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TheLinkMaster
I thought BF1 was a sign of EA getting better, now it looks like the last decent game they will ever make.
DrMardini
Indie developers still make good single player games, I use gog a lot. Lots of good stuff there
zeroofshadow
man its almost as if this is such a small population of games out there, and most, if not all of it is benign microtransations.
ImHereToGetDownvotes
I can't remember the last time I bought a game, and this is pretty much the reason why. I'm tired of cut corners added in as paid DLC.
TheSteamWolf
Incredulous amount of money, eh?
TheShire
Thank you... I had to scroll so far to find someone that had an issue with that lol
PrfctDrk
Steam reviews have your back. Have no fear, "OVERWHELMINGLY NEGATIVE" is here!
Andalite
I like Shadow of War. You're not pushed to buy anything at any point. And it's not in your face like other games would do it. I usually
Andalite
forget that you can even buy anything most of the time
Lonelyheartpoet
Hate EA so much. My all time favorite company is hopefully not in their killing list: Bioware.
MrPietorian
Sorry bud but they gunning for them with andromeda
Icra
Get Wolfenstein.
Truefacted
Getting back into Fallout 4 after launch the creation club doesn't bother me. Below that option is regular mods on Xbone and there's (1/2)
Truefacted
Thousands for free. The only thing that annoys me is the 2gb total mod limit but it's forced creators to get more creative with space (2/2)
LikeTotallyNotTheNSA
Try survival mode, never appreciated how lush the environment was.
Truefacted
I'm playing with a few mods on to make the game harder and it's a genuine nightmare.
iksworbeZ
I did my part! I just bought Wolfenstein 2 and so should you.... bruh, it doesn’t even HAVE a multiplayer
Nighthawk30
Yet you all would start bitching if they raised the base price of games, which would help alleviate the micro transaction some
KAbNeaco
this, 1000x this. games cost money to make.
Rystefn
Don't be naive. Games aren't exactly losing money. With no microtransactions and no DLC bullshit, they'd still be rolling in the cash.
natepel1989
I’m so far behind that by the time I get to a game it has a collected version of all the content.
tarataqa
cheers to that
Smith3402
The only way to buy SP games is the year after they release when the DLC inclusive version comes out. Elder Scrolls and Far Cry Day one tho
strugglesnuggler
Having bought and played shadow of war. Microtransactions made absolutely no fucking difference because it's a single player game.
strugglesnuggler
Well passive multiplayer, but seriously, I had so much money at the end I could just buy 50 of the silver chests in a pop.
strugglesnuggler
What pissed me off is that there were no folders or organization options in your garrison.
hadadrumstickandmybrainisstillstuck
I fear this combined with developers going after the e-sports market. Is going to destroy SP games.
BluePaladin42
Lots of indie games are picking up the slack though. Not that indies are all priceless treasures, but they got some good stuff.
tarataqa
As a SP gamer, I'm not worried.
andrathor
The single player genre, there are tons of single player games and more to come. What's dead is the co-op genre.
ElJefeLives
Idk, Cuphead seems to be a good sign for co-op
iamjackscompletelackofcompassion
Incredulous
risiblewilbury123456
Go play deus ex. Or hotline miami. Or enderal. Or stardew valley. Check steam for sp titles.
GodLikeButHumble
Mankind divided has microtransactions, though.
risiblewilbury123456
necessary? no. so ignore them. like everyone else
whitetip107
+1 for enderal goddamn that was a good game
aptatlas
Hey guess what Shadow of War didn’t require you to buy loot boxes.
kojenk
Everything about that game's mt system screams "experiment for future insidious plans"
BiWheeler
it shouldn't even be in the game
terribleinternetpunsfirstborn
But they ALWAYS have an impact on game design. The entire system is designed to psychologically bludgeon you into buying more
magoslich
Justifying it in that fashion only encourages it. Loot boxes should no place whatsoever in a SP game.
itsYiyas
Then why are they allowed in MP games? For starters its underage gambling made popular by streamers in CSGO.
magoslich
Because nobody wants to regulate them like gambling yet. Supposedly the UK had something in the works regarding it.
itsYiyas
There was an update this morning actually - items that could be sold on might be considered gambling but there's little traction otherwise
itsYiyas
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/201300?reveal_response=yes
magoslich
Same publisher also tried to charge for DLC of a character based on one of their employees who died of cancer. Despicable.
MrPietorian
They still need to pay the employees who designed that dlc
magoslich
The employees did it as a tribute to their friend who died. It isn't uncommon to do in games. Why should the publisher get to charge $5 per?
TheManWith5GoldFingersJaimeLannister
It was meant to go to a fund for the family. But a bunch of reasons made that impossible so they dropped it and put it in the game for free.
magoslich
Correction, a portion of the proceeds would go to his family, but only on sales in most of the US and not beyond. Profit was involved.
aerodynamit3
Nintendo is doing ok. Worst they do is file dmca claims. Still make amazing single player games too.
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SpenderOfTender
I was wrong I apologise
magoslich
That really doesn't matter terribly much. Nintendo still consistently remembers that games have to be fun. That is why they still profit.
SirThanksalot1
Because that's what matters, right? Not the quality or gameplay of games, it's gotta be 4k or bust?
KAbNeaco
Game prices haven't adjusted with inflation rates for a while, would it be better to have no micro-transactions and $100 games?
Rystefn
You mean the $100+ games we actually have, because most $60 games are a fraction of a complete game?You're defending the people scamming you
IllCaesar
Wages for employees aren't going up, just other development costs.
Tea1earl1grey1hot
I agree but single player games aren't dead. Horizon zero dawn, nier automata, the lost legacy, pyre, so many good single player games!
magoslich
I found some extra lore for Nier earlier today and it fucked me up all over again. Spoilers: https://mintychu.dreamwidth.org/tag/script
Tea1earl1grey1hot
I'm hesitant to read it. It already destroyed my Will to live just playing the game
magoslich
It is a happy ending...of sorts. The sorrow is the good kind, the cathartic kind that makes you appreciate things all the more.
magoslich
Have you gotten all the serious endings? (A through E)
ChaosxNetwork
The Witcher 3 laughs at your negative outlook and I played through all of Shadow of War without even knowing where to go to buy loot stuff.
itsYiyas
If you buy orcs I think you'd lose interest in the game rapidly. The game is balanced to play without them.
ChaosxNetwork
Let people who want that shit pay for it and those who don't go somewhere else with their money.
flufflogic
Horizon: Zero Dawn. Prey. Yakuza 0. Persona 5. Zelda BOTW. All this year, all microtransaction free, all great. Support them!
anakhasilver
BotW has DLC, tho, with no end to it in sight.
Kazzle
Botw only has the same kind of dlc that Nintendo games have always had. It's what DLC should be.
karlbadmanners
HOLLOW KNIGHT
Wakelessparabol
I'm so glad Yakuza is catching on. Kawami just came out and 6 will be out soon. I have 6 on my Japanese account and it's insane.
Micah408
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rdeyles
Plus Dishonored 2
JalkiaJattamattaVoiPiestaIhmistaHelposti
Don't forget Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy, which gets bonus points for being cheaper than most triple A games today.
skelitor120
I don't think we should give huge praise to literal reboots on older franchises. Not that the game isn't great, but if we're using them--
skelitor120
-- as examples that the game industry is still healthy, then we'll see a LOT more Battlefield 32s, COD 50s, Halo 67s and Assassin Creedses.
magoslich
Check out Nier Automata if you haven't already. Also a really solid game and vindication for Yoko Taro and his work imo.
shadolance
I hadn't changed my top 10 games list in 10+ years, but Nier:Automata took #2 immediately, P5 took #4.
magoslich
It was so wonderful to see what Taro could do when paired with a powerhouse like Platinum. I hope they make more together.
MrMcCookieMuffin
I'm 10 hours in and so far it's amazing... I've never played a JRPG(?) before either so it's all new to me
magoslich
It doesn't quite fall into usual JRPG elements, though it does have some. Big thing is don't think you are done the first time credits roll.
magoslich
there are 26 endings, 5 of which are serious story endings (21 joke endings you'll run across) It is a great journey though!
Wakelessparabol
He's right there's no great single player games anymore. Zelda botw, Witcher 3, Horizon Zero Dawn, Metal Gear Solid 5, those don't count.
itsYiyas
Even then, Shadow of War is a good game. Same with Mankind Divided which had MTs. Its easy to be righteous but MTs dont do anything to SP.
magoslich
Nier Automata was incredible
IllCaesar
An irrationally multiplayer-averse publisher, a studio that pays half the wages of US studios, pass, and Konami is leaving the industry. 1/2
IllCaesar
Not badmouthing any of them necessarily. They're just very far from the norm. H:ZD is really the only particularly good example there. 2/2
CyborgScribe
MGSV was alright. I didn't actually finish it tho. Horizon was pretty cool. The others are from franchises I don't play.
ElJefeLives
It was a good 200 hours for me. Got to 70% completion before I decided to move on to another game.
CyborgScribe
Actually, I did play Witcher 2 but I didn't like it much. Although I hear 3 is better.
SirThanksalot1
"There are no great single player games anymore. All these single player games I listed do not count, just because." What?
bad52292
Sarcasm is hard
iseeadultnipple
Half of the games you mention are from 2015.
Wakelessparabol
South Park fractured but whole, The Surge, Evil Within 2, cuphead, shadow of War, Outlast 2 and Assassin's Creed Origins
Wakelessparabol
Also hell-blade, that game was amazing.
smileyhat
Persona 5,Nier Automata,Cuphead,Divinity Original Sin 2,Nioh,XCOM 2 expansion, Mario/Rabbids. Wolfenstein 2 and Mario Odyssey are promising.
iseeadultnipple
But don't get me wrong witcher 3 is one of my favorites right up there with dark souls I just don't like how far this is getting.
smileyhat
It's bad, certainly. It just helps to remember that it's a small number of companies doing it to relatively few high-profile games.
smileyhat
If those last two pan out to be as good as they look, that's almost one great single player experience per month this year.
Elroydb
Most of these are Triple A titles. Many more offerings if you dive into indie developers
Wakelessparabol
Persona 5 was so damn good
smileyhat
I agree. That and Nier are definitely my games of the year so far - hard to pick which I like more than the other.
Gazonito
And no new 3D Mario in sight... Switch doesnt sell anyway.
SirThanksalot1
So we're just gonna forget that Odyssey is happening this Christmas? Yeah? Okay then.
Wakelessparabol
It's happening this Friday
geekachuqt
It's happening the day after tomorrow, actually.
SirThanksalot1
Oh, that early? Neat, thought they'd be waiting for the Christmas sales to kick in.
IUpvoteLOTRMemes
All old games. I just bought the witcher 3. That game bores the shit out of me. Its like a less crappy dynasty warriors. Gwent ftw though.
BluePaladin42
Botw came out this year?!
kindofacat
You aren't alone friend
SkeetSkeets
Christ its either you like something over popularised and it goes unnoticed or you dont and people go through 19 accounts downvoting you.
JohnnyDeformed
Valve gave up making Half Life 3 a long time ago, bub. Nothing about that changed in 2017.
misfit119
I guess they feel that the writer of HL2 releasing a story synopsis of the planned HL3 story was the final nail. Glad it never happened.
IRMETUL
There was something of a final confirmation though earlier this year, when an old employee spoiled the storyboard
Florky
From what I have heard with the amount of hype they have it will always be a disappointment so why do it.
TheFlyingSheep
To give closure
SaintOfYorkshire
We got the story leak that is pretty much the best we'll get, it's bittersweet. Laidlaw gave the best ending to thw story IMO.
BluePaladin42
Because ending on a cliffhanger and then telling your players to fuck off is kind of a shit thing to do, really.
suydamtheman
Dota 2 has been the most profitable game for them for years now. And its Free...
JackCornsby
Not to mention addictive.
suydamtheman
6k hours here....
TiGRIOSindustriesRnD
"Free." Shelling out $60 for heroes and boosts is still buying the Kool-Aid.
Dirtyshawnchez90
Retard
suydamtheman
Thats LOl not DOTA
danielklausen
I think you are thinking of LOL or heroes of the storm m8... not dota2, dota2 is a free game.
aninjanamedwaldo
What are you even talking about?
EarlGreyOrDeath
You have to pay for heros now?
GutsFromBerserk
No, think he's just talking about buying cosmetic stuff.
MinnesotaTom
You've never played a game of dota 2 in your life.
TiGRIOSindustriesRnD
If these replies are the general community attitude towards mistakes or lack of knowledge, I don't think I'd want to play.
Orkimond
Noone was rude mate. You were shooting your mouth off about a game you knew nothing about abd people were just correcting you.
MinnesotaTom
You're just salty someone called you out for posting bullshit. You chose to spout off ignorantly. Suffer the fallout.
ratchet3789
This is where Indies come in. Kick-start and back as much as you can, support publishers like TinyBuild and Devolver as they help small...
Christopharx
Fuck Indie games, fuck kick-start. That's another way for companies to sell promises and check out before it's complete.
Zantek2
Ayy, Devolver. They had a hand in Enter the Gungeon. Love that game.
HadMeSomeChickens
Love me some Devolver
vapology
I've backed so many on kickstarter and indie-gogo. Of the 30+ I backed, only 2 were quality releases. Everspace and Earthlock
MasterOfSpaghettiCode
Don't forget the freeware devs who contribute their own valuable time to create and maintain sometimes exceptionally complex awesome games!
Guidocat
Remember back when everyone had a Nintendo but there was a smaller PC game market of really cool stuff? 1/2
Guidocat
The indie market is like the PC market from 1998. Small teams making great stuff that doesn't need to make a billion dollars. 2/2
ThePickle
The Forest is awesome and gets better every month or so
9GAGTechnicalSupport
Sometimes they get bought by big companies so then it gets more complicated
ratchet3789
It does and ita fair enough, game development is expensive. Unfortunately when you want to work full time in it and get bought out...
ratchet3789
You have to do what the big CEOs want you to do, just the way it goes unfortunately
Freakingdoomguy
Remember where gonna be getting a system shock reboot
ratchet3789
We are, NightDive are an amazing team and I'd do anything to work with or for them. They're also bringing back a lot of old games
Freakingdoomguy
I never got to play the original ones but I really love s good horror game, so I'm hyped
ratchet3789
They're both on GOG and the 2nd is on Steam with a modern FPS keyboard layout and 16:9 resolutions
ratchet3789
Coop is so much fun
thisistheguy
They gotta be successful first, the banjo kazooie remake looks terrible
ThereWasNoMovieMadeFromOurShow
Team Cherry did great with their Hollow Knight, and they have been giving free expansions in some of their updates.
magoslich
I was stupendously impressed with Hollow Knight. Bought it on a lark when it was on sale and was worth every penny and more.
dashers
Meh, look at Elite. That has DLC and microtransactions.
ratchet3789
Elite Dangerous is not an Indie game. Theh may be independent developers but they have ungodly amounts of money behind them and...
ratchet3789
Had previously worked for Atari. They were a massive part of a lot of 20/30 year olds childhoods. I wouldn't call them indie at all
dashers
Well, they used Kickstarter and self published. Not sure what else makes you independent.
ratchet3789
Teams push their games into the marketplace.
TheDudeElDuderino
Was going to say that. The best experiences I've had are with $20 indie games. They'll go to niche genres AAA devs. would never explore.
Keicars
I'll keep buying older games then. San Andreas is a fucking masterpiece and everybody knows it.
TheDudeElDuderino
braveboy510
Sorry, man. I have seen too few indie games come to fruition from alpha. I will wait until they have a full game, then pay.
Satherian
Actually, I just base it off if the game looks fun to play right now. Means I don't get disappointed if it falls through
TheFrypo
that's the way you're supposed to do it. Buying it after release is the important support part
ratchet3789
Actually before release is just as important. Our team had to disband as the game was costing us almost 5,000 a week and we were all working
ratchet3789
For free. Subcontracted artists and friends who worked on the cheep and we still had to just shut the doors...
skelitor120
Except then the indies kill their own shit too. Alpha builds that never get finished, overhyping and straight-up lying about features
Volcanuz
Or like Bluehole(PUBG creator) and add crates to your game..
Ragionier
The fucking game is not even officially out,come the fuck on
Volcanuz
Yep. It is pretty annoying. It is part the reason why hackers are flooding the game atm coz they can make irl cash off in game time.
ratchet3789
Blowhole aren't Indie, theyre just as greedy as Activision or EA.
tzxAzrael
lmao Kickstarter... and how many "super amazing games with the best talent" have simply gone vaporware with no sign of the money?
ratchet3789
A lot, which is fair enough but game dev is expensive. Some teams shut down due to losses and some work with publishers like Devolver
DEATHHHHH
GET BOMBER CREW!
Luxaeus
Dead by Daylight is by a nice small company. Only microtransactions are skins and 2 minor expansions for 5 bucks. Devs are very open.
Muffyns
But pysonix does microtrash tooo
ProbablyDrunkAgain
"Mom won't let me have her CC so I can get a sombrero for my car like my friends so MT is bad" - this person
UseTheForceLuke
At least it’s aesthetics and not pay-to-win - and Rocket League is super cheap vanilla. But you are still 100% right.
Mirawatts
But I just want more storyline inside the Elder Scrolls universe. I'm about to pay $30 for ESO and play it alone.
ratchet3789
Go to Humble Bundle it's on this Month's monthly bundle for $12 usd
SlyReflex
I played most of that alone. It's doable. Train your mount, even before you get one. Thank me later.
SirThumbPick
It's definitely doable. I did it for months, but then I found a social guild that made the game more enjoyable. If you'd like, you can 1/2
SirThumbPick
2/2 PM me for a guild invitation on Xbox. For me, the MMO aspect of ESO has been just as rewarding, if not more so, than the RPG part.
Mirawatts
I've played Tera Online and WoW with my best friends, but I hated the gameplay. MMOs are not for me. Also I'm on PC, thanks anyway.
aether11
I'm also considering buying it to play alone, it sounds like there's a lot of cool history in it
SirThumbPick
There is. You get to play in the age before the other TES games and experience some of the world's history firsthand. I love it. I played 1/
SirThumbPick
2/ alone for a long time, but I've come to really enjoy the social aspect of it as well. If you decide you want to join a guild (and you
SirThumbPick
3/ play on Xbox), you're welcome to PM me for a guild invitation.
SolaireSB
I don't care that much if the micro transactions are just cosmetic but when it gives you the edge or changes gameplay then it's bullshit.
SolaireSB
I haven't bought myself a new game in a while because of it I have destiny 2 because a friend bought it for me as a late birthday gift.
LittleDutch
That was merely a stepping stone. Just to see how far they can take it. And guess what? They are going even further.
terribleinternetpunsfirstborn
I disagree, but I thoroughly look forward to next year when I'll be able to say "man, do you remember when they used to be only cosmetic?"
hihellobyeoh
Don't tell the guy in the post about Activision's recent copyright/trademark
PaliQ
A little app game I play has characters you buy during special events, but everything else is accessible in-game if you just work for it.
Billis75
Activision just got the patent to pair people with performance-improving micro with players who don't have it to get them to buy it.
nerdbridge
Agreed!
mbos14
I think cosmetic DLC's or microtransactions are a great way for companies to make the extra money to make a profit.
Rystefn
They are rolling in the cash. This is not at all needed to make a profit.
ObiWankChernobyl
They make record profits though.
Florky
What do you think of warframe? Where is basicly pay to skip grind and wait time?
FactCheckerExtraordinaire
IMO, anything goes in free games. Though Dota did make it work with purely cosmetic upgrades.
terribleinternetpunsfirstborn
It seems to me like you're just paying to not play the game. If I wanted to not play the game, I'd just do the free version and not play it
PantsuOnHeadRetarded
im pretty ok with that because it doesnt affect other players just you, and as thats all the game has going for it, it just lowers your time
Florky
Ok because I like that game with enough time you can get all of the stuff in the game but one warframe as it was a beta exclusive.1/2
Florky
And I hope they give a good replacement for that exclusive one eventually. 2/2
TheseAreTheMemesYoureLookingFor
Excal Prime wont ever come out, but Excal Umbra might be relased to NA.
ButtblasterMcAssmaster
I was going to mention Warframe. Yes, you can spend money on cosmetics and to avoid grinding, but it's not necessary at all to play 1/2
ButtblasterMcAssmaster
2/2 the game and have fun. I haven't spent a penny on it and it's still great. I think it's a very good payment model.
MithridateEupator
If it's free otherwise, that is totally acceptable
DirectorBright
Warframe is free, buying weapons and Warframe with in game premium currency skips wait time on crafting or grinding. Can't buy primes and
DirectorBright
You have to level them up manually. Can also get premium currency via trading
Florky
Man some of the warfames that are vaulted get expensive tho last night I saw ember prime was being sold for 700 plat. Or it would be 1/2
Unfortunate2
Warframe is one of the best when it comes to micro transactions.
DouchebagDragonborn
Same here dude, everyone complains about dlc and want it free. Devs gotta do something to keep there employees payed so... microtransactions
Rystefn
You mean publishers got to milk you for every cent while not paying employees if they can possibly avoid it?
ObiWankChernobyl
Thats bullshit. Games industry keeps making record profits even without micros.
ObiWankChernobyl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qq6HcKj59Q not a legit sauce i know. tarmac just uploaded his thoughts on it with sauce
DouchebagDragonborn
Really now? I'd like some sauce for that please.
ObiWankChernobyl
major publishers keep making record sales and stocks keeps rising. it more than overweighs the increased cost of developing a AAA title
ObiWankChernobyl
do your own research (not meaning to be rude, but this feels to heavy of a subject for imgur comment section)
Sumpte
1) Cosmetic microtransactions were always a gateway to this, though. Plus if part of the gameplay loop includes gathering skins then it's
Sumpte
2) arguable that they are part of the experience.
PiGiSpi
I think people sort of bend what they think is "ok" just so they can justify Overwatch, despite it being fueled by the same greed
jogthejewelsquickly
Who cares about overwatch loot boxes that much? I'm a competitive player and I use the default skins still.
PiGiSpi
Unfortunately enough people that it's ridiculously lucrative :/ not that it excuses it of course
LoquaciousDude
It's not bending what you think is ok to say that buying purely cosmetic items in an already bought game is ok, while pay2win is not. 1/
LoquaciousDude
Those two things are different, I actually prefer games that have purchasable skins in them, this means the game continues to be 2/
inboxmeyourkitsunes
regardless of the game or the items, if it has lootboxes, and you can see on other players what is in the lootboxes, people will buy them
inboxmeyourkitsunes
this in turn ends up being way more exploitative than people realize, especially to those with gambling addictions
PiGiSpi
Exactly. I find them predatory and all around a horrific idea that'll just quicken the inevitable bubble pop
theRealZissou
Most triple A games micro’s are just that, cosmetic shit. So I’ve never had a reason to complain I guess.
ALittleScottishPenguinWithAGun
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MaladaptedMedic
EA has had non-cosmetic micros for a while.
TheGreenerGrey
Surprise surprise, EA fucks it up again. I have to wonder, do they ever listen to player feedback?
Uniqueusername77
What's "Player Feedback"?
TheActualMalloryArcher
Stop buying EAs games like the rest of us, then
MaladaptedMedic
Haven't bought an EA game in years. Not just because of their business tactics, I also don't really like their new games
SFMGifs
Toss in COD
OmenRider
but now they're going beyond cosmetic. See: Star Wars Battlefront 2
GozerTheGozerian
Eh... After having played the beta and experiencing how quick and easy it was to get loot boxes through matches alone, I don't really care(1
minkeymagik
You need to die in a fire
GozerTheGozerian
Nah, that sounds way too uncomfortable. But feel free to do so in my place.
GozerTheGozerian
anymore. It's identical to ME3 MP lootboxes, minus having to unlock classes. For me roughly 2 to 4 matches, I earned enough for a lootbox.(2
AwkwardCrying
2-4 matches in the beta is the equivalent to 300-600 credits which isn't close enough for one box.
GozerTheGozerian
How much you get and depending on what match you do also determines how much you get. Each box is 1k, each match in 40 I got 200+, and I (1
GozerTheGozerian
typically did pretty sub-par. Really, it's not that difficult to get a box, especially while fulfilling class achievements/goals. (2/2
slabaReactionSmuggler
It kills multiplayer for me too, I don't want to play with people who can just pay their way into all the best stuff
Sticklebrickk
360 noscope headshot from across the map. Pink hat and australium beard
AmArschdieRaeuber
Stop playing these games. Overwatch is fun, they don't have that. Only skins for money.
MustacheTheWhale
Over-watch is hugely responsible, showed a small full-price game MP only could still sell you skins through a gambling system.
uitSCHOT
I see a lot of noobs buy premium ships in world of warships. it's funny to see them not being able to play properly. unless they're my team
Abattage
WG's premium vehicle model always made me laugh. Usually the normal stuff was a better choice but you could save a lot of time with $$$.
eraser1
Unfortunately no longer the case, at least in WoT. *Tier 8 premium spam intensifies*
MountainYankee
Literally all of them were premium users, and we didn't catch one point for that game. After that I stopped Playing bf3
MountainYankee
I remember when battlefield 3 did this, playing op metro, attacking, we come up to the first point and an entire team of l86 mgs killed us..
heythatsmydog
It's killed couch co-op too. I can only play Borderlands with my husband so many times! *uncontrollable sobbing*
Tjitso
Yeah, I prefer good oldfashioned cheating too
DeusexNihilo
Boy will you be happy about Activision's patent for matchmaking which puts players with microtransaction items in advantageous matches
DefinitelyHungry
Path of exile and Dora are great cuz micro transactions don't really affect the game
aninjanamedwaldo
Modern cod in a nutshell. Can't even play CoD4 without running into some cunt with a gacha weapon
WelcomeToTheShatterdome
I stopped buying or playing games that operate this way.
WelcomeToTheShatterdome
I figure if I play a game that has those options I'll just earn things the hard way. I'm more proud of my work that way.
MustacheTheWhale
the sensible thing, however this does not stop the systemic issue, you support those games, developers will still have there prey 1/
MustacheTheWhale
they need to know that they will loose sales with these systems or they will only grow more entwined with design/game-play, hurting you
yougotbiggay
Play league with mee
YourBiologicalFatherWhoIsProud
Looking at you, GTA V
Nuratu
This is one of the reasons I sold my rig. The pay-for add-ons are a cancer.
SalsaCat
Yeah, I hate games that allow micro transactions to give you an edge in pvp.
CKOD
Play EVE Online, you can dump $5k into it, buy all the best shit, and still get fucking dumpstered because youre bad.
itsYiyas
I found these Russian players who would kind of do that - go mad on £300 ships just to try to PvP 2vGuild. Made me realise PvP is a bit 2D
CKOD
Just ran numbers, $5k is a bit high, titan pilot and a ship to go with it would run you $1300-$1500 if you went straight credit-card warrior
thecuttingedgeofcockingabout
IMO, this is why Rocket League is a success. You have loads of DLC that gives you no advantage when it comes to gameplay (except that the..
Shermanator92
To be fair, there’s not a crazy amount of DLC for rocket league. There’s a crap ton of free unlockables though!
thecuttingedgeofcockingabout
person who just scored on you with a half court reverse aerial volley that bounced off two walls is also driving the Batmobile.)
spacecowboyein
I like the league of Legends model. You don't need to spend money for an advantage in the game. Money is for purely cosmetic stuff
Ahobonamedslickback
LoL model was fucking terrible, DOTA 2 was a better model.
FindYourChillMate
And new champions no?
Wolvenlight
You can get new champions using in game points, but yes, you can also buy them with real money, so you have a point.
risiblewilbury123456
What games have that?
Jackraz
The new star wars battlefront 2 has loot boxes that effect things like damage health and accuracy. Thanks EA.
natus
Activision holds a patent for a system that pairs new players against players with better gear, but of same playstyle, encouraging p2w.
natus
http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/activision-just-got-a-video-game-patent-thats-straight-up-evil/
ThinkBackwards
Happened to me in neverwinter. Went into a 3man dungeon with someone who was kitted out in epic items at level 10, blazing through 1/
ThinkBackwards
While me and the others are trying to have fun.
koopaya
Any app game ever. I want a multiplayer mobile app game I can play anywhere, but virtually every stinking multiplayer game is pointless.
crashcar22
GTA, you can literally buy in game cash to buy better weapons/vehicles and upgrades for them
Combatmatt
You can spend $100 of real money, and buy 2 of the really expensive items... then you're done. Alternatively, you can grind for 4 weeks
GoofytheScot
Or you can dupe cars like i did :D
Combatmatt
Then get them taken away with no working way to do it again. I'm just pissed they fixed the way to customize new cars free
slabaReactionSmuggler
Battlefront, COD, Halo you name it
djml9
In CoD, you can pay for a chance to get different stuff. Variants give little advantage and you can get them for free if you just play.
UseTheForceLuke
Battlefield as well. Not surprising as it’s battlefront’s cousin.
EvenStevensEvenSemen
In Halo it's just Warzone
Swe3tJe3bus
Everyone gets about a billion of them and you still have to get kills to unlock them.
derock789
Cod is probably my most played out of the few you named and I can definitely say that those guns are far from the best in the game. 1/?
derock789
Like they're good but not game breaking good. They're all somewhat situational and anyone with decent aim can easily beat them. 2/2
somenerandom
I haven't played those titles recently- what kind of edge? Isn't there very little actual character customization there? You shoot a gun. >>
Node1112
In COD you can spend money on loot boxes that have unlockable guns in them that are different than the standard guns. Some are better
somenerandom
I'm curious and honestly asking, please englighten me.
iHateCat
I don’t think those were the best titles to say, the only benefit on some of those games I assume would be some sort of xp boost.
PantsuOnHeadRetarded
atleast in the battlefront 2 beta you could spend money day 1 to unlock things that would take F2P players weeks/months to earn and dominate
naruku
Yeah I think it's mostly really cool cosmetic stuff. Not like they give you the best weapons in the game that you can't get yourself. IThink
TheDarkSideOfTheMoonMoon
I can only speak for Halo but you can buy req packs that give you more access to legendary weapons that can be used in warzone (12v12)
ThatOneGuyFromTheThing
You don't play warzone for balance. You play it for the chaos. It's unbalanced even without Micros, but Micros don't affect arena at least.