JuhoKarjalainen
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Who agrees?
Jul 14, 2016 6:36 PM
JuhoKarjalainen
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Dani30868
I don't mind these super high graphics games, they are just nicer than the old ones. Nothing original in these games.
FurryDJ
Minecraft.
pubbers
If this is rule 68 I REAAAAALLY want to know what 1-67 are!
smogswallowssuns
Just because it looks "retro" doesn't mean it's good.
Saratje
GAMING RULE #68b: Sacrificing graphics to prove a point won't make a better game either. Strike a balance and stay out of the uncanny valley
battlepants
Cataclysm DDA!
Munchman347
But it does promote 'immersion' and is usually associated with interesting, non-repetitive game play that doesn't need split second jumps...
BritishBatman
sure, but it doesn't make it worse either.
MrJeti
It does make a better game. It doesn't make it good.
BeastyBoysAreDoingItLive
How about judge every game individually instead of having a prejudice about it.
SgtThunderfistMD
I feel like having graphical limitations forced older games to have better gameplay, stories, etc.
Gudjon262
Mount & Blade anyone?
ReignOfError
Strictly speaking, if the only difference was graphics, I would say it absolutely does. Aesthetics are VERY important.
Hizoran
Gorgeous women are sometimes bitches and are bad in bed...still nice to look at
Felman
No one. No one agrees with you, OP. You're so unique. Your parents must be so proud.
DABAFF
People who complain about graphics are stupid, I wanna have fun, graphics are a bonus
FaceDownButtUp
I just wish consoles wouldn't hold back all the graphics. Well my pc is old and I don't have money so it's good for me right now but anyway
YeaNo
Only a retard would think like that in the first place
Sasuhol
Undertale
Jacobrain1987
I would love to see SMB remastered with todays graphics just to see what it would like.
TheManFromIdaho
Every "?" box would be a micro transaction and they would upscale the game to 1080p.
pikakid24
Yup. But the opposite is also true
darkprincess0212
Agreed! But I'm a Nintendo junkie sooooo...
RozzAMcGee
Define 'better'
FIrecharge44371
the amount of fun you have
IronicUsername
Everybody agrees. You KNOW everybody agrees...
celestedrake
Why do you think he posted it?
tomatocm
Stalker for example
filthytank
I laughtlat people who log 3k hours on a single player team like skyrim, then I look at my COP playtimd
Axelord
Sure. Modern 'pretty graphics' are ugly too. Really, fuck sepia and bluetoning everything! Fuck you, devs. Stop it.
avocado4
WHAT?! ARE YOU SAYING CAUSATION DOES NOT IMPLY CORRELATION?!
everythingisalieexceptthestuffthatisnt
Uuuh, but causation does imply correlation. Do you mean correlation doesn't imply causation?
avocado4
i did, i was hasty in my caps-lock comment and wrong. thanks for the correction.
everythingisalieexceptthestuffthatisnt
Sorry to be that guy lol
BeRad117
I consider graphics to be an important part of judging a game but only based more on what it's supposed to represent.
pikmints
Graphics can have a huge impact, but it's better for the art style to be cohesive. If Super Mario Bros was realistic it would be much worse.
ICantThinkOfAU
Exactly, we've been trying to say for years that games are an art form, then all the hipster gamers say "Don't be a gfx whore"... Are 1/2
MrJeti
Ikr, it does make a better game. It doesn't make it good..
ICantThinkOfAU
they not part of the art? Better gfx may not mean better gameplay, but great gameplay AND gfx is better than great gameplay and shit gfx 2/2
BeRad117
"hipster gamers" no, it's more like angry kids trying to justify their purchases.
ICantThinkOfAU
It was hipster gamers back around '06-'10 (that's when I remember people shouting about graphics whores all the time) when games like 1/2
ICantThinkOfAU
Crysis and Gears of War were coming out, the hate was unbelievable for anything that looked good for a few years after the 360 came out 2/2
ICantThinkOfAU
Also if it looked shit like utter shit and you pointed that out? Not a valid criticism. Just streams of "gfx whore"
avalone
Kyllä!
JuhoKarjalainen
Näin se vaa on!
avalone
Aavistuksen myöhässä toi sun kommentti :D
JuhoKarjalainen
No ei kai se haittaa
avalone
No ei kai.
FluffyKittyLover
Worse graphics also does not mean better gameplay.
ArcaneM37
Yeah I wish Papers, Please had gotten this message. Great game, but the pixels are countable, and it kills me.
HookerinaHandbasket
Idk man last I remember Gold/silver ran at 60 fps and had shit tons of content
Mack1986
Yeah. Fucking indi games are starting to piss me off. Like looking for a needle in piles of 4.99 shit
CR4ZYM4N
Detail makes a game better, take Limbo or Inside for example
theunicorninyourkitchen
Take THAT Undertale
Baromian
Super Nintendo has that sweet spot smooth colorful and able to produce some detail
thegreenknight7
Yea, just ask superman 64.
saus695
TURTLEWAX1
I'm playing RE 4 and am loving it
Devante
Yeah we're to THAT point.
juststout
I have to... *poorer* graphics...
Dani30868
Also.
ThoughtfulTortuga
But if a game is famous and has bad graphics, you know it's going to be quality.
Roserapaine
Not... exactly...
FluffyKittyLover
Undertale says hi, shitty graphics and gameplay and its popular....
sup3rk1r8y
No wonder you suck at playing video games
FluffyKittyLover
0_0
andyar
Unless they don't put effort into gameplay, because pretty graphics are easier to sell in tv ads.
maelthra
Why was there even a need to say this? "Long-haired cats are often the source of allergens." "YOU CAN BE ALLERGIC TO SHORT-HAIRED CATS TOO."
GunArm
But better graphics often means worse gameplay when it comes out of a framework and used in substitute of game design.
tomhailmahon
You right.
CynicalClinicalWalrus
You left.
PewPewGuy
You up
IPoisonedDorcasMutton
I guess it becomes my duty to say, you down.
BridgetoTerabithiawasshit
And "Classic" or "Original" does not mean better than future instalments. I'm looking at you, melee fanboys.
andyar
Whoa, whoa, whoa. New smash bros aren't even close to the original, the N64 original.
seije
melee definitely has some problems, but at least it doesn't punish movement (tripping in brawl) or reward making mistakes (rage in s4). 1/2
seije
that said, i get very bored of melee's fox/falco only. i think that the middle builds for PM was probably the closest i've seen to ideal 2/2
IllegalDuckling
Worse graphics and gameplay does not mean worse music, story and immersion...
IllegalDuckling
This doesn't make sense, does it?
IllegalDuckling
What was playing in my head was more like "A game with bad graphics AND gameplay can still be amazing."
ElectricPickle
FUCKIN MINECRAFT!
Mormole
Minecraft is an amazing game. Personally It does not fit me but it's a every well made game
TheHappySoul
I wouldn't call it "Amazing" It's good and well made but it's no legend.
GingerFide
It's pretty legendary. It rocked the industry for quite a while and is still kicking.
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TheHappySoul
Minecraft was IMO successful because it gave it's target audience nearly exactly what they wanted in a polished work. It was simply fun.
NeverBlameMe
HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN TETRIS THEN? But seriously, that shit is addicting.
Dystakruul
Better graphics would not influence the gameplay in any way
Dystakruul
But when playing e.g. a shooter, better/worse graphics might have an impact on gameplay
Dystakruul
...while other games profit from simple, minimalistic graphics and therefore do not need high-res.
Koztah
Tetris had good graphics when it was released initially, in 1984.
simonard
Watch this: https://youtu.be/WPQFeMRXwmg?t=1h35m18s
NeverBlameMe
This is whole new fucking lvl of tetris.
Hasheth
NeverBlameMe
Have you ever played Tetris Friends by any chance?
Hasheth
I've never even heard of this. I had a handheld Tetris in high school that I got really damn good at but that is a new name to me.
Timexican
Tetris originally released in 1984. At the time 8-bit graphics were cutting edge.
FaceDownButtUp
Simple mechanics, skills change outcome, randomization.. Yep, it's addicting even on paper. That's why minecraft is addicting too!
GeneralBlox1234
A lot of games are good. Toxic communities just ruin them.
UndeadDickCheney
Like pokemon go, you have no idea how many kids teeth I've knocked in to keep the charnanders to mysrlf
Hannya
Actually sometimes it does. The more graphically intense a game becomes, the harder the gameplay is to actually develop.
Hannya
'The Order 1886' for example. When a game becomes so graphically advanced, more of the budget has to be assigned to art over design/prog.
Hannya
Whereas something like Shovel Knight, while a smaller budget, it's far cheaper to build up mechanics and levels.
Rawcal
Someone obviously has no clue how game development works.
Hannya
Actually it's what I do for a living. But you can make assumptions.
Rawcal
It's what i do for living as well, and if you know what you are doing you don't couple visuals to mechanics too tightly it limits mechanics.
Hannya
more intense graphics = more expensive, slower art = smaller worlds/higher budgets.
Hannya
When a game's graphical quality is lower, then you can get more quantity out. Or spare more money for more focus on gameplay.
FluffyKittyLover
The comment is about shit games like undertale and shovelknight trying to recapture an era.
Hannya
Metacritic reviews: Undertale - 92%/8.2. Shovel Knight - 90%/7.6%. Both won multiple awards. They're not shit games. You just dislike them.
Hannya
And you're not intelligent enough to tell the difference.
FluffyKittyLover
Justin Bieber makes a lot of money, still shit music :p
Hannya
I linked reviews. Both from critics and users. Money and Reviews? Two different things. COMPLETELY unrelated.
Hannya
Life must be hard for you.
wotemer
The one thing hipster gamers dont realize...
spookyu
I can't stand indie games. I get it, I really do, they're unique, sometimes have decent stories, hard work went into them..but usually awful
rootedoak
There's only been a few good AAA games in the last ten years. Several good indie games on the other hand. Some were even kickstarters.
wotemer
3 Witcher, 2 Elder Scrolls, 3 Batman, 2 Mirrors Edge, 3 Fallout, 3 Mass Effect, 3 Bioshock, 4 Far Cry etcetcetc. You argument is invalid
rootedoak
They're just high budget dumpster clones of the same game. Nothing quality.
Hannya
"Here's a huge generalization!" - Spookyu 2016.
spookyu
"Here's a tired imgur trope." - Hannya 2016
wobbu
I think you mean indie games, and they have "bad" graphics because they are typically made by 1 or 2 people.
EmuMoogle
No, they have "bad" graphics because they're too cheap to hire an artist, and try to pass it off as "retro!" or "16-bit!"
wobbu
too cheap to hire an artist because it's a project done by a single person in their spare time or with an extremely small budget lol
NotHarroc
Thats a bullshit response. There are plenty of amazing looking games with decent gameplay made by 1 or 2 people. Papers Please for one.
wobbu
Really... Amazing looking? I think it looks functional and it suits the game, but I would not say "amazing."
Smoag
I like pixel art..
Zorxoge
They aren't the prettiest graphics, but they're beautiful in the sense of how well they fit the game.
oneandonleeroy
Are you a Mops? If so....*Kommunistenfaust
PlesiosaurWithElementsOfAnIdeaOfTheLochNessMonsterBoy
You're confusing bad graphics with stylized graphics there's a difference.
crookednixon
There's indie games which are limited because of small teams. Then there's hipster games that TRY to be "different" and lose sight of "good"
WhyNotUncleIroh
Like any interactive narrative that actually has no gameplay. Like firewatch. Interesting narrative. Boring excuse for a game.
wobbu
Also not very indie
Pilsburybane
Like Fez
YourLordCthulhu
I actually loved FEZ personally (though i can see why someone wouldn't)...Shame the dev was the largest asshat the world's ever known.
Hannya
Fez was an indie game. Phil Fish was a bit of a nob, but it was still an indie game.
TheMemeForge
Or mighty no9