshunae
These parents also generally believe theyre smarter and more efficient than the school system, which isnt hard to do, but they are not.
Fn0rd
What about: Voluntary manslaughter, or straight up first degree murder. Just because you're a dumb fuck doesn't mean you can get away.
Fn0rd
Where I live, infanticide (lat.: infanticidium) (killing of your own child) could be called if a child is neglected in that way, that it 1/2
Fn0rd
Won't get its mandatory vaccinations and dies as a result of that. Just like the situation in this FB-post. Completely justified. 2/2
Fn0rd
Infanticide is handles a lot harsher than voluntary manslaughter due to the fact, that you as a parent are supposed to protect your kid.
ITalkAboutGoats
she wouldn't be prosecuted since the infant couldn't get the shot until they are 2 months old anyway.
Fuzzlebutt
Given they are an anti vaxxer, they may of allowed the kid around other unvaccinated children. This is where grey areas come in..
ITalkAboutGoats
Mmm, agreed
Hinahou
Or at least she should. Looks like the father has seen sense.
dickable
Hindsight's great, but it doesn't change the reckless endangerment.
wagnus
Doesn't matter, the kid is dead. Jesus
AnnaKareninanananananaBatman
They have another kid.
NateintheNorth
Lots of other kids aren't. Punishing someone is not just to save them, but others as well.
scnottaken
Court grants custody to the mother. *gavel bangs*
MarinShatterhand
Supreme Court just ruled it's unlawful for judges to favor mother's for custody.
MrNlceGuy
Sadly, right now that system is terrible and I've known guys that have lost custody of their children to a drug-addicted wife
captain5
America.
TheVoidListens
Ah but that law is slowly changing to a more equal standing :D
ChrisTallant
Not in Michigan
hailinghydrate
Nor ohio. Well 3 counties are for equal rights. The other hate men.
IDoNotContribute
Thank God
Arceus
I didn't do shit. Ya'll finally realizing justice.
trainsman
I think you're mistaking the bias of the people in the court system for law. A law favoring women would be sexual discrimination, and 1/?
trainsman
Would have never been passed in the first place. However, a judge is free to make his own biased choice. It's not so much of a legal 2/3
ILikeSciFi
*feminist starts shouting* cis scum patriarchy stealing our children and filling them with poison! WE MUST TAKE CHARGE! *sips mcflurry*
Nazcom
How the hell do you sip a mcflurry?
ariafiresong
As a feminist, i agree that fathers need an equal say in their kids lives. Hell, my cousin is a shitty mother and just kept having babies.
somewhatvaguelywitty
Your name isnt really accurate. You should change it.
StopStaringAtMyUserNameItsVeryShy
One right doesn't undo a wrong
Ewanator
But one is better than two.
ShadowScorch
But it can still save the daughter
HD226868
They should be charged with murder.
RecurringNightmare
this...i see that they dont decide "my child shall die" so it doesnt truely count as murder legally, but there is a HUGE difference between>
RecurringNightmare
> neglect, not knowing things you should know and thus unintentionally causing harm, and wilful ignorance, because wilful means intentional<
dickable
Manslaughter, since intent is relevant, but I otherwise agree.
HD226868
I've never understood why intent is relevant. Someone is dead because of them.
MundaneFinality
I dont think you understand what either of those terms mean. What degree of murder should she be charged with?
HD226868
Probably don't. I just want her to suffer.
Odiin46
Negligence, at the very least
Edunc12
Should be negligent man or man two depending on state. Reckless killing.
MundaneFinality
At any rate, charging someone with murder when it is so easy to prove there was no intent to kill is a perfect way to ensure they get off //
MundaneFinality
// with no consequences.
threalbigC
Some states have a Neglect resulting in death statute, it's an odd thing legally because you have an actus reus but not always a mens rea.
threalbigC
If this is real the elements for establishing proper causation are there. Up to a prosecutor to prove it to a jury though.
PandAura
I think many states use a mens rea similar to or the same as negligence, which is of course not an uncommon standard for crimes.
threalbigC
Right, using negligence as sort of a surrogate mens rea.
Dvicemuse
I think it would be manslaughter... But it's it still manslaughter when it's a baby?
naytorin
Negligent homicide. It's a thing.
PuhTater
Infantslaughter sounds like a death metal band
DeadlyFood
Infanticide or something
itsbre
That's actually a thing, but it generally refers to mothers who kill their newborns because of mental illness like Postpartum Depression
ThePickliestRick
Babyslaughter?
EpicSeaFlapFlap
Its called infanticide
thisisagreatusernamedontworryitswonderful
Infantslaughter's first album
TheOneTrueNerd
And claim that it's actually "baby's laughter" but the album art had a typo and you rolled with it.
WorkerLurker
I was unvaccinated and didn't know, had a lot of health issues till I joined the Navy. Gained 30 lbs of muscle in 3 months and could breathe
westwood8183
That's not how vaccines work....
WorkerLurker
I was sick constantly because of exposure, prevention helped me stay healthy for once.
IllChooseABetterNameLater
"Gained 30 lbs of muscle in 3 months". Highly unlikely unless you were near death b4 hand. Or maybe a vegan (not a joke).
Dreigiau
I went from 155lbs to 170lbs during Navy boot, and I was on the varsity soccer team before that.
IllChooseABetterNameLater
I don't know how long boot camp was for you...
Dreigiau
8 weeks for navy. iirc Army and Marines are 10 weeks. dunno how long AF is (couple days?)
Dwarn44
Well, he did join the navy, and they have a pretty strict PT schedule.
IllChooseABetterNameLater
But still. 3 pounds a month worth of muscle is considered extreme. Maybe he put on 20lbs of muscle and 10 lbs of fat.
WorkerLurker
BFP came back 2.5 and then 3.5 so maybe? I was also severely underweight despite eating constantly.
WorkerLurker
Just from being vaccinated
ComeJoinTheMurder
Any idea why you were never vaccinated?
WorkerLurker
Mother was raised baptist in Wyoming
ComeJoinTheMurder
Ahhh fully understand. Grats on getting your shots and improving on your health.
SuperPickle17
Yeah, but at least you don't have autism!
TouchThaFishyyy