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apollo1596
Wait till you see the otterbox for it
mutatedspleen
Can't wait for the Apple fans to say that Apple invented the idea of a glasses/headset device and wow they are so innovative, as if this technology hasn't existed for 10+ years.
Gonetogetsomemilk
Apple: heres a brick that can browse the internet, now do everything else for me and I’ll take 30% thank you. Also let me just take these open source codes and write one line of code and take 100% credit. I’m so good.
M4nFle5h
Ferengi: it works as INTENDED
JupitersStormHole
CelestialSea
Forgot the frayed charging cord.
Gonetogetsomemilk
I wonder how much battery life and weight they would save by removing this 100% gimmick screen and heavy glass.
Shadowarez1337
Ha it won't take that long with how this timeline they will be shipped broken and Cr@pple will not Honor a warranty .
spittinfacts
This is such a dumb hate on new devices. If you don't care about your shit, that's a you problem, not a product problem. I've never lost a wireless earbud, and never broken a phone screen in 40 years.
Baskerville84
GudeStefan
Just get the $1000 Apple Care. The replacement cost is then only $2500.
thatwoodguy
Watch be made out of so many proprietary parts that you can't possibly repair it with the Third party.
Hightower840
More than likely it'll be a stripped down Gen1 Oculus Quest they claim is new and improved because they soldered the lenses to the main board instead of attaching it by a ribbon cable.
yoloswag360noscope420blazeit
Anyone who buys apple products doesn't know much about electronics or quality, they pay 10x mark up for a shitty name brand and feel good doing it. You just can't help some people.
johnspeck2
You sound like an anti apple fanboy on the exact same level as how much you get mad about apple fanboys. See the irony in your stupidity?
Fishamil
“My personal product preference is correct and anyone who has a different opinion is dumb” -Jackasses
BlackTrashTiger
Also “My personal product preference is correct and anyone who has a different opinion is dumb” -Apple Fans
Erdanya
Working with phones and tablets, yeah, no. There are various good reasons to get a number of apple products, but the weird cult-like behavior to get the latest, biggest, newest IS quite dumb. However, the UI is solid for the regular consumer, security updates are no joke, and at the very least they handle that pretty decently compared to most other manufacturers. Apple's accessories, though... eugh.. yeah *those* are overpriced.
idontlikepickingusername
Yeah, as someone who only owns non-Apple, but tears down a lot of Apple (and other) products as part of my job, the hardware and build is quite impressive.
TheNamiKage
Honestly who is this even for? Even if they had all the vr games from the virtual boy to now and guaranteed them on it till the end of time it would be worth that price tag.
tacticalfacepalm
did you mean to say "wouldn't"?
TheNamiKage
Yes
OpenMouthHotKiss
I wonder how these will handle the need for glasses, with the quest I had to get third party lenses made that stay on with magnets, they have a baseline way that you can like wear glasses while wearing the quest but it does not work well
YouMayFindThisMildlyInteresting
Same way, magnetic prescription lenses as part of the purchase process.
delecti
Some headsets have room for a pair of glasses underneath. I can wear my glasses under my PS VR2. The Vision Pro of course requires an additional purchase to by custom inserts.
OpenMouthHotKiss
I've never used a headset that allowed glasses under that didn't feel terrible while doing that
Kenbamazingbutprobablywontbe
Apple didnt even make the primary function for gaming. So. Its only gonna be a rich persons toy that gets underdeveloped.
OpenMouthHotKiss
Not as long as it gets porn on it
FlatPlutoSociety
No, but the sensors required for gaming are there. There will be shitloads of games for this within a few generations, I'm sure.
exbenedict
You know, I don’t u sweat and how people keep breaking their phones so often. I’ve had an iPhone since the first one came out. The iPhone 1 survived two motorcycle crashes in my pocket without a cracked screen. Never have I even damaged one. Wtf are you people doing to your fucking phones?????
ConfusedConda
You obviously don't have the Hammer app.
qwertdeep
Dropped mine on the kitchen flow once and it shattered the screen. I’ve used a case and screen protector ever since
Snozzberrywine
You're obviously not a teenage girl. They go through screens like underwear. Just bashing it off every surface available.
guardianzero
I would like to be able to afford one.. I wouldn't but the money would be nice.
FetteredJuvenescence
Not me. XR is absolutely the future, but fuck Apple. Can't stand any of their design decisions on anything ever, so I'm not touching that even if I could afford it.
bnuihj
They'll do a non-pro version for us plebs, as far as I know.
CloseupCaptionReaction
For 3299?
flamingflamingo
I feel like the Valve Index has better value. It's about $1k but has the best game selection and performance. Oculus is like a 3rd of that but the games are lame. Not expecting much from Apple games.
eggmuffin
Remember the price of the first generation of plasma flatscreen TVs? Just wait. It's fine. Let the spoiled rich kids have the first generation. Let them call customer support.
bnuihj
Fauxcused
I am waiting for the Android based alternative that will do more for less money.
PirateRubberDuck
Only Microsoft and Apple at the moment with this level of AR. I am sure others will be getting into this soon.
DeadPanPizza
Um...a quest? (similarly, vive xr elite/focus 3, pimax crystal/portal)? Srsly though, can't wait to retire my vive pro eye for something new (pimax 12k looking nice...)
Fauxcused
It's not immersive VR it's just an AR overlay
archon325
I'm honestly excited for Augmented Reality to get off the ground and become cheaper. There is so much potential there.
NotThatPrivate
There is, but also so much potential fuckery. Advertisers are just drooling in the corner, waiting to put their shit in your way
PirateRubberDuck
Considering what this headset can do for the same price of a HoloLens, the tech is getting a lot cheaper and a lot better after 8 years of development. The software is getting better too. I expect a lot more AR in the next 5 years.
somethingdark
I'm just looking forward to more VR games other than horror or "goofily overcomplicated"
qwertdeep
VR is so good for horror though, I’m looking forward to more VR horror games and more. No man’s sky is meant to be a good vr title now
METROlD
Yeah Ive got an Oculus Rift and its just sooo lacking in basic functionality and apps. Every time I take it out there is a mandatory 45 minutes of fucking with random shit to get it to finally work. And it fucking hurts your nose, I cant wear it for more than 30 minutes. It was cool AF fuck, but in reality its just an expensive POS that takes up space in my closet, I havent come to terms enough to sell it yet. Ebay is such a bitch... but thats a whole other rant.
Elroydb
Their repair policy is essentially send it back to us so we can send you a new one because even Meta won't attempt to fix them
qwertdeep
I’m got the psvr2 recently. It’s an expensive toy but really easy to set up, I literally just plug one wire into my ps5 and it works. I’m excited for more games and apps on it, it’s got me excited for VR and AR tech in general
tuxedobob
How do you guys break your phones?
phobosorbust
The only phone screen I've ever broken was because I set it on something that someone else tipped over. It had a case and screen protector. I stopped using cases since then.
delecti
Lots of people are just too careless.
BisAndThighHighs
My partner will literally just stand there and their phone will end up across the room, it's impressive honestly.
thebabbster
I always laughed when the people who insisted on being the first to own a new toy would cry after the new toy immediately broke.
qwertdeep
Their investment into new technology is what allows us to have the cheaper technology later on as it shows there’s a market for it, if they’re not hurting anyone then who are we to judge?
thebabbster
Actually that’s a fair point. Touché.
PorneliusHubertII
Kol its apple, you think it will get cheaper?
qwertdeep
I meant in general with technology. Although the tech news sites that I follow have claimed that Apple has a cheaper one in development
TalkingSnake
I prefer the original.
iMcFly
Spare Head 1 would like a word.
dap6000
Zev my dear you have expired / But robot head is hot and wired
TinyLiehon
Handles! Good to see you
oldpotatoes
What's that from?
TalkingSnake
Lexx. The best show ever.
bluboy80
My friend you are mistaken, Avatar the last Airbender has that title
OnismPiglet
Thought about buying one, but the way VR is I'm just worried it will be a waste of money. I need apps, content, not weird creepy cartoons.
TheRidg
I've had VR (Vive) for about 8 years, you can count the number of great games on one hand; beat sabre, superhot, HL Alyx, Star wars squadrons; then you're into niche sims (DCS, Elite etc). Ultimately depends on your budget and games you'll play
OnismPiglet
This would be great in a remote team, if everyone in the team has one!
qwertdeep
I’d recommend one of the cheaper VRs. I have the psvr2 but if your PC can handle it then it might be worth getting one of the meta quest ones.
PirateRubberDuck
Depending on what you do, AR headsets could be great for collaborative work.
Sierrahotel12
They’ll probably sell you a screen cover for $500
KaJuN
You can just get one on Amazon from highly reputable brands such as MeVue, TufWear, or IOMOV.
AnOceanOfStars
They sold a less useful piece of plastics for double that price.
loedout
When I bought my first flagship phone, I spent so much money on screen protectors. They just kept breaking and I kept thinking "man it's a good thing I got the protector." After like $500 I finally realized they were designed to break easily, stopped replacing them, and 4 years later there's not a single scratch on my phone screen.
GuardianDinklage
Exact same thing happened to me. Screen protector on my iPhone would easily break. Stopped buying them. No issues
jayman0123
Apple has a firm stance that their devices don't require extra protection. Remember, this is the same company that told people to drop their computers on a table to fix them
bladeforester
*Cough*If you drop iPhone 11…it may never come back on…I know cause I’m holding one, and lost 3
WillWasThere
Do they even use gorilla glass or do they just expect you to wait until next year's model if something breaks? I've never had an apple anything.
jayman0123
everytime there is an advancement in gorilla glass, they make the screen thinner to make the device; cheaper, thinner, lighter, and easier to break. they could double the thickness of the glass, it would basically never break, but would add about 1.5mm to the product thickness, so they will NEVER do it, bragging rights on how thin it is.
AyrA
In their defense, it did fix the memory issue
jayman0123
No this was the computer they built without any fans and would get so hot the parts would start to come loose so the procedure was to pick it up and drop it 2-6 inches on to a hard surface so the parts would reconnect
AyrA
The memory being one of those parts.
jayman0123
Ah ok
scuba7jb
This feels like a $3500 solution-in-search-of-a-problem
captainfakeypants
It's a $3500 solution to a $399 problem, and that problem was already solved at $399.
SolHSA
Most people look at it and think it's a oculus competitor with crazy high price, while it's actually a varjo competitor with crazy low price
PirateRubberDuck
It has AR capabilities, which makes it a competitor for the HoloLens at the same time. So for the price it sounds very good. I don't like Apple, but they should be criticised honestly.
torokunai
it's like a laptop for your eyes, man
squelcheswetly
People already spend $3k-10k on TVs. This is a private TV/computer that you can watch on your own. I see it being huge with people who travel and rich couples who want to watch movies without bothering their partner. I’m not saying the price isn’t grotesque, but there are opportunities in the market.
stereoplex
A 75 inch Sony 4K television is $1700 new. And you can use it with friends. All at the same time.
squelcheswetly
And the Bravia XR is $5300. And it doesn’t provide a private, isolated viewing experience. My point is that the privacy and solo experience is conceivably part of the appeal. Apple’s headset isn’t a replacement for the family TV.
FlatPlutoSociety
Yeah, I used to fly and stay in hotels every week for work. If I were still in that lifestyle, a $3500 portable entertainment system like that would not be a crazy thing for me to buy.
GlenL
It'll take off once the porn companies figure it out
candar
The current VR porn is sorta scary. There's some inherent issues of being put inside someone else like that. No that's not what I meant. Wait.
PirateRubberDuck
AR porn, now that would be an interesting application of this tech.
PyllyNalleMissionaries
Overlay your SO with someone else
Like2Fox
That's what they said about the iPad
Youhavinagiraffe
I still don't know really what they're for. Apart from my Dad to take pictures in public in the most inconvenient way possible
Like2Fox
You might want to do like a cursory Google search or something
CAAFlo
Yeah but the iPad was 1/3rd the cost. This one is prohibitively expensive.
idontlikepickingusername
If it's one thing Apple knows it's that people will pay super-inflated prices for things with an Apple logo on them.
YouMayFindThisMildlyInteresting
It is, once there are some killer apps the mass market version of the hardware will be ready, cheaper and better. Same way the Watch went.
idontlikepickingusername
Yeah, and we all know how terrible the Apple Watch is doing at over 40% market share...
PleaseRespectMyAsshole
This will only ever be marketed towards the hardcore "I hate money" Apple people. The cost will never come down enough for us poors to be able to afford it.
quzar
It's funny how that first sentence is exactly what every other VR system in the past 30 years has said. Usually capping it with 'in just a few/5 years'
ThisOneKid
Like the car that was never going to catch on. Or the computer was never going to catch on. Technology needs some time to take off. I wouldn't take the people saying "oh it's just 5/10/15 years away" too seriously, but I believe this tech does have a lot of potential and it most needs some time to be explored more in depth. What Apple is doing will be glitchy and expensive but with time, enough companies will have had a good at it to really give us an amazing product (that's hopefully not Apple)
quzar
Certainly. I guess "It's funny how" is often used for sarcastic/dismissive reasons, but I find it legitimately amusing. These kinds of things already have plenty of applications and are in use, but most such technologies don't gain mass usage. AR *did* have a killer app, Pokemon GO. It has been another tool in the toolbox for some time now. I *would* be dismissive of the broader notion that it'll be transformative.
quzar
At a time lighter-than-air (or faster than sound) travel was to be the future of flight, pneumatic tubes would revolutionize mail/package delivery, 3D TVs were going to bring video off the screen, everyone was going to be playing with drones (`actual` drones, which can fly on their own, not just RC quadcopters), etc. There's plenty of stuff that could (or even should) be commonplace that just never take off or settle into niches.
DarkwingDuc
It is. So was the Apple Watch and the iPad. So are most new consumer electronic gadgets. And the $3500 price is the early adopter fee. In a few years we'll have a slimmer, faster, mass market version with a ton of apps for half the price. Is this your first new tech rodeo?
CAAFlo
Apple watch launched with an intro lvl model at $350. Literally a tenth of the price. The iPad launched at $500. You could buy 7 of those for the cost of this one thing. This price point is pretty unprecedented for something that is meant to have made market appeal.
DarkwingDuc
That's just it. This is not meant to have a wide market appeal. It's a "pro" device with a pretty niche market. The mass-market version will come later after the technology has matured a bit.
CAAFlo
Then why would you compare it to the iPad or apple watch which were mass market devices?
mardukkur
It might be the dumbest piece of technology I've ever seen released to the mass market, though Meta is doing their best to win that challenge.
InfinityAero
The meta one is $3-400... not really in the same stratosphere.
youreathing
Don't remember the Segue?
mardukkur
Not even a little comparable, they were somewhat fun to rent on vacations & such and the stabilization technology ended up in tons of later products.
Mrklaar
It’s crazy expensive. But this is the start of something new I think. I think, in time, this could in the make the tv obsolete
PirateRubberDuck
The TV thing is a dumb application really. There is a lot of awesome things you can do with a 4K AR headset though.
Mrklaar
Hm, I don’t agree. Adjusting the Tv size, surrounding environment and additional information without interrupting the visuals seems like a good next step for me. Imaging popups and vid controllers not blocking the screens. Picture in Picture would not need to exist. And video games?! Endless possibilities 😄
mardukkur
Nobody's wearing a giant fucking headset to experience the joys of motion sickness. Either the technology gets to the point that it works on a fairly normal pair of glasses without making 50%+ of its users puke, or it never gets adopted.
Mrklaar
That’s one way to look at it. I don’t agree with you though. I don’t see why the size makes a difference. It will come down to the difference in experience I think. And the tv has done all it can. While this headset hasn’t even started showing us what it can do! Only one will tell I guess
mardukkur
You don't think people care about wearing ridiculous uncomfortable gear on their faces that gives them motion sickness?