In case you haven't seent the second part to the first

Feb 4, 2016 5:57 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNwZ76wl4Lo

But also, marriage can be amazing and beautiful and fun. So there's that, too.

10 years ago | Likes 146 Dislikes 10

As someone who's watched most marriages around him end unhappily or drag on miserably, I'll admit I'm massively skeptical.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

No fucking kidding. I dont get the feeling this was made by anyone who has actually been married.

10 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 6

Very true, I love my wife and couldn't imagine life without her next to me

10 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 1

Marriages have their rough spots but it is up to both parties to remain faithful and try to work them out if that isn't possible then 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Then maybe it is a good plan to mutually depart

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Ooof, my h-heart...

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

So many people, men and women alike, deserve better than what they've got

10 years ago | Likes 121 Dislikes 7

This is so true.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

And some don't.

10 years ago | Likes 35 Dislikes 1

Fucking synths

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 6

Fucking synths

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 2

Fucking synths

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 6

This is about as accurate as saying... only women get raped.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

that's a lot of baggage right there.

10 years ago | Likes 380 Dislikes 6

That...was...intense.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Feel better OP? Therapy dude.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

'MERICA!

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Nope this is how happends im mostly all the world

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

not the wife gets all, and allomony thing cause thats hella stupid.... thats only for murica

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I feel emotionally destroyed just reading it

10 years ago | Likes 94 Dislikes 0

Same here. This is disgusting. But its reality for some and it scares me.

10 years ago | Likes 38 Dislikes 0

Don't get married. Problemo solved.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

I... I gotta call my dad.

10 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

You really should. Damn near step by step this is what my wife did. Call your dad. Nothing brings a smile to my face anymore except her call

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Something similar to this happened with my parents, but I find this kind of one sided.

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

Well they are sharing a personal experience and they are only one person.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

It terrifies me to see this happening in real time...

10 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 5

Just remember that no matter what, our kids still need us.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

This is one marriage. Not all marriage.

10 years ago | Likes 34 Dislikes 4

I just object to the idea that women are always the bad guy. People are shit, and treat each other badly, but that's not gender specific.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

more than one %

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

not to burst your bubble, but it is, look up the laws in divorce women get fucking everything, its retarded.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 9

This is about half of marriages. You can always tell the guilty one because they hook up right away.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 12

Half of marriages end in divorce. Youre implying every divorce happens for exactly and only this reason?

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Why don't you ask if he needs to talk instead of arguing national divorce data.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 4

What are you even talking about

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

This happens extremely often, but not to you right?

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 4

When your friends kill themselves after speaking to you, just keep arguing empirical statistics. Winning is more important than caring.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

You seriously need to talk to someone who isn't the internet. This was presented as a general commentary on marriage. OP was never married.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

its so brutal that some guys actually see women like this

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Well, if you see women doing this in real life, it's hard to trust anyone.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

a lot of people are manipulative, both men and women alike

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Yeah, but courts don't favor men in these types of situations, so it's not even like there is justice.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

I grew up a child in a situation like this, I never knew if it was my father or mother who was wrong,i basicly grew up without a father tho

10 years ago | Likes 242 Dislikes 5

I had the exact same upbringing it's hard and reading that comic makes me worry about my dad :(

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

My father was an asshole, my mother stayed because she had stopped working and basically having a life to be the perfect housewife. Such bs.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I had the exact same upbringing it's hard and reading that comic makes me worry about my dad :(

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I had the exact same upbringing it's hard and reading that comic makes me worry about my dad :(

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Hey I can empathize there... Didn't meet the man till I was 16, turns out he's not too bad of a guy :)

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

I grew up the same way, but now I know it was my father who was wrong. He just didn't care about anyone but himself. He cheated on my mom1/2

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

multiple times, and even stole $2000 from me that I was trying to save up to go to college. Seeing as I grew up poor that is a lot of money.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Connor?

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Ayyye I know your feel, brotha. Both my folks are weird and fucked up. It's not SO bad though

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I did too. I told my parents they were both full of shit. I then told CS that I wanted to spent half my childhood with one then the other1/?

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

CS made them agree to this or they were going to through a hissy fit, so that's what happened.2/2

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

My mother tried her best to turn my siblings and I against our father, and for a few years it worked. I still resent her for that.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

My parents divorce was mutual. They put my brother and i as #1 priority. My father did his best to see us everyday i feel blessed

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I'm glad that they put you both first.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

When you get older, you realize they were both at fault in some way. Rarely is there 100% innocence to someone. Still no excuse though.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

This is very true, but it doesn't fit the 'poor men being tricked by evil women' narrative that Imgur loves.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I grew up with both parents, but my mother was violent and very angry. She would tell me every horrible thing in the book about my father -

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

- in her rage. My father never once, even to this day now that I'm an adult, will not speak ill of his son's mother... I'm proud of him.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm sorry for that, I swore it would never be my son. Then she left me. 76% of divorces are filed by women.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Probably both of them

10 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 1

Having been in the same situation and having more perspective now, this is most likely (like 80-10-10) the right answer.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

i had an insane father (he still is) and my mum refused to talk negatively about him until he wore her out yrs after the divorce w/ his shit

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

For me, my mother tried to brain wash us into thinking my father was a horrible man. Turns out she was psycho. He is the best father ever.

10 years ago | Likes 145 Dislikes 0

Similar..I really feel like I missed out on getting to know my dad. I miss him. I want him to meet his grand babies.

10 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

If he's still alive, make this happen somehow. For us.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I give you my word, I will do this.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Similar situation I have right now. My mom cheated multiple times on my dad for years, but she always finds a way back in the house. (1)

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

From what I gather from my sister, my mom's friends on Facebook support her and act as if she did nothing wrong. Really aggravating. (2)

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

My father did the same. He kept her, so he could still be with us. Not having us wasn't an option. I assume your father is doing the same.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Actually the opposite. My sister, little brother, and myself are with our dad. Mom left. But my dad keeps bringing her back time after time.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Saaaaaaame bro. Fucking same.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

When I was just a little baby boy my mama used to tell me these crazy things.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Happened to my Uncle. Thankfully one of his kid's re-connected with him before he died. My aunt can rot in hell as far as I'm concerned.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

My husband's uncle is in this mess rigth now. His wife cheated on him and turn his kids aginst him. He loves them so much but they hate him

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

My mum was the same, after 12 years of her bad mouthing my dad I moved out of her house and into my dads, feels great! My dad is awesome

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

My mom handle divorce better then my dad she never talkd badly about him worried itd change our perception of him but he did that on his own

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Alternatively, before marriage, make sure your potentially significant other is not an acidic asshole.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

People change over time. Interests change, and relationships and people you used to love make you crazy.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

I'm so thankful that my divorce didn't go any way like this. I just today spend 30 mins talking to the ex about his work and upcoming move.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Are.. are you ok OP? Need to talk?

10 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 2

What a bleak view of marriage....

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Maybe if this didn't happen half of the time.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 4

This is probably what it's like to marry an asshole, but not every marriage ends like this.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

This isn't the only situation, yes this happens but this is very biased towards men.

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

Imgur, always making us ladies feel part of the community. From hating all fems/fat women to fapping to almost underage girls/celebs. Fun!

10 years ago | Likes 89 Dislikes 25

You've certainly got a talent for scratching out new ways to be a victim. "Imgur hates women", kek.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 11

Don't forget the racism people claim doesn't exist on here.

10 years ago | Likes 35 Dislikes 5

I was just thinking the same. Imgur doesn't seem to want to discuss issues to gender-based boundaries. It just seems to want to vent about1/

10 years ago | Likes 40 Dislikes 8

I'm a humanist. I dont give a fuck if you're fat, black, purple, mexican, half-lizard or identify as a cheese pizza. Don't be a cunt.

10 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 11

IWannaPipMyBallsInIt is my spirit animal.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 3

Yea, and they're only single bc women choose douchebags over nice guys like them! (Please note sarcasm)

10 years ago | Likes 34 Dislikes 4

how awful and wrong feminists are. 2/2

10 years ago | Likes 36 Dislikes 7

Ironically proving that casual sexism is still alive and well.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

It's like during that whole Gamergate charade. Anita Sarkeesian would discuss how there's sexism among gamers, and some gamer would say 1/

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Wow, imgur doesn't like women. This is not what marriage is like.

10 years ago | Likes 129 Dislikes 36

Only half

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

Actually it IS what marriage turned into for MY parents, and most of my childhood friend's parents.

10 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 15

Your own personal experience does not reflect all women.

10 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 6

I never said it did.... however it is a pretty good sample size when you add dozens of childhood friends.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

No it really doesn't. There are 7 billion people in the world.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Of course imgur doesn't like women these days, all the outward misogyny bled over from reddit.

10 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 21

It's what a crappy marriage is like. Granted, I've only been a spectator to some of those...

10 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 6

Great conclusion to draw from a single image out of millions

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 13

As the daughter of two terrible people, this fact shocked me when I met my bf's parents

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Sure they do! As long as they're really hot and half-naked, or spouting anti-feminist rhetoric.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 3

Of course imgur doesn't like women these days, all the outward misogyny bled over from reddit.

10 years ago | Likes 49 Dislikes 24

Misogyny has got to be the most overused word on the internet today. And totally hypocritical, you can criticize men all day long.

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 12

Agreed. I think with all the fuss of 3rd wave feminism, any man who criticizes it gets labeled a misogynist.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 3

That being said, I've borne witness to some of this image. Not in my family. Neighbors.

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 2

Mental health issues + a system that caters to women in the divorce courts makes some of this fairly accurate. My mum tried brainwashing me.

10 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 8

I'm an adult! Both parents like to brainwash me.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Luckily I know they're both awful humans, so its fine!

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

My mom tried taking me while my dad was away on business. I was 13 and knew something was fishy. She was being too nice.

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

My mum tried to take me at the same age to the other side of Australia. Never really forgiven her.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Same. What's the point? Family doesn't do that. My step mom is more of a motherly figure than her. Family is love not blood!

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Bitch took every dime he had. Blew it on a vacation in Hawaii. Courts gave her nothing because she was hiding $ for years in secret.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

My mother would hit me, break shit in the house, call my father every name in the book behind his back and to my face. To this day, -

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

he still bites his tongue and refuses to speak poorly in regards to such a vindictive bitch. Very good fathering.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

This is exactly how my father thinks it happened with my parents, but he was an abusive shit in reality. =(

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Sorry to hear that! =(

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

This is a terribly sad story, but it need not be an excuse for a belligerently sexist circle jerk... oh, too late

10 years ago | Likes 111 Dislikes 22

How is this sexist? It could go either way.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 15

It technically could, but it's often used by a lot of RedPillers to make sexist arguments and so is kinda associated with that.

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 2

A reasonable person, I scrolled so far to find you.

10 years ago | Likes 48 Dislikes 8

We are few and far between on this site.

10 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 2

We must band together lest we lose our souls too.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Also a teensy tiny bit racist.

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

Thank you for existing.

10 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 3

My favorite part about MRA's is the part where they forget who wrote the laws in the first place.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

My second favorite part is how they have no interest in equality. They just want to bitch about the few areas where women have the advantage

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

They don't do their cause any favors, that's for sure.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

This post is retarded. Im sorry youre so far down here

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 3

imgur and the internet in general don't need an excuse for one

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

This is almost exactly how my divorce and custody have turned out so far. My ex wife is a colossal bitch.

10 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 6

All I can say is focus on your kids and they will one day grow up to see her for what she is.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Hard to do when she moved them 2 states away - without my consent and without the consent of the courts.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Can't you use that to your advantage? I don't think courts like custody agreements being violated.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Nah, the courts know women are better care givers 100% of the time without exception.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Gotta love reverse sexism. Well, all I can say is keep fighting the good fight. If you don't win, keep trying. The kids will one day grow -

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I went to the courts. They did nothing. The fucking judge gave her legal advice in the middle of our hearing to prevent her from saying >>

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

something that would lose her the case.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Am I the only one who finds this post kinda sexist and generalizing here? I mean it's completely unfair to women

10 years ago | Likes 40 Dislikes 11

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10 years ago (deleted Apr 22, 2016 5:51 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

Easy to say. If i make a graphic about a man staying out late every night while she cleans, cooks, raises kids and eventually he cheats (1)

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Well to each their experience, right? If I were to generalize marriage based on the couples I know, it would be the reverse situation!

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

just as sexist as this tripe. (3/3)

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

the stereotype would be roughly identical, the result the same, and everyone could still insist it was mostly the case, and it would be (2)

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Then flip the genders in your head and see if it still works.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

That was low but accurate

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Well this was kinda sad. And the sadder part is that people go through this a lot more often then you think we need to all understand 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 24 Dislikes 6

Fuck you! I was looking intently for that other half of that. I passed through every comment and I wasn't going to accept that 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

Deez nutz

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 7

Deez nutz

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 2

1/2 I fought for 6 years to get shared custody of my son. In the end finally I got it because her second husband stepped in after realizing

10 years ago | Likes 1625 Dislikes 14

I honestly believe that you saying this might very well save a guy from hanging himself because of this exact situation.

10 years ago | Likes 27 Dislikes 0

This is my life exactly. Still fighting for equal rights after 7 years.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Don't stop fighting!

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Nearly the same story with me and my ex's ex. We just don't meet for beer. And we're both supplying her new husband's ex wife with info.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I am in the process of fighting to get custody of my two sons. Hearing news like this is great

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Make sure you have a good lawyer and keep at it. And continue to be a magical father! ;)

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

thanks, I have a lot of things going for me. one of the biggest things is that she has disobeyed judges orders about 5 times since

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

the last court date, and I have documented proof of it

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

That will work in your favor. Good luck!

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I love happy endings +1

10 years ago | Likes 63 Dislikes 0

Thank you.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

ME TOO!!! oh wait... You meant something else

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

2/2 her accusations of violence were bullshit. He even appeared in court for me. Then divorced her. We meet for beers on Wednesdays.

10 years ago | Likes 2040 Dislikes 7

Stores that didnt happen

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

You need to form a league of her ex husbands

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Marry him

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Things is, women don't just make these false accusations, they convince *themselves* they're true (with the aid of echo chambers).

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yup. She was absolutely convinced that I was a horrible dad. Nothing could convince her otherwise.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

What a bro

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

As much as i would like to believe this is true.......I do believe it! Cheers to you and Wednesday bro

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I love to hear stuff like this.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

you both got fucked by the same woman in more ways than one

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

In the end, it seems like they doubleteamed her.. Guys 1, Woman 0

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

That'll be interesting if you both end up parenting your kids under the same roof. "We're the Millers but we're not 'together' together"

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Very nice.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

what a fucking bro

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Very nice.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Cool ending to a shit story

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

I got my kid in the end. That's the important part. I've let go of the rest.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I am in a simmilar boat minus the truly standup new husband / ex-husband. Truly TRULY happy for you my. I also have gone through the above

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Thanks. I hope it came to a positive end for you.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Husband him. :P Establish dominance over your shared ex wife.

10 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 0

You should husband him... he sounds like a good second parent!

10 years ago | Likes 42 Dislikes 1

Someone should make that into a movie with this romantic ending and shit.

10 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

I would watch that!

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

That's a nice eskimo brother!

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Oh noice

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Great story +1

10 years ago | Likes 303 Dislikes 2

Except for the 6 years fight for fucking shared custody. Boy, the family court system is so biased!

10 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 0

Horribly so. Upon our divorce she was automatically given custody because our son was under 1 year old. It was a fight from the start.

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

The guy was a great step dad. He worried more about my son and his daughter than his wife. He has my respect for that.

10 years ago | Likes 136 Dislikes 2

What a fucking excellent man.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Bravo.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I feel said I can't up vote this more than once.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

This is the kind of story I always hope for.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I signed in just to upvote this

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Thanks

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

What along, painful, heartbreaking road.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I don't understand the mentality of life already sucks for the guy, why make it worse by denying him custody to his own children?

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Because of that untrue and retarded stereotype that mother will take better care of them/love them more.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

wow!!! awesome how good things ended for you man, congrats!

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

My ex's wife is the one accusing me of violence, and he's fine with it. Our battle has been going on for almost 2 years now.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Horrible what lows some people will go too. Stay strong and remember who you're doing it for.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm trying, dude. I get those weak moments where I miss my boys so much, but I know they'll see when they get older what their father did.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

that's awesome to hear.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

1/2 My divorced dad's been in custody battle over a yr for my underage sister now. Mom's alcoholic, jobless and married to a very bad drunk.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

2/2 socials are very reluctant to give sis to dad cos he is male. Dad is the stable person, absolutist, owns a house and makes ~4k €/month.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

That's fucked up.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yeah it always is. Luckily this is more or less over and sis should be moving in with my dad in spring when her summer holidays begin.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Man that's really cool. Hope you and her new ex husband are friends now.

10 years ago | Likes 125 Dislikes 1

Nah guys a dickhead

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

We are. The dudes okay by my book.

10 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 2

We are. The dudes okay by my book.

10 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 3

We are. The dudes okay by my book.

10 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 2

Judging by how many books he's okay in, I'd say they are.

10 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

Glitchy day on the servers. Sorry.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

We are. The dudes okay by my book.

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 2

You'll probably like part two lol

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

They probably are. I bet the dude's okay in his book.

10 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 1

You'll probably like part two lol

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 3

We are. The dudes okay by my book.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 4

We are, we're married now.

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

We are. The dudes okay by my book.

10 years ago | Likes 91 Dislikes 1

Congrats on the friend. Hope your realizes how awesome his dad is

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You should wife him.

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

I'm glad her bullshit was unveiled too many women use children as weapons in the relationship. Fuck women like that

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Or rather, don't fuck women like that so they can't use the kids as weapons.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

somebody hurt OP

10 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 8

Yeah my mother not allowing me to see my father even though I knew she was the one cheating.

10 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 7

So you're going to let your experience with your mother colour your perception of all women?

10 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 7

I don't believe he ever said all women

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 4

However this post seems to suggest this typical female behaviour.

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 3

It details a real problem a lot of guys face, the fact this issue does exist in no way means every marriage is the same.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 3

Don't like 80% of divorces end up like this?

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 12

Don't like 80% of divorces end up like this?

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 16

Do I think 80% of marriages are like this?

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Did you take 3rd grade reading? It says divorce.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Thats not what Im asking. Do you believe all women are like your mother? Could you never trust any women in your life as a result?

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

Why would I think that? Also why would I get married. 25% of marriages go down the drain.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

Why would I think that? Also why would I get married. 25% of marriages go down the drain.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

I don't think never is accurate. But growing up in a household where the dominate female example is a lying Twat isn't helpful.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

Why would I think that? Also why would I get married. 25% of marriages go down the drain.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

It really sucks that the bitch took the dog.

10 years ago | Likes 46 Dislikes 13

That would be my murder line. Kids can be reasoned with, and have things explained to them. All a good boy knows is your gone

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

They always do, even if they hate it.

10 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 2

Oh, Tugboat...

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Don't marry cunty people.

10 years ago | Likes 76 Dislikes 9

Amen.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

I feel like a lot of these marriages wouldn't happen if people just dated longer before tying the knot. 1 year not enough

10 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 5

I feel marriage should just be a religious ceremony, the government should be blind to it.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 4

Better yet, don't marry at all.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Nope, everything's the woman's fault

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 15

I understood the sarcasm

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Communicate. Communicate. Communicate. My prior relationship ended because my partner didn't communicate and rebuffed my attempts. [1]

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I agree with you, she didn't agree with me. We were married 12 years, my son was 6.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

WoW and my ex's sister-in-law actually were the driving factors for me. Every time I tried to talk to him he refused to even listen to me

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I hate to hear that you went through that. Where is the compassion? How do people change so much?

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Last I heard he lives with her and his brother, babysits for them and works 2 jobs. He's a slave by his own design :/

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Communicate all you like, "there's no cure for being a cunt."

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

That's when you walk away like I did...

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Converse often. Don't just talk, have a conversation everyday if you can. Make time specifically for it. My husband and I personally [2]

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

have long conversations when we go to bed. Both to talk about the day and how we feel and to clear our minds to sleep better. [3]

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Do NOT put off conversing. If you aren't comfortable broaching a subject, simply mention it and say you aren't ready to visit it yet [4]

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

but that you do need to visit it eventually. If your partner ever puts communication lower on the priority list in place of hobbies [5]

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

frequently (like my ex did), re-evaluate the situation. DO THINGS TOGETHER!! This comic shows the husband doing shores on his own [6]

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

As a woman I promised to myself I will never be this, so sad, so awful, I know too many girls like this that are fucking soulless

10 years ago | Likes 142 Dislikes 20

I'm with you!

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

A lot of people are cruel and selfish, true.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

The real problem is the system that enables them.

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 5

My ex wife promised me and herself that she would never be this way, but she is exactly this way. I however have never changed since day one

10 years ago | Likes 31 Dislikes 6

Take the hint bro

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 5

Well jbeek there are those rare woman out there with the hearts of gold, just gotta find em

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 2

I agree. She didn't ruin me.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Rationally evaluating the risks I'd say there's no reason for a man to get married 99% of the time. He wins nothing but can lose everything.

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Never be with a woman that says "if we don't get married, or you work harder/less im leaving!" (Hint of a crazy lady) that is not real love

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

For the record, nice guys are hard to find as well.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

In my experience only broken women want nice guys. There's a fine line between nice and asshole and women hate pushovers.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I still love my exhusband. I would never take his kids away. We are better seperate and both focus on the kids. No bad mouthing.

10 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

My ex and I were like that. Now after 18 years, we are a couple again.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Good on you both for being decent parents

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Thank you

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

It makes me so embarrassed to be a woman sometimes.

10 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 9

Youre so cringy. Would it be normal for a dude to say he is embarrased to be a man because rape happens? Fuck no. Shitty ppl are shitty ppl

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

Are you serious? Why? I don't expect men to feel embarrassed about being men, just because some men are horrible people.

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 5

I would be embarrassed if only brunettes acted like this too. It's not a gender thing. I don't want to be associated with idiots.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

Are you serious? Why? I don't expect men to feel embarrassed about being men, just because some men are horrible people.

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 4

Are you serious? Why? I don't expect men to feel embarrassed about being men, just because some men are horrible people.

10 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 3

As a man, I grew up feeling embarrassed to be a man. It felt that from every direction people were telling me men were the problem.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I felt a lot of those same feelings about being a woman. Like I couldn't be good at a lot of things, like I had to always be a delicate (1)

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

a man. ALWAYS be pretty. Be thin. Be sexy but not too sexy, because then you're a slut. Don't give it up too easy, don't be a prude. (3)

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flower. Never get angry, never say no, always be pleasant and smiling. Be good at cleaning and cooking, because otherwise I wouldn't get (2)

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That is such fucking bullshit. My father walked out on us and never paid a dime in cs. My mom still wanted me to have a dad, so I saw him 1

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On weekends and he used that time badmouth my mom. Men do this all the time. You're full of shit. 2

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Really? I don't know any women who have acted this way in any situation. Maybe you need to surround yourself with better people.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

Then you have lived a blessed life.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

This is painfully accurate and part of why the suicide statistics are so horrifying for men. Yet almost no one cares about mens issues still

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actually, men and women attempt at about the same rates. men just tend to choose methods that are more effective.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

What are you, some sort of MRA neckbeard rape apologist? Check your privilege.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 3

No, more like a woman that is capable of giving a shit about people that don't have the same parts as I do. Injustice is intolerable.

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10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

But if we start caring about mens issues all the resources for female victims will suddenly disappear!

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 2

Men don't care about men's issues. Remember that.

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 4

They are socially prohibited from doing so. Can't show weakness, and any attempt to help men is viewed as attempting to suppress women.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

It really isn't even only that. When they do try to advocate for themselves they get shamed and sometimes worse. By women and other men.

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Especially male youths. Its always "man up" "show no fear" and its always the mans fault when a women is involved. Oh he was cheating! 1/2

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And once they do show emotion "lololol crying pissbaby. Male Tears. Masculinity so fragile."

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 4

Man cheats: his fault. Women cheats: his fault. Absolving women of responsibility (and 'empowering' shitty behaviour) harms both genders.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

That's my sister from a separate mother. No you never met her because I haven't seen her in 6 yrs and she lives in Iqaluit. Sorry for rant

10 years ago | Likes 58 Dislikes 2

Don't be sorry, men are treated like second-class citizens when it comes to family law. Not to mention all the other bullshit that comes w/

10 years ago | Likes 37 Dislikes 3

It's why I'm a big fan of the "No-Fault" system. Unless there is violence everything is split 50-50, including the kids.

10 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 1

How would they do that? I always have trouble getting a clean cut...

10 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 1

I'm really sorry to hear that, and it must be hard! But Iqaluit? *greenlander sense intensifying*

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 2

Nunavut I think, Canada.

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Nunavut I think, Canada.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Yup

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While men successfully commit suicide more than women, there are more attempted suicides by women. so this point is kind of invalid (1/?)

10 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 12

A lot of those aren't real attempts.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 5

why do you think this? These studies are taught in uni sociology/psychology courses, just because its unsuccessful doesn't mean its not real

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Women attempt because it's a cry for help, they want help. Men commit suicide because they know there's no help, he's just not a "real man".

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 5

its ridiculous to diminish women's feelings like this, its like saying "oh she didn't die so she must not not have really been trying"

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

We're already talking about generalized percentages. The majority of attempted suicide is done by women, while the most successful suicide…

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

…is performed by men. The correlation here is that when committing suicide men are the most willing to make sure they succeed in dieing…

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Or it's a cry for help?

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 2

many women try multiple times but are often just saved from the outcomes due to their means of suicide

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

If someone really wanted to die they would do it. In my opinion in some shape or form some don't want to die.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 4

riiighttt but wouldn't you want to die in the most peaceful way possible, like via a bunch of morphine or something?

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

So more men actually die yet women are still more important. Just stop.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

You really can't give men's issues 1 second in the spot light?! It'll really screw your cause that much?!

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 4

What cause? I'm just saying that suicide is a serious issue that effects everyone regardless of their sex and that this isnt a full picture

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Male suicide prevention! Its an extremely serious issue and turning it into another, "yeah but women..." Is extremely offensive. Give them

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

The respect and sensitivity the Issue deserves.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

women tend to attempt suicide through "less violent" means, such as overdosing, poisoning etc where men use violent means ie hanging (2/?)

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

I'm not saying that men's issues aren't important, because they are, but the issue of suicide is important to both sexes/genders and (3/4)

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

when someone says more men commit suicide they must have more problems/their problems are caused by women it creates a false picture (4/4)

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

1) I'm with you on this, I've learned the same statistics back in school. I wish people stopped posting these dumb, oversimplified comics

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

2) and started treating issues as they are: complex and hurtful to EVERYONE. You should have not received all these downvotes.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

1) I'm with you on this, I've learned the same statistics back in school. I wish people stopped posting these dumb, oversimplified comics

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Are you fucking kidding me??? A informative post about the suicide epidemic among men and you STILL have to have the attention on women?!

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 3

I said that its a problem for both sexes, why is that an issue? im not bringing attention to women im trying to promote suicide awareness

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Self hatred to take care of that in the most violent of ways. Acknowledge for once that men need the attention, christ .

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

You literally made the claim that its a bigger problem for women. Let men have this one issue. Depression effects everyone and men have the

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

Ok so I'm just going to reply to this comment because it seems like you're making the same point on both comments (1/?)

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Attempted suicide is not suicide. Just as murder and attempted murder are different in the eyes of the law.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 2

I 100% agree, its just that you cant say men have more problems than women AS EVIDENCED by the higher suicide rate (1/2)

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

nor could you say women have more problems than women AS EVIDENCED by the higher attempted suicide rate, everyone has problems (2/2)

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

You can imply, as he did, that men are more often victims of suicide. That does not imply that they are greater victims of depression.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Feminists like myself care about men's issues. However, I want you to make sure you're not just saying "why aren't feminists fixing this!(1)

10 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 12

The feminist movement as a whole and feminist organizations rarely accomplish anything in that arena, and most don't try.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 3

Have you tried?

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

without doing anything about it yourself. Pick an issue you feel most passionately about, and then take action. (2)

10 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 4

As long as we don't try to open a male DV center, cause we'll end up like Erin Pizzey or worse, Earl Silverman.

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 4

http://www.malesurvivor.org/ htt">vor.org/">http://www.malesurvivor.org/ http://www.cadvny.org/2009/09/14/help-for-men/ Just a few more resources.

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And to see how they're treated google "male survivor MRA" And read about how rape is a "patriarchal enforcement method" 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Unbelievably accurate. I'm lucky i have my son 90% of the time

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 5

That's great. I got full custody of mine in the divorce. Been 12 years now. Their mother...well not enough space here to go in to that.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

That's great. I got full custody of mine in the divorce. Been 12 years now. Their mother...well not enough space here to go in to that.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

That's great. I got full custody of mine in the divorce. Been 12 years now. Their mother...well not enough space here to go in to that.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

I think the feminists would call this "toxic masculinity" and they're trying to do something about it.

10 years ago | Likes 81 Dislikes 31

Toxic masculinity, what a load of blue-haired bulldyke manspreading-tier bullshit.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 4

Yeah, they're making "Male Tears" mugs and at the same time telling men their problem is they don't show their emotions enough *eyeroll*

10 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 11

And where is that effort?

10 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 19

You can't see with closed eyes.

10 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 19

Lol so you aren't going to point to a feminist effort to counter this that is more than just mouth movement? I have NEVER seen anything more

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 7

The thing about "feminist effort" is that it's usually not worth anything to people who hate feminists.

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 12

Thats part of the idea that all problems, even men's problems are because of maculinity. What about toxic feminity?

10 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 8

I would perceive toxic femininity as traits that are deemed feminine that are detrimental to the individual woman. Same as for men

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

I find your ideas intriguing, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 6

Fuck feminists. Either be an egalitarian or admit that you're sexist and you're just coming at it from the opposite end you hate so much.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 5

That bothers me. This whole "feminism isn't just about women, but general equality" is garbage. It's just the leaders of the feminism...

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 6

...movement trying to stay relevant and "influential". Feminism is, by definition even, the advocacy of making WOMEN'S RIGHTS equal to...

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 5

...MEN'S RIGHTS. Feminism isn't about equality for all genders, it's about balancing the scale between men and women.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 3

I hate that phrase. Show me the book on how to be a good man and I'll read it cover to cover. I'll I see is contradictory nonsense from 1/

10 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 22

Feminists on what a man should and shouldn't be

10 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 14

Feminism is about stopping the toxic behavior society encourages towards both men and women, so we can overcome exactly this stuff.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 3

Really? The phrase refers to exactly that: telling men how to be "good men". I'd rather people stop saying "men should be A, women B".

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

It's more of a taught mindset, you know there's no book. I doubt you can read anyway.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 25

wow that's savage, although you are right about it being toxic masculinity and that a book on how to be a man would be silly, 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

And this is why people hate feminists.

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 3

But "toxic masculinity" is just about that. There is no such thing as a cookie-cutter "good man" and forcing men into that shape is wrong.

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

4/4 The term has probably been butchered by SJWs but "toxic masculinity" is used to show how harmful adherance strict gender roles can be.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

3/4 that which deviates from trad. masculinity is seen as feminine→weak, subservient, so on. Don't help no-one, nowhere, nohow.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

2/3 It's toxic because it ultimately does a lot of damage when you shame men into conforming. It also damages women, too bc

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

The whole point of toxic masculinity is all these societal expectations for a "good man" to be this and that. Tough, virile, rich, etc. (1)

10 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 4

Then get women to be attracted to that. Your never going to change anything if women prefer and reinforce masculine traits. And stop 1

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

excluding women from blame for the paradigms they create and enforce or the actions they take. 2

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Feminists like myself want to spread the message that you're no less of a "real man" if you aren't any of those things. You don't "lose (2)

10 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 4

your man card" if you're insecure, if you're hurt, if you're assaulted, if you want to be dominated, if whatever. (3)

10 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 4

This is a distorted narrative putting all the blame on the woman for everything this guy does.

10 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 64

Lol, get over yourself.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 12

Lol, get over yourself.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 10

Spot the feminist!

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 6

You say that like you think it's something to be ashamed of.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Where is the distortion and where is his fault? What did he do to deserve cheating, divorce, threats and parental alienation?

10 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 7

It is rarely only one person who is the source of problems in a relationship. It shows her 'loud noise lines' at him, but what did he 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

do that contributed to the decline of the relationship? This is entirely one-sided, and most marriages and divorces aren't like this. 2/2

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

It showed what he 'did'. He was working to pay for their lifestyle and she was bitching at him. This is so common as to be a trope!

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Yeah, a FAKE trope. Every guy who gets divorced claims all he did was work hard and she was never satisfied. Bullshit.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

Don't fucking marry a shitty person. Its a partnership, and if you decide to have a shit partner thats just as much your fault as it is hers

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 30

So to be clear by your logic if someone marries someone this is shitty/abusive but does nothing wrong they are at fault for getting hit?

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

Many times you don't find out they're a shitty person until on day you walk in and find out that they are. Happened to me.

10 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 1

So to be clear by your logic if someone marries someone this is shitty/abusive but does nothing wrong they are at fault for getting hit?

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 2

Yes, much like if you know a train is coming and jump on the tracks you're at least partly responsible. That's not the point though? Don't..

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 16

Yes, much like if you know a train is coming and jump on the tracks you're at least partly responsible. That's not the point though? Don't..

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 13