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Sawyer Micro
Twice as effective at filtration as the Lifestraw along with a few handy accessories... for about the same price or cheaper. Plus you won't have to stick your head in a puddle to use it. I have one spliced into the line of my camelbak and another in my go bag. Buy one.
Avoid: Lifestraw
Edit: Since people have asked what I actually keep in my car instead of just what items I think are good to have I took some photos when I got off work today http://imgur.com/a/H1Mzp
Classic Bic Lighters
They work in the cold, in the wet, in the heat and cost next to nothing. Store them in your pack, tape them to your keychain. Unlike ferro rods they don't require extensive tinder prep to use. Just flick and go. If the gas runs out the striker will still throw a spark. Unlike ferro rods/firesteels you won't accidentally knock over your tinder trying to light it.
When the idiot with a ferro rod is still gathering tinder and flogging at his rod like a pervert with whiskey dick you'll already have a fire going.
Avoid: Blast Match, Generic Ferro rods, Firesteels, Weatherproof matches
Nymphs and Streamers
Flies aren't just for fly rods, in fact they work on just about any fishing rod. Natural bait is best but if you can't find any worms or grubs flies are a close second. You can even put a small piece of bait on the hook and have the best of both worlds. Good ones are expensive, but weigh almost nothing.
Avoid: Powerbait, heavy jigs
Fluorocarbon Leaders
Fishing line spooks fish... if they can see it. A 4' length of clear leader material will dramatically increase your chances of hooking something delicious for dinner. I use 2lb line on my tenkara rod but 4-10lb is usually more than enough for most applications.
Avoid: Ultra heavy fishing lines over 20lbs. You're fishing, not winching up a truck.
Berkely Alive Maggots, Waxworms, etc
Simply put, they work. And for a wide range of species from trout to panfish (which are delicious BTW) unlike regular bait they stay viable for a long time in your go-bag.
Tenkara/Keiryu Rods
Cane pole meets fly rod, these are lethal for trout and panfish with some even being able to handle carp. They pack down smaller than a conventional rod and weigh in at only a few ounces. Much more delicate presentations and sag free drifts are possible with these rods... which means more fish on the table.
They will also protect lighter fishing leaders which will also allow you to catch more fish. Win win, right?
Tenkarabum.com is an awesome source of information on the subject.
Avoid: Slingshot fishing rods, pen rods,
Silky Saws
They cut through wood like well... a saw. The lighter ones are less than half a pound and are more than capable of building shelters, limbing trees for firewood, even some carpentry. If the wood you are cutting is slightly shorter than the saw blade, you can cut it. Unlike a bowsaw which tends to get in its own way.
Avoid: Sven saws, bow saws
Bahco 24" replacement saw blade (Dry Wood)
Ten bucks and maybe an ounce of pack weight you can have all you need to build a full sized buck saw. Either pack it flat in your bedroll or curl it up into a circle and throw it in the bottom of a bag. Survival Sherpa has a great how to on how to build a bucksaw from some scrap lumber, but it also works with sticks gathered from the woods. https://survivalsherpa.wordpress.com/2014/11/12/how-to-build-a-sturdy-takedown-bucksaw/
Paprika, Salt, Pepper, Other Spices
Wild game and fish tastes much better when properly seasoned. A little dry rub can turn a trashfish into a gourmet treat. My personal favorite is a mix of paprika, sea salt, sugar, and a hint of black pepper.
Avoid: Mountain House Meals (They're essentially repacked Knorr sides for 6x the price)
Pam Butter Flavored Cooking Spray
Wait... cooking spray? Why? For starters, it makes it easier to cook in the woods without your food sticking. Secondly, spray flies or lures with it and you dramatically increase your chances of catching fish. You can even use it to keep knives from rusting... just don't use it in bear country.
Heavy Duty Aluminum Foil
Cook, store leftovers, even make fishing lures. Is there anything it can't do?
Weber Rapidfire Chimney
You know that thing they use to light charcoal briquettes for the BBQ? Well it makes a dandy little wood stove. You can grill, boil water or even bake with it. Yes, I said bake. Wrap a fish in foil and stuff it underneath the chimney, three to five minutes per side and it is done.
The chimney construction makes it extremely efficient and easy to light. It is heavy though, and it doesn't break down like some other stoves. Personally that's not an issue for me, I just wrap my cooking gear in a cloth bag and stuff it inside the chimney.
Avoid: Cheap Chinese folding stoves.
Kleen Kanteen 64oz water bottle
They're bomb proof and in a pinch you can boil water in them. Just don't try it with the cap still on. The picture is of the 40oz model but I carry the 64oz because I spend a lot of time hiking and need the extra water when it gets hot.
Avoid: Swiss Bottle and other plastic lined bottles (you can't boil water in them)
Fish Mouth Spreader
Wait... why would I need this? Well it makes a dandy way of hanging your water bottle over a fire to boil some water.
Imusa Aluminum Mug 1.25qt
Big enough to cook in, and it nests with the 64oz water bottle. Plus they're cheap. You don't need fancy titanium gear that will warp over an open flame. Aluminum will do nicely.
Avoid: Overpriced titanium cookware, cheap heavy steel cookware
Ziplock Freezer Bags
Keep things dry in the rain, gather tinder and wild fruit, hold baitfish, they even make great emergency water carriers. Ultralight hikers use them for "freezer bag" cooking where you just pour boiling water over the food and seal until it cooks for mess free meals. Seriously, try it.
Esee Striker for Flint and Steel
This is really a luxury item but there's no better striker for flint, or quartz, or iron pyrite, or chert. Really if you can find an appropriate rock and tinder you can start a fire with this. It also doubles as a bow drill socket.
100% Cotton Shemagh
Tie the corners together to make a bag or a sling, wet it and wrap it around your neck to keep you cool on a hot day, use it to take hot pots off the fire, create shade, or even just use it for a little extra warmth at night.
Avoid: Synthetic fiber scarves and blends (they melt and catch fire easily)
Altoids
The tins are great for making char cloth for flint and steel, storing your fishing hooks or other small items. Plus the mints themselves will help cover up the taste of water purification tabs and they can be used to attract fish.
Walmart Lexan Cutlery
Yes, they're plastic and that's a good thing. Why? They're much more pleasant to eat off of than most metal camp spoons and they don't get hot and burn your tongue. Yet they also won't melt at even greater than boiling temperatures. Plus they're only about $1 per three.
Avoid: Overpriced titanium cutlery, sporks of any kind (They're just tongue stabbing spoons and this isn't Star Trek), light my fire spoons (they break).
#36 Tarred Bankline
Three strands of synthetic fiber that will hold over 300lbs, the individual strands can also be used for fishing or smaller chores. You can make snares, run trot lines, shelters, etc.
Unless you're willing to pay a premium for something like Titan branded 550 cord stick with bankline instead. The cheap stuff just doesn't hold up. The paracord/550 cord used in most survival lanyards is total junk that doesn't meet the military specs for 550 cord and most of it will break far far sooner than the advertised 550 lbs.
Avoid: Paracord, 550 Cord (Except Titan)
A Trowel
Light weight and cheap, good for digging holes and Dakota firepits. Don't leave home without it. Military style e-tools are way too heavy and have a tendency to lock shut if moisture is present. If you are hitting hard soil use a sharpened tree limb instead.
Avoid: Folding shovels (You aren't digging a trench, this isn't the Somme)
Mora Classic
You aren't Rambo, you don't need a huge knife. If you need to split wood or cut down a tree bring an appropriately sized axe. Usually they end up weighing the same as the bigger survival knives and are much more capable.
The Mora classics are great at carving and the carbon steel can be used to strike a spark in a pinch. They also hold an edge and are easy to sharpen.
Avoid: Ka-Bar Becker or other super large knives.
Folding Utility Survival Knife
I keep one on my keychain and one in my wallet. They're essentially folding razor blades. They're ultra light and you won't even know they're there until you need them. Just don't try and split wood with them.
MSR Aquatabs
Boiling water is one way to filter water in a pinch, but it is usually much easier to just throw in a few tablets and call it a day. The picture doesn't do them justice, each tab is 1/8th the size of an aspirin and will purify a quart of water. I keep a few in a freezer bag in case I don't have any other method of purifying water, the bag means I always have something to hold the purified water in.
They came in handy when my water bottle grew legs on a fishing trip (fucking Lake County tweakers will steal anything) and my choices were either go home or find another source of drinkable water.
Suunto A30-L
It's a compass, a good compass. The magnifying glass can be used to start a fire in an emergency and the fluid in the dial is actually flammable. Stick it in your pack, practice using it. You never know when you'll need it.
GPS units are great, but they use batteries and are susceptible to jamming. Some military bases send out a jamming signal for miles around to stop unfriendly forces from using GPS guided munitions to bomb them. The military base by San Francisco is a notable example.
Avoid: Digital Compass Watches (They don't stand up to much abuse and tend to be susceptible to interference.)
Harimb- I mean Gorrila Tape
Thick, black and hard to remove. You can patch kayaks, tents, ripped clothing. It's great. Doubles as medical tape.
Don't take the whole roll. Just wrap a few yards around a piece of fatwood or something and stick it in your pack.
Emergency Ponchos
They keep the rain off and can be done up as an emergency shelter in a pinch. Just tie the neck off and tie ropes to the corners to make a shelter. If yours doesn't have grommets wrap the corner around a small rock then tie your rope around the rock with a slip knot.
Avoid: Mylar emergency blankets (most of the time you just steam like broccoli instead of keeping warm)
Fresnel Lenses
Basically they're flexible magnifying glasses. Keep one in your wallet as an emergency fire starter that doesn't need any fuel and won't wear down like a ferro rod. Sure, they only work during the day but if you can get one fire going then you can set yourself up for the next fire much more easily. So you could make charred cloth or charred punkwood with your first fire or dry out some wood/kindling so that your next fire is much easier to start.
An emergency lighter
Two is one, One is none. Keep at lease one emergency bic stashed somewhere in addition to your other lighters. Keep it in your pack and never take it out. Trust me on this.
Original Mechanix Gloves
They hold up to intense abuse and protect your hands. They also might help keep your fingers from getting frostbite on a cold night even thought they're not insulated.
Last but not least, a 100% wool cap.
You can keep comfortable down to surprisingly cold temperatures as long as your head is dry and warm. And remember, always check the user name.
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PS: Haha, made you look. But seriously, remember to bring a wool beanie.
Just to be clear, these are great items but not a complete list of what to pack for an emergency. Sometime in the next few days I'll post my pack so you can see what I carry when I go hunting or fishing, because I bring different gear for both. For example, I bring a utility knife with hooked carpet blades when I go hunting but leave it home when I'm fishing.
Alright, you asked for it. Here's what I keep in my trunk: http://imgur.com/gallery/H1Mzp
virtualmix
I go fishing on Sunday starter pack.
xmikexoo
Yea that's way more than I would ever deem necessary. Unless you were doing a canoe camping/horseback trip. That's a lot of weight.
Isorikk
Alright I've packed my trailer now how do I make sure I always have it for survival
HailtotheGM
Lol, I was just thinking that he forgot to mention the horse-drawn carriage required to lug all that crap
mrllamatastic
+1 because that ABSOLUTELY made me look
asampsonfallsintheforest
As an ultralight backpacker, my back hurts looking at this.
webmdontheAT
Agreed. -From another ultra-lighter
UrbanNinja
This isn't for hiking. You need a truck to pack all of the above.
suomynonA
Why all the hate for the fire starters? I read that you're supposed to have 5 different methods of starting a fire.
panowca
And hate for weatherproof matches... wut. Get storm matches. They've worked for me in 10 beaufort on North Sea, the will work in a camp, lol
viila
Lighter(*2), flint striker, bow drill, magnifying glass(*2). If he really lugs all that stuff in the list, he's pretty covered.
suomynonA
I prefer fire pistons too.
hungsolo69
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EZliving
YES! every single time someone posts one of these I write that they should use sawyer mini instead of lifestraw! it's better in EVERY WAY
webmdontheAT
Agreed but I much prefer the larger sawyer over the mini especially if I'm out for weeks at a time.
hardytardigrade
Great info! I hope someone finds you soon
Pinkishu
Primitive Technology guy doesn't seem to have any of this :<
HandoB4Javert
Practical advice and a missing Cera...
monsterblues
I didn't check the username. Read the entire post. Stopped when I saw red. Almost cried. Now I don't know if I'm happy or sad.
Weiners
For now
jugRn0t
That wool cap though...
HandoB4Javert
But where is Cera? Off being photoshopped, then the cap added later?
IAlwaysUpvoteWeirdAlYankovic
Cera is here.
bigpapakrabs
weird al
planckstorch
You seem like a hoopy frood. You really know where your shemagh is.
DeliciousMeats
I never leave home with out it. I must own like 42 of them.
planckstorch
He's just this guy, you know?
CziltangBrone
Hoopy is a noun, not an adjective.
planckstorch
There's a book you need to read. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=A%20really%20hoopy%20frood
CziltangBrone
I prefer to get my information about Douglas Adams from Douglas Adams. Educate yourself, or just continue being wrong. It's your choice.
planckstorch
Okay, dick, I was trying to be nice. From the book: https://books.google.com/books?id=bt0PEsYjj5IC&pg=PA16&lpg=PA16&dq=hitchhiker%27s+guide+
CziltangBrone
So you posted a link to a very large preview of the radio scripts?
DashCallinAll
Some of these items seem helpful for survival, but others are either trivial or have only one or two purposes. Cooking spray =/= survival
DashCallinAll
A tenkara rod can easily be replaced with a length of narrow branch.
DeliciousMeats
Yet your catch rate goes up with the tenkara rod and it only takes up 1oz in the pack.
DashCallinAll
lol 1 oz, Ok. If you're fishing nymphs and streamers, you could easily hand line most streams in the US.
DeliciousMeats
For real, suntech and a few others make 1oz rods capable of hauling in decent sized fish.
reux
I'd classify some of this as "camping gear" not survival gear. Ex: the Pam. In a survival situation this takes up space. Decent list
keith123456789
Walking through the woods with a 64oz full water bottle and a Chimney stove alone is too heavy. Nevermind the rest of this stuff. Jeez.
DeliciousMeats
And yet... I did exactly that because it was the only way I was allowed to grill the fish I caught. I do have a pocket rocket clone stove.
HailtotheGM
You can't just grill the fish over a campfire?
FYeahLeapDay
Not "survival" gear. This is "survive a weekend in the woods, then drive my hatchback back to the city" gear
webmdontheAT
From ultralighter to ultralighter what type of pack do you use?
Cheomesh
This is how I feel about pretty much every "survival kit" or "bug out bag" post, though.
dpidcoe
This. OP would probably end up dumping half of it after the first day of having to lug it anywhere on foot.
Cheomesh
This is how I feel about pretty much every "survival kit" or "bug out bag" post, though.
dpidcoe
Ugh, don't get me started on bug out bags. 99% of them try to be half backcountry backpacking/half tacticool operator yet terrible at both.
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dpidcoe
That flashy first aid kit designed to treat front line combat wounds really makes it.
DeliciousMeats
Actually it isn't that bad. I've packed everything (including the weber) on a ten mile hike with no issues.
webmdontheAT
But as everyone on the AT says "hike your own hike" if you want to bring it forget about the haters. There is a lighter way though if you're
webmdontheAT
No offense to you but 10miles is not that far. Do some 20s with that weight then come tell me how you feel.
DeliciousMeats
Though I usually pack a canister stove just for ease of use and because there is such high fire danger here with the drought.
webmdontheAT
Interested check out: "Ultralight Backpackin' Tips: 153 Amazing & Inexpensive Tips For Extremely Lightweight Camping" by Mike Clelland
adsilcott
There's nothing wrong with investing in titanium if you want to, they certainly don't "warp over an open fire".
walkingtallmachinegunman
I have read that melting snow in Ti cups with no water added can warp the base. Havent tested myself though. I hate the cold.
poppedtheclutch
Stainless steel is far better for camp cookware anyway
Theinfamousthey
I've been using the same titanium pot for years. Never had a warping issue from fire.
Platypushat
To pack something warm that takes up little space, bring a cashmere or lambswool sweater. They're easy to find secondhand too.
PsychoFoxx
This started as survival gear then just ended up as fishing gear
HattyIs
Agreed, there are some good more robust options than those mentioned. Good list though.
MrBronsonTwist
I see survival gear as small items you should put in a small backpack incase you get lost going on a hike. Not 11 herbs and spices
theoriginalfirelizard
You can fit everything OP posted into or onto a backpack with room to spare. I would skip the chimney though.
PsychoFoxx
If I have to eat a meal without condiments, I'd rather die.
DeliciousMeats
When I'm out I usually supplement my diet with fish and wild fruit so for me fishing is a part of survival and keeping me fed.
HurtfulTurkey
This is a decent list for basic camping gear, but food is not a priority in a survival situation. Survival gear should fit in a pocket.
ElCadejo
Was thinking the same thing. Rule of 3's. You can survive ~3 minutes without o2, 3 days without h20, and 3 weeks without food.
Sztywniak
It's like saying going to the supermarket is part of my survival
bamcockseverywhere
When did lake ice or drought ever affect anyone's fishing? Never, obviously!
usersubbordercontrol
Fishing is one of the best ways to stay fed in the forest
VrahMaster
'Em ground fish are nutritious!
Gwaiin
Lakes rivers and streams bruh.
VrahMaster
Groundfish are fish that live on, in, or near the bottom of the body of water they inhabit. Some typical saltwater groundfish species (1/2)
Newthoenikker
Being outside doesn't qualify as a survival scenario buddy. We aren't THAT removed from nature yet. This is normal camping shit
OptimisticDownvoteLover
Where do you even go for all this stuff to be needed?
Neutralfan
America.
Neutralfan
OptimisticDownvoteLover
So do you need a permit to camp and hike in these places?
HalloweenAintTillManana
I leave on my annual survival trip Thursday. I'm already fucking pumped.
FuzzyX
I'm getting fucking pumped for you. Go pump nature hard my InterMet friend.
HalloweenAintTillManana
Oh ya. 5 nights, no tent, minimal food. Off the grid with a good buddy. Plus the meteor shower Thursday night.
DeliciousMeats
Right on!
Hybris51129
I have to admit that I love my Ka-Bar when camping.
RufusTheAardvark
My dad used his for gardening. "Just enough knife" he used to say.
PartyAtYourMomsHouse
agreed... Hell I can even chop down small trees with mine
MagiicHat
Don't hate on Mountain House. You never tasted something so good with so little prep.
Cheomesh
I have...Korr...or just about any instant lunch.
HornoTostador
Totally. I've used them backpacking and have about 25 in my earthquake/Trump gets elected kit at home.
mandyBre
Gotta agree with this, Mountain House meals taste so good. Just catch them on sale if you want to spend less.
MagiicHat
If you watch, you can usually catch a 10 pack for under $6/meal. Bargain.
gunterleeds
They are pretty good. But I find its cheaper to just have pizza delivered by helicopter.
MagiicHat
You must have Verizon. I never get reception in the back country.
gunterleeds
Oh I use a sat-phone. Even with those rates, its still cheaper than a Mountain House meal! ;) But in all seriousness, they are delicious.
AIComments
Seriously, maybe one or two are similar to Knorr sides, but they are way more extensive than that. Ya you are wasting money, but not time.
AIComments
Most notably, none of the Knorr sides have meat.
MagiicHat
This is really the whole reason. Knorr sides are just that... sides. If you are fishing, thats perfect, but I bring all my calories in.
MagiicHat
And for so little weight (that's the important part)
Gray808
Sure I have. packitgourmet.com.
MagiicHat
Lol. Well played. Can you recommend any of their meals in particular? My next trip is going to deplete my stash of MH.
Gray808
Loved them all. Chick'n Dumplings great, all the burrito ones. The Tuscan stew great, get extra polenta. (1/2)
Gray808
Gumbo + sausage + tin smoked oysters is fantastic. The refried bean|"burger" burritos are great lunches.
DeliciousMeats
For the money and space I just do knorr sides in a freezer bag or make my own camp food.
woolsock
I have found it helps pouring it in a pother and making it like that. Just seams more like real food if it's not in a bag.
woolsock
Pot*. Also if you are eating out of the bag I like to cut the top of lower so I can reach the bottom without climbing gear.
Stretchytadpole
I'd like to see the size of his damn pack. But out and survival bags must be kept as light as possible.
DeliciousMeats
Which one? My 3 day bag is only maybe 20lbs plus water and food.
webmdontheAT
I tend to agree my AT back is around 18lbs with a liter of water and 5 days food and I always over pack food.
thedeg
Damn. Adding that sawyer would be sweet for my camelbak. Being able to fill the pouch with any water would be awesome.
madetheaccountjustforyou
I have one of their older larger units. It's great. It's inline on a platapus bag. I can scoop up a bag of water from a creek in 20 seconds.
DeliciousMeats
Buy the adapter kit, you can plug it in as needed, or even turn it into a gravity filter to fill the bag.
crypt0
I've had that sawyer inline for my camelback for a while. It's great if I have to fill it with dirty water.
crypt0
Hell, because it has charcoal in it, it even does a good job of removing the iodine/bleach taste from cheap purification tabs.
ZombieEinstein
Do yourself a favor, and use it to fill with clean water - not drink dirty water from your camelbak. It'll stay cleaner.
GirlRaisedITS
DO NOT PEE IN YOUR CAMELBACK
glassweaver
Sawyer was actually forced to downgrade their stated filtration capacity after they were caught lying. Can provide proof later....(1/2)
glassweaver
(2/2) then there's the issue with build quality, and the lie about what it filters. Go check out the critical reviews on Amazon to see.
Walkusa
I've had a lot of problems with the Sawyer filter during my 5,000 mile backpacking trip. Unit ended up leaking very early on. Mixed feeling.
zooshooter
Keep in mind, the sawyer is mechanical filter only. To filter chemically you still need a carbon filter or similar.
Ferrous
It takes out everything that matters unless you're drinking 5 feet from a dead animal or out of a pool of toxic waste.
branik12
I have used the sawyer for a while now. I just got back from a 10 day trip in Alaska and took the Platypus GravityWorks 4 liter 1/
branik12
It was a far better. It weighs very little and reduced the need to boil water for cooking so it saved on fuel weight too.
stinkytarantula
See I have this platypus on my wish list. It seemed a little more suited to volume than the Sawyer.
branik12
I would strongly recommend it. The only issue with it is that the eyelets to hang it are a little weak. I fixed this by cutting 1/2
branik12
a 1"x4" piece of plastic and drilling holes to match up with the eyelets to relieve some stress from the bags. 2/2
BobLobllaw
+1 for the sawyer. Saved my ass in Costa Rica!
thedeg
Im going to Peru over xmas and new years, itd be pretty sweet to be able to fill my bag with tap water instead of bottled!
nitroneil
Does this thwart against Montezuma's Revenge?
OriginalEducatedCohort
Absolutely, as long as it's from the water. Can't do much for that chimichanga you got from Pacos Tacos Truck...
thedeg
Mix it and pump it through the filter. Might work!
grandallbiognome
I've got it. Love it. Get it.
oneoldman
Get one of the bigger (1mil gal vs 100k gal) rated ones- much better flow, very noticeable when you are not squeezing the reservoir
DrKriegersClone
There are a variety of gravity filter bags that are great for camping with a group, if a little large for true survival purposes.
thedeg
Im only interested in small ones for travel though, so this would fit me perfectly. Its a tad on the expensive side though
TraitorousTrump3
I have a sawyer mini. Damn hard to get water through it. 32 oz bag takes a lot of work, like 20 min of squeezing continuously.
xxMycroftxx
I think you're doing it wrong...
TraitorousTrump3
No. It has a bag w it for carrying water. Squeeze/roll it up to get clean out.
xxMycroftxx
No, I mean I don't find mine difficult at all. I've hiked... probably near 200 miles with it as my sole water source...
TraitorousTrump3
Consider yourself lucky then.
fauxxfoxx
I agree. I've used the mini for many backpacking trips. But I had to go back to my old regular sized Sawyer filter for the better flow rate.
thedeg
What, you cant suck water right through it?
TraitorousTrump3
You can, but it's hard. Not like my other filters. And squeezing bag through gets cooking water.
finewine8888
Yes I bought the Sawyer exactly yesterday
StraightToCatFolder
It's only $20
thedeg
Try closer to $50
StraightToCatFolder
They're $20. I've bought two. Just googled it. $20.
thedeg
Uh huh. Im not american though. So its closer to 50.
BaeCaughtMeSlippin
It's so great. Literally just fill up and go.
Catmancer9000
Also ditch that "emergency" poncho get a real one that won't rip in the first 30 sec. Hell even a shitty blue wal-mart tarp would be better
Meloncov
For a long trip or when you expect rain, you want real rain gear, but having something light to carry on sunny day treks is a good idea.
DeliciousMeats
For an actual tarp I've got a BASE 1.0 Tube Tarp, way lighter than a wal-mart tarp and it is coated with mylar to reflect heat back at you.
DeliciousMeats
The emergency poncho is for just that, emergencies. Hopefully if you were in a place where you were expecting rain you would bring a jacket.
CziltangBrone
Anyone ever actually used the "frogtogs" type rain gear? Is it any good?
potentiallyunsafe
The only thing I want to disagree with is the cotton blanket. Once that gets wet it's going to stay wet and be no use.
Myjobiskillingmywanderingsoul
Cotton kills.... Nuff said
youcantmakemechooseausername
Your talking about the shemagh? That's just a scarf not a blanket. I have a few and they are great to keep cool or warm
panowca
> survival gear >avoid synthetic fabrics, they melt. Yeah, polars and gore-texes melt. Just remember that and you're fine instead of
panowca
carrying a fucking wool, cotton fabrics that are a) heavy b) even heavier when wet c) stink after a week d) NOT (as) warm when wet
panowca
my pa is a high-mountain hiker (Alps, Dolomites, Ural, Himalayas). When synths came around he never looked back to woolen/cotton blankets
theoriginalfirelizard
Why are you harping about blankets? The shemagh is just a cloth for misc., not a blanket or towel.
Drapeta
There were no blankets mentioned. I think that was just a square of cloth, like you might wear as a scarf or bandana.
potentiallyunsafe
Oh, I've never heard the term used before and assumed it was blanketish in size
xxMycroftxx
yeah, you can get a polyester one that will dry faster, though.
DeliciousMeats
Yeah, I pack a synthetic sleeping bag and a bivy sack. Or a 100% wool blanket for sleeping in. The shemagh is cotton for char cloth.
Chautauquan
Still thinking that wool is the better option. I mean, maybe it depends on your season/environment, but wool > cotton, for me.
DeliciousMeats
I found that synthetic ones tended to melt when taking things off the fire.
Remilin
Yeah, for cooking reasons alone I would take it.
truthsmiles
The three essentials: Folding pocket knife, a lighter, and iodine tablets.
WhyIsMyNameFloridaThatsTheNameOfAState
I would have gone with a good multitool rather than a pocket knife, but that's just me
SloMoHippo
what about broadband internet?
BibinDominicTom
Try http://Gadgetur.com
Himgurian
First things to address: shelter, water, food. In that order.
Jacxy
And bourbon...
Disin
Thought I was alone...
Jacxy
Only while drinking...
Filiparevaldigtbra
Never heard of anyone here in sweden using tablets or anything to purify water. You can drink the water pure from pretty much anywere.
Disin
Sverige är packat med rullstensåsar så... Norden är väldigt unik dock.
BuddyBoombox
Do NOT try this in other parts of the world, great way to put yourself in the hospital.
Filiparevaldigtbra
Have friend with just a pump from the lake for all their drinking water.
NationalistCanadianMooseWarrior
That's in Sweden. It's like that here too, but not everywhere.
starkart
You can drink the water in switzerland pretty much everywhere
oneoldman
FYI: even mountain lakes that have never been visited by any animal are often contaminated due to aur currents spreading spores from ranches
starkart
If i go hiking in the mountains i drink from every little stream... never had an issue. I just watch that i can see where it comes from 1/2
starkart
of the top of the peak and make sure no cows are grazing beside it. 2/2
oneoldman
The point is that you can't see microbial contamination, and it comes from the air.
starkart
Yes i get that... just saiing around here it seems to be no problem
Counterfit
Bring a little vial of chlorine bleach for disinfecting water. One or two drops per gallon. It's what municipal systems use.
BurritoBlasterBoy
In Boy Scouts they have the 10 essentials. I can't recall all 10 right now, but look them up online. They're fairly good.
MnemonicMonkeys
And a compass, to prevent you from getting lost and helping to get to civilization when you need it
nanotinker
I would no use a folding pocket knife, every time you hit it with a rock to make a shelter it will break,try something that can take a punch
NationalistCanadianMooseWarrior
What kind of knives are you buying??
Counterfit
A knife in a survival situation is far to valuable to risk hitting it with a rock.
citoyenne
Wait, why would you hit a knife with a rock to make a shelter?
nanotinker
Yes to make a shelter, tools, items
JackDouglas
It works sort of like an axe. Put the blade into the wood and hit it into the wood with a rock. Repeat until log becomes 2 logs.
passbuspass
Id personally go with a fixed blade so you dont have to worry about the bolt failing on a folding knife
Icecold11111
Unless you're hacking on a tree with a shitty cheap folding knife that won't happen
NationalistCanadianMooseWarrior
That is a 100% non issue.
derock789
If you keep a folding knife in good shape you should be fine. Fixed are ideal but not by much.
passbuspass
truth be told, Ive never owned a quality made folding knife, but Ive wrecked enough to know if youre gonna go cheap, take the fixed lol
Thatknifeguy
You can do more with a fixed without fear of damaging mechanisms. More reliable. But in a pinch, whatever you have works.
ItsUncleSam
There's a reason the Military uses fixed blades in their utility knives, they just work. Simplicity is key for anything you survive with.
DeliciousMeats
Don't forget something to carry water, a flashlight, and some cordage.
hereforthensfwreddits
Tea lights. save your lighter fluid.
DeliciousMeats
Tea lights are great, but they tend to melt in the summer heat and get everywhere. I vacuum pack mine to avoid that happening.
hereforthensfwreddits
candles with harder wax would be way easier in a hot environment.
Manieman
And your hotel room key
Rololo
This guy. +1
dauntlessds
I'm not wrapping that gorilla tape around my fatlog. That will hurt hella bad ;)
dauntlessds
*obligatory "dicks out for harambe"*
catsaregroundowls
I never bring water backpacking. I carry an empty collapseable bottle, a filter, and tablets. Who wants to lug around 10lbs of water
NekoMiko06
Anyone who plans on desert backpacking? 10 pounds is hardly 5 quarts, less if you count the container.
catsaregroundowls
I don't go places where I am going to have to stay outside in the sand.i already lived in Tucson, I came to CO for a reason lol
EverybodyGetsABrandNewUpvote
Honestly, it's better to have the option of lugging around 10 pounds of clean water. You can purify 10 pounds of dirty water afterwards.
catsaregroundowls
I am confused. Can you elaborate in 140 characters?
EverybodyGetsABrandNewUpvote
You have the capacity to carry 10lbs of water. You can use the 10lbs first, then replace it from a water source for easier purification.
truthsmiles
I agree those are helpful, but I assume in a real survival situation I'll be able to find plastic bottles in any ditch, clothes can be...
OtisNice
If you know what you're doing you can find cordage in nature. Natives to all regions did so for eons. This is a good write up.
Gomer592
natives had TIME to make cordage, a 50ft of para 550 (yes cheap) is small and useful, its worth the 2oz it weighs,
OtisNice
I fully agree and carry 550 myself. I was just stating that it can be made from nature as well.
truthsmiles
...made into cordage, and a flashlight is a luxury, especially if I have fire.
HandoB4Javert
How will you see confession bear without a flashlight?
truthsmiles
Good point. I would hope my fire gives off some light.
FarmerFrance
Oh he meant fleshlight, you're going to be lonely
DeliciousMeats
Where I go there are no plastic bottles, and a flashlight can do things a torch can't. Plus I'm not going to tear up my clothes for cordage.
truthsmiles
A planned excursion? Yes, bring all the stuff. EMP blast while driving? Different scenario (which is what I was thinking).
CaptainGrowler
Bugout bag
DeliciousMeats
I have all of those either in my wallet or on my keychain, along with a fishing kit and some other extras. If we're talking about EMP 1/?
Aelinsaar
Newsflash: EMP blasts come with nuclear explosions in the real world, in which case the pulse is the least of your worries.
NotACop1515IsMyAgeNotACop
Where the fuck are you driving through?
octopussua
You're no prepper. Bug out bags are your friend, one in the car, one at home.
demonjester1515
We had it drilled into us to have dry matches instead of a lighter for wilderness survival. Especially the BIC kind in OP's post.
StiabhnaD
In Ireland: Zippo with extra flint under the cladding & a firesteel striker; Leatherman Surge & 15cm serrated knife; Gortex poncho. (1 of 2)
StiabhnaD
(2 of 2) Also, plenty of euro notes for when you inevitably find a pub.
SchrodingersDongers
You gain something, you lose something.
Updoodilydoo
That's boy scouts for ya. Though, they never stopped us from using lighter fluid.
demonjester1515
Lol. That they did not. Though I will say somehow we still ended up learning how to build a good fire. And then use lighter fluid anyways.
Updoodilydoo
We learned lighter fluid first, then the "proper" way, then at around my last year I said fuck it and went back.
justforthis42
i can build a fire using a striker, bow, matches etc, all skills learned in scouts etc. , but have been using a bic for the last 20+ years
demonjester1515
That's where I learned all those too, but properly protected matches are almost no-fail. BICs can break. In a survival situation that's key.
demonjester1515
That's not to say they WILL break, or that I ONLY use matches in all situations (I don't), but for survival you have to take the odds.
justforthis42
i always carry both, at least 2 match carriers and probably about 4 bics between all my equipment, i just appreciate the fact that you can
justforthis42
use a lighter hundreds of times before it runs out of fuel vs trying to keep that many matches dry
BlueSpaceLizard
TOILET PAPER! Light, great firestarter, and you'll be cursing later on if you forget it. I'd replace the beanie with a sun hat as I'm in OZ.
StiabhnaD
What plmshrddr said. Also, toilet paper is worthless in humid environments and soakage ruins it. Toilet paper has other good uses though :)
plmshrddr
tampon is better for that, doesnt take weight nor space, and you can use it to start a fire too, especially combined with a tealight candle.
BlueSpaceLizard
Cool, but you'll be needing to actually go to the toilet at some stage ;) (not so much a 'survival' item, just a relief to have).
plmshrddr
that's why i pack both, I actually responded mostly to the firestarting part :p
citoyenne
To be fair, if you have a vagina, tampons are a relief to have as well.
EverybodyGetsABrandNewUpvote
You can also use a tampon as a water filter. Just rig it so water comes in one way and the particles get trapped while it inflates to WHOOOA
WalterKrunkite
Survival? More like "fishing and camping trip"
TheHeavilyArmedRat
True
truththroughscience
This list is ridiculous...
Newthoenikker
Dont know why this is downvoted. This list is silly to be called survival gear. This is camping shit
Joonbug
Yeah...gorilla tape? Pam? Tim foil? A fucking charcoal chimney?? I just got off the PCT. I would have dropped 3/4 of this shit after a day.
RatAndCatSearchAndSurvival
A lot of people run into survival situation on short outings into the wilderness.
Csel
catching fish will help you survive.
eggmuffin
They're the same thing. What keeps you comfortable on a week's hike, keeps you alive if it takes you a month to find your way home.
dpidcoe
The thing is, I'm not going to be comfortable carrying heavy duty aluminum foil and a charcoal chimney on a weeks hike.
eggmuffin
No, you're right. That's a luxury item. But one I wouldn't mind carrying.
Rawcal
Or a fucking cooking spray.
OverpricedCrayon
Pam and Paprika is in no way necessary for survival.
eggmuffin
True. The title of the piece could, with benefit, have been different.
DarkUranium
But what if you run into a hostile transdimensional being whose only weakness is paprika? Thought of that, huh? HUH?!?
OverpricedCrayon
You got me there
DeliciousMeats
I picked a bunch of light weight and inexpensive gear that gives you a lot of flexibility to survive. Sure, it isn't super tactical 1/2
dpidcoe
So you're saying I should take a charcoal stove, aluminum foil, and PAM on my backpacking trip this weekend? Sounds good.
DeliciousMeats
I'm saying that I take all of those items on my trips and that they're awesome for the things I do. I also have a MSR pocket rocket clone
dpidcoe
So the things you do are drive your truck to the local river and fish? Maybe walk a mile in the woods if you're feeling really adventurous?
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DeliciousMeats
It's "then" as in "then you have an issue" but it isn't necessary, just handy.
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Gallop
I think you were that guy first...
otterlily
I'd say it's necessary if you don't want to spend time scraping fish out of whatever you cooked it in. It's light weight and a time saver.
SeanTheEngineer
Hey OP have you read Emergency by Neil Strauss?
Hoyboy76
I have. Although entertaining, mostly useless for survival unless you're a Hollywood-type with money
DeliciousMeats
No, what's it about?
Hoyboy76
to spend procuring alternate citizenship. I recommend Tom Brown's Field Guide, which I learned about in Emergency, so there was that.
SeanTheEngineer
It seems to have tons of cool info that the author learned about over a period of a year or two. Pretty good read.
SeanTheEngineer
Info about survival stuff.
DeliciousMeats
But it doesn't have to be overbuilt and heavy as hell to work in a survival situation. This is gear someone would actually carry and use.
mistatorso
I stopped carrying pam spray and I've started using dehydrated butter or canned butter, both work well.
ElCadejo
Or ya know, you could leave 90% of that shit at home since we're talking about survival situations here. Not camping.
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rocketcarman
Definitely a mirror in that list lol
Demostheneses
well played ....
DeliciousMeats
I also didn't include a first aid kit, condoms, a tarp, wool blankets, etc. It is cool stuff to have with you not an all inclusive list.
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demonjester1515
That stove is pushing the limits of "carry and use in a survival situation". I'll grant you that you gave the disclaimer but it's very 1/?
DeliciousMeats
To be honest I would rather have a bushbox xl, but it was almost $100 and the little ones didn't do what I needed. If I'm allowed 1/?
DeliciousMeats
I'd rather dig a dakota fire pit. If weight is an issue I've got a knock off MSR pocket rocket or my whisperlite international.
demonjester1515
bulky and heavy. Mylar emergency blankets are a very small and lightweight way to aid signaling for help, and I'll fight to the death on 2/?
DeliciousMeats
Try a CD instead for signaling, the hole in the center is good for sighting through. My tarp is actually reflective on one side an orange 1/
demonjester1515
dry matches over BICs, which we were taught never, ever, ever to use. That being said...there's a lot of good info here OP. I like the 3/4
destinoz
Tweakers stole your water bottle while you were out in the middle of nowhere? No wonder you keep a razor blade on your key chain.
JustTheFactsMan
Some of them took a few shots at me once. Fortunately, the only thing worse than their lifestyle choices is their abysmal shooting skills.
DeliciousMeats
Yep, and another time they attacked me because they thought I was a cop there to spy on them. It happens.
AyeAyeCaptainTightpants
Tell me it wasn't Lake County, Florida.
ellert0
Turns out, the most dangerous animal in the wilderness is another human.
MetalSkeletal
Humans, Mr Anderson, are a disease. A virus.
aFadingMemory
Can you elaborate? Did you whoop some ass or what?
DeliciousMeats
I was about to, then I stopped when I realized one of them was about 8months pregnant. Mostly I just yelled at them, but not her.
BemusedBystander
I am afraid to ask what a Tweaker is
BemusedBystander
Thanks everybody. TIL something.
Cheomesh
Meth head.
Gallop
Someone on drugs who is very obviously high. You can tell by speech and body movements that are usually jittery.
brainbelljongleur
It can be used to attract fish.
MetalSkeletal
No you idiot!!!!!! It's people who go around flicking people's nipples.
destinoz
Usually it refers to meth addicts. So the woods are full of meth addicts... so have a great camping trip!
perlcat
The hills are alive with the sound of music, and the woods are alive with the sounds of meth heads.
MetalSkeletal
I think that's how it went.