Sep 27, 2022 11:06 PM
copperdomebodhi
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TheSeanDassen
They also perform a genital surgery on their infants which has been proven to be so damaging that it changes brain development to adults
trippingthelightfantastic
candar
Ohhh fuck tho the vibes are so odd right now...
ManByTechnicality
Honestly, same reason why all Canadian geese are rage filled territorial monsters.
Sinasohn
Or in some cases, 83 years ago.
Delerium1973
Watership Down.
xXxX66SICKXxXx
This is the concept of why humanity is so superstitious insular and dogmatic in the WH40K universe, only those ones survived the cataclysms
tentacularfleshscape
I mean also in that setting, there's a ton of legitimate threats plus they're raised under a totalitarian fascist police state pretty much
zeacorzeppelin10
I mean just look at history.
EternalStudent07
Survivor bias, yep. Wonder if any gene functions could be determined? I'm sure someone would assume any results would be antisemitic.
Interleaver11111111
neurotic you say?!?
FallenJester
'Are you Jewish?' - The guy with the daughter who didn't dress up for Halloween. 'What do you want to see my penis?' - long balls Larry
GrammarAndPunctuationNazi
toobilltochill
Epigenetics
Atomic2
Eh, the neurotic jew stereotype is kinda played out though. Mark Cuban is Jewish, Harrison Ford, Gal Gadot, Scarlett Johansen, and on and on
DiamondDogLedTasso
As a Neurotic Jew, it's a stereotype for a reason, I had a bug out plan from the US for my family if Trump got a 2nd term
You weren't alone. I think folks just can be neurotic, jew or not.
Noblert
You know what? This is fair.
Quixus
What event 200 years ago is he referring to? The Holocaust was less than 90 years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogroms_in_the_Russian_Empire#1821
fnoigy
Or 80 years ago
AtsaMattaForMe
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MagmaCarta
If I'm going to upvote this, I need to use the Schwartz.
Seotasr7
DrDeadReckoningExtraordinaire
slartifartfest
I'm not Jewish at all, but I am Polish and my ancestors got burned in stoves too. Fuck Nazi's.
alRakoun
Don't fuck em. Drag them down to the town square by their intestines and light them on fire.
even better.
fr33land3r
Reminds me of Teela Brown from Ringworld
androgenoide
WE have all been bred for luck.
authorcalebchapman
This tweet is like “what if I condensed that John Mulaney bit?”
INeverWaitForIt
So I'm guessing they're abandoning Italy in droves right now?
MissSiesta
They, homosexuals, trans, and migrants probably should be. But Italy depends on using migrants for cheap labour, so they'll keep coming.
ExecutiveProducerWolfDyck
I'm like 80% sure one of my great grandparents came over, changed their name, and converted to catholicism.
friendbot2k
A lot of Jews became non-practicing when they emigrated because it was just...so fucking dangerous to be a practicing Jew. So a lot also ---
Converted because. Fuck. It was safer and they were fleeing pogroms and genocide so....why not?
PTSD changes your body and your brain permanently. Your kids' are more likely to get PTSD and be anxious too. It only gets better 3. Gen.
https://www.research.va.gov/currents/1016-3.cfm
Lulabel73
I’m the decedent of a Jewish man who was living in the Pale of Settlement, one bad day of being attacked his sister shot her self so he ran-
- to Leeds England. Although the religion didn’t come down the line (first church of England then Catholic) the anxiety did.
doctorhat
In fairness, is the neurosis because of your ancestry or because you're from Leeds?
I’m not from Leeds my mum was born there so maybe she handed it down. :)
YellowSparrow
Honestly explains a lot about Americans of any race/ethnicity. Escape, evade, fight, seek freedom...
SirSmurfalot
More like religious zealots who got kicked out for being a bunch of fucking lunatics. At least Australia got all the nice chill murderers.
Cheomesh
Eh my ancestors came here to flee religious persecution originally.Then they fucked up by inviting Protestants into their midst...
PiercedViking
Then we vilify the next group that escapes, evades, fights, and seeks freedom to come here. We always hate the 1s that come here after us.
mormacil
Pilgrims didn't escape shit though, they left because people didn't want their tyranny. Then they fucked over some natives.
Erdanya
Nice cherry picking, avoiding genocide, exploitation, slavery and puritanical oppression - you know, the cornerstones of the US settlers.
wormsinmahspice
Shit bro, both can be true. Taking both comments, it illustrates why ppl in the US are freaked, it fucking DOES happen here.
Azazellosarmour
Exploitation, oppression, genocide- a short list of Israel’s achievements
You think somehow I don't think slaves & indigenous peoples are driven to escape, evade, fight, seek freedom...? I'm not favoring anyone.
secretdpp
In fairness the natives here were neck deep in genociding and enslaving each other. All whites did was show an industrialized version of it
Taxicat
Had an article clipped years ago from The Seattle Times about why certain “harmful” genes continue, and it made some interesting points >
>about ADHD in particular. It’s very closely linked to general novelty-seeking behavior, and the populations with the highest >
FoxyEllie
As someone with ADHD, it's only bad for "participating in organized society", such as it is right now. At all other times it's a superpower.
There’s a possibility that it might have even been the default setting for humanity until fairly recently, similar to how >
>lactose-intolerance was and still is the norm; it’s lactose-tolerance that’s the new mutated gene.
>rates of it are those who pushed farthest out of Africa (primarily Indigenous Americans), and populations descended from large >
>and varied groups of immigrants, such as modern Americans, Canadians, and Australians.
AllOfIt600
Wow! I hope I find it! Thx
DaisyWarrior
Ima be honest, I don't understand why jewish is a race I thought Jewish just meant Judaism?
It's both, it's an ethnoreligious group. There several of those, it means you can't convert into the religion but need blood ties.
CarlottaVonSprockett
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_ethnic_divisions
Caspergirl
It’s more than religion. It’s genetic, culture, language, ethnicity, etc. even physical characteristics & mannerisms
JudgementalMan
Jewishness can be both faith and/or ethnicity. There are tons of atheist jews and many jewish converts who aren't ethnically jewish.
sharikov
It is both a religion and an ethnicity. Historically, Jews have been targeted whether religious or not, so it's not like you can nope out.
DidItForScience
It's a ethnoreligious group with a shared ethnic and cultural identity with roots in the Middle East spreading down to North Africa. 1/2
You can absolutely test for Jewish ethnic heritage. and not all Jews practice Judaism. And some non-Jewish people convert to Judaism. 2/2
DisgruntledFerret
Due to the rules of the religion, it's both. They don't recruit, and you can't be Jewish without being descended from the tribe of Israel.
ProgeriaProstitutes
I didn't knew Israel had so many pale gingers back then.
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
Adherents of Judaism = Judaists. Jews are a cultural group as well as a bioethnic group (as much as, say, people with Polynesian ancestry)
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MsladyRiver
I wonder this too, it’s often thrown around as an ethnicity or race but it’s a religion. I would love some clarification. I’m just curious.
It’s an ethnoreligious group. You can convert, but it’s also an ethnicity. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_ethnic_divisions
It's both.
uniquepseudonym
It's not a proselytizing religion, so Jews tend to be genetically homogeneous. Add in Jewish specific languages (Yiddish, Hebrew etc)...
... you end up with as good a definition of a 'people, nation, race...' whatever you want to call it.
Aside from the things already said, jews have also been "outsiders" for much of our history. Whether it was intentional or not, there >>
wasn't a lot of interbreeding between jews and non jews. This is why when you do a 23andme you can identify things like "Ashkenazi jew". //
I consider myself Jewish even though I'm a hardcore anti-theist/atheist. There's an old joke: What do you call a Jew who's an atheist? >
A Jew.
It's as much about culture as religion these days which keeps it fairly homogenous.
MikeReese9
There's an old story about a young Jewish man who never really had faith in God; when he got old enough to leave home and fend for (1
2)Himself, he heard about another man who had rejected the faith, and was pretty infamous for it. He set out to meet this man, and learn
3)from him. He got to the city, and asked of him. 'Oh, the apikoros? Him? He lives in so and so street.' He got to the man's residence,
4) introduced himself, and asked the 'apikoros' if he could learn from him. The old man grumbled, 'Whatever. Just don't make trouble!'
slaitch
It goes back a lot longer than that. Every Jewish holiday is like "Someone tried to kill us, we're still here, let's eat."
4vie
"While we still can!"
GenXHippie
Can confirm.
sombrerohorsewagon
We again didn’t follow the explicit instructions of our God andwere punished…again.
TheGriffin
Isn't there a chart?
OddOod
Also sometimes there are trees
Oh, and there's usually booze
TheLookAndFeelMUSIC
Try to leaven MY bread will you!!!
dreikommavierzehn
Funny enough how that's a sideplot in WorldWarZ (rewatched it the other day). Jerusalem being prepared only bc of paranoia from the past
TheManInABlackSuit
https://youtu.be/TPAcf1RF2ps There's even a song about it
Oh, I thought you were talking about the other Passover song. https://youtu.be/RNvktQLf_zs
MarkRavingMad
And another. https://youtu.be/5hlmudjVGLY
jiynxed
And then there's Passover.
TheS4ndm4n
Episode 2: revenge of the jews.
tinydog
God killed all the firstborns, except ours because we smeared lamb's blood on our door.
Didn't kill that pharaoh or his army though. Weird.
Inscrutable deities.
Corrodias
They did their fair share of killing and conquering, too. I'm surprised a greater proportion of the festivals aren't celebrating that.
ZeroLogain
So a standard theory is that after the second exodus those got packed away so as not offend those of the lands they lived in. Same reason 1/
God lost his personal name and became just god, if you didn't name the god you were worshipping it wasn't blasphemy to the one of that land.
LovesToSpooge517
Yeah I’ve heard all about those murderous and imperial Jews
That almost comes across as sarcastic. Did you think Israel's "promised land" was unoccupied? Never heard of Jericho?
See, the great thing about deciding that your god has promised resources to you is that it doesn't require the input of their owners.
MakesUMad
As npc as it is to say, ALL the cultures that have survive to this day have done some killin' and stealin'. The ones that did either ...
fistermatic5000
It helps to judge a society from thousands of years ago by today's standards.
ChanceVLuck
Seems fair. Religious people judge todays society by standards created thousands of years ago.
VaardArk
Did you know ancient Jerusalem didn’t have bicycle infrastructure that separated bikes from car lanes? Disgusting
Pretty sure "killing" means the same thing now as it did about 3200 years ago.
A lot of things that we deem immoral nowadays wasn't seen as such in the past. Killing was always a bad thing, but the further you go back>
leperoutcastunclean
"Kill" and "murder" are not the same thing.
TheSeanDassen
They also perform a genital surgery on their infants which has been proven to be so damaging that it changes brain development to adults
trippingthelightfantastic
candar
Ohhh fuck tho the vibes are so odd right now...
ManByTechnicality
Honestly, same reason why all Canadian geese are rage filled territorial monsters.
Sinasohn
Or in some cases, 83 years ago.
Delerium1973
Watership Down.
xXxX66SICKXxXx
This is the concept of why humanity is so superstitious insular and dogmatic in the WH40K universe, only those ones survived the cataclysms
tentacularfleshscape
I mean also in that setting, there's a ton of legitimate threats plus they're raised under a totalitarian fascist police state pretty much
zeacorzeppelin10
I mean just look at history.
EternalStudent07
Survivor bias, yep. Wonder if any gene functions could be determined? I'm sure someone would assume any results would be antisemitic.
Interleaver11111111
FallenJester
'Are you Jewish?' - The guy with the daughter who didn't dress up for Halloween. 'What do you want to see my penis?' - long balls Larry
GrammarAndPunctuationNazi
toobilltochill
Epigenetics
Atomic2
Eh, the neurotic jew stereotype is kinda played out though. Mark Cuban is Jewish, Harrison Ford, Gal Gadot, Scarlett Johansen, and on and on
DiamondDogLedTasso
As a Neurotic Jew, it's a stereotype for a reason, I had a bug out plan from the US for my family if Trump got a 2nd term
Atomic2
You weren't alone. I think folks just can be neurotic, jew or not.
Noblert
You know what? This is fair.
Quixus
What event 200 years ago is he referring to? The Holocaust was less than 90 years ago.
copperdomebodhi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogroms_in_the_Russian_Empire#1821
fnoigy
Or 80 years ago
AtsaMattaForMe
MagmaCarta
If I'm going to upvote this, I need to use the Schwartz.
Seotasr7
DrDeadReckoningExtraordinaire
MagmaCarta
slartifartfest
I'm not Jewish at all, but I am Polish and my ancestors got burned in stoves too. Fuck Nazi's.
alRakoun
Don't fuck em. Drag them down to the town square by their intestines and light them on fire.
slartifartfest
even better.
fr33land3r
Reminds me of Teela Brown from Ringworld
androgenoide
WE have all been bred for luck.
authorcalebchapman
This tweet is like “what if I condensed that John Mulaney bit?”
INeverWaitForIt
So I'm guessing they're abandoning Italy in droves right now?
MissSiesta
They, homosexuals, trans, and migrants probably should be. But Italy depends on using migrants for cheap labour, so they'll keep coming.
ExecutiveProducerWolfDyck
I'm like 80% sure one of my great grandparents came over, changed their name, and converted to catholicism.
friendbot2k
A lot of Jews became non-practicing when they emigrated because it was just...so fucking dangerous to be a practicing Jew. So a lot also ---
friendbot2k
Converted because. Fuck. It was safer and they were fleeing pogroms and genocide so....why not?
ExecutiveProducerWolfDyck
MissSiesta
PTSD changes your body and your brain permanently. Your kids' are more likely to get PTSD and be anxious too. It only gets better 3. Gen.
MissSiesta
https://www.research.va.gov/currents/1016-3.cfm
Lulabel73
I’m the decedent of a Jewish man who was living in the Pale of Settlement, one bad day of being attacked his sister shot her self so he ran-
Lulabel73
- to Leeds England. Although the religion didn’t come down the line (first church of England then Catholic) the anxiety did.
doctorhat
In fairness, is the neurosis because of your ancestry or because you're from Leeds?
Lulabel73
I’m not from Leeds my mum was born there so maybe she handed it down. :)
YellowSparrow
Honestly explains a lot about Americans of any race/ethnicity. Escape, evade, fight, seek freedom...
SirSmurfalot
More like religious zealots who got kicked out for being a bunch of fucking lunatics. At least Australia got all the nice chill murderers.
Cheomesh
Eh my ancestors came here to flee religious persecution originally.Then they fucked up by inviting Protestants into their midst...
PiercedViking
Then we vilify the next group that escapes, evades, fights, and seeks freedom to come here. We always hate the 1s that come here after us.
mormacil
Pilgrims didn't escape shit though, they left because people didn't want their tyranny. Then they fucked over some natives.
Erdanya
Nice cherry picking, avoiding genocide, exploitation, slavery and puritanical oppression - you know, the cornerstones of the US settlers.
wormsinmahspice
Shit bro, both can be true. Taking both comments, it illustrates why ppl in the US are freaked, it fucking DOES happen here.
Azazellosarmour
Exploitation, oppression, genocide- a short list of Israel’s achievements
YellowSparrow
You think somehow I don't think slaves & indigenous peoples are driven to escape, evade, fight, seek freedom...? I'm not favoring anyone.
secretdpp
In fairness the natives here were neck deep in genociding and enslaving each other. All whites did was show an industrialized version of it
Taxicat
Had an article clipped years ago from The Seattle Times about why certain “harmful” genes continue, and it made some interesting points >
Taxicat
>about ADHD in particular. It’s very closely linked to general novelty-seeking behavior, and the populations with the highest >
FoxyEllie
As someone with ADHD, it's only bad for "participating in organized society", such as it is right now. At all other times it's a superpower.
Taxicat
There’s a possibility that it might have even been the default setting for humanity until fairly recently, similar to how >
Taxicat
>lactose-intolerance was and still is the norm; it’s lactose-tolerance that’s the new mutated gene.
Taxicat
>rates of it are those who pushed farthest out of Africa (primarily Indigenous Americans), and populations descended from large >
Taxicat
>and varied groups of immigrants, such as modern Americans, Canadians, and Australians.
AllOfIt600
Wow! I hope I find it! Thx
DaisyWarrior
Ima be honest, I don't understand why jewish is a race I thought Jewish just meant Judaism?
mormacil
It's both, it's an ethnoreligious group. There several of those, it means you can't convert into the religion but need blood ties.
CarlottaVonSprockett
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_ethnic_divisions
Caspergirl
It’s more than religion. It’s genetic, culture, language, ethnicity, etc. even physical characteristics & mannerisms
JudgementalMan
Jewishness can be both faith and/or ethnicity. There are tons of atheist jews and many jewish converts who aren't ethnically jewish.
sharikov
It is both a religion and an ethnicity. Historically, Jews have been targeted whether religious or not, so it's not like you can nope out.
DidItForScience
It's a ethnoreligious group with a shared ethnic and cultural identity with roots in the Middle East spreading down to North Africa. 1/2
DidItForScience
You can absolutely test for Jewish ethnic heritage. and not all Jews practice Judaism. And some non-Jewish people convert to Judaism. 2/2
DisgruntledFerret
Due to the rules of the religion, it's both. They don't recruit, and you can't be Jewish without being descended from the tribe of Israel.
ProgeriaProstitutes
I didn't knew Israel had so many pale gingers back then.
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
Adherents of Judaism = Judaists. Jews are a cultural group as well as a bioethnic group (as much as, say, people with Polynesian ancestry)
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MsladyRiver
I wonder this too, it’s often thrown around as an ethnicity or race but it’s a religion. I would love some clarification. I’m just curious.
CarlottaVonSprockett
It’s an ethnoreligious group. You can convert, but it’s also an ethnicity. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_ethnic_divisions
DidItForScience
It's both.
uniquepseudonym
It's not a proselytizing religion, so Jews tend to be genetically homogeneous. Add in Jewish specific languages (Yiddish, Hebrew etc)...
uniquepseudonym
... you end up with as good a definition of a 'people, nation, race...' whatever you want to call it.
Atomic2
Aside from the things already said, jews have also been "outsiders" for much of our history. Whether it was intentional or not, there >>
Atomic2
wasn't a lot of interbreeding between jews and non jews. This is why when you do a 23andme you can identify things like "Ashkenazi jew". //
Sinasohn
I consider myself Jewish even though I'm a hardcore anti-theist/atheist. There's an old joke: What do you call a Jew who's an atheist? >
Sinasohn
A Jew.
Sinasohn
It's as much about culture as religion these days which keeps it fairly homogenous.
MikeReese9
There's an old story about a young Jewish man who never really had faith in God; when he got old enough to leave home and fend for (1
MikeReese9
2)Himself, he heard about another man who had rejected the faith, and was pretty infamous for it. He set out to meet this man, and learn
MikeReese9
3)from him. He got to the city, and asked of him. 'Oh, the apikoros? Him? He lives in so and so street.' He got to the man's residence,
MikeReese9
4) introduced himself, and asked the 'apikoros' if he could learn from him. The old man grumbled, 'Whatever. Just don't make trouble!'
slaitch
It goes back a lot longer than that. Every Jewish holiday is like "Someone tried to kill us, we're still here, let's eat."
4vie
"While we still can!"
GenXHippie
Can confirm.
sombrerohorsewagon
We again didn’t follow the explicit instructions of our God andwere punished…again.
TheGriffin
Isn't there a chart?
OddOod
Also sometimes there are trees
OddOod
Oh, and there's usually booze
TheLookAndFeelMUSIC
Try to leaven MY bread will you!!!
dreikommavierzehn
Funny enough how that's a sideplot in WorldWarZ (rewatched it the other day). Jerusalem being prepared only bc of paranoia from the past
TheManInABlackSuit
https://youtu.be/TPAcf1RF2ps There's even a song about it
DidItForScience
Oh, I thought you were talking about the other Passover song. https://youtu.be/RNvktQLf_zs
MarkRavingMad
And another. https://youtu.be/5hlmudjVGLY
jiynxed
And then there's Passover.
TheS4ndm4n
Episode 2: revenge of the jews.
tinydog
God killed all the firstborns, except ours because we smeared lamb's blood on our door.
Cheomesh
Didn't kill that pharaoh or his army though. Weird.
tinydog
Inscrutable deities.
Corrodias
They did their fair share of killing and conquering, too. I'm surprised a greater proportion of the festivals aren't celebrating that.
ZeroLogain
So a standard theory is that after the second exodus those got packed away so as not offend those of the lands they lived in. Same reason 1/
ZeroLogain
God lost his personal name and became just god, if you didn't name the god you were worshipping it wasn't blasphemy to the one of that land.
LovesToSpooge517
Yeah I’ve heard all about those murderous and imperial Jews
Corrodias
That almost comes across as sarcastic. Did you think Israel's "promised land" was unoccupied? Never heard of Jericho?
Corrodias
See, the great thing about deciding that your god has promised resources to you is that it doesn't require the input of their owners.
MakesUMad
As npc as it is to say, ALL the cultures that have survive to this day have done some killin' and stealin'. The ones that did either ...
fistermatic5000
It helps to judge a society from thousands of years ago by today's standards.
ChanceVLuck
Seems fair. Religious people judge todays society by standards created thousands of years ago.
VaardArk
Did you know ancient Jerusalem didn’t have bicycle infrastructure that separated bikes from car lanes? Disgusting
Corrodias
Pretty sure "killing" means the same thing now as it did about 3200 years ago.
fistermatic5000
A lot of things that we deem immoral nowadays wasn't seen as such in the past. Killing was always a bad thing, but the further you go back>
leperoutcastunclean
"Kill" and "murder" are not the same thing.