Claustrophobia

Aug 1, 2024 8:51 PM

Boxzsak

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutty_Putty_Cave

Fuck. I mean what drives people to try this shit. Haven't they heard of Darwin? Tempting fate? Thanks but I'll just chill on the porch with a beer after my 12 hour shift.

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

2 rules for caving:
1. Don't go for caving
2. Follow the rule no 1.

2 years ago | Likes 61 Dislikes 0

Oh god help someone get me out of the imaginary hole I'm now trapped in

2 years ago | Likes 31 Dislikes 0

If there was only a way to avoid these situations easily,

2 years ago | Likes 31 Dislikes 0

Either stay the hell out of holes you don't recognize, or there needs to be a mandate that all cave branches need to be CLEARLY MARKED. Mind you, even when there are lines directing cavers (and cave divers) people still seem to go off wandering. It's bonkers.

2 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

My geology student friend had to follow instructor into a cave/mine. Ok at first then they had to crouch. Then elbow and knee crawl. Then just shoulder wiggle. With the top of rock ceiling on back. With other people behind him as well. That moment he realized he was claustrophobic.

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

This story gives me nightmares to this day.

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

That is nightmare fuel for sure. Poor guy. That is a horrible way to die

2 years ago | Likes 249 Dislikes 1

Why? He had plenty of time to contemplate his life choices…

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 45

They had to leave him there so it's not only his cause of death but also his tomb.

2 years ago | Likes 76 Dislikes 0

I'm feeling pretty good that I'll be able to avoid this particular fate myself

2 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

If it makes you feel better, as time passed his organs slowly moved down due to gravity, squishing his lungs so he could only take very shallow, tiny breaths. With this lack of oxygen, he became delirious, having hallucinations, all while losing the feeling of his limbs. So he was tripping out of his mind and not feeling any pain. He survived much longer than expected and they brought a mic down so his wife could talk to him and say goodbye. Fatal Breakdown on YouTube did a good video on it.

2 years ago | Likes 33 Dislikes 0

That does not make me feel better, no.

2 years ago | Likes 39 Dislikes 0

2 years ago | Likes 676 Dislikes 2

When I stumbled on this like 5 years ago it fucked me up and I kinda went down a rabbit hole of caving disaster stories. I found this transcript on nosleep reddit which was the transcript of the last hours of a caver recorded by his rescuer who could get him out. If it's real, it's a horrible read...if it's fake that author is fucked.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I don’t fuck with caves for this reason. I’m gonna die like a man - statistically, of heart disease!

2 years ago | Likes 86 Dislikes 0

Yeah, I'll NEVER understand the appeal of caving. We went caving as part of a school camp in high school & all I could think while we were down there, in the pitch black, kilometres deep inside a mountain, squeezing ourselves through tight bends, was 'Aotearoa has a LOT of earthquakes & we've got a LOT of earth & rock sitting above us'. That's a NOPE from me.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Technically, he died of a heart attack.

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

The crawly caves terrify me, you couldn't get me to shimmy thru one for a billion dollars. Caves you can walk in are cool as fuck.

2 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

There's another level of terrifying caves: Underwater crawly caves! Seriously, cave diving is a whole different level of terrifying.

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

2 years ago | Likes 61 Dislikes 1

This is so dark it scored Zero on the Bortle scale.

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

2 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 1

That is literally my nightmare.. I broke into a cold sweat when I saw the news story about the high school kid who was found dead after falling down the center of a large rolled up gym mat, head-first. My sister rolled me up in a small rug when I was young, and it was the most terrifying experience. I cannot imagine

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Googled it for you: Nutty Putty Cave is a hydrothermal cave located west of Utah Lake in Utah County, Utah in the United States. The cave was formerly popular with amateur and professional cavers alike despite being known for its narrow passageways. It was closed to the public in 2009 following a fatal accident that year. Before that, it was popular among Boy Scout troops and college students.

2 years ago | Likes 33 Dislikes 0

So it was in Utah?

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

“… the landowner and Jones' family came to an agreement that the cave would be permanently closed, with the body sealed inside, as a memorial to Jones. Explosives were used to collapse the ceiling close to Jones' body, and the entrance hole was filled with concrete to prevent further access.”

2 years ago | Likes 80 Dislikes 0

Well... Gotta admit, that is a bit of a unique way to get your own personal gravesite. A bit grim and horrifying considering how it came about though...

2 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 0

I suppose it's how you one up those "everyone's grave is the same size" or whatever that bull is

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Sad thing is, other spelunkers that were mad about the cave being sealed went and defaced his memorial, as if they were blaming him for it.

2 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

One of the more terrifying caving disasters that I think of more frequently than I should. I have no desire to ever go spelunking, and this incident doesn’t help that.

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

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2 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

silly putty mining is so dangerous

2 years ago | Likes 378 Dislikes 4

And all just so kids could copy cartoons out of the newspaper in pink goo. I'm glad technology has eliminated the need for such dangerous work.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Serious business

2 years ago | Likes 24 Dislikes 0

Who knew

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

that's why I only use serious putty

2 years ago | Likes 29 Dislikes 0

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

But it smells delicious.

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

It tastes exactly like it smells!

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Technically, I’m not claustrophobic. But everything I see about spelunking in narrow spaces gives me deep anxiety.

2 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

I don't think that's claustrophobia. That's just common sense.

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Thanks Imgur for putting this on Most viral front page, because I needed to start my day with a minor panic attack thinking about that.

2 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

For real. Same deal, fuck @OP for not starting with a diff. image and a trigger warning or some shit.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

His body is still in that cave IIRC, with the hole sealed up so no one goes in it.

2 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 0

Really seals in the juices!

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

That is so morbid.

2 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Cave diving is so fucking stupid

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

This isn't cave diving? It's just caving.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It's all fuckin stupid

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I watched a video about this, horrible way to go slowly suffocating under the weight of your own body pressing down on you. They tried everything they could think of to pull him up but it was futile he was lodged in there and every movement caused him to slip further down.

2 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

Just to be that asshole: "There's always time for more lube." Except in that case, the amount of lube needed woulda drowned the poor guy.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Saddam's the wrong way around.

2 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 3

always use a flared base

2 years ago | Likes 62 Dislikes 3

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Clown shoes

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Are you a friend of DeSoto?

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

This will not get the respect it deserves

2 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

Used to go here with the scouts growing up. It was terrifying. There was a section called "the birth canal" that was so tight you had to shimmy like a snake through it. I barely fit as a 120lb teen. I still go 4 wheeling out there to see the little memorial.

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I won't even go into any fairly normal cave, visited by a large numbers of tourists. The film 'Thirteen lives' (excellent film!) about the true story of the soccer kids in Thailand getting trapped in a flooded cave was really horrific.

2 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

If I have to do more than stoop, then count me out.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Didn't they get out alive, eventually?

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

The kids and the coach were rescued. One former Thai Navy SEAL rescue diver died from asphyxiation and another rescue diver died of sepsis a year later from a blood infection acquired during the rescue.

2 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Ah. Another case of a successful rescue where the rescuers didn't make it. Crap.

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Stop showing this. Every time I see it, I have a panic attack.

2 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

on other sites, this sort of issue is traditionally handled using trigger tags to allow people to block things. But it's not caught on here

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I think we need to continue showing this specifically for this reason. When you have that gut response, maybe others will too, and they'll listen to it.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Nah dude fuck that. It pops up w/o warning and how many people are gonna decide whether to go caving based on an Imgur post..? I have claustrophobia and there's nothing at all to warn this is coming, and I hate it. Ruins my day.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

if we were talking about lung cancer or traffic fatalities I'd be with you, but caving is just not some widespread threat. Might as well make scare posts about quicksand.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I am uncomfortable.

2 years ago | Likes 870 Dislikes 1

Same

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Nutty Putty used to be my favorite place for caving. I feel like I knew every square inch of the cave and could never figure out where exactly he got stuck so bad.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yeah this one I didn't need to know about.

2 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

I bet that guy was too.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

2 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 0

Read more about this. And then think about it. And then imagine putting yourself in that position. And then you will truly experience uncomfortableness. But not like he did. I would die any other way than this way.

2 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 1

it gave me nightmares for months after I learned about it. I can't think of a more horrifying way to die.

2 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Agreed.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

He’s still down there. Cave was sealed after he couldn’t be recovered …

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Imagine how he felt.

2 years ago | Likes 97 Dislikes 1

Wouldn't he have passed out fairly early on?

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

He did not.

2 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Yeah, I went and read up on this incident. Had to cut the Morbid Podcast off. That is fucking wild.

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Ded

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Dead?

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yeah, he dead. Bit of a harrowing read. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutty_Putty_Cave

If you enjoyed that you'll probably bust a gut at the Byford Dolphin.

2 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

I watched this video after seeing this post, and my stomach was literally turning in knots thinking about it. How horrifying. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-TaF2DbaWw

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I mean, having not read this cave article yet, but having watched a vid on the Byford Dolphin, were their deaths bar one guy not basically instantaneous? Or are you referring to the conditions they were in before death just being generally nightmarish? Or, I guess...I can see the comparison now haha. At least those guys met a swift and painless end

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Great. Now I have 2 nightmare fuels in my head, living rent free, right before I go to bed after having taken nighttime flu medicine. Ty.

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

If I remember right, they injected him (through his feet) with medicine to calm him down and was likely quite a cocktail of opiates. So HOPEFULLY he was high out of his mind.

2 years ago | Likes 33 Dislikes 0

I would want a doc to OD me, please.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

IIRC the rescuers, once they realized the horrible truth that they couldn't save him, had to basically tell him he was gonna die so he could say goodbye to his family before his heart gave out. 💔 I hate the story so much, but a great podcast about it is done by That's Spooky. I highly recommend it if you really wanna know more.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Wait, if they could get to him to do that, why could they not pull him out?
Idk why I'm asking, the whole concept makes my skin crawl but I am morbidly curious nonetheless

2 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

The short version is attempting to pull him out would have broken his legs, and they doubted he could have survived the shock.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

IIRC they tried to use a pulley system and wrapped the rope around his legs. After pulling him up a little, his feet kept hitting the ceiling, and the angle of the opening was not good. At the same time, Jones' arms were pinned to his sides, so he could not help pull himself up. Also, his blood was going to his head, and he felt intense pain in his legs. The pulley system snapped and knocked out the helper next to him. After someone confirmed him dead, they left him there and closed the cave.

2 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

I haven't heard about the foot injection, but it's a lot easier to get a single tiny needle in than an entire pulling apparatus. Part of the issue is that he was so far wedged in that it was near impossible to reach him, let alone get a grip on him and pull him out.

2 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

I've read this thread and now I'm having an anxiety attack. Enclosed spaces are y wst nightmare.

2 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

They tried. It was extremely dangerous to even get near where he was stuck. After a failed attempt to pull him out (that only dropped him deeper), they decided that further attempts would likely kill the rescuers.

2 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 0

i cant imagine even being a rescuer for that.

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

That whole story is terrifying.

2 years ago | Likes 450 Dislikes 1

And heartbreaking

2 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Well, Willy Wonka should not have built that. Even if he found the other deaths in the other rooms acceptable, this was too much for even him, and he later tried to shoot himself with a musket loaded with a Werther's Original.

2 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 42

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Okay, grandpa, let's get you your meds.

2 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

What’s the story? He was exploring caves and got stuck?

2 years ago | Likes 95 Dislikes 1

There's a movie called The Last Descent. A remake like what they did with 127 hours and Aaron Ralston who cut his arm off with dull pocket knife. Both my homestate of Utah.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Here is a report from one of the people involved with his attempted rescue https://www.brandonkowallis.com/2024/02/the-nutty-putty-cave-rescue-the-death-of-john-jones-one-rescuers-perspective/

2 years ago | Likes 28 Dislikes 0

Thanks for this.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It was a pretty common place for us to explore growing up.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

This 12 minute video about this story I watched years ago that is perfectly straightforward and not over dramaticized completely traumatized me. https://youtu.be/jWwPg8ruxfI

2 years ago | Likes 46 Dislikes 0

Fuuuuuck I should not watch that. *click*

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I watched cave diving disaster videos for a while when I was more into horror. I'm good now. I have no desire to go caving anymore.

2 years ago | Likes 27 Dislikes 0

Same, I read about this and other similar disasters like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFOiob7wR5E "The Veryovkina Cave Tragedy" which was also awful, killed any desire to wander around underground, especially in tight spaces. What an awful way to die.

2 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

He only said he was off to find the meaning of life and would be back in about a week.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yup, pretty much. He was exploring a cave with several branching paths, as caves do. He thought he was doing down a tight passageway called the Birth Canal that opens up into a large chamber. However, he got a bit turned around and ended up going down the path called the Boy Scout Killer, named for hopefully obvious reasons. The part he was in was about 18" x 6", or possible smaller. He was so sure he was going the right way he wedged himself into ever smaller and smaller openings.

2 years ago | Likes 196 Dislikes 0

Sometimes I have nightmares that are similar

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yeah no thanks; I prefer to die in a large open space above ground if it's all the same to y'all.

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

“And now I’ll just pull my arms out with my face.”

2 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Fuck man, he turned himself into that Junji Ito comic

2 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 0

And, yikes, they pulled him partially out with a winch and tackle system that failed and he dropped back in while still alive, dying later, still trapped, of a heart attack. His remains remain where he died, buried by explosives sealing the tunnels.

2 years ago | Likes 113 Dislikes 1

A heart attack is an inevitable conclusion from being inverted for too long.

2 years ago | Likes 38 Dislikes 0

They sealed the tunnel with concrete, then blasted the main entrance.

2 years ago | Likes 85 Dislikes 0

Honestly, they should have done that when it first earned the name boy scout killer.

2 years ago | Likes 54 Dislikes 1

Yikes. People love tight holes I guess

2 years ago | Likes 54 Dislikes 3

So your mum is safe then. :P

2 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 2

I'd happily die in your mom's nutty putty cave. /s

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

2 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 1

Safe as a Boeing 737 max!

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

We need a more fear-inspiring term than spelunking. Fuck caves

2 years ago | Likes 48 Dislikes 3

Caving, that's the term I know for it.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Cave dying.

2 years ago | Likes 30 Dislikes 0

Hey guys wanna go cave molesting? "nah we're good, but also you should don't"

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Caves are fine, and provide a biome to lots of interesting species. Fuck stupid people who think going head first into incredibly tight

2 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

Fuck the people that reopened the cave. It had been closed because it was a super dangerous cave but the land owners managed to get the cave reopened. Shortly afterwards he died and the cave was sealed. There were a lot of failures across a lot of people that lead to his death.

2 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

it should be left open. Its a natural skimmer for the gene pool.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

underground confines is anything but the dumbest possible thing they could do. I'd literally respect him more as a human being if he died

2 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 2

from drinking battery acid straight out of a battery.

2 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 2

is long post broken for you? supposed to be a 500 character limit this year

2 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Old design still has character limits iirc?

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1