My dudes, this means they are removing Iran as a threat so they can take the west bank in order to build the third temple. This isn't new testament propaganda, it's old.
Jesus saying war is inevitable makes me want to side with Satan; at least he asks if I would rather like large denominations or small denominations of dollar bills.
Do I think there’s a God? Eh, I’ve no clue. Do I really, really, really hope there is one so people like this have to look him in the face and say “Fuck your children”? You betcha!
Listen, IF this ridiculousness was even remotely true, wouldn’t it make more sense that Jesus (well-known to have been born in the Middle East) would probably be on the Middle Eastern side of this war? He certainly was not American and vehemently hated capitalism based on his own words so what kind of moron doesn’t understand he would NEVER willingly join the USA?
Yeah, Im pretty sure the plan isn't for Jesus to come down and save the terrible people, and only terrible people cheer for the mass destruction of God's creation.
Hey, if she's such a traditional religious woman, she needs to cover her legs, and go take care of the kids and cook dinner. And she should not have a job or education. And stop making influencer videos, no income from selling your body online.
Like 30 million or more Americans literally believe in this rapture shit and that Israel / middle-east wars will trigger the end-times. Pete Hegseth is one of those believers....
it could trigger the end times, they are right on that, it just that it not gonna be anything divine, just dumb monkeys nuking themselve out of existence over fairy tales
I cannot imagine the sheer conceit of believing in an omnipotent, omniscient deity, and somehow also believing that you can compel this deity to act on your own schedule by manufacturing a series of events listed in a prophecy. Like God is nothing more than a series of if/and statements.
The point is that the book they're claiming to follow explicitly days man will not know the day, and these chucklefucks keep saying they know the day or are going to make ot happen.
I mean... religion is treatable too. Deconstruction is a thing, it's just a treatment that will make you lose your self identity and often your family a support network.
Right. I understand this as going alongside the inability to precisely predict, because conflict is constant. I'd have to re-read to see if there is any context of scale.
Young coworker I hit that with was at a loss for words. "Those are the literal words of Jesus Christ, and YOU know better? People in his time thought he was coming back for them. 2,000 years later, what makes your times so special?" Not as combative as it sounds, good convo. Felt sorry for the guy, just got out of prison on bullshit charges, dad would fire him and disown him from the family fortune if he didn't go to church and watch prosperity gospel. Sickening.
Ask the kid who stands to lose a literal fortune and his family to boot. Poor guy had clear PTSD from a year in the clink, he was a fucking wreck, nervous and scared shitless, didn't know how to act or speak socially. I've never been in such shoes.
I used to go to church, and I also read the whole bible. What happened with me was a lifetime of pure psychological hell- and jesus did nothing to help at all. Still hasn't.
I'm sorry for your pain. As an atheist I don't believe that Jesus has the power to do anything. He was just a person who told people to stop being shitty... and he's been dead a really long time.
This kind of apocalyptic thinking is so terrifying. Just completely checked out from other’s suffering because “None of this matters, my holy book told me it’s paradise time!”
And these are the same type of people who are driven to seek positions of power so they can make it happen faster... and way too many people let them get into those positions too.
Early Christianity had a huge problem with suicides for early paradise, so they added the suicide clause to thou shalt not murder. Can't have the masses you're trying to control just die off.
Their book also says that suffering is a good thing, and that the more you suffer, the closer you are to god or some such bullshit. They want people to suffer, as long as it's not them.
This is why Mother Theresa was such a fucking monster. She didn't help the poor, she just let them suffer and die out of sight of the public.
Actually just reviewed this with my daughter because of some classwork (indirect, completely valid). Led to some good discussions on ability to manipulate the story around the verse. That in particular was II Corinthians 12
An atheist myself, but labeling all Christianity a vile death cult is kind of like saying iron is a warmongering element because it gets used for swords. Christianity, religion in general, is whatever people want it to be. These dealthcult morons aren't poisoned by faith; that's just the medium to express the common human traits of indifference to suffering, magical thinking, and believing that if they just set the table right, daddy will come back from that cigarette run this time.
There are 40,000 sects of Christianity. All of them use the bible as the foundation of the religion.
Some of them ignore the really awful parts, but there is no version of Christianity that is not problematic.
People like you with this "not all Christians" nonsense only provide a smokescreen for the extremists, and you've done nothing to address any of the actual problems.
"I don't support slavery, genocide, misogyny, or the apocalypse, I just support an organization that does".
Lol, not even remotely what I'm saying. Maybe try reading the words and thinking about what they mean, instead of just picking up on the 'this person isn't validating my opinion' vibes and launching into your prerecorded thought patterns for defenders of Christianity.
Every Christian denomination is, in fact, a death cult. To claim otherwise is necessarily ignorant or dishonest; there is no third option.
You're trying to pretend that the problem isn't Christianity, but rather some corruption of the teachings of Jesus. To even say that means you don't know what Jesus actually taught.
I'm very sorry that you don't understand the topic you're trying to argue about, but that's your problem. Maybe read the book before arguing about what it says.
No, stupid. Christianity SPECIFICALLY is LITERALLY a fucking death cult. The central figure sacrifices himself. Martyrdom is beatified. You must suffer and deny yourself your basic nature to recieve a reward that you can only recieve after death. All of existence is in preparation for a Cos.ic war where EVERYONE will die, one way or the other.
Nobody is dissing Christianity, they are OBSERVING it.
mplshipster
My dudes, this means they are removing Iran as a threat so they can take the west bank in order to build the third temple. This isn't new testament propaganda, it's old.
Nekron35
Frustaz
I hope Jesus comes to your fucking house and shits in your mouth, you tumor
HolyFreakingToast
we need more mental health services
physicsdoc
Jesus saying war is inevitable makes me want to side with Satan; at least he asks if I would rather like large denominations or small denominations of dollar bills.
BastardMan1977
invaderjak
Imagine thinking the lives of billions are irrelevant just because your Bronze Age sex manual says it means you go to heaven
Dontstopbelever2000ismyfavoritesoap
Or just like, ignoring the MASSIVE wars that happened between then and now that DIDN'T trigger the rapture.
TomBrokaw
Imagine thinking you're going to go to heaven when you're cheering for armageddon
TheElliotPage
#1 shouldn't she be a Jew like Jesus was?
foreverinchains
Jesus didn't invent Christianity.
Paul did, decades after Jesus died.
SedatedPossum
Well, it started with the correct letter, anyway, but veered off from the -U-N-T I expected.
AisforApple
Dangerous delusion disguised as virtue.
poundingCode
I could not think of a better definition of religion.
mmmurppp
Every generation for 2000 years has been expecting his return.
Mountons
Disgusting
Defcon2
I am a "C". I am a "C U". I am a "C U N T"
xHasten
“I am a C-U-N-T, CUNT, oh yes I am!”
Otomasoteraph
I hope, for her sake, that she never experience a missile barrage in her area
casualgenderquestion2718
Do I think there’s a God? Eh, I’ve no clue. Do I really, really, really hope there is one so people like this have to look him in the face and say “Fuck your children”? You betcha!
Hatlled
I hope he's real. I won't look him in the face- I plan on wiping his face off with a shovel.
MajMalfunction2
Fuck this affluent cunt and everyone who thinks like her.
I hope both sides of her pillow are always warm and that her socks are never quite dry.
arvinj1
No, you ignorant slut it doesn’t
meganical
Listen, IF this ridiculousness was even remotely true, wouldn’t it make more sense that Jesus (well-known to have been born in the Middle East) would probably be on the Middle Eastern side of this war? He certainly was not American and vehemently hated capitalism based on his own words so what kind of moron doesn’t understand he would NEVER willingly join the USA?
W0lfsbl00d
Doesn't matter, to them all they have to do is say the magic words to white Jesus and think the magic thoughts and they get to go to their heaven.
ChrisTravel
If you wonder how to send thousands willingly to their death… there is your answer.
roughingupthesuspect
...He who is first in life will be last into the kingdom of heaven..." -Bible
woozle
lifeisadadjoke
This is the reason why Jesus' middle name is 'fucking'
ParpleBarglarAhrlm
I am silent judging her behavior, which I guess the Bible warned her about so it becomes self fulfilling
MrStealUrMeme
Yeah, Im pretty sure the plan isn't for Jesus to come down and save the terrible people, and only terrible people cheer for the mass destruction of God's creation.
fractalsphere
Hey, if she's such a traditional religious woman, she needs to cover her legs, and go take care of the kids and cook dinner. And she should not have a job or education. And stop making influencer videos, no income from selling your body online.
Andersen81
If we wanted her opinion we would have asked her husband or her pastor.
Ilikestyx
Like 30 million or more Americans literally believe in this rapture shit and that Israel / middle-east wars will trigger the end-times. Pete Hegseth is one of those believers....
TheElliotPage
at least Trumpy doesn't care about religion; he just hocks "Bibles"
Nebel01
it could trigger the end times, they are right on that, it just that it not gonna be anything divine, just dumb monkeys nuking themselve out of existence over fairy tales
aegis27
I cannot imagine the sheer conceit of believing in an omnipotent, omniscient deity, and somehow also believing that you can compel this deity to act on your own schedule by manufacturing a series of events listed in a prophecy. Like God is nothing more than a series of if/and statements.
foreverinchains
What's the point of being god if every run-down schmuck with a two-dollar prayer book can come along and fuck up your plan?
Sorrontis
I just hope the rapture takes all the fucking idiots so we can actually have a future
therealalansmithee
We joke that when the Rapture happens no one will notice.
vwzzjxv6f9101
The rapture already happened you’re now living in hell.
shalafi71
Yet the Bible explicitly states, in more than once place, that no one can know when Jesus will return. Just posted the chapter and verses.
TheElliotPage
does... the Bible know it's not real...? 'cause...
Trisar
The point is that the book they're claiming to follow explicitly days man will not know the day, and these chucklefucks keep saying they know the day or are going to make ot happen.
FelonyRaptor
USA should have some war in their country sometimes, huh?
foreverinchains
Like, as a treat?
FelonyRaptor
Sure, but also as a lesson. Pretty fucked up they're always going to war even though nobody ever attacks them on their soil.
stumblinforward
Religion is worse, cancer is treatable.
akmck
Yep. The zealots need radiation therapy- about 20 kilotons ought to do it.
Andersen81
Nah, just a quick blink of the demon core, give them a screwdriver and tell them to go look for god.
PredictablySilly
I mean... religion is treatable too. Deconstruction is a thing, it's just a treatment that will make you lose your self identity and often your family a support network.
stumblinforward
An individual can be freed from there shackles, but the chains will always be there to snare the next fool.
razorsharpdoubleedgedlegaldualmindblades
I guess all those other violent wars in the middle east weren't cool enough for Jesus. Surely this time christians will be proven right
sneakolai
That's the fun part. The Bible says there will be "wars and rumors of wars," and that no one knows the date of the Second Coming, and yet...
foreverinchains
At what point in history has there not been "wars and rumors of wars"?
Oh, literally never?
Like, not for a moment in human history?
Oh, right.
sneakolai
Right. I understand this as going alongside the inability to precisely predict, because conflict is constant. I'd have to re-read to see if there is any context of scale.
foreverinchains
I can save you some time.
There is not.
shalafi71
1 Thessalonians 5:2 "For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night." Matthew 24:36...
shalafi71
..."But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only." I hit a Christian with that, mass confusion.
Jyzzzy
I was about to ask that. Isn't claiming you know what's god's plan literally blasphemy?
Hatlled
They act like god is their bitch. If, IF there was a god, they should have been turned to soup by now.
scrumbles666
Kinda? That's some messy theological stuff, though. But this particular kind of Christian Millenarianism is super blasphemous in a lot of ways, so...
shalafi71
Young coworker I hit that with was at a loss for words. "Those are the literal words of Jesus Christ, and YOU know better? People in his time thought he was coming back for them. 2,000 years later, what makes your times so special?" Not as combative as it sounds, good convo. Felt sorry for the guy, just got out of prison on bullshit charges, dad would fire him and disown him from the family fortune if he didn't go to church and watch prosperity gospel. Sickening.
Hatlled
Which is more important- money, or your own personal freedom?
shalafi71
Ask the kid who stands to lose a literal fortune and his family to boot. Poor guy had clear PTSD from a year in the clink, he was a fucking wreck, nervous and scared shitless, didn't know how to act or speak socially. I've never been in such shoes.
VerySmallDuck
Hatlled
Sorry- but lack of action is complicity, jeebus.
PredictablySilly
Why is he white?
Well, I guess it makes sense, since the Jesus that they are talking about it white Jesus...
Hatlled
Someone should slap him so hard, he turns another color.
PredictablySilly
Jesus seemed like a great advocate for the people... it's his hypocritical supposed followers that need to be slapped
I say this as an atheist who has read the bible and gone to church
Hatlled
I used to go to church, and I also read the whole bible. What happened with me was a lifetime of pure psychological hell- and jesus did nothing to help at all. Still hasn't.
PredictablySilly
I'm sorry for your pain.
As an atheist I don't believe that Jesus has the power to do anything. He was just a person who told people to stop being shitty... and he's been dead a really long time.
CloudyTime
This kind of apocalyptic thinking is so terrifying. Just completely checked out from other’s suffering because “None of this matters, my holy book told me it’s paradise time!”
Eyeetsass
It’s so much easier than thinking. That’s what makes a conservative.
ATLandNerdy
Nobody with a planning horizon within their lifetime should be in charge of long term planning, no matter what the reason.
HoneNathan
We were too harsh on those preachers who got thier cult followers to drink poisoned coolaid to reach paradise. It weeded out people like this.
ElectricLeprechaun
I've seen this movie before https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Disappointment
StellarJay77
And these are the same type of people who are driven to seek positions of power so they can make it happen faster... and way too many people let them get into those positions too.
allenvasher3000
Can they jus suicide them selves so the rest of can get fixing everything
stayingalive4life
I, for one, am willing to chip in the dollar fifty to buy them their kool-aid.
Scobragon
Early Christianity had a huge problem with suicides for early paradise, so they added the suicide clause to thou shalt not murder. Can't have the masses you're trying to control just die off.
Khanamana324
Yep, can’t have the marks offing themselves en masse, that’d really fuck up the con.
foreverinchains
Their book also says that suffering is a good thing, and that the more you suffer, the closer you are to god or some such bullshit. They want people to suffer, as long as it's not them.
This is why Mother Theresa was such a fucking monster. She didn't help the poor, she just let them suffer and die out of sight of the public.
Christianity is an absolutely vile death cult.
Religion is poison.
Sorrontis
yep
shehdbeuebw738373
But dry they personally ever suffer?? Someone not wishing them Merry Christmas is too much for them
JackieTreehornProductions
As soon as I started reading I was thinking oh I’m gonna reply with Mothere Theresa but then you included it. *chef kiss*
alcamar
Actually just reviewed this with my daughter because of some classwork (indirect, completely valid). Led to some good discussions on ability to manipulate the story around the verse.
That in particular was II Corinthians 12
IgnoreMeImProbablyDrunk
Ah, assuming you’re referring to verse 10.
alcamar
Probably so, focus was on 7-14 but couldn't recall which exactly correlated
foreverinchains
The more you're persecuted, the stronger your faith becomes.
The more you suffer, the more God likes you.
The more people tell you you're wrong, the more you know you're right.
It's just fucking sick bullshit meant to stop people from actually thinking about it.
Faith is gullibility rebranded.
Religion is poison.
alcamar
https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1N2s3bTRxa2dmNmd2dmR2a3RzeG1qZ2g0YTBpMGlzZjB4N2dmZTJ2diZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/RTfIwAFTKf9HDOI0cL/200w.webp
IgnoreMeImProbablyDrunk
Curious to know more about 2 Cor 12 now, care to share more about your discussion?
alcamar
Not really, private family discussion and this isn't the venue for long form discussions anyway
IgnoreMeImProbablyDrunk
Entirely fair, thank you for replying
scrumbles666
An atheist myself, but labeling all Christianity a vile death cult is kind of like saying iron is a warmongering element because it gets used for swords. Christianity, religion in general, is whatever people want it to be. These dealthcult morons aren't poisoned by faith; that's just the medium to express the common human traits of indifference to suffering, magical thinking, and believing that if they just set the table right, daddy will come back from that cigarette run this time.
foreverinchains
There are 40,000 sects of Christianity. All of them use the bible as the foundation of the religion.
Some of them ignore the really awful parts, but there is no version of Christianity that is not problematic.
People like you with this "not all Christians" nonsense only provide a smokescreen for the extremists, and you've done nothing to address any of the actual problems.
"I don't support slavery, genocide, misogyny, or the apocalypse, I just support an organization that does".
scrumbles666
Lol, not even remotely what I'm saying. Maybe try reading the words and thinking about what they mean, instead of just picking up on the 'this person isn't validating my opinion' vibes and launching into your prerecorded thought patterns for defenders of Christianity.
foreverinchains
Oh, sweetie.
Every Christian denomination is, in fact, a death cult. To claim otherwise is necessarily ignorant or dishonest; there is no third option.
You're trying to pretend that the problem isn't Christianity, but rather some corruption of the teachings of Jesus. To even say that means you don't know what Jesus actually taught.
I'm very sorry that you don't understand the topic you're trying to argue about, but that's your problem. Maybe read the book before arguing about what it says.
ThM1ck
No, stupid. Christianity SPECIFICALLY is LITERALLY a fucking death cult. The central figure sacrifices himself. Martyrdom is beatified. You must suffer and deny yourself your basic nature to recieve a reward that you can only recieve after death. All of existence is in preparation for a Cos.ic war where EVERYONE will die, one way or the other.
Nobody is dissing Christianity, they are OBSERVING it.
scrumbles666
Cool metaphysical nonsense there. If you ever figure out how to stop thinking like a religious person, come back for a chat.
ThM1ck
I'm an atheist, you fucking dunce. I'm describing the literal dogma of Christianity.
Are you fucking stupid, or something?